The more we learn about the darkness, Witness and how the Hive tie into it all, the more I feel really bad for the Hive. They were manipulated by the Worm Gods, but only because the Worm Gods themselves were manipulated by Rhulk, who is in turn only a pawn to the Witness. The Hive aren't evil. They are what happens when the protagonist loses.

The fact Rhulk went into the deep and Bodied the leviathan like it wasnt nothing is insane.

Oh, my raid team and I spent a solid 20 minutes in awe after seeing this thing. We were REALLY hoping that was the final raid boss. Gotta say, Rhulk was not disappointment, but I really wanted to kill another big worm. I miss Xol.

We have rhulk, this incredibly powerful and well written villain and his story expanded our knowledge of the destiny universe. He held dominion over ONE pyramid ship. There is hundreds, if not thousands of others. It makes you think of what other crazy ass entities and villains we could see. We havnt even scratched the surface yet.

I feel bad for her. She was "evil" according to the design of the universe, something that is out of her control. And it's not like she was actively fighting against the Leviathan to spread psychic mayhem. She took her children and waited in the deep. They were already dying because they were weak, but Rhulk "saved" them.

I appreciate these Lore videos. Love Destiny lore, but just dont have the time to play much anymore, so I can stay caught up for when I do have the chance to jump on for a season here and there. Thanks Byf. Its appreciated.

Can we just be honest and admit we all saw the worm gods lying to the krill (hive)? Most of us, Byf included iirc, theorized they were lying about the god wave the whole time.

The fact that there is so much extra dialogue from holding Parasite is so freakin cool.

The Young Wolf is on the prowl again

Seeing this giant worm inside of the raid on day one will always be one of my favorite Destiny memories. My whole clan was freaking out, it was so shocking! And when we realized it was moving…man. This raid’s set pieces, art and whole atmosphere are so unsettling and artistic. I love it.

Doing the raid itself last actually lends an odd sense of chronology in regards to the character of the final raid boss. I approve.

I love how sometimes the gameplay doesnt quite show how powerful we are, especially in a raid setting where we are literally bending paracasual forces in order to create outcomes in the space time continuum and extracting the sheer essence of star killers to harness it agaisnt them. But when you read the lore or hear it from a great creator like Byf and you realize the emmense power of the beings we have destroyed. It really shows the depths of our guardian and a fireteam of 6. Rhaulk destroyed the leviathan protecting the worm gods with a single blow. (side note, the more we learn about the darkness and who's on what said, I actually believe the Leviathan Ship that Calus uses is the body of the hollowed out leviathan that was a servant to the light trying to keep creatures from accessing the worms and I believe the ship was a gift from Rhaulk to Calus or at the very least the Leviathan ship we know is not the same as the one that he left the Cabal empire in... sorry about the long side note.) Either way Rhaulk destroyed the leviathan with a single blow and then subjugated the worm gods. We have killed a worm and a couple Hive gods. We have bested a 'harold' of the Witness (I'm talking about Calus). We have learned to move across plains of existence meant for beings outside of reality. We have stood against a dragon with the ability to shape space and time. Now we have eclipsed those feats by destroying a true artist in the darkness, his lore (almost literally) makes Rhaulk the other side of our coin. A being that consider civilizations and species nothing but lessons to learn and goals to sweep. The entire time, The Witness has been watching us, prepping us, potentially grooming us, not so he can face a great challenge but because we are the closes thing to the perfect shape that he has found in all of reality. I always wondered why Oryx smiled when we killed him. It's been talked about but it's simple. It's not because he knew he would be back. It was because he was proud of us. He was watching the beginning of our ascent from the deep. He never came to destroy us. He came to test us and destroy us if we werent worthy, just like Rhaulk talks about. (Sorry about the shpeil, beat the raid last night and Rhaulk is so fascinating that I've been trying to soak up lore and opinions about him.)

