Why the Stingray CRUSHES Everything
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With that powerhouse pickup (close to the bridge for maximum honk) and active electronics, the Music Man StingRay remains an instrument that fulfills a particular job with enormous panache. If any bass can really compete with a Fender, this is the one!
From RATM to Chic to Pino Palladino to Joe Dart, in today’s lesson we’re taking on some of the StingRay’s greatest moments.
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Video Breakdown:
00:00 - Introduction
00:47 - Short History of Leo Fender
02:54 - The Birth of the StingRay
03:51 - Bass Legends Playing the StingRay
04:59 - Different Tones of the StingRay
05:30 - Bernard Edwards
06:15 - John Deacon
07:00 - Gail Ann Dorsey
08:21 - Improvements in the StingRay
11:30 - Tony Levin
12:33 - Pino Palladino
13:14 - Different Tones of the StingRay
14:08 - Flea and the Red Hot Chili Peppers
15:40 - Tim Commerford
17:21 - Joe Dart's Bass and Tone
20:07 - Summary
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@TheBangAttack 2 ай бұрын
These two bass players man… this is not a KZfaq channel anymore, this is prime time TV. They are SO good. And they just casually chuck tabs down the bottom for iconic basslines. Wonderful!
@devinebass 2 ай бұрын
Cheers for that!!
@benhicksbass 2 ай бұрын
They also are extremely entertaining and have such good chemistry lol
@rodshop5897 2 ай бұрын
TheBangAttack, you are speaking truth. The two of them have taken this channel to the point where it's one of the few YT vids I watch all the way through at normal speed. The chemistry, the quality, the music and history are all great.
@marceloloustaunau7715 2 ай бұрын
It’s not the bass design. “it’s allways bassist’s fingers”
@user-km3fn2oc9r Ай бұрын
Excellent video(s) gents. Thoroughly entertaining banter, blistering bass skills, and genuine knowledge about the instruments and the music...Now a go to channel for me...Keep it up gents!
@henriksandakertangen6782 2 ай бұрын
And then, in 1980 Leo Fender got together with George Fullerton and perfected the bass once again. G&L was born, and you really should cover those basses as well!
@phantom_spaceman 2 ай бұрын
I recently got a G&L CLF Research L-2000 and it absolutely crushes. One of the nicest bolt-on basses I've every played!
@DrRock2009 2 ай бұрын
@@phantom_spacemanhad mine 23 years, never let me down 👍
@steviedebarge77 2 ай бұрын
Yeah they are good Basses’s & definitely well put together but they never get the attention that the stingray’s got which I feel is the reason you don’t see them being played on the circuit often my G&L 2500L was my first 5 string i owned and it definitely made it difficult for others 5 strings to get much playing time due to its comfort
@florkgagga 2 ай бұрын
What about the MM Sabre? I had it in my hands and almost bought it in 92, but the circumstances wouldn't allow. It's off topic slightly but you seem to know your stuff in this thread. One day I will add a MM or G&L (thanks to the comment above) or both to my small collection.
@jeredalmeida1880 2 ай бұрын
Took the words right out of my mouth. L 1500 and ASAT are two of the most versatile basses I've ever played and they just sound so rich.
@targetpanicrecords 29 күн бұрын
I just recently purchased my first stingray and I really didn’t know the ins and outs of its capabilities for the first few weeks, however when I finally got it to rehearsal with my band I’m not kidding when I tell you that everybody looked at me with their mouth open in their eyebrows raised and remarked on how much cleaner and bigger I sounded. I play punk rock I both use a pic and my fingers depending upon my song sometimes both in the same song no matter what I do you can hear all that attack that I need to cut through all of punk rock guitars I truly am amazed by this magical beast that is my first music man stingray! Thank you Leo Fender
@TerryNails 2 ай бұрын
I started using stingrays in 1976 when he first came out when I was founding member of the band Tommy Tutone. If used them on many different recording projects including when I worked with Ozzy on the no more tears album (Bob Daisley and I did most of the bass work). During the years I've tried everything from alembic to kabiki's and everything in between and I ended up back using stingrays exclusively again. I found a good deal on an early 2003 musicman sub bass with a passive circuit and I found that it is probably the best sounding days I've ever played in the recording studio. I also found out that Gail Ann Darcy went to using passive stingray basses herself that she had to custom order. I knew Bernard Edwards and was lucky enough to be in the studio with him when he was producing the band missing persons. He is the one that got me back into using flat wound strings on my stingrays which I had originally done back in the '70s. I'm glad to see you guys doing an episode on these basses because I've always thought that they were the best all-around bass ever made. Cheers!
@scrubbingmonkeys2488 Ай бұрын
Huge shout to ya Terry. Big fan of the first two Tutone albums. What a great collection of tunes. Bee on my 86 stingray since 89. I too have had Alembic,Modulus and the like but nothing else measured up. She is passive now with a single coil option as well as series parallel using the original pickup and push pull pots so no mods.
@TerryNails Ай бұрын
@@scrubbingmonkeys2488 Tommy and I just finished up doing the background vocals on a new album today. It's probably the best stuff we've done so far. Hopefully we'll get it out somewhere where people can hear it. As you know it's not as easy as it used to be, lol! 🤞😁👍
@scrubbingmonkeys2488 Ай бұрын
Thats great news Terry. The first albums are a fixture on my mp3 player. I use several tunes of those records as reference tracks for mixing rock stuff. They sound so crisp and defined with drums you can hear. It probably has to do with great arrangements also. Plenty of space for everything to breathe. Favorite tune......Cheap Date.
