Aztec playing Hunter here is the biggest betrayal of all Destiny's lore

I find it hilarious how dynamic and over the top Aztecross is in his videos, yet every time he gets into a raid with people he’s so quiet and patient you kinda forget he exists lol

Byf is like a tour guide in a history museum

Can we please get one of these for every raid that’s still in the game?!?!? Run through the dungeons with a smaller team too? I could watch/listen to these things forever! I love the discussion that promotes the pontification ♥️

This is the most respectful LFG team I've seen

nearly 4 hours of edging, can't wait

29:00 i never thought of it like that, especially since the "resonance beams" both Rhulk and the witness use is like a 3D representation of sound waves. That blew my mind. Outstanding work as always Byf.

"PLEASE let this raid be normal..." "With the Frizz? No way!"

Aaaaaaaw yeah! Almost 4 hours worth of a Byf Lore Raid. This gonna be gooooooood.

this is S+++++ teir content, i could sit and listen to byf ramble for hours about the lore of this raid❤️❤️❤️

The fact that the Witness isn't classified as a construct in game was a missed opportunity (or it would just make some weapons unbalanced)

Let’s go!! CB involved in this!?!? My man deserves it! Been watching his streams since Curse of Osiris! 🎉

55:12 Theory time: the Herald is actually the disciple from the winterbite exotic. The witness put his upper half back together after we split him with the canon.

I think that since the timer isn’t final shape looming in verity, but is instead imminent end and when the phase completes the heart pulses maybe the heart pulsing is reversing the final shape which has been enacted outside of the traveler similar to the opening cutscene. Furthermore, i think that at this point in the raid the final shape is enacted but once the encounter has been completed we have not only reversed the final shape but also partially cut the witness’s ties to the traveler’s light thus buying us more time for the final boss.

Something should be said about the weird effect on the sides of your screen during Verity, showing the true room with the roots and ruin showing that the Witness is actively shrouding your vision until your character is dead to see the true nature of everything. Super cool touch I noticed during my first run

AZTECROSS SOUNDS LIKE WALUIGI

Something I wished Byf or others talked about was the "We"/Plural the Witness used could have potentially been a facade, as when Ghost confronted it in the Vanguard War room, It spoke back to Ghost with a singular male voice, & when It was wounded & angered, it returned & kept using that voice until It's death, as there wasn't an overlap of voices like there usually is & instead just an echo. Devs have said in Vidoc 1 that there's moments where the *real* Witness comes through

My wife is hooked on the lore now after watching your 10 hour lore video with me. I can't wait to watch this with my wife later on! THANK YOU MY NAME IS BYF!!!!!!!

I’ve legitimately rewatched the whole stream 4 times! Absolutely amazing!! The way I have been on and off this games since 2014 and the only reason I comeback is to learn and watch some byf videos. Thank you for being so knowledgeable and so kindly spirited! Love the content! Here’s to another 10 years!

Byf is the reason I'm capable of explaining the lore of d2 to my wife. She asks me fantastic questions about the game all the time, so thank you byf 👍🏽

The dunky dunky music box At the first encounter, i just noticed it has the "give" symbol on it, so if you remembered the symbols for Vow, you would understand you need to give something to the box. Love that design

o yes a 4 hour video on an obscure topic about the game I love count me in

Let’s go I have something to do in my 7 hour car ride

This video is the real accumulated Destiny 2 experience. From the "easy 10 minute encounter" turned into 3 or 4 attempts by "professionals" to the dumb jokes between friends and of course all with the bonus of Byf telling you a story along the way.

I interpret the monolith and the pale heart as a sort of irony (if im using that right) the light is based on the laws and physics of the universe ( physical matter) whereas the darkeness is more intangible (matters of the mind/feelings) but inside the traveler, the roles are reversed, the witness crafts the monolith in a physical sense, it makes what it wants but the pale heart manifests what it can from others thoughts and feelings.

Something that had been on my mind about the Dessenters and their statues, our first direct interactions with darkness and the uses of darkness were with those statues, could we have gotten our access and use of stasis have come from the Dessenters to fight the Witnesses?

Regarding the lack of Conductors in the final encounter and the means of obtaining Glyphbreaker, I think a musical explanation works really well. Using your explanation of the resonance to delay the Final Shape in encounters 1-3, I view that as the guardians “scrambling the notes of the sheet music” that the Witness is actively writing to perform a final symphony to free time. The more resonance deposited equals more notes scrambled and more time for the Witness to “decode” the staves which the music is written on. Fast forward to the final encounter, you are no longer “scrambling the sheet music”, but you are rather “learning the music yourself” by listening to it, and then the act of breaking a button is synonymous to playing a dissonant chord within his symphony, enough to make any conductor recoil. Enough dissonant chords interjected and the conductor must always stop the music to address the foul players. It’s in this moment that the conductor is vulnerable, losing control of his symphony and exposing himself to the attacks of the dissenting members.

