it needs to be randal the captain, he ate mario's mushroom

It's either Taniks or Randal the Vandal

Oh god.

@atheon- I mean, it wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility that ol' Randal got a power boost from The Witness.

Gerald the Herald

Agree

Taniks 3.0 Can't wait for Tanikes 4.3 in episodes 2 when we get Fik daddy back.

@@SeizeHerSalad Scaniks, Fikruls Middle Finger

@@SeizeHerSaladactually Taniks 6.0

Obviously, it's taniks legs that have been taken slapped onto some random dude. His legs are still MIA.

At this point Taniks could have his head replaced, given his "Ship of Theseus" body

@@Kurotaisa Interesting point! Continued identity theory This solution (proposed by Kate, Ernest et al.) sees an object as staying the same as long as it continuously exists under the same identity without being fully transformed at one time. For instance, a house that has its front wall destroyed and replaced at year 1, the ceiling replaced at year 2, and so on, until every part of the house has been replaced will still be understood as the same house. However, if every wall, the floor, and the roof are destroyed and replaced at the same time, it will be known as a new house. Taniks' head and legs were lost on Europa, so those would have to be replaced if Herald is supposed to be Taniks. His arms were lost at an earlier point, so those would have to be a replacement too. The only thing unaccounted for is his Torso. There's no evidence that Herald's torso isn't taken from Taniks' corpse, but there's also no evidence that it is. Seems like this whole Taniks = Herald theory would be like saying you have a 2 story house in one place, it gets destroyed and you rebuild a 3 story house in a different place, then claim it's the same house. If we accept the continued identity theory, that is.

Also, some observations about how Herald and Taniks fight: Taniks will flee and avoid a confrontation whenever possible. When we first meet him in DSC he immediately runs off to the morning star, and only stands his ground once he's cornered in the morning star's control room. The same goes for his boss fight, he's both cornered and no longer has legs to run away with. His nightmare hunt is similar and I believe his D1 appearances are the same, altough I haven't played those. Herald faces you the moment he lays eyes on you, and even calls you into the middle of his arena to fight him. It seems like Herald enjoys the fight and does not seek an alternative, while Taniks withdraws and only fights when he has to or if he has a significant advantage (nukes). More facts suggesting they are in fact completely different people.

Or or he could be modified version of randal the vandal

It's part of the taniks theme from d1

@@lorddiamond1174 Is it? Honestly it's been a really long time since I played that stuff but I swear I remember it being played in Regicide or some of the other missions, and even if it is, remember Bungie does love their red herrings.

That is just the taken king motif, you hear it almost everywhere when taken are involved

*GRRRRRRIIIIFFFIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITTTHHH*

Don’t you dare speak his name!!!

The Kell Echo was symbolic of Eramis

kell echo can pretty much only be eramis because it’s meant to be a literal prophecy of what happens next (e.g. the desert area has sunken portions of the planets that got taken away)

I hope eventually down the line they let us access the monolith again for some missions and it’s to discover what it is. Especially what the herald was. We can theorise but nothing will be concrete till bungie gives us a hint.

That kinda makes me lean towards it being Chelchis. He stood toe to toe with Orxy during the Whirlwind, lost, obviously, but he was either Taken by Oryx and later finalized by the Witness into a Fallen Dred hybrid

Maybe he was taken by Oryx, considering that he's half taken the witness could have very well finalized him too

Unlikely. Kell of Stone was stated to be tall enough to throw hands with Oryx, and the herald is way too small for that. Due to the shape of the helmet, it could be Taniks again or even Riksis.

@@Langrange- dont forget that oryx in the raid was big bc we were in his throne world, herald was prob the size of regular oryx

​@@Langrange- Oryx in the raid was only as large as he was because he was in his throne world after he was beaten.

Taniks isn't the only fallen to use the same Solar shotgun. Besides, last time we fought taniks he had a scorch cannon. No shotty.

we just wanna accept its taniks for the funny

This looks nothing like taniks

Uses different base fallen geometry Has a different number of eyes Different head and armor shape Uses a different weapon Missing any of taniks' iconography The only taken part of the herald are the legs, the only part of taniks that couldn't be taken But sure its taniks why not

⁠​⁠​⁠​⁠bungie is well aware of the jokes made around taniks and if it were him the boss would be named or an item named after taniks yet there’s nothing.

KEKSIS THE BETRAYED

He got demoted and you can actually find him roaming near the impasse and he is now "Kelgorath, Vestige of Failure"

Kelgorath is hive

@@Dacire11bro tried his best

@@omage3457 you would think he would stop trying after losing to us 5-6 times lol

To unlock it, you need to do all Overthrow's and find Savathun's Hive Guardian (spawns after you kill the final boss), it's a 50/50 if it can be done across multiple days, but I'd recommend doing all 3 at once, either due to a waypoint, or find it (I recommend a video for it), you'll need to grab 1 light orb, and 1 dark, and carry it quite the distance, (but you can drop one, carry the other, drop it rinse and repeat, bug keep in mind, if it's on the floor long enough, it goes back to where you found it), and to get INTO it, you need a second person (but only 1 other, Fireteam finder, or any discord servers made by Destiny content creator, you'd find people who'd help you)

@@varisrevolver4061 Thx