Now I can dismantle all the weapons not listed in this video! Thank you Datto 🙏

Shoutout to Chain of Command machine gun for having that unique perk combo of osmosis and demolitionist. No painful grind to get being a ritual weapon and has the flexibility to match the burn of whatever subclass you're running. Really great on grenade focused builds. Bit more of a jack-of-all-trades master-of-none but I love it for its flexibility.

This is literally what I’ve been waiting for. I’ve been looking for a list of stuff to grind

I feel like Lingering Dread should've gotten a mention for kinetic slot GLs. The combination of disorienting grenades plus chill clip makes it a fantastic multi-purpose tool for general crowd control, being able to both disable groups of adds and shut down 2/3 champions in the game, and being able to pair that with either auto-loading for more fluid disorienting nades or ambitious assassin for faster freezes against unstoppables puts it above Ignition Code's slide-spam imo.

I finally have on opinion on legendary weapons, thank you Datto

small note on Commemoration: using extended mag, enhanced subsistence and enhanced killing tally gives you 75 in the mag and 16 back per kill, and generally machine guns being used in ad dense areas means you'll literally never reload it. Most red bars, even in high end master content, die in between 2-4 bullets.

Would be cool for an exotic 'tier list' for each slot too (kinetic/energy/heavy). Helluva video! Love it!

FYI, Deafening Whisper is sometimes in the Dares of Eternity loot pool. Xur also sells it occasionally.

Chain of Command is a really good machine gun pick for those stasis hunter still trying to use Renewal, and is a amazing pairing for osmiomancy warlocks

Chain of Command came out of left field to be my most used heavy this season with a stasis turret build. Every LMG kill buffs the gun with adrenaline junkie and demo gives you a chunk of grenade energy. Right when the mag is empty you throw a turret down and you never have to reload. Throw some stasis surge mods on and it becomes a monster in only a few seconds of firing 10/10

tbh im just happy that so many of these come from different sources. really starting to feel like a real mmo

If only Wish-Ender and the Ikelos SMG didn’t do everything already…

Thank you for acknowledging The Last Breath. That gun has been a staple of my endgame activities ever since I got my Demo/Frenzy roll. Almost up to 2000 kills now.

The OG summoner with Rangefinder/Zen moment is the king of the energy slot for pvp for me. Unfortunately I don’t think you can get those perks on it anymore Update: you CAN still get rangefinder but not Zen moment which is insane rn

Sweet Sorrow with One For All is the most satisfying weapon I've used in the game. The rate of fire, the sound, the recoil and the sights are just chef's kiss

I have wanted a video like this for so, so, so long as someone getting into D2 after many many years and not knowing anything. Have loved your content since D1, thank you so much as always Datto.

15:41 I’m surprised Glaciocasm with Subsistence/Slideshot+Resivoir Burst was not close to top spot. However I think as more people get this season’s Iterative Loop with compulsive reloader and voltshot and Royal Executioner with envious assassin and reservoir burst crafted they will become much more common. Ehroar did a video on both and Iterative Loop being rapid fire and having voltshot has very high dps for a special weapon while being great at ad clear while envious assassin on Royal Executioner can give you reservoir burst on 10+ shots straight. People should craft them and give them a shot Great video Datto as usual.

Perses-D with Rapid Hit/Headstone is pretty much my go-to for kinetic slot Scouts. The Hakke origin trait allows it to shatter the stasis crystals it generates quite quickly, plus the stasis crystals freeze targets around it. Quite fun for regular PvE stuff.

Thank you been having a real trouble looking over power weapons for my current build this gave me a good list. =)

Great video as always

I do think that cry mutiny often gets overlooked, but otherwise a very solid list.

Been really enjoying chain of command for grenade builds. Osmosis is a super slept on perk when combined with demolitionist

This video helps alot. Thank you Datty ❤️

This was exactly the video I needed, thanks Datto

For PvE, Seventh Seraph Officer's Revolver with Reconstruction and something like Harmony or Vorpal, combined with Lucky Pants, turns into precision boss dps coming out of a primary weapon. Literally used this to kill Calus on day 1 of Lightfall on Legendary. Very underrated option, has become my go-to kinetic hand cannon.

I would love to see an exotic list later to see what you think of the exotic space

Thank you! I've been waiting so long for an updated void auto rifle, someone finally recognizes it!

