And now its spouse

nah, that number would be much higher.

VERY good tip - thanks for sharing, pinned.

Just swung by there I saw no megaships nor any missions at both stations :/

Hi, the Mega ships have likely moved to a new location. As soon as I find where I'll update this reply.

@@GuyPrice Shoot... cheers mate! We're do I find the updates?

I have an old close friend named Frank and he too would get me into trouble all the time! Of course he's never gotten me killed, but he doesn't play video games so if he did that would, uh, suck.

@@Exigeous since we weren't really planning on doing much I was kind of annihilated. I was trying to escape but I kept opening my cargo bay and closing my landing gear. Then I would pop my landing gear and close my cargo bay. There is no winning that night LOL it was my destiny

I fought thargoids today (Krait, Guardian Gear)and I thought it would be joy of a combat, but it's a pain of a combat, they're hard to target and track as the Scouts move pretty fast, too difficult to follow target with Thrustmaster Hotas, I managed to kill Scouts, but still Gauss canon is so slow to charge, Cyclops on the other hand is quite a dreadful experience at least in Krait MK2

@@Turanic1 thrustmaster hotas x and its variants are too inaccurate for aiming rails. T16000M is way better in my experience but its rotation wears off quickly and becomes noisy but the other two axes are excellent.

try using more maneuverable ships, and keep yourself at optimal turning speed more often. It helps in dogfights. If a ship looks like its gonna beat you, it will kill you, run. Try doing advanced combat scenarios and looking up tutorials. You can also try the CQC arena to get better at dogfighting.

Not to flex but more to inspire: I suck at human to human combat but I’m somewhat of a prodigy in thargoid combat. I highly suggest you try it before you make any assumptions like I did.

Unlimited POOOWAAAARRRRR!!!!

Nah theyre using force judgement. The color gives it away.

dewit

Thanks, I really appreciate that - feel free to share you thoughts with Frontier as I obviously agree with those sentiments ;-)

And Yamiks for comedic sincerity.

@DualityJack well I mean to fight the Thargoid's lol *turns a blind eye to the crimes* Be cool to have player control frigates

DualityJack for the greater good of mankind sacrifices must be made. The many outway the few

@DualityJack and the Imperials in Elite Dangerous are massive slave traders and a group of horrible nobility with some stylish ships.

@@viking197 that would be the anaconda corvette and cutter, however cruisers and fleet carriers are more vulnerable to the interceptors shutdown field.

@DualityJack to be fair if they didn't steal those kids humanity would be screwed

Thanks my friend, you're not too bad yourself ;-)

You're most welcome, hopefully you'll be squishing bugs more easily ;-)

I hope if you check it out you'll come back and let me know how it goes, it really is some of the most fun non-PvP combat in the game.

@@Exigeous... certainly will do. So far I haven't engaged in any Thargoid combat yet as my game time each week is limited, but you're recent guide has certainly whetted my appetite. I've recently subscribed to your channel too as there's some pretty useful content in your videos. I'm a veteran of 3 years in this game and about to turn Combat ELITE and yet there's still always new things to learn. Keep the guides and the new content coming!

Thanks my friend - yeah, even after 3 years there's still shit to learn in Elite isn't there? While people say it's a mile wide and an inch deep the liquid in that inch is really thick and viscous isn't it??

@@Exigeous ... well, yes and no imo. What they've done, they've done to a very high standard, perhaps arguably set a 'new' standard. But I do find myself looking towards future supporting type gameplay that sees me out of the cockpit from time to time, interacting with characters and environments as part of a personal story arc that then gets me itching to get back 'into' the cockpit. The Thargoid combat narrative as an example looks great, but then I think of the sheer volumes of Launching/Jumping/Docking ... Launching/Jumping/Docking, acquiring what I need between then and now. That's why I look towards a time when the 'in between bit' is as fun as either end. If that makes sense.

You're right in that the parts of Elite that are great are damn near amazing aren't they? It's just that there are few things "to do" vs. other games and while those few things are very detailed (like the flight model) it sure would be nice if we'd get additional content wouldn't it?

