This guy is the reason free services eventually start to cost money.

2 years ago I wanted build the exact same fuse mount thingy with telegram, but gave up since it was very very very much ambitious for my knowledge in systems file i/o operations. Really informative content, Keep em coming. Enjoyed every bit! ❤

I was kinda surprise when I found your channel. You’re underrated for the type of content you’re making

1 correction, when I mention at 10:37 that Telegram is doing some encryption stuff and maybe that's why it's slow, this is incorrect. Though Telegram DOES support encryption, this was not an encrypted chat, so that wouldn't make things slow. Another clarification, I knew what RAR was before my last video, just not that it could break files into chunks and password protect them. I guess I phrased this badly :)

Can you open source this? Would like to contribute. Or you have already and I haven't reached that point in the video

I JUST saw your part 1 video of stealing storage from discord and your part 2 is up by the time I finished the video(uploaded an hour ago)!

The algorithm has brought me back. Thank you.

I was thinking to create a file storage platform based on telegram, and you made it much much easier ❤

You're amazing. I had always given up on my dream of becoming a programmer, but you sparked it once more.

Anyday Google Drive, Dropbox, or other cloud storage can change their policy or go down. That is why it is always a good idea to have multiple backup plans.

that's amazing lmao to be honest, this approach is much easier than the previous one. it took me around 8 seconds to think of a way to create this, but the only difference is that i would have to use something like a /sync to send the new pictures/videos

Same here. First I watched your video related to Discord unlimited storage and then realised why didn't i used telegram and then i upgraded my code for telegram.

Telegram is slow for non premium especially in the evening (in Europe), sometimes downloading a simple 20MB video takes forever.

Very interesting video again!

Yay, got into the video! Great video dude!

can you reduce the background music volume next time?

Hey man! Could you mentioned in the description that people also can TELEGRAM-UPLOAD from Pypi?

I would've written each chunk as their own file and have a metadata file (FAT) for each message id part to the file. if you overwrite, you replace the initial X block files and delete the rest if they are smaller, or create new block files if they are bigger.

awsome i always wanted to do omething like that ! uploading photos to some place and showing them dynamically from my deployed web app

On discord, why dont use another channel to save the name and the file ids? Or at least make a backup of the id list every once in a while on Google Drive, Dropbox, (Telegram, Discord,) etc.

Another great video!

FUSE sounds like it might be relevant to a problem I've had on my to do list to solve. Is this the same term used by the Windows ecosystem for the concept?

You mentioned having to do some unconventional things to get the library to work for dlscord, what might those things be? I’m working on a different project but I’m needing to call functions in my bot too and I’m struggling

I’m from the future, you’ll have at least 500k subs by the end of this year man

There are no good fuse tutorials in yt search, you should add fuselib or something to the tags or title of the video. I intend to use this for a personal server of mine if i can figure out how to get it working on my linux machine. Theres already some fusefs stuff going on under the hood so it can't be too bad... right? Edit: i downloaded the example script amd your telegram fusefs script as examples so hopefully I can make sense of it with those.

This is so good!

i use telegram as a backup mainly for the photos from my phone but also other important files. the main drawback is that the download and upload speeds can be quite slow sometimes.

Sure, these are “bad” download and upload speeds if compared to transferring files to a local drive, but what about enabling it to sync just like Nextcloud or OneDrive does? Wouldn't it be awesome to use this in order to have locally stored files backed up to the cloud. I could assume the Nextcloud client would be a huge help to implement something like this here! What do you think?

I have a question?? Does the files last as long as the telegram exists?

this is amazing

I would love to see a fuse system that cache usb-drive metadata only. Meaning I dont have to connect the usb-drive to my computer to check what files I had on it last time it was connected.

wasn't there Unlim Cloud app which used telegram for storgae. Or did it stopped working?

7z supports encrypting, splitting, and compressing files into chunks and has better compression ratios than rar. I would also use the brotli fork, as it has an even better compression algorithm.