Rhulk went full on Doomslayer on a bunch of sea monsters and I am loving it

Still crazy that six ants somehow defeated a direct disciple of the witness

Witch Queen content has gone much deeper than I expected! The plot is seriously thickening and I’m loving it! Keep these videos coming Byf! 👏🏼👏🏼

Visually and story wise this raid is top tier

the darkness sounds like a pyramid scheme

Rhulk really parallels Uldren Sov A LOT. Just replace The Witness’ selfish ends and manipulation and Rhulk’s need to act, prove, worship, please… with that of Uldren and Mara.

Alright, I just found something pretty interesting. I went to the altar of reflection and activated the memory. It went like this. "Let's play 2 lies 2 truths." (This isn't the exact thing she said, but it's close enough) "The Traveler will fall" "The Traveler will leave" "The Traveler isn't the only one of its kind" "The hive aren't the last to be chosen by the light."

Another worm! Fascinating! And we thought that they had always been of the deep!

you can get a similar dialogue regarding "worm father" and worm mother being visited at the beginning of the mission, he also talks about the pyramid just being on command of witness and nothign would stop the pyramid when they call.

I haven't played in 2 years. I don't even own a gaming system anymore. But I still love the destiny lore. Was always one of the better written lore of any game I've played

Rhulk gives off such strong Ebony Maw vibes, it's unbelievable

I love the little dialog of the parasite worm on the en of the preservation mission

Insane, worm gods are weak to these disciples. All I can think is how weak Rasputin must truly be in this universe. Humanities greatest weapon is a joke.

This opens more questions like Where did the Leviathan come from, and how did it come to know of the worm gods? Also a question for byf. When do you think that we will see from the other worm gods?

Larry is my favorite. I've always wondered why the leviathan isn't mentioned after the sisters encounter with it. Of course I wanted to see it but Rhulk had other plans. I'm still curious about its power and what it was and where it came from

With how powerful and far reaching the witness is I’m really starting to wonder how the vex fit into everything. They seem so powerful and yet they don’t seem to be doing much and I wonder if they have anything to do with the witness or have their own goals

It really feels like we're getting closer to some sort of ultimate truth of the universe, and that makes the entire history of this channel so much more worth it.

...wow... And so, the chain of servitude extends yet further. The worms do not commune with the Deep. At least, not out of a desire for strength, as we once believed. (Or they didn't start that way, at least.) ... They are _slaves_ to it. Them, and their Hive. The plot thickens yet further. My mind... in yet tinier pieces with each new story. There is no better time to be a Destiny lore fan than right now.

am I the only one who would love to see Bungie turn BYF into an NPC we can talk to in the game? cuz that would be awesome.

Talk about a banger of a video, I was able to pick up on some stuff during the mission, but I appreciate Byf’s deeper info that he provided to help connect everything.

I looked at it and before we heard that part I was like “is that part of the leviathan????” Thank you for teaching me the lore so well ☺️

I actually really like the introductory messages of content delivery. It’s a snapshot of what will be explained and let’s me know what I need to play in game. Normally I like to play the game first and develop my own perspective before turning to these videos which personally I believe hold the community collective lore perspective. Being a good analyst means you need to see both sides. Of course this works the other way too. It tells me what I’m in for and what I need to know and will know when I am unable to play the game, such as the raid. I won’t be able to get to it for the next two weeks. So fully aware of the warning I dive in.

I play regularly but I never have a good experience with LFG and all my friends stopped playing so your videos are the only lore I get from the raid so thank you.

Thank you for being so considerate. I love the videos and it's really awesome to see how respectful you are to everyone.

I’ve never been so invested in the story! Thank you so much for making these!!!

Love watching your vids, you have made destiny more fun for me to play because I understand what things mean. I love the lore and you in my eyes are one of the few experts in destiny lore and deliver it in a great way

In a tragic sense of morality, makes you almost pity the worm gods. But, they died serving their sword logic, died serving what they thought to be right. Not everyone gets to be so lucky. Another day in the life of a guardian I suppose. Awesome video.

Byf "So strap in" Me literally clicking my seat belt in my car looking up amused.

Do you think these supposed “gods” will ever be like “ya know... I just don’t think sol is worth all this trouble.”