I hope you'll reply back and let me know how it goes. It's definitely harder with shields - make sure you at least have military hull and that in your optionals you're using a single class 5 module reinforcement and the rest standard hull reinforcements. You should be able to get about 2k hull that way, if you go just shields you won't last long at all.

@@Exigeous I'll deff let you know how it goes. I'm running a grade 3 and 5 guardian hull reinforcements and a grade 3 module reinforcement along with military grade armour. My armor is at 1518. I forgot to mention I'm also running a 5A shield cell bank. Shield health is a little over 1000 but didn't finish engineering shields and boosters (ran out of materials.) I also put a class 6 fighter bay to help draw attention off of myself.

I'll admit that's a bit low for hull - if it were me I'd trade that cell bank for a hull reinforcement all day long - shields really aren't nearly as important as hull as you'll be taking hull damage through your shields anyway. I've soloed them in my DBS with no shields at all and 2400 hull - up to you but that's how I'd do it.

@@Exigeous ok thanks for the tip I'll put another guardian hull reinforcement on and see what the numbers look like. I just wish I had selene Jean unlocked but I have no desire to mine 500 tons of materials lol

Yeah, the 500 tons is a lot but if you're going to get into combat she's probably the most important engineer in the game. Between all the hulls I've engineered and all the reinforcements I probably have 25-30 modules I've engineered with her as I run a lot of bi-weave hull tank ships so it really is worth the time. If you have something big like a T9, Cutter or even Anaconda it really only takes a few hours - and with the new mining wing missions you can do it with a friend and actually make some money at it too.

Head to HR 1183 as it's very popular and you'll no doubt find others to wing/crew up with.

Oh yes, I remember - and it's great to hear from you. It's rather sad the cycle that Discord goes through given the tyrannical way it's run by people/person that doesn't even play the game anymore. As for popping in there, no, not a chance in hell I have any interest in the toxicity that place creates. My groups Discord has grown to over 700 in the past 5 months since starting the channel so I hope you'll stop by and say hi! -discord.gg/ScxyTS8

Yeah, i miss our man Exigeous. A lot of my knowledge in the game came through him

You're most welcome, glad it's helpful.

Well thank you very much, gotta say that's a pretty fantastic comment yourself ;-)

I recommend at least 1,5billion CR, you can make a shield tank anaconda with the default AX modules and this should be enough to take on the weakest class thargoid

That's not a bad idea, I'll put it on the list thanks. Although that is really damn advanced to try to learn all those so you can tell what they are in real time.

@@Exigeous I scored my first solo Cyclops kill in my Krait! Was thinking about the intorceptors' top speed, especially the Hydra. Time to try scouts plus Clops..o7

I hope you guys enjoy - that said don't feel like you must have the Guardian stuff to give it a go - I've taken them down with the fixed missiles and turreted multis - if you have enough shield/hull to last longer as it just takes longer than using the Guardian stuff.

@@Exigeous I already have one Guardian unlock...guess it is just repeating the agony twice more! The real concern is, no Thargoid ever hurt me...so maybe I am not mean enough to hurt them!

It's it sad that we have to refer to part of the game as "agony"? As for not hurting them first I do get that, as we really started this war anyway. That said since it's a video game and the combat is rather fun I say go kick some bug ass!

Oh sure, just not my personal favorites - pretty much suggested the Chief/Krait since they are new and people are using them due to that. I'm not a fan of the Gunship, especially for new pilots to it as it's not easy to fly given it's a big brick (the fighter bay is nice). The FAS for sure, that was my go-to PvP ship until the Chieftain came out and the 2 large and 2 medium to make for a nice loadout for this.

I agree about the Gunship. I used one until the Krait came out. Sold the Gunship and went back to the Dropship. The Dropship is still one of my favorites after years of playing.

