Detailed tour around the first American jet fighter! The Lockheed F-80!

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Join me in this guided tour of a Lockheed F-80C (P-80) on display at the National Museum of the USAF in Dayton OHIO. While the Bell P-59B was the first American jet, it's underwhelming performance meant that the air force instead bought and flew the F-80.
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0:00 intro
0:15 background with Me 262, Gloster Meteor and Arado Ar 234
0:40 Bell P-59B Aircomet
0:56 start at the nose and 0.50 in (12.7mm) M3 Browning machine guns
1:28 landing gear
1:50 air intakes
4:00 wing and tip-tanks
5:00 bombs and rockets
5:15 tail
5:17 Allison J33-A-35 centrifugal compressor turbojet
6:45 cockpit and flying one
7:47 development and WW2
8:12 Korean War
8:41 T-33 trainer
8:53 F-94 Starfire
9:06 EF-88 prone pilot test
9:36 FP-80 reconnaissance aircraft.
9:44 P-80R high performance model

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@PaulStewartAviation 8 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching everyone! Please give the video a thumbs-up as the last few videos haven't done that well and I need the ad revenue to help pay for the flights to this museums (from Australia). I also hope to avoid doing product placement within the videos too so a second of your time would be appreciated. :)

@kemikade 8 ай бұрын

I love the nose on this. It’s like they started with an older prop plane and thought “hey we’ve got all this space in the nose now there isn’t an engine here” and instead of making the nose smaller they just filled it with guns.

@wilburfinnigan2142 8 ай бұрын

The Bell P59B was the first American jet, and it suffered from the low power of the British jet engine that GE was given the task to build and DEVELOP which they did why the P80 after the first proto type had a GE built and improved with more power/thrust, The Brits sent a boat load of their product to the USA as the TIZZARD Mission for RESEARCH, DEVELOPMENT and PRODUCTION and that is exactly what happened in the jet engine development. GE also saw the limitations of the centrifugal design and worked on developing the axial flow J33 engine that developed into the J47, F86 B47....

@PaulStewartAviation 8 ай бұрын

Yep the Bell was the first jet and the F-80 was the first fighter jet.

@wilburfinnigan2142 6 ай бұрын

@@PaulStewartAviation Sorry but the Bell P59 was a fighter jet and the USAAF took delivery of 60 of them and used them as trainers, Also Grumman (?) had the Phantom 1 jet fighter for the navy before the P80 and it developed into the Banshee both powered by the Westinghouse J30 Axial flow jet engine !!!!

@chrissakal532 7 ай бұрын

You mentioned the P-59 Airacomet. A really neat story is that the test pilot (I want to say it was Tony LaVier but I could be wrong) bought a gorilla mask and a derby hat and wore it on test flights. If other training airplanes from Muroc got too close, they would see a gorilla in a derby flying some strange airplane without a propeller. The idea was that no pilot, in his right mind, would want to report or talk about seeing something like that.

@CAPEjkg 8 ай бұрын

Jet engine tech has come a long way in a relatively short time.

@Alexmay111 8 ай бұрын

Again at a local museum here in Canada - we have a T33 (CT133 in Canada) on display, i've seen it a few times now in person, pretty fascinating to see how different jets from that era are!

@conradmcdougall3629 8 ай бұрын

Where is this museum? I'm in Toronto and would love to visit .

@Alexmay111 8 ай бұрын

@@conradmcdougall3629 Trenton, only about 2 ish hours east of Toronto. They've got a bunch of awesome planes, including a fully restored Halifax bomber. Lucky for me i live about 5 minutes from there lol

@johnziegelbauer4999 8 ай бұрын

@@conradmcdougall3629 Hamilton , at the Canadian Warplane Heritage Museum . You can even retract the landing gear off a T-33 there ... Awesome place .

@GordonLonghouse 8 ай бұрын

If you ever get a peek at the cockpit of the T33 look for the Panic Button. It is labelled as such and covered in black and yellow stripped plastic. If pressed, the Panic Button caused all external loads to be released. Useful if your take off run is not working out.

@myronplichota7965 5 ай бұрын

Thank you for reminding us of this stepping stone in jet fighter design!

@PaulStewartAviation 5 ай бұрын

You're very welcome! Yes the significance of this jet is often missed.