Would love to see a Fallout Ano Byf collab as well

Byf is kind of goated gamer as well as being lore daddy

I watched the whole thing from start to finish LIVE, and it was one of the best experiences ever. Thanks to all who made it happen!!! ❤

1:02:15 i actually had a theory with a friend based on the very mission they are discussing. While yes, the Pyramid Ships are unmanned physically, they are manned structurally. Each Pyramid is graced by the presence of a Veiled Statue, would it not be too farfetched to assume that they Statues that house the consciousness of the Precursors are controlling the ships? Every ship we have been aboard has had at least 1 statue. While the Statues man the ships in the absence of a Disciple, those that are manned by Disciples could be how many of the followers of the Witness commune with him. As we saw ourselves in the Ghost mission, Cayde mentioned that we never found out who was in charge of it, yet when we get to the end, in the very room where we get deepsight, is a veiled statue/dissenter, who talks back to us. Its the only logical explanation for the many unmanned ships. The Witness would send his disciples to subjugate and ransack worlds left by the traveler, why the rest of the fleet manned by the statues continued hunting with the Flagship.

That's a certified Destiny content creator summit.

Loved getting to see the full raid and hear all the lore that went with it .

I did find, in reference to the snake witness concept, that if you watch the witness fall down after final encounter you can see the witness is DEFINITELY coiled and as it retreats, it SEVERS it's tail, disconnecting from the main structure of the spire. Pretty cool stuff

Bro this was the collab video I didn’t know I needed! Really enjoyed this video, hope you guys do more stuff like this

This is amazing to watch and listen to. Byf you need to do voice acting dude. Brilliant tone fella.

Hell yea Byf and Cb in one stream hell yea

A video with the Lore Daddy, Aztec Ross and that Shotgun video guy? Hell yeah

34:00 if The Witness trying to arrange The Final Shape like music, then surely it is a Composer, and not a Conductor, right? Or maybe a composer aspiring to also be the conductor, once the masterpiece is finished.

I’m big with the theory of Chelchis being the Herald of finality

There is nothing better to listen to while doing laundry than the Lore Lord himself. This video will be LEGEN…. Wait for it… DAIRY! LEGENDARY!

To be completely honest, listening to byf for years now yet never seeing what he looks like, i was taken-a-back when i first saw what byf looked like. Not in a bad way just, notbwhat i expected. Still, a fabulous content creator and definitely in my top 3. ✌️

Listening to Byf explain the raid is like watching butter melt on a potato. Delicious.

This was extremely fun to watch. Thanks byf

Byf literally our osiris. The destiny scholar.

This has been a pleasure to watch Byf. Coming back to this a few times now.

Great content! No other content creators can be this well informed and descriptive when it comes to content, again good job

Inside the traveler, the witnesses depiction is its physical manifestation of the memory, and not just the memory but the active memory that’s why the witness is able to change things

58:35 one thing I've recently had a questions about since it was brought up in one of the micah lost ghost missions, could the thing that drove the Europa pyramid possibly be the Disciple that owned Winterbite? I mean Winterbite is the ONLY stasis glaive currently and obviously our first real interaction with Stasis was Europa from that pyramid, and now with bungie specifically giving us the question "what piloted that pyramid" I think it's possible that not only was there a Disciple with strong stasis connection but that it could still be out there

This was absolutely incredible

We need more of these for other dungeons/raids.

You mentioned that Verity is supposed to be where the Witness keeps their stores of light for when they need it. It could be something similar to when Ghaul used that contraption to trap in the Traveler, maybe that’s what’s happening here. That white orb in the middle is essential the Battery and cage that keeps the light it captured contained. When we complete the encounter it’s us breaking that cage and freeing the light the Witness was storing. That’s why we can ascend once the encounter has been beaten.

“I don’t need ammo I just need to speak” 😂

been waiting for this video. couldnt see the raid stream when it was done. LETS GOOOOO

Hello Byf! I very much enjoy your content and storytelling! A thought came to my mind when you're in the varity encounter with your team that furthers the lore as well. My theory is: rather than it being a bug, I think swapping out the shapes in the beginning of the encounter is necessary because those are the shapes the Witness designated for each guardian, and swapping them out drives the point of guardians making their own destiny by removing the fate that was designed by the Witenss. This goes along with what you mentioned in the beginning of the verity encounter.Anyways, thank you for the amazing content and analysis you provide with the story of Destiny!

Thank you i just started watching but this is lovely!!

"I didn't realize Mrs Frizzle was joining this raid."

It makes me feel like an old man. All my favorite Destiny KZfaqrs sense the start of Destiny, all showing up in each others videos… I remember being a young man and wanting that when they were younger, and now here it is all the time…

After you defeat the Herald of Finality you can hear traces of Taniks’ theme playing in the ambiance

One thing I really liked was just how engaged and attentive fallout was throughout the entirety of the stream Not to say the others weren’t but Fallout seemed so so interested contantly and extremely enthusiastic, aswell as requesting Byf do some lore content with Anno Classic Fallout W

An absolute blast thanks for answering soo many questions plz do more 🙏 ❤

Verity - Traveller's Pale Heart. The Pale Heart holds the key. Are we making the key, and what happens there (defining our own shape there), being what truly allows us to defeat The Witness

you can also get on top of the cube in 3rd encounter. it bounces like a bounce house and hurts a lot.