Really appreciate this! Vault space is very limited atm. I just hate tossing a weapon ill need next season!. Thanks again for your suggestions.

it makes me so happy to see machine guns in a good place. with all the buffs done to them, i cant take mine off.

Currently one of the best traces is hollowed denial, repuslor brace is really nice for infinite overshield especially with the artifact perks and since your running double special with trace rifles, lead from gold is a great perk since heavy will be dropping everywhere

Insightful, thanks man.

Hey, thanks so much for the subtitles! I have an auditory processing disorder and the subtitles do wonders for making your vids accessible and useful!

The Igneous Hammer inclusion did make me think that I hope they buff 120 HCs for PvE, since I have a roll with Subsistence & One for All and is good, like yeah there are better options like 140s and SMGs, but as a 120 HC, it feels very good compared to other 120s.

I'm amazed Liminal Vigil didn't make the top PvP sidearm slot. That thing can roll TTT + RF for insane range, stability, and accuracy on every burst. Aggressive sidearms are also great hipfire spam weapons, and Liminal Vigil takes great advantage of its origin trait.

Cracked video, thanks for the info.

What a great vid, Datto!

Glaives have been awesome for endgame content for me, especially with this season's unstop artifact mod. the ecliptic dipstaff is super solid and I'm glad they're getting more light than last dlc!

Nice list. I love my Autoloading/lead from gold Deafening Whisper. And unpopular option my incandescent/tunnel vision Jurassic Green is just below my BXR for use

I feel like this video is still nice to reference as many of these weapon are obtainable still or give a general idea of what to look for in future weapons.

This is the best Destiny content of any kind, on any topic, on KZfaq, as a whole, period

What are your thoughts on Perpetualis vs. Rufus for both PVE and PVP scenarios? (assuming both are crafted with their best perks) I for some reason found that although Rufus has an amazing fire rate and magazine, it just kills things in PVE much slower than Perpetualis does. So I wasn't sure if others noticed that as well, or if it was just me.

Opinion formed- I mean wow Datto great video

I just came back after being overseas unable to play very much. Thank you so much for this Datto. This is EXACTLY what I have been looking for

The information man has blessed us once again 🧎‍♂️

I'd be interested to see whether Zephyr, Guillotine, or a class sword does best. Cold Steel is a heavily underrated perk, at least when it consistently activates. For peak unga bunga mode with Glaives, pick Unrelenting for constant healing while stabbing. Back to your roots, grab Enigma

10:15 For Kinetic slot bow I'm surprised Fel Taradiddle (from The Wellspring) wasn't mentioned. It can roll with Archer's Tempo + Explosive Head and it's craftable, you only need 3 deepsights to get the pattern and the rotation is only 4 days so you'll usually have 2 days a week to farm. Edit: Just saw the energy bow section, Datto why do you hate bows? For Void, Under Your Skin (from season 16) is a great choice (and what I would consider the best in slot). Archer's Tempo + Explosive Head and it can use volatile too for even more explosions. For arc I'd either say Wolftone Draw (S15) or Tripwire Canary (S19), Tripwire has slightly better perks but Wolftone is a better archetype and still has good perks so it's my pick. Unfortunately there's a real lack of legendary solar bows, but the best is Strident Whistle which drops from vanguard activities. It can roll Archer's Tempo in the third column and in the fourth column you can either go Explosive Head or Incandescent. I'm still hunting for one so I can't really say which is better but I'd go Incandescent personally.

Literally went looking for this two days ago and couldn't find anything so THANK YOU

Underrated gem Cantana with timed payload. Love the video Datto!

Not necessarily a good gun, but one i like a lot- Shadow Price, id love to see a revamped version with voltshot sometime soon

With the void perk cost reduction from the artifact I've been running a bunch of void guns. The Hero's Burden clears funnelweb as a void PVE sub for me. My go to one has repulsor brace / feeding frenzy and especially running Gyrfalcon on void hunter its a machine. Infinite orb generation and overshield makes it so I can run 20 recov and not notice in the slightest. The updated one as of this week also can drop destabilizing rounds which can give infinite volatile rounds without the void subclass for ad clear. Fugue-55 can roll with some great perks for a void sniper in both PVP and PVE. I currently run it for gaze on Nezerac with Vorpal / lead from gold. Basso Ostinato with destabilizing rounds is a nice pick for void shotty in PVE. The rapid fire frame to clear ads quick or proc a volatile explosion on yellow bars.

So good to hear someone say it. Feel and perk combos are far more important then running the absolute god roll. People get so hung up on that shit they miss out on some genuine fun in destiny.