@MegaGman61 8 ай бұрын

Really looking forward to your F-105 and F-106 videos!😊

@PaulStewartAviation 8 ай бұрын

Cheers! I'm just about signed off on the F105 video (i tend to give it a few days to ponder, check for mistakes and think about additions) and start work on the F-106 video :)

@jirihamersky6152 8 ай бұрын

Yes, as always on this channel, a great presentation of this legend. Thanks.

@PaulStewartAviation 8 ай бұрын

My pleasure!

@fatbudgiekillen8997 8 ай бұрын

Good job you have Paul 🎉 Enjoyed yet another informative video.

@koh_ling 8 ай бұрын

Literally a life changing moment! Thanks Paul!

@PaulStewartAviation 8 ай бұрын

@CSltz 8 ай бұрын

When Dad started his Air Force career this was his first airplane to work on. Wish you could have made this about 5 years sooner. I’m sure that they did but they see what the results would have been with swept wings? Buy the way as best l can remember. The picture of the birds on the matting. With the stripes on the tails was his squadron. K-13 in Korea. There’s so many things on KZfaq now I wish I could show him. I even found a documentary about the base that he was stationed at during the war. Thanks I’m looking forward to the rest.

@michalpavlicek1697 8 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@PaulStewartAviation 8 ай бұрын

Thanks! 😃

@newflyer6837 7 ай бұрын

Very interesting, thanks Paul!

@jgtripreports6556 8 ай бұрын

Nice video and a great tour around the historic military plane. My grandfather have flown this Aircraft in the past. It was pleasure for me to watch your video. 😃✈️🌎

@ExUSSailor 8 ай бұрын

One of Kelly Johnson's early hits.

@grizwoldphantasia5005 8 ай бұрын

@5:00 The P-80 fillets are there because it's a low wing on a rounded fuselage. Almost all low wings on rounded fuselages have similar fillets. The MiG-15 has a mid-mounted wing which doesn't need fillets. This is one of several reasons why the F4U Corsair has inverted gull wings, so its low wing meets the fuselage squarely and doesn't need the fillets.

@PaulStewartAviation 8 ай бұрын

Interesting! Thanks for the extra info

@SaturnCanuck 8 ай бұрын

Excellent as always. I'm glad you included the F-94 Starfire. Can't wait for the F-105 video

@PaulStewartAviation 8 ай бұрын

Coming soon!

@roberttalarsky4238 8 ай бұрын

Enjoy your 100 series

@PaulStewartAviation 8 ай бұрын

Cheers! Two more to go! i've almost finished editing the F-105 video

@TheHobartAviationFan 8 ай бұрын

Great looking aircraft 👍

@elilevine2410 8 ай бұрын

Thank you for introducing me to that plane I never knew it existed❤

@jimbyrne9071 8 ай бұрын

Thx Paul,once again fantastic info best on youtube

@PaulStewartAviation 8 ай бұрын

My pleasure!

@petr-podrouzek 8 ай бұрын

AMAZING 🙂

@EpicThe112 8 ай бұрын

Maximum speed for the F-80 is 558 mph which makes it faster than a German Me-262 540 mph but slower than a Russian Mig-15 670 mph max speed. Because the plane was built in World War II first and then continue to the Korean War. Which is why the Korean War had the mixture of World War II airplanes and jets

@vdubboy85225 8 ай бұрын

Thanks Paul. Great video as usual!

@PaulStewartAviation 8 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

@staralliancefan1245 8 ай бұрын

Interesting video, thanks Paul!

@PaulStewartAviation 8 ай бұрын

My pleasure!

@rollertoaster812 8 ай бұрын

Great video as always , Paul. Near the end, you mention the F-94. Of interest is the F-94C variant, which has rockets housed in the nose in a circle around the radome, behind retractable doors. One of them is at the NMUSAF. I hope we get a video on that in the future!

@erickenyon4457 8 ай бұрын

Yet another great video…

@PaulStewartAviation 8 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it

@edwardpate6128 8 ай бұрын

The P-80 was simply a beautiful aircraft!

@Eric-kn4yn 8 ай бұрын

Get your eyes checked

@b.griffin317 8 ай бұрын

8:15 "Arrived in WWII but didn't see combat." A common myth. AFAIK a few did actually operate over Italy as photo reconnaissance versions before the end of the war.

