Destroyed VFD teardown and failure analysis

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AvE

AvE

11 жыл бұрын

Troubleshoot and test Variable Frequency Drive. Teardown, and attempted repair of a VFD. This is what replaced a phase converter in your home shop conversion. How it works and why you must never connect it backwards!

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@mattkaplan1316
@mattkaplan1316 2 жыл бұрын
2021 I bet you didn’t think you would be where you are now Love the videos Also hello to others here around 2021
@murdoch817
@murdoch817 6 жыл бұрын
As I am currently watching my wife and both cats are intently viewing and taking notes. AND she knows what a VFD is.
@Petesworkshop2225
@Petesworkshop2225 2 жыл бұрын
LOL!!
@GA-yi9js
@GA-yi9js 2 жыл бұрын
@@Petesworkshop2225 😁
@hayleyxyz
@hayleyxyz Жыл бұрын
yeah cmon girls can be home gamers too
@HANKTHEDANKEST
@HANKTHEDANKEST 2 жыл бұрын
GOODNESS, here I clicked through thinking this was some new-fangled content; wound up going for one hell of a nostalgia trip. And it's only been 8 years watching this channel before I finally figured out what-the-fuck AvE actually *means!* I'm a goddamned genius.
@dethmaul
@dethmaul 2 жыл бұрын
I thought it was new too! I'm just used to videos showing up right there on the home page lol
@TheWilliamBurgi
@TheWilliamBurgi 2 жыл бұрын
It’s ok. I still haven’t figured it out
@leesanders8824
@leesanders8824 2 жыл бұрын
Please enlighten us
@alexiaaddictiv-ink1898
@alexiaaddictiv-ink1898 6 жыл бұрын
Heya, another girl that finds your vids and sense of humour entertaining. I also often find myself watching big Clive's channel. We are out there;-)
@birchthebirch4593
@birchthebirch4593 2 жыл бұрын
Careful... You'll excite the lurkers
@coastguyd
@coastguyd 2 жыл бұрын
@@birchthebirch4593 to late :)
@KathrynLiz1
@KathrynLiz1 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed we are... :-D
@Leggir
@Leggir 7 жыл бұрын
I work on VSDs (Variable Speed as apposed to Variable Frequency) daily. Just had an electrician hook up one of my drives backwards last week. 480V Shorted the IGBTs and Cross-phased. We were standing in front of the cabinet and the door must have mushroomed out 6 inches. Oops, that's a $15000 mistake. Usually I double check everything but he assured me everything was good to chooch...
@domaves4043
@domaves4043 4 жыл бұрын
"Keep you stick on the ice" I legend was born.
@TurboEmily
@TurboEmily 9 жыл бұрын
I'm watching these! >__> Teardown videos are sorta relaxing :)
@Screamingtut
@Screamingtut 8 жыл бұрын
I am i love teardowns! I got a degree in Electronic Engineering
@texasdeeslinglead2401
@texasdeeslinglead2401 8 жыл бұрын
you are truelly rare gem
@stanleybell2672
@stanleybell2672 3 жыл бұрын
Knowbody gives a fuk
@Screamingtut
@Screamingtut 3 жыл бұрын
@@stanleybell2672 you most likely do not know a Diode from a transistor!
@JimFortune
@JimFortune 8 жыл бұрын
"Keep your stick on the ice." This must be an old one.
@lestenson06
@lestenson06 2 жыл бұрын
Red green show quote.
@camerondrummond8283
@camerondrummond8283 5 жыл бұрын
I love how you baited the women to speak up!
@mike0rr
@mike0rr 8 жыл бұрын
Came to the comments to see how many women popped in to correct AvE haha. Glad to see the field is more diverse then it appears to be sometimes :D
@zefrum3
@zefrum3 8 жыл бұрын
+Mike Orr ....right; its not the encouragment of husbands of these woman just messin with AvE
@qwertyasdf66
@qwertyasdf66 8 жыл бұрын
+Mike Orr Same here. I always assumed that's the reason he only addresses 'gentlemen' and always assumed he was wrong.
@areannaquintessa
@areannaquintessa 8 жыл бұрын
I'm watching it !
@tonymengela
@tonymengela 8 жыл бұрын
+areanna beyer Hot girls watching too.
@OttoByOgraffey
@OttoByOgraffey 6 жыл бұрын
100!
@can.slaughter
@can.slaughter 6 жыл бұрын
Don't fall for it.
@jamesf9610
@jamesf9610 5 жыл бұрын
areanna beyer ooohhhh wow and very beautiful too!!! You don't happen to be single are ya?