Great video!

One thing I noticed in your design layout was the decision to encrypt each segment of the total file separately. While this does not affect functionality, it can impact the information security of the uploaded data. By encrypting each chunk separately, with what I assume is the same symmetric key, you run the risk of crypto-analysis on the file chunks revealing data on the key and or plaintext. The reason for this is due to the fact, because of the segmented nature of the encryption, you are effectively re-using the same key for multiple encryptions. While this is not a huge deal practically, it is still a possible attack vector. A simple solution would be to simply encrypt the entire file once, and then split the encrypted data afterwards. Other than that (unrealistic, you used CBC mode by the looks of it, so IV helps a lot) security vulnerability in a scheme that was made for fun, amazing video! I must say, I love over-the-top systems that solve problems in a way-more-than-necessary manner simply because it can 😂

The caching scheme you implemented does not let you read files if they don't fit in RAM. Fuse manages data in chunks to allow working on files larger than free memory.

btw the teldrive owner got his own rclone fork that supports teldrive. I was using rclone mount and it was working perfectly fine :)

did you also purchase premium? it's cheap iirc and it says speed does increase for premium users.

What about creating a bunch of google/microsoft account and store files in there?

sounds great for a backup system that has no guarantee the data will remain there 😅 Those file upload speeds don't seem right though... Would adding more upload/download workers improve the performance? The data may need to be split into chunks for each worker, but it may be faster overall?

NIce, just installed teldrive, just make sure to use your own api id and hash

A lot of specialized file download software can download a file using multiple connections simultaneously, maybe you can use that to improve speeds more?

This is honestly a pretty interesting example of filesystem optimizations. You're treating the network as a very slow SMR hard disk, and trying to find a way to optimize on top of that by adding your own (very large...) buffer cache with readahead. 10:57 :)

This is actually good if you dont want certain files on four system. This way you can just drop them on a "cloud" that has no connection to you

TIP: Try to send all the zipped files togheter and to download all of them togheter and then allow the user to modify, etc., so the flow should look like "read:download all (storing in temp)->check if they are all (by seeing witch are the missing ones checking their names from the DB file)->once they're all merge the file->show the file", " write: if the new file was used less then x time ago (ex. 2 hours ago), wait; else, move the file to temp->split in chunks->check and write to db->upload->check with db". Like 3 months ago, I tried to do the same thing by hand, separating the files with Winrar and uploading them slowly, and it worked, but if I have to upload a lot of things, it could get messy. PS: We also have to think about resuming upload after power-up and checking partially uploaded files during shoutdown, but it can be resolved by leaving the files in temp until they're fully uploaded with the checks mentioned before and other checks when booting and shutting down the PC (we write the queue of files to upload and download somewhere in the database to know what we were doing before the shoutdown). Nice video, keep on going man, I love these kind of things. Sorry for my bad english btw.

Wonder if Guilded would be faster then discord as it offers 500mb file upload limit

What about steam could you store files on steam using there cloud save feature

I have an idea can you create an GUI for telegram only for uploading the files like if the members is free the file limit will be 2GB I'd the premium users is 4GB limit so if this idea create an GUI project is bit more powerful to use ??❤

yes. i found this method about 2,5 years ago but i never automated it, i couldnt do it. i was waiting for someone to do this application. thanks

i never thought of telegram for storage

Does this provide any form of redundancy? Cause why would you otherwise even bother the slightest... There are zip programs out there making raid like redundancy possible for zip files. Multipar for example.

Maybe it is better if you just sync the file in the background, possible make small chunks to have multiple upload run simultaneously? Now with 2 different providers(telegram + discord) you can actually have raid 1?

Cool keep up 🆙 👍 😅

It'd be fun to have a whole OS stored in telegram, and have your bootloader fetch if form there every time you boot up the PC.