Thanks for the raid along. Bungie should do one themselves and be honest about when they made each part

if the 4th encounter didnt exist i def would’ve beat this raid multiple times by now

this collab with freakycross was entertaining af

1:31:58 I think the Witness sees itself as the First Knife, something that exists only in theory as the tool used to prune A Final Shape, and not literally the First Knife in The Winnower’s hand.

33:00 the context is that Cross was looking at a pic of Bunny from First descendant lmao

Watched half of it live and have been anxiously awaiting this vid

I've been watching this video during my free time (twice in full already). I just wanna ask if you can create time stamps for different parts of lore? Thanks for creating a lore run. This is very fun to watch.

Fallout’s mention of wishing the witness had followed through as a snake/shape shifting design would have been really cool. But I also could see their current implementation still slightly following that mode when you think about the hands that come into the encounters. Though we can’t see them as connected to the Witness’ body, who are we to say if they aren’t connected to their manifestation in another dimension or something that our guardians can’t perceive?

Love the idea. Hope to see more in the future

I neeeed a raid tour 🙋 this is absolutely phenomenal!!

Hey Byf, I dunno if you'll ever read this but the buttons on the Witness' form on Zenith is very similar to wind instruments like a Bassoon or a clarinet, which also plays into the musical angle heavily. I haven't really heard anyone make mention of it, but it's something interesting.

My only reasonable take on the Monolith is that the Witness has so many people contained within that the memories/thoughts of the people within are directly capable of manipulating what they conceive of as the Witness. It's an abstract concept, the binding of all of these people into one being, and so they conceptualize of it all the same way. It's not just that the Witness created the Monolith; it's a manifestation of their pride and ego, collectively. It's how they *all see themselves* and the multitude of memories/ideas of many converging onto one design, taking the disparate parts of the people within the Witness as they all coalesce together.

I could imagine you and Meyalin Games both fighting to give Lore during everything.

I think we should think of the witness as a roskos basilisk. Meaning the we isn’t limited to who it was. It can see us by relativity. Outside just like the winnower. Think about how it speaks directly and indirectly at the same time.

Please do more of these it is soo cool

I'm surprised you didn't talk about the precursor city model that you pass by on the way to one of the encounters.

Bro, your voice is something else. Ngl, absolutely love hearing the lore from you aha.

1:12:52 I like to think of the long spire at the edge of arena heading upwards is the witness' metaphorical spine and the bramble is the traveller's nervous system and in an effort to become one, it has grafted the nerves of the traveller onto its spine. which would account for the screams we hear.

32:02 The boxes to start encounters in Vault of Glass play funky beats 🕺💃

Do we have any answers for where all of the planets that the witness took and the likelihood of them returning ?

Great stream, really enjoy these

I always imagined byf as a tall dark Arabic man that wore a hooded robe like brother Vance 💀😂

After watching the Verity encounter I noticed that Byf deposited shapes at the very last second 2:38:59 before the witness killed him. If you haven’t done the raid before, DO NOT do this. It can cause the encounter to bug out and possibly( and probably) delete shapes or duplicate shapes. If you notice there’s a few attempts this is done, and in those attempts they can’t figure out what the heck is going on. The witness really hates last second decisions lol

And I thought the raid couldn’t get any better 🎉

i wish i was in on this raid! great group of creators!

Now that is THAT is a good fireteam right there!

So much fun, do more

@3:14:51 dredgen yor’s ghost is still alive, he’s just kicking it with shin and the shadows

damn this felt like a tour on a historical site or a museum

ive gone this long not knowing /clear was a chat command in Destiny

Byf, every time you'd run around in Verity, the edges of your screen show the darkness underneath all that light in that room. Like, in your peripheral, if you're The Guardian.

32:57 is the best part of this video

50:55 It might also be noted here that Rhulk is a pretty good prototype for what we, our Guardian, the Young Wolf, whatever you want to call us, would become if we accepted the offer of a Discipleship. Arrogant, deriving a measure of security and solace from that arrogance, a blunt instrument capable of smashing through anything in our path, and utterly alone. So underneath the environmental storytelling there's also this cautionary tale, told solely through subtext.

To further add to the mechanic of the symphony. Music comes in the form of a sound wave, right? Spund waves are regulated and measured in AC Sine wave formation. Displaying a transfer of energy that is dubbed a tune or a resonance. The final shape is kinetic energy being transferred into a sound. Like a scream for the sword logic or laughter as an example of bomb logic. Or atleast thats how i interpret it

I really want bungie to give more raid boss lore like they did for the raid bosses featured in pantheon.

I'd like to hear more lore on what Byfs talking about at 1:24:00. The idea that the Witness' idea of the Final Shape differs from The Winnowers is mind- blowing, because it calls into question their very beliefs. Does the Witness even believe in sword logic then? Does it view the winnower as an enemy?

I love this - it's like manna from nerd heaven.