@TransinMontrana
@TransinMontrana 2 жыл бұрын
Just another girl watching your drive teardown! Love controls, automation, good old ladder logic and always love watching your videos. #JustAGirlandHerTools
@GrafRucola
@GrafRucola 2 жыл бұрын
Oh, this has been a long time. Feels like AvE being in my life since forever. Gotta stop thinking otherwise it will trigger some nostalgia crisis xD
@mikebarnacle1469
@mikebarnacle1469 7 жыл бұрын
My girlfriend always comments when she hears you introduce your videos with "welcome back gentlemen".
@conradlowenstein9210
@conradlowenstein9210 2 жыл бұрын
Did you guys break up yet?
@minacore5238
@minacore5238 8 жыл бұрын
I am a woman and I am watching this tear down! EE FTW
@minacore5238
@minacore5238 8 жыл бұрын
+AvE I love your videos! I've between watching all your videos.
@beaunerh8478
@beaunerh8478 4 жыл бұрын
Ya single????
@miceuz
@miceuz 10 жыл бұрын
great stuff, thanks! I want to design my own VFD, so I'm looking for everything related I can find, this was pretty usefull
@FrederSnorlax
@FrederSnorlax 2 жыл бұрын
How did that go BTW?
@p.s.4777
@p.s.4777 6 жыл бұрын
Hey AvE, Not sure if it's your hurt pride or some other issue but you freaking Rock my friend . It just shows that your human and thats awesome Wishing you and your family well and a Merry Christmas/ Happy Hanukkah . Keep choochin man !
@matthewhickey3856
@matthewhickey3856 7 жыл бұрын
Only youtuber i have found wise enough to take his dumb moves and post them publicly so we may all learn..
@sweetpeaz61
@sweetpeaz61 8 жыл бұрын
Hey! im a woman watching this teardown..ive got a dead 7.5 KW inverter i need to sort out :P
@JOHNTHE8TH1
@JOHNTHE8TH1 2 жыл бұрын
Ur a use’n your electrician voice, quite lovely
@TheYelwing
@TheYelwing 8 жыл бұрын
Man, you would love getting into Battle Bots. The hands on mechanics and the electrical aspect, the hydraulic / pneumatic stuff. You could flex all your muscles.
@TheEpicsportstime
@TheEpicsportstime 4 жыл бұрын
my wife watches your channel with me all the time
@jman0870
@jman0870 2 жыл бұрын
I know a guy who forgot to install the 120v adapter board for the 24vdc inputs on a magnetek drive. It was for an old crane with a 120v control circuit. His drive blew up in quite the same way and the funniest thing about it is he has been working with drives for 30 years as an electrician in a factory. It happens to the best of us! I’ve never wired the load lugs on a drive backwards but I know a few guys who have. They all had similar results 🤣 A wise man once told me, “If you aren’t fucking shit up, you aren’t fixing shit.” 🤷‍♂️
@PurityVendetta
@PurityVendetta 3 жыл бұрын
Hmmm, interesting... I run my Harrison M300 off a Mitsubishi VFD and mounted up the optional PU under the DRO. Makes varying the output frequency really easy. The lathe has gearing to spin up to 2500 rpm so I never really have to overclock the motor but being able to slow things right down for blind internal screw cutting is uber cool. In all fairness it does say on the first page of the Manuel not to let the angry pixies anywhere near chooching up the output 😁 Yep, I cheated and read the manual, these VFDs are just amazing little things. I still run the Bridgeport off a rotary phase converter I built myself as there are issues with the contactors running off 110v which I don't have time to sort out.
@sugarbooty
@sugarbooty 9 жыл бұрын
Where did you pirate your version of DaveCAD? I've been looking for one for a while now!
@sugarbooty
@sugarbooty 9 жыл бұрын
***** They're on to us! They censored your message! Quick, act like we were talking about something else!
@AZOffRoadster
@AZOffRoadster 4 жыл бұрын
Dave open sourced it a while back.
@driftingabstract4076
@driftingabstract4076 6 жыл бұрын
This happened on a job i was commissioning recently. The electricians landed the high voltage to the motor leads on a the vfd for a 40hp 480/60/3 motor. When that one blew... it was loud! Sounded like a gun went off. No bueno...
@mikewalsh511
@mikewalsh511 2 жыл бұрын
Wow I totally need to meet those hard to find techie engineering girls here on your channel!
@SANDSCORCHER
@SANDSCORCHER 2 жыл бұрын
Fascinating 👍🏻
@SpectreFleet
@SpectreFleet 2 жыл бұрын
KZfaq recommending me those 2013 gems.... Nice?!