While I agree that the grind gets a bit too much hate I think the problem for many of us is the absurdity of it. For example you mention the Guardian weapons - why do we have to unlock each variety, turret, fixed, gimbal of each type and each size. Meaning we have to redo the stupid puzzle over and over and over. That's where it gets absurd. I don't at all mind working for what I have, and think it's important to do so - but when it's just the same repetitive grind that's where it breaks down. I've now done the Guardian ruin puzzle 64 times between my 2 accounts and I only have the fixed varieties unlocked. And I've probably done 1000 laps around Dav's Hope, easily.

@@Exigeous yes totally agree with the fixed and turret variety of guardian weapons. It is riduculous to have to unlock both types. I have personally only unlocked the fixed varieties as well, and yes! All the hot laps around davs hope too lol. I think if they added a mini campaign/mission unlock system for these modules both old and new may be a cool way to implement these and also give an added opportunity to add to the story. How it could be done effectively though im not sure.

They are cheating with their unreal speeds, almost constantly teleporting inside of you. Doesnt matter what you do, unless you waste a month of your real life and engineer everything or just abuse the AI, its impossible to kill them.

While the Guardian weapons are very nice people have soloed them with standard AX weapons that you can just purchase and unengineered ships - it's just harder. So saying this is locked behind a grind wall isn't really far - no more so than any other part of the game. For example you can explore the galaxy with a stock Asp Explorer with a roughly 38 light year jump range but it's sure nicer fully engineered at 60 - but that doesn't mean it's locked.

Yeah, this is definitely some of the most complex combat in Elite, save for PvP. While it's tough it's really rewarding when you get that kill. Start out in a wing, or multiple wings, then start to solo them and your skill level will grow and grow.

I haven't tried this yet but sorta want to - I know the record is 2 seconds from opening fire to explosion.

There's one in every crowd isn't there! Thanks for sharing your nerd cred with us, sorry I didn't get it exactly right ;-)

@@Exigeous Sorry , I didnt mean to offend ^^ I just thought it is an amusing fact that Thargoids , which are usually perceived as evil , are using the power that resembles the one used by the "good" side of the Star Wars conflict. Still , a fantastic video , as usual

This is Peak Nerd, and this day shall now be remembered as Nerding Day. It is So Ordered.

Oh I wasn't offended in the slightest - remember text can't convey emotion and I was nothing but laughing as I wrote that - so all good my friend! Trust me, if someone pisses me off I won't be subtle about it :D

They did buff it

Personally not a fan of the Cutter so I almost never suggest it.

@@Exigeous cutter is one of the best

@@euanab_ed I prefer the vette

@@Loli_lover206 thats why I said "one of the best"

Point defence can only shoot down Thargons if they're in their kamikaze missile formation.

So disclaimer - I haven't flown this build, I do have a T10 that I've used some and this is what I'd start with: s.orbis.zone/6w5 - some notes: - It's going to fly like a brick so FA-Off will be key - It's a high skill ship to use well, especially due to the cell bank - I did the turreted AX multi due to the wide hardpoints - The fixed gauss might not work well given the medium HP placement, you'll have to try and see - you may want 2 shield boosters and 4 heatsinks instead - You'll see for the other 4 hardpoints I did turreted efficient thermal vent beams to help bleed off as much heat as possible. There are many other options you could go with as the T10 doesn't run super hot If you do build/give this a try let me know - without engineering you'd run the same thing save for the turreted beam lasers - those are only for the thermal vent experimental so if you don't have that then go with something low heat like a multicannon, etc. and only use it on the Thargoid shields. Make sense?

No, but you can destroy the missile targeting and shooting it, usually they shoot three in a row if you kill the first and second one if my memories are good.

Oh it's all good - they likely don't realize it's all counted as viewer engagement so it's great for my KZfaq rank either way!

Savage

Well I went for the Lance first as the gauss cannon is most effective against the hearts. That said the Javelin with the plasma auto cannon is pretty damn sweet and fun just to fire ;-)

Haha nice man! Thanks! And thanks for all your amazing content!

A-X conflict zones appears in systems under siege of the goids

FDL is a poor choice as it will require a lot of pip management. Some do use them as scout hunters though. For interceptors, you're better off with the Krait MK II or an Alliance gunship

Absolutely 100% agree.