Man your videos have always been awesome. I have learned so much about destiny from you

this was a particularily good video! i really liked how you ordered the information in an easy way, especially the way you clarified who the title subjugator belongs to and why, before it is used without explanation.

As someone who couldn’t do it on day one I say you may as well just do it my man. Everyone either wants to rush through this thing or wants you to have experience, so the people you’re worried about aren’t going to get to play regardless so you may as well do what you want. Like I want to go through it blind as hell, I don’t want to be spoiled, I want to figure it out myself, but nobody wants to deal with people like me.

As always Byf, Thank you so much for bringing us these lore readings.

I already know about all of this. I just love hearing you talk and breaking everything down into more minute detail. :)

Thanks for all the work you put into this amazing channel! Your videos help me fall asleep and are always great to rewatch at work the next day. I appreciate you man!

Byf: watch out for spoils! Me, a pvp player who likes lore: yeah bro.... it's OK lol

They aren't called the books of sorrow for nothing I guess. I find myself having more and more empathy for the hive. I really hope in the end savathuun and her siblings become allies. I actually think it might happen considering we have already made an alliance with Fallen and Cabal. Imagine all the original enemy races fighting against the darkness together

This video answered all my questions I had left about the origin of the hive, the relation of the wormgods to the witness. Thank you for this content, brilliant job

So happy for the series style content now I can drink it all in over time :)

Start of the seasons and expansions are my favorite time because I get to watch Byf videos more frequently

I have not played or kept up with destiny in such a long time that i turn to your videos before i even play the game again just so i understand and am up to date with everything thats going on

The witness seems like they’re taking apex warriors from each species it comes across and makes them witnesses, kinda like calus was doing with his shadows. I think the “final shape” is just a state of perpetual warfare between the apex warriors of all species

Does this mean there will not be any more worm larvae, meaning that the Hive will die out (or revert back to the Krill)

Wow....just...wow. Not only do i feel empathy for the Worms. It just proves even further that villains and/or antagonist can be victims in pursuit from what is best for their kin and ones that matter to them. And Rhulk the twist lad he is got his just desserts.

Thank you so much for this content! As a solo player, raids are a distant dream, so your videos help me to enjoy all the wonderful lore I would miss otherwise.

Completed my first clear of this raid last night so now I can watch all the videos about Rhulk, the Raid, ect. So stoked!

Perfect example of why I'm subscribed to you. Fascinating lore I would otherwise never of learned. Thank you.

It's also worth noting that the island in which the final boss fight against Savathun occurs is a scale replica of the "continent" of her childhood

Absolutely love the content

Excellent video as always! I can't wait for you to cover the lore surrounding Vox Obscura and the radical psion faction teaming up with the black fleet.

I think it would be cool if you did another raid along like you did with last wish with this raid where you explain the lore behind everything. Love the videos and the channel

Love the videos man. Keep then coming please 🙏 🙂

With content like this i can't wait to see what bungie has planned for Lightfall.

Ohhh Daddy Byf!!! How I've missed you and your phat lore book!🎉 Im back on D2 after 4 years or so. The grind has been rough to catch up but the lore is where the juicy stuff is all at. 🎉

You are by far best at keeping spoiler free, people who don't want it spoiled should know to avoid this stuff till after, just catch up, good video guys ☺️ poor Larry 🤣