I’m so glad I got a firefly frenzy doom on my first ever kings fall clear! Thank you for confirming how good doom actually feels

Im extremely surprised that nation of beasts was put over posterity, im loving frenzy/voltshot on posterity atm

heros burden for void smgs has a great perk pool - feeding frenzy and destabilizing gets the job done you've also got the new arc special gl from the war table this season - can't remember it's name but it can roll voltshot which is pretty neat

I'm already happy to see Chroma Rush still being rated so highly. I love it and still use it when I need a kinetic auto since I don't have a Rufu's Fury yet.

Woohoo thanks man, I'm a newlight and this really helped, I've got my.exotics down but I'm always swapping between sub par legendaries

Can't wait for the mid season patch rendering this entire video obsolete /s

I really hope we get a rapid fire void auto with destabilizing rounds soon. That's my dream weapon

Thank for helping clear some things out of my vault yet again. Got about 60 spots back by being brutally honest with my hoarding

Thanks for this!!!

Recurrent impact from risen is one of my favorite lmgs in the game. Enhanced sub with either enhanced headstone or one for all is absolutely nuts

I genuinely want to see datto does double special.

Love this video ! Pretty much have all the guns as my main choice for said slot/damage type and then my pvp guns. Personally that’s how I keep my vault pretty clean. Just keep my best in slot until something better comes around to replace it.

I'm liking the video just for the amount of editing that went into this

If Unforgiven has 1000 fans, I am one of them. If Unforgiven has 10 fans, I am one of them. If Unforgiven has 0 fans, I’m dead.

Time to redo this video

I literally just was looking for this earlier 😅👍

returning to destiny and this is exactly what I was looking for. Thank you datto

they ARE the most exciting pieces of content..LoLjust like your vault cleaning ones. As a junkie would spew, "Keep them coming my man".

Thanks for making this video! I personally am no longer at a point, where I get much value out of something like this, but I have found myself typing out endless lists of weapons for people who wondered about what to use on Reddit, so it's nice to have something to refer them to, instead of taking such a long time.

I totally agree that wave frame GLs beat out breach loading, but the Prodigal Return deserves a shoutout for having Voltshot. Being able to proc jolt on every shot could be very useful for ability builds that require Ionic Traces.

Its so weird realizing how many years I've watched your stuff since the D1 Xur roll days

Well done! Thank you for the video!! I'll go with the Summoner(Adept) for solar Auto Rifle

I actually fully agree with everything said in this video, very well thought out and put together

I'm glad I wasn't alone when I dug out my Gnawing Hunger with Zen Moment and Rampage on it. That thing puts in work!

You indirectly helped me clean out my vault with this video lol

everything mentioned in the video for PVE, I don't play PVP. weapons between brackets are of the same element type. auto rifles: (kinetic) Rufus's fury/ chroma rush/last breath (energy) gnawing hunger/ammit/sweet sorrow SMG: (kinetic) submission (energy) calus mini tool/ikelos/(funnelweb/unforgiven) pulse rifle: (kinetic) smite of merain/disparity (energy) BXR/insidious scout rifle: (kinetic) hung jury/nightwatch (energy) (doom of chelchis/vouchsafe)/(trustee/stacato)/(longarm/tarnished mettle) sidearm: (kinetic) peacebond/mykel's reverance/liminal vigil (energy) briggand's law/drang/fioritura hand cannon: (kinetic) fatebringer/eyesluna (energy) nation of beasts/zaouli's bane/palindrome fusion rifle (kinetic) riptide/deliverance (energy) null composure/cartesian coordinate/plug one/main ingredient grenade launcher: (kinetic) ignition code/pardon our dust/disorienting grenades (energy) forebearance/explosive personality/(harsh language/deafening whisper) sniper: (kinetic) succesion/thoughtless (energy) (clown cartridge/fourth's time)+damage perk shotgun: (kinetic) heritage/one-two punch shotty (energy) nessa's oblation/one-two punch shotty bows: (kinetic) acrude redemption/raconteur/biting winds (energy) exotic bows trace rifles: just match element glaives: close to melee/(judgement of kelgorath/ecliptic distaff) POWER WEAPONS machine guns: retrofit escapade/any recent solar MGs/terminus horizon/qullim's terminus/circular logic linear fusions: cataclysmic/taipan/fire and forget/storm chaser rocket launchers: hothead/bump in the night/royal entry grenade launchers: regnant/wendigo/marsilion-c/typhon/koraxis's distress *perks more important* swords: falling guillotine/bequest/other half *perks more important*