@spasticmuse4262
@spasticmuse4262 3 жыл бұрын
9:16 Prelude to the legend...
@jkoll42
@jkoll42 2 жыл бұрын
11/12/21 the day a 8 year old AvE vid randomly pops up in my home feed. Someone has been slipping the algorithms some Canukastan Kopecs
@heliarche
@heliarche 9 жыл бұрын
My wife is watching this with me :P
@heliarche
@heliarche 9 жыл бұрын
She loves your vids about as much as I do. All the colorful phrases you're pulling out of nowhere cracks us both up and you're always up to something interesting. I'm lucky in that she's always elbows deep in crank cases with me so she digs this stuff too.
@Ehcorde
@Ehcorde 9 жыл бұрын
heliarche Making fun of his lisp, eh? Truly harsh, this world we live in.
@garycsfunlife
@garycsfunlife 2 жыл бұрын
This is the best part about letting the magic smoke out you get to tear it apart and see what you did even better yet you get to see if you can make it work again 🤔😁
@theCidisIn
@theCidisIn 6 жыл бұрын
Best regoo ever.
@KathrynLiz1
@KathrynLiz1 2 жыл бұрын
I run a Boxford Model A underdrive.... nice machine...
@coronaking812
@coronaking812 2 жыл бұрын
I like the 2.0 Ave
@AliasUndercover
@AliasUndercover 6 жыл бұрын
You let the smoke out!
@davebeers5133
@davebeers5133 7 жыл бұрын
Hey AvE, not your usual jovial self, everyone blows thing up now & again. : )
@danbalcom8510
@danbalcom8510 2 жыл бұрын
Did anyone else just get this as a new video?
@tobyw9573
@tobyw9573 6 жыл бұрын
Worth painting the DO NOT CONNECT BACKWARDS connections very red. If not now, then for the future.
@AbgezocktXD
@AbgezocktXD 7 жыл бұрын
Professionally drawn in DaveCAD :) You missed out on that :) it is important!!
@handyhippie6548
@handyhippie6548 2 жыл бұрын
it sucky sucks to learn the hard way, but at least you learned something useful. "if you hook up electronical gizmos backwards, you're gonna have an expensively bad time". i believe i already knew that, but don't ask me how i know. it's far too depressing to think about.
@mohammedmustefa2473
@mohammedmustefa2473 Жыл бұрын
I could find the full explanatory blog link .. can you please post it on the link ??
@garywalker7004
@garywalker7004 4 жыл бұрын
Wobbly pops!!! They make the angry pixies smoke.
@michaelgulak
@michaelgulak 7 жыл бұрын
This is the first real Ave video.
@livingdeadbtu
@livingdeadbtu 2 жыл бұрын
Came up on my feed as a new vid LOL ANNNNNY WAY - I always say - always take it apart, you can throw 5 pieces away just as easily as 1 and you might learn something and maybe even fix it!
@aa-lg8go
@aa-lg8go Жыл бұрын
Oh that was great.
@babypunkangel
@babypunkangel 6 жыл бұрын
I usually leave KZfaq on autoplay when I'm on any subject I'm interested in and I was watching some of your videos so i was on your playlist and was about to turn off the PC to go out when one of my girlfriends told me to wait because she was interested in this video after watching two or three of the ones before it. We made it about 30 seconds into the video and she called you a "narrow minded ass" and walked out of the room after hitting my computer screen with the chip she was working on, from her work station across the other end of the room. I thought it was funny, so... I'm hitting "subscribe" so i can turn on your videos when i want the lab to myself ! Can you guess what set her off? LOL
@vmiguel1988
@vmiguel1988 2 жыл бұрын
Omg how AvE style changed! I missed the gentlemaaaaaaan
@warmfreeze
@warmfreeze 8 жыл бұрын
damn i would love those heat sinks XD
@noejitta
@noejitta 7 жыл бұрын
the other video is gone, where did it go....i was looking for the one you had pulled apart that was hooked to your rock crusher
@RustyorBroken
@RustyorBroken 2 жыл бұрын
Uncle Bumble had not yet been born.
@karol4775
@karol4775 2 жыл бұрын
I recently learned that the JCI series 2 VFD which is EATON H-MAX series will take AC 3 phase into its output and live with it (I am sure if it was trying to output power that would not have been the case)
@godztempus
@godztempus 9 жыл бұрын
Flyback diodes blew. Just too small to handle the inrush current to the capacitors at startup. If you put some current limiting resistors in series you could actually get the drive to power up from the output power. In fact, when you are decelerating a load the current that flows back and causes the DC bus to rise flows through those flyback diodes. There were a bunch of assumptions that led to me powering up a 1200A VFD from the output stage. For this particular lesson we were lucky enough to have only a 300A breaker on the front end. That saved our bacon. We did have to wrastle new 350MCM cables for both the input and output stages to fix that fuck up.