I think the way you're doing content is reasonable. I played on Day 1 and we couldn't get past the first encounter. Our clan had enough interest that we split into two raid teams, dividing classes and serious raiders/conquerors between the teams. We knew we wouldn't get world first, but we wanted to go in blind and discover the mechanics ourselves. I was pretty proud we made it through the first puzzle room before any of the streamers I saw, and we had a good grasp of what to do in the first encounter, but just could not seal the deal.Contest Mode was brutal for us and we played about 8 hours before saying we would try again tomorrow when it was on Normal. We were all very saddened that it was extended (we had zero error codes or drops the entire 8 hour playthrough) as it meant none of us would even be able to get it done in week one. We're all adults with jobs with a variety of days off, work schedule within the day and most of us have children. I know some people like the masochism of Contest mode, but for us it was very frustrating to make plans around getting time for a full weekend of nonstop play, only to have the last minute shuffle. I wish they had given players on day two the option of doing either one, instead of forcing contest mode. Some people may be mad there are people like me who wanted to play normal and get the 48 hour emblem "for free" by playing in normal mode in the first 48 hours (like we were told we'd be able to), or troll our team with "git gud" style comments because we don't enjoy dumping an entire mag to kill red bars, but it was kind of a no win scenario Bungie had to deal with at the last minute, and I feel any decision could have disappointed essentially the entire playerbase of the biggest day one raid ever. I hope they can learn from this and just give players the option of contest mode after 24 hours. Like honestly, if you want to do Contest mode next weekend... why not? There will almost certainly be an eventual VOG style hard mode so it doesn't feel like it would hurt to have the option.

Couldn’t wait for this one. Now off to rewatch dynasty again while I’m at work

The caretaker is gonna be an interesting topic for the future as well for sure, excited

This is so good! Thank you!

Love ur work, much love n respect ✊🏻

God, I’d love to kill another hive god but after rhulk it just seems like it would barely be a footnote for our guardian at this point…

New epic Byf video, lets go!!!!

This is the kinda stuff I put on when I'm grinding a catalyst. Makes time go by faster.

your videos are the reason why I keep popcorns at hands length xD

Technically you can ruinite 2 children with the worm mother. The one being still very much alive in their first form ( The parasite) which you do in a mission. But you could also consider yourself being capable of reuniting Xol with the mother as well by dragging him in gun form there

Can’t wait for the video of Byf showing off his million sub plaque. Congrats again.

I gotta agree with Larry. Byf it wouldn't hurt to put markers in your video clips so we can get directly to the lore . Still love ya byf

might have to raid just for the armor and lore goddamn. hope they delve into a deeper meaning with the story. Thanks for the videos and great quality, glhf. Although I haven't tried it yet, this raid looks like it might beat Kings Fall for me.

There was some theory crafting about Rhulk's eyes and the symbols therein saying that while he's a Disciple of The Witness he's just the disciple of the one pyramid ship and that we might be the disciple of the pyramid on Europa.

Listening to this gave me a thought. What other shooter has THIS deep of lore? They have plenty, sure, but lore this deep, ancient, and just.. almost eldritch? This is insane lore for a shooter. And Destiny somehow fucking nailed it.

Your videos is what keeps me updated on the lore and has allowed me to appreciate the depth Bungie has done to this game. YOU are the real MVP!

Wow… how far up to the strings go? The Hive were puppeted by Savathun, she by the Worm Gods, them by Rhulk, and him by The Witness. Is there one that puppets him?

This is the first time in a long time Destiny lore has given me chills

I was wondering about this for a bit now. Just in time

If you notice the worm in preservation mission every week. In this week it almost looks like the worm corpse is changing

Gotta love Savathuns Worm little pieces of dialogue, such a nice detail.

These videos are great for me as I don't do anything I can't solo. Thank you.

Thanks Byf!

Thank u for daily dose of lore

You the best byf🙏🏾👌🏾

I be love it, so chilling but brings forth the deep history of the hive

i had to rewind this so many times, because i couldn't believe what i was hearing! 🤯🤯

I’m not sure how much I feel for the symbol dominant gameplay nature of the raid. I do like how the symbol all relate to the sol universe and destiny history. It was pretty cool to see symbol for black heart. Next raid no more symbol based gameplay more baseball throwing gameplay like spire of stars

I swear Rhulk mocks the sword logic in one of his preservation audio logs. I think he says something like, "we will give them a logic that burns billions" in a derisive tone.

I am so pumped to see where this goes, it feels so much bigger than us and what we can do to take care of it

Great stuff.

Love the content. Wish I could partake in these events. Raids, so on. However my lack of playing buddies cuts my time drastically for, I burn out quickly without socializing

Byf you should upload these videos as podcasts as well as videos.