Happy to see Ignition Code. My Spiked/Blinding Slideshot + Vorpal roll is arguably my favorite legendary gun ever

Felt this was also a good mention: Aisha’s Embrace if you have vorpal on it can contest with vouchsafe very well. Other very good legendaries that weren’t mentioned here are lingering dread, irukandji, no reprieve, Father’s sins, aisha’s embrace(adept), Sleepless, royal entry There are many other good ones for sure but these are some of my favorites that make their way into my day one loadouts/gm loadouts. Hope this helps peeps out :)

The KZfaq meta of having an ad before an ad before the warm-up intro before the real intro before the actual video starts breaks my heart

I am super surprised the datto community is sleeping on Pointed Inquiry. It's my scout of choice in all GMs with genesis+adaptive munitions.

Great vid! Glad to see I own plenty of these lol

Extraordinary rendition with zen and frenzy for pvp is a personal favorite. Also wolftone with shoot to loot and dragonfly makes it my favorite legendary energy bow

I loved my commemoration with the roll you mentioned it wasn’t until doing legend Avalon mission where I realised that sometimes you still have to reload and my adept corrective measure with Demo+ AJ just made it so much easier as you have the same buff don’t need to reload and have grenade energy

Salvager's gang. Just keeps doing solid work. That and Outbreak are my Ol' Reliable

Aurvandl with reconstruction and chill clip is amazing

Been playing a lot with Solar Grenades this season, and Judgment of Kelgorath with Demo + Incandescent has absolutely been a workhorse for me. I'd love to get a Void glaive with Demo + Destabilizing.

Love your intro, I’d describe it as frank, for lack of a better word, delivered in just the right quantity to be humorous and “grabbing”

For Bows in the kinetic slot, Whispering slab is the only one with demolitionist and therefore an essential grab from Gunsmith/Xur when it comes around. I would go as far to say that, at least for a warlock main, demolitionist on any weapon makes that weapon better than one of the same type without it in most situations.

I really enjoy using the adept version of Forgiveness. It's great in close range in PvP. I also quite like Tears Of Contrition in either mode.

a personal fave of mine is royal chase. it may not be very popular, but i enjoy the feel of it sooo much

Good job chat! As an auto rifle fan (but smg main) seeing Last Breath and Chroma Rush in the top spots is awesome. They are truly great. I need to spend more time with Rufus's Fury but I have not been using strand weapons since kinetic weapons are just straight up stronger. As for PvP Lodbrok-C, Ammit AR2, and the other listed for PvE are all good. But in PvP the fact there is a 360 and a 450 rpm that shines is great. In PvE the faster RPMs do better.

I am surprised that Braytech werewolf auto wasn’t suggested for pvp. Good list. I think I still have a few of those older ones in the vault. Thanks for this.

Glad to have every single weapon mentioned

For a kinetic fusion my favorite rn is Aurvandil FR6. Mines rolled with reconstruction, chill clip. Great for stunning champions with chill clip and reconstruction makes it have its entire reserve in the mag

My underrated gems: Tarnation (Craftable Arc Heavy GL) - Enh. Clown Cartridge, Enh. Chain Reaction. Sometimes it's fun to piss away all of your heavy ammo in seconds clearing waves upon waves of enemies. Hero of Ages - (GoA Arc Sword) - Chain Reaction. Exact same reason as above, but with a Vortex Frame, so spin-to-win. Terminal Velocity Kinetic SMG - Not the best SMG by any means... but during Season of the Lost, trying to solo master activities with 3 different shields and Match Game got frustrating AF on one of the maps. I kept trying to brute force it and got my arse handed to me. I had a genius idea and scoured my vault for ANY weapon with Osmosis. I had one with Overflow/Osmosis, and, honestly if it ever goes back to trying to solo some sort of Match Game 3 shields bullshit I'll be bringing it with me. Might not BE good, but it FEELS great to shoot and helped me out tons.

Retrofit is honestly my fav right now, enhanced field prep and one for all with over 650 bullets in reserve is so much fun

pizzicato deserves a shout out for being one of the only smgs with osmosis, which is a super helpful perk for certain builds. I’m still running an osmosis one on my solar titan build.

I love that he put his bot walking run of the raid in the background

Don't even care if this isn't the most "exciting" piece content I needed this!!