Oh I'm looking forward to unlocking the forthcoming small Guardian weapons so I can take one down with my Sidey :D

This video was made before the Hydra and Orthrus were in the game.

You cannot sell materials, can you?

At the time I made the video Coriolis didn't have the large class weapons available in the app, thanks for reminding me I just updated the link (as yes, I was using the large class ones)

@@Exigeousah right! Thanks for the reply!

Whoop whoop. First interceptor kill down. Thanks to your guide. 2nd try it worked. Ones i stopped focusing too much on the swarm. Dont really need to kill it do you?

In short no. While they both do absolute damage that's not what you need against the Thargoids, AFAIK there isn't a specific damage type listed but only the Guardian or AX weapons do Xeno damage, save for against the Scouts.

Thanks, you helped me a lot. Keep up the great work!

Well no better time to give it a try and learn, you have to do it for the first time sometime, right?? Remember it's a game so if you blow up you won't actually be injured in any way.

For taking down hearts I absolutely agree - the plasma chargers are however really good at dropping their shields in the event you just don't wait for them to drop. If I were only going to unlock one module though it would be the medium gauss cannons for sure.

@@Exigeous definitely, but another very common tactic for more advanced AX pilots in taking out shields is to have a long range G5 thermal vent beam laser or two.

Oh sure, nothing wrong with that either - personally I really enjoy the plasma chargers AND a thermal vent beam as I just really like the visuals from them.

Fuck yeah it is - 8 hearts and 128 Thargon swarm - so yeah, it's fucking hard!

Well that's not the point of killing thargoids.

Ugh, there's always someone isn't there ;-)

you probably don't need this info anymore, but a cutter is a really bad option for thargoids! Cutter works best as a shield tank and you really want a hull tank for this. :)

What grind wall? You do need a well built ship but it can be done with a $150M Chieftain without any engineering or unlocking of any additional weapons. Trust me, I hate the grind too but let's be fair - while engineering and the Guardian weapons make this much easier, especially solo, it's by no means required to go have some fun with a wing.

That's the issue: "with a wing." I play this exclusively solo. I bought the game when it was being sold as being capable of offline mode and was never interested in playing with others, no matter the upsides. It's just how I like my game. Without a wing it appears I have to get guardian stuff which I hear isn't easy.

all you need to do is be good at high waking. If you are are good at that then you can practice against a thargoid with little risk. Take a cheap ship that you dont care blows up and just try flying around avoiding its attacks and avoiding thargons and see the progression of your ship as you are destroyed so you can spot a good "time to get the f outta here' moment so you know how damaged you can get and still escape. After that just get a good hull medium ship or a fast medium ship and A rate it hull reinforce it and shield boost and shield bank it. Then play with the combinations of the ax weapons til you find what works for you. Yes they arent as good as the guardian weapons but honestly the first time i beat a thargoid my ship was so toasted from gaus cannon overheating because I just kept firing and firing not caring because i had to win that when i did win my modules were toast and i almost died flying into its caustic gas from its death cuz my ship was so frail. After that I fought another one with ax weapons instead to prevent me from going overboard and I was actually in better shape when i won. The thargoids arent grind locked really. They are a bit progression locked if youre solo because you need to buy a decent ship and a rate it but thats how it should be really. But you in no means need to grind or engineer. It just helps a lot. And also getting the gaus cannons alone shouldnt take more than an hour or so. But just try practicing and playing with the thargoids first. Its not impossible. Watch lots of videos too. IF someone can beat a thargoid with a imperial courier then you should be fine

Agreed, if you're just set on playing solo you can still do this without unlocking Engineers or the Guardian weapons - just know you may die or be prepared to high wake. All you need is something like a Krait or Vette/Conda built like I suggest just without the engineering. It'll be a little harder but saying it's locking behind a grind just isn't true.

Well then make friends with those that already play Elite!

@@Exigeous I live as a Expat in China, its pretty hard to make friends when you can't understand whatever the heck people are saying