@cdrive5757
@cdrive5757 11 ай бұрын
Misprint? "1200A VFD". Should read 1200VA VFD or 1200W VFD. Wakodahatchee Chris
@godztempus
@godztempus 11 ай бұрын
@@cdrive5757 no, 1200A is correct. 1000HP heavy duty rating
@cdrive5757
@cdrive5757 11 ай бұрын
Meanwhile, back here on Planet Earth!
@seq165432
@seq165432 2 жыл бұрын
Know what? Ya got one of those six-way diodios in your old truck's alternator!
@mohammedmustefa2473
@mohammedmustefa2473 Жыл бұрын
Hey there can you please please do a full video on repairing single phase to 3 phase vfd repairing???
@BaileynBeta
@BaileynBeta 2 жыл бұрын
Spark fun sticker!
@rjust2297
@rjust2297 Жыл бұрын
Second trip to harbor freight still terrifying
@iaov
@iaov 7 жыл бұрын
Automation Direct has some inexpensive and sophisticated toys if ya dig PLC's and 4-20 control stuff.
@johnboforsyth5970
@johnboforsyth5970 6 жыл бұрын
hahhaah all the women come out from the woodwork
@garbo8962
@garbo8962 3 жыл бұрын
If you want to see smoke & a extra loud noise energize a 125 HP VFD. I replaced a bad IGBT in what Danfoss tech called a 6 pak without replacing bad small control board. I moved ramp up time to 60 seconds. When it got to 10 Hertz IGBT blow up. Thought I was back in Nam with the extra loud noise. Was told that all drives 5HP & under are now considered throw aways. Does anybody repair boards on larger drives anymore? Throw away large boards from 60 to 125 HP because drive company does not repair them.
@martehoudesheldt5885
@martehoudesheldt5885 2 жыл бұрын
at least you did it good.
@henrinaths1
@henrinaths1 2 жыл бұрын
Finally.. something I can use. Lol jk I’m Constantly taking something apart trying to figure out why it blew up. (Nothing I did it, just blew up on its own “ wobbly pops” or not .) Ok MAYBE I have a vfd for my drill press But I’m just maybe a little gunshy. I’m taking lessons thanks bud! Looks Like the same one.
@AZOffRoadster
@AZOffRoadster 4 жыл бұрын
At first I thought Vacuum Florescent Display. Nah, this is AvE.
@dwaynemadsen964
@dwaynemadsen964 2 жыл бұрын
👍
@Abeuss
@Abeuss 2 жыл бұрын
The company I work for built the automation direct headquarters here in Georgia. The guy that owns it is said to be generous. maybe he’d sponsor you.
@JdCraft
@JdCraft 9 жыл бұрын
funny my gf was watching this vid not too long ago, shes a shop dork as well
@jamesharrell4360
@jamesharrell4360 4 жыл бұрын
Lucky
@jmgraydz
@jmgraydz 7 жыл бұрын
female here lol watching
@lariveePhoto
@lariveePhoto 2 жыл бұрын
Got tricked by the Algo again, showing me a 10y old video, lol.
@sidetrackedbehemoth747
@sidetrackedbehemoth747 6 жыл бұрын
Just came here to see the comments of the 10 or so women on the planet that are actually watching this
@VanillahGarillah
@VanillahGarillah Жыл бұрын
A very young sounding AvE
@matthewogles514
@matthewogles514 2 жыл бұрын
Look at them young hands!😂
@premitive1
@premitive1 Жыл бұрын
Is Practical Machinist still good?
@vitukz
@vitukz 3 жыл бұрын
which blog? that empty one?
@leebatt7964
@leebatt7964 2 жыл бұрын
I am not above asking my helper to verify my wiring before power up. It has saved me more than a few times. Everyone screws up occasionally.
@dominocweber9763
@dominocweber9763 4 жыл бұрын
You let out the snoke! Small little vfd. Fractional or 1 horse? Not very many people seem to understand how a vfd works. I work on them quite often as i am a pumping equipment technician and 3 phase motors and 3 phase submersible motors are very common. I typically get my hands on 7.5hp to 200hp vfds
@gregoriobazan89
@gregoriobazan89 2 жыл бұрын
This be a yee ole Mr beater flick
@syverjove
@syverjove 3 жыл бұрын
Did that once. Let all the magic smoke out of a $6000 VFD. Vice President and I had a sit and chat about that one. Haint done it but the once.