How is this not a negative for telegram? I love telegram as a service, I don't think I'm a fan of potentially them bearing more load then they need to when the provide such an amazing service so cleanly. Is it reasonable to ask to rethink this? Maybe do it to someone like Apple?

Can we do same thing with Javascript? if someone can update me on this coz i have no idea about python but i want to try this in JavaScript

any windows alternative to FUSE?

On a TDLib level for telegram you can request parts of the file instead of the whole file from the storage

thank you

great vid, but htf do you not know rar? is it some sort of generational gap?

How about make telegram and discord on a raid like thing?

I love it when you do this lol

What about pings? You can give them data and they'll send it back. Just do that a lot of times a second sending data to different IPs and you're storing data.. over internet wires!

Why not use read write streams for uploading and downloading. And then in the pipeline add a counter for the amount of chunks that got written or read.

Very nice

i LOVE fuse stuff, i've tried to do a similar thing in windows with terabox because the client sucks, but it didn't work out

MEGA does 50 gb ?

KISS instead of fighting against the cache. Upload the chunks and not the whole files. That would improve random access times in case you want to read or start reading from a random part. Pretty much the same way FAT stores files in chunks. It might even help if you implement some sort of parallelization in the pipeline. Ive seen mny of these tools, i find them interesting, i remember there was one to store files on email accounts (back when goggle falsely advertised infinite storage). Good job on using py fuse. Like others i would have used 7z to split and encrypt.

People who experiment with these free storage tactics are a large part of the reason why tech companies have started putting up paywalls for their services. Server space doesn’t grow on trees.

i loved the Rick and Morty reference

I have noticed, that the download speed is kinda slow even when you download files normaly. So I think it actually has to do something with their servers

Brother do you know how to link yt dlp on telegram

Can it run DOOM?

Store files on KZfaq with digital data modes like OFDM-3500.

what if you emulate how ssd works

Can you get ban from telegram for doing this ?

fsync/fflush: exists devdetour: reinvented cache goes brrrrr

I see we have advanced pretty far from the time I used a free ad-supported web hoster with filesize limits and a PHP script to concatenate split files.

Is this safe to store content in telegram?

Imagine you could sync with this like with Nextcloud ^ ^

start teaching coding ngl your really fun to watch❤❤

Actually, HTTP supports something called download range, which only downloads the requested range from a file.

Isn't this not safe? Maybe your files,documents,text files etc... can be leaked some how? Or im wrong please comment i want to use this "type" system in my project thanks.

how to make a video player that is hosted online but it uses telegram data

figo, iscritta

i wanna learn computer science like coding stuff how to start

No need for Samba on your Linux host, if you want to run it on windows there is WinFsp, which is basically FUSE for Windows.

Not that interested in the storage stuffs, I'm just curious how you did the animations in your video. For example, at 1:33, the animation of the arrow sliding down another graphic. I see that done often in online courses but don't' know how to do it. Could you tell more / do a simple tutorial about that? Thanks :)

DAMNN

you can store your data on KZfaq by uploading videos and use them as filesystem

What if telegram will cut this feature?

Isnt telegram automatically download all files to ur phone?

6:39 Code salesman: **Slaps roof of Time Complexity** "This bad boy can fit so much N in it."

tbh when you live in a country where an SSD costs an entire months paycheck, a free but shitty cloud service doesn't seem that bad.

I completely forgot rar files were a thing. Don't really run into them outside of torrenting games.

2:50 Literally me with all of my projects 😭

I didn't have enough storage space so I used KZfaq to store all my videos, including my own film which took months of tedious work to make. Then KZfaq deleted my channel, destroying everything. Don't trust online storage!

You used FUSE and still - no random reads/writes, missed a huge opportunity to allow streaming media with low latency, torrent seeding and many other things.

genius

This is the type of abuse that ruins things for everybody else. Well, I guess the fact that you don't abuse it by creating hundreds of accounts to accomplish this and only use your single account makes it a little less problematic.