@PaulStewartAviation 8 ай бұрын

True although I wouldnt consider recon as combat but I could have been clearer

@jimfinlaw4537 8 ай бұрын

Lockheed had several problems with the P-80's General Electric jet engine when they first came out. Both Lockheed Test Pilot Milo Burcham and American Ace of Aces Richard Bong were both killed while flying P-80's. The jet engines flamed out on them causing them to crash.

@PaulStewartAviation 8 ай бұрын

Didnt one of them forget to turn on fuel pumps or something simple like that? After that people starting taking checklists more seriously.

@jimfinlaw4537 8 ай бұрын

@@PaulStewartAviation I think on these early jet engines, they had to be throttled up very slowly to prevent a flameout. Some pilots use to flying piston powered aircraft simply forgot they could not slam the throttle forward on these early jet engines, which resulted in a flameout. Even the Messerschmitt Me 262 suffered from this same problem. Lockheed Test Pilot Tony Levier was badly injured in a Lockheed P-80 Shooting Star because the tail fell off during flight due to the engine turbine coming apart. He suffered a broken back in the crash and had to wear a back brace for 6 months before returning to flight status.

@johnziegelbauer4999 8 ай бұрын

My favorite place on earth , football has Wembley. Airplane fans have the US Airforce museum....

@johnziegelbauer4999 8 ай бұрын

Keep them coming Paul ....

@damrgee8279 8 ай бұрын

It always amazes me how these things can hold enough fuel to fly for hours. It looks like they can’t hold any sizable amount of fuel.

@MrShaneSunshine 8 ай бұрын

Moving engines to wings makes wings lighter im sure! Load distribution etc.

@PaulStewartAviation 8 ай бұрын

Other way around. If you add the engines to the wings you'll need to reenforce them for the weight and thrust.

@MrShaneSunshine 8 ай бұрын

This goes against my understanding of aircraft like voyager, p38, DH98, avanti and others where i understood the wing to have a reduced spar and anti-drag structures! Not wanting to appear troll-like i will bow out gracefully......i enjoy the videos. Thanks!

@PaulStewartAviation 8 ай бұрын

No worries, I might be wrong. But to me, the wings would need to be stronger if they had a lot more weight attached to them.

@Bad_Karma1968 8 ай бұрын

As always Paul a great vlog The Sabre was a big step forward for the US Putting an engine on a wing when they tended to explode was not a great idea in my opinion as when the wing falls off it doesn’t mater if the cockpit is intact ?

@kiereluurs1243 8 ай бұрын

Tail-dragging is NOT for keeping the propellor of the ground. Realise that the tail is OFF the ground at higher speed.

@PaulStewartAviation 8 ай бұрын

It was part of the reason.

@Eric-kn4yn 8 ай бұрын

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@SuperiorAmericanGuy 8 ай бұрын

Maybe the F-80 should replace the P-51 mustangs in world war 2 due to the Me 262s massacred the allied air forces and my American grandparents.

@PaulStewartAviation 8 ай бұрын

That was the plan, but the F-80 didnt arrive fast enough

@wilburfinnigan2142 6 ай бұрын

SuperiorAmerican guy the P51 Mustang was credited with 120 kills on the Me 262, and the Me262'sdid not shoot down that many Mustangs, hell the P47 got 25 the Brits got 10 and a B17 tail gunner got 2and the Germans only ever had less that 200 in service, Yes there were about 1400 airframes built but there were no engines for them, they never flew. thats 157 of the less than 200 ever in service destroyed !!

@SuperiorAmericanGuy 6 ай бұрын

The Me 262s deserved to be grounded permanently for the deaths of my American grandparents and all those allied aircraft. Also since America shredded those F-14s might as well get rid of all the Me 262s.

@mytube001 5 ай бұрын

@@wilburfinnigan2142 Many of the Me-262s were shot down on approach to landing or just after take-off. They were low, slow and perhaps not on high mental alert. The Me-262s mostly went for the bombers, so there was a strong asymmetry in what they were going for. The Allied fighters had no bombers to go after over Germany, so they only had to focus on the fighters.

@Endidixknsej 3 ай бұрын

@@SuperiorAmericanGuyyour logic is ridiculous

@Eric-kn4yn 8 ай бұрын

Areodynamically me262 ĺooks far more sophisticated and would have been even faster unpainted clean speed version hit 624mph ww2