@spudd86
@spudd86 8 жыл бұрын
What was the goo in there for?
@harveysmith100
@harveysmith100 8 жыл бұрын
+spudd86 To stop all the pixies escaping of course. Are you new to this channel?
@narc1408
@narc1408 8 жыл бұрын
one flied riode :)
@ruggerdigger
@ruggerdigger 7 жыл бұрын
that goo is non-conductive?
@Milsparro
@Milsparro 8 жыл бұрын
Schneider ATV312 will amazingly not blow up, and will actually pop the screen with a helpful fault when you do this. My field techs are often stupid.
@GregariousAntithesis
@GregariousAntithesis 4 жыл бұрын
Why the heck wouldnt they put a fuse on the power board ?
@MrSplic3r
@MrSplic3r 5 жыл бұрын
4:30 "..Need to find your DC bus in order to troubleshoot your input.." looks at both sides, flips to other side "to troubleshoot your inputs, and to troubleshoot your outputs." I think we know where you went wrong last time
@droddy2hottie
@droddy2hottie 8 жыл бұрын
In the several videos I've heard you casually mention the price of the microscope, it just keeps getting cheaper and cheaper lol First it was like 100 and then 99 and then 75 and now 30. Pretty soon, I feel like I'm gonna watch something where you say they paid you to use it!
@duaneantor9157
@duaneantor9157 4 жыл бұрын
It's a depreciable asset.
@ChimeraActual
@ChimeraActual 2 жыл бұрын
Ahem, I am watching, but hope I never have to repair any of my 4 VFD's. BTW, even my Huang Yang VFD's warn against that very thing! Kate
@hannonm
@hannonm 9 жыл бұрын
Yes theres a girl watching this.....we do exist.
@ivanwindt5697
@ivanwindt5697 9 жыл бұрын
Amy Marie Only took 2 years for one to stumble here though.
@sweetpeaz61
@sweetpeaz61 8 жыл бұрын
+Ivan Windt :P
@Zanthess
@Zanthess 8 жыл бұрын
+Amy Marie There are dozens of us! DOZENS!
@SianaGearz
@SianaGearz 8 жыл бұрын
*) [This is not an actual guarantee]
@CodeAsm
@CodeAsm 8 жыл бұрын
+Sanch Arino How many of the likes will be from woman? still, I wanted to post this on my FB for any of my Techh girl friends to watch (dint, cause there are apparently some watching anyway) (note the space between girl and friend...)
@sandozdelysid
@sandozdelysid 2 жыл бұрын
O.G. BOLTR.
@NickToland
@NickToland 2 жыл бұрын
My Da and brothers always called me "a big gurl" so there is always a gurl watching
@travisheck5979
@travisheck5979 7 жыл бұрын
the only comments are from women's vitriolic reaction to his assertion that there are no ladies here. I wanted to comment: thanks for the good laugh man, your channel never fails to amuse
@sonofsupernova3455
@sonofsupernova3455 2 жыл бұрын
Good grief you sound so innocent here.
@kickinbackinOC
@kickinbackinOC 6 жыл бұрын
Hooked it up backwards? Sometimes you just have to forgive yourself for being Canadian! Hah hah! Just kidding, jus kiddin'! "The magic blue smoke monster", hah hah, this guy is funnier than sht!
@VICTORTOBE1
@VICTORTOBE1 8 жыл бұрын
Unless exceeding the rating of the cap it wouldn't blow because of ac or dc. AC passes through a cap with a phase shift and dc is blocked.
@jmgraydz
@jmgraydz 7 жыл бұрын
woman here and watching and in Seattle lol
@dominicank.o4630
@dominicank.o4630 5 жыл бұрын
As suspected from Seattle
@kiwingenuitynz7799
@kiwingenuitynz7799 7 жыл бұрын
Could always be worse... it could have been four drives.. say around 22kW with Schaffner output filters... the Pixies don't take any prisoners with them running backwards either..
@TheWilliamBurgi
@TheWilliamBurgi 2 жыл бұрын
AvE sounds almost a decade younger here
@susanbaynham-evans8453
@susanbaynham-evans8453 2 жыл бұрын
“Barse acwoods “ Nooooooooo. 😭
@oqsy
@oqsy 8 жыл бұрын
00:20-00:26- AvE is Hydra - confirmed.
@EvilChuckie
@EvilChuckie 5 жыл бұрын
Well at least one Wifee watches your vids, and she doesn't shop at IKea so no hotdogs for me........
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