Great advice and thankyou for your kind words and great input

I run #8.5 tungsten super shot for ducks and geese, #9.5tungsten for upland

Glad you enjoyed it

just seen this -sorry for late reply Mark sometimes comments do not show up for weeks, i will be doing something with the 28 bore later

TSS is great, but the problem is you have to be independently wealthy to shoot them in any number.

@@JohnB-dr8sk not really. You can buy bulk loose shot, a sack of overshot cards, and roll crimp in a cheap drill press. Beyond that one needs only a hammer and punch to deprime hulls. I can reload for comparable money of say boss bismuth 12ga rounds. $1.59ish per stick. I dont shoot extremely high volume, nor do i hunt every day, or make my living from hunting. What i do enjoy is making the most of each shot each shot i take. I have triple the pellet density as steeln better penetration, more downrange energy delivered on target, and a far more devastating round overall. Rarelyn and i mean rarely do i ever need to follow up with a second shot on downed birds. If they fall theyve usually caught plenty of pellets to immediately stone them mid air. Even at 50yards, its rare even on big ducks that i have to search for pellets in a bird. They burn through like a damn laser beam. So in shortn yes it is more $$$per shot, BUT when i can run a wider pattern, more open choke, and triple the pellet density per shot, and never need a 2nd shot to kill cripples, it really is not any more expensiven and i routinely can drop 2 birds, sometimes 3 with one shot at 30yards and beyond if theyre clustered up. Steel has its place, as does bismuth, but when im aweekend warrior with 4 of my young boys with me, somebody needs to do damage on the birds as theyre youngn like to shoot, but mostly miss.lol

i think a 410 is handy at close ranges for learning to handle a gun, but beyond 25 - 30yds they are really a weapon for expert shots and these experts would have special loads beyond that range, i think you would be better with 28gauge and 21grms of shot to begin with

we are hilly billies thats why👌

not done any

just seen this comment so apologies for late reply, thanks Stevie i will try and source one maybe it could enlighten me further

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Hi Mike, i think it is time to have a go on some nice sporting partridge within the little 410s range and my capabilitys, just to see how we get on with one another

i don't think any of the factories will be happy with my next film only factory 410 loads!! i have got my men out now collecting a wide range of of the shelf loads, i did not test gamebore because it was a spur of the moment test with what i had available at that time "just to get the debate running" i think we have succeeded in getting enough interest to further the debate, which will eventually persuade/enable 410 users to seek better loads.

Dave Carrie Shooting brilliant news dave, I’m only at Worksop and have some Fiocchis if you need any of those in 3 inch 6 shot and 7.5. Keep on at them hopefully this leads to real change in the .410 loads available, If the Americans get it right then our manufacturers should, we are miles behind.

Thanks Liam much appreciated

thank you for your input sir

thats the way it is ...sir !! ;))

Does this include the 10 bore fowling guns as well?

@@eliast2351 yeah..thats my opinion .. ;)