@KimSE4 Ай бұрын
I strung my 'Ray with flats and ... this is weird but the first set I put on were cheapie Olympics and they were KILLER! I thought, well, if these are good why not put really quality ones on and fitted a set of LaBellas but they are too bouncy and tight sounding for my taste. I think that with so much attack and power on the Musicman a the cheap flats hit the sweet spot, less like a rubber band boing and more of an old-school thump.
@TerryNails Ай бұрын
@@KimSE4 I've had a similar experience as well. I've been using thomastiks for years but found that Fender 9050s sound the best on mine.. 👍
@DavePorterBand 2 ай бұрын
Scott and Ian, you guys are like the Jules & Vincent, Scooby & Shaggy, Batman & Robin, C-3PO & R2 of BASS ... oh, and I love the Stingray! 🔥🔥
@duartebriz 2 ай бұрын
... Beavis and Butt-Head
@nate_4594 2 ай бұрын
Perfect description haha.
@alexmacleod3728 2 ай бұрын
The Mario Brothers of Bass
@homskizl03 2 ай бұрын
Beans & Toast
@NLTipper 2 ай бұрын
Jules and Vincent 😂
@jakebeaudrie 2 ай бұрын
I've been playing a Stingray in an insanley loud punk rock band for years. Nothing beats it. Pump the mids a bit and will cut right thru anything. Awesome.
@sqidvishus 2 ай бұрын
Joe Lally agrees.
@BrainWasherAttendent 2 ай бұрын
Joe Lally is why I bought stingrays
@jakebeaudrie 2 ай бұрын
It was Cliff Williams for me but I'm old.
@itsratso. 2 ай бұрын
@@jakebeaudrie was waiting for him to be mentioned, he's always the forgotten one.
@jakebeaudrie 2 ай бұрын
@@itsratso. Ain't that the truth!
@erikklein5296 2 ай бұрын
I've used my HH stingray in cover bands for many years. It's so versatile! Motown, funk, Rock, dance, disco, reggae, ska. I've been able to dial all those tones in with the eq and switching the pickup selection. I love my HH. Totally my forever bass
@Derekjude 2 ай бұрын
Using my HH in a metal project right now after using in my punk band. Incredibly versatile
@hhblair44 Ай бұрын
Super versatile bass with the inside/outside pickup split capability. Jazz or Ric type tones. I love the broad spectrum of using both pickups as humbuckers. Can change tone by hand position.
@erikklein5296 29 күн бұрын
@@hhblair44 Totally, just last week I jumped from slap funk on the back pickup with mid hand position to doing rockabilly upright sound by going front pickup, dialing down the high end and moving my hand up to the top frets.
@spidgeb3292 24 күн бұрын
I'm a short scale player and I've banged around with pretty much every short scale I can lay my hands on. I have the Sterling Stingray and it blows everything else out of the water. Scraping up the cash for an actual EBMM Stingray SS, but in the meantime, I'm happier than I've been with much more expensive bass guitars in the past 30 years. Love it.
@devinebass 23 күн бұрын
👍👍👍
@boulax 2 ай бұрын
Leo's genius continued with G&L, cover that next please!
@punkjazz62 2 ай бұрын
totally agree!
@pigfish168 2 ай бұрын
Yup, the Wunkay please guys
@HarleyCotton 2 ай бұрын
Their basses don't get enough love! Sound great although I don't find their aesthetics particularly inspiring
@robertmessing6846 2 ай бұрын
G&L’s were also great bases and the guy I jam with has one of their guitars which sounds fantastic
@kieronmckay4276 2 ай бұрын
@@robertmessing6846 I have a guitar and a bass. Both sound great. There's definitely a little something different in their pickups/pre-amp sections, because they can get so freaking bright.
@danieltorres5238 2 ай бұрын
The BEST bass tone I've ever heard was from Sade's bassist Paul Denman. Not sure if he uses stingrays exclusively , all I do know that he was using a stingray at the time. That sound and tone inspired me to pick up the Bass.
@tompoynton 2 ай бұрын
phenomenal player
@nickrichmond6284 2 ай бұрын
His tone on Hang on to Your Love and Is it a Crime is a big part in why I got myself a Sterling ray a couple months ago
@dannycox4909 2 ай бұрын
I have played exclusively stingrays since 1980 because is Paul as well. Amazing tone
@SO-ym3zs 2 ай бұрын
The man is a master of tasteful bass lines that get the job done without flash and fuss. Ironic that he played one of the most famous bass solos in popular music. Great band and bassist.
@martinheath5947 2 ай бұрын
I was going to give him a shout out but you did it first. 100% agree man, so smooth and tasteful
@rome8180 2 ай бұрын
One thing I love about StingRays is how well they take grit. I have a Sansamp, a Big Muff, and a Darkglass pedal, and the StingRay sounds fantastic through all of them.
@ramerling 2 ай бұрын
In 2003 I started playing with a fellow kidney doc from the UK, Roger Greenwood. We started as a duo, me on bass, Roger on guitar/vocals. Over the years we added drums, keys, lead and played at nephrology meetings around the world as the Kidney Stones. We did regular events in the UK. Rather than bring over my '65 Precision, I used Roger's Stingray, and loved it. One year, I noticed it was sounding dead, and I asked Roger when he last changed the battery. He looked at me and said, "There's a battery?"
@tp63us 2 ай бұрын
I love your band name!
@Xubuntu47 2 ай бұрын
Agreed. The name is not only trippy, it's LITHOTRIPPY. I'll show myself out...
@bassimprovjams3772 2 ай бұрын
😂😂😂 nice!
@volkerjansen3901 2 ай бұрын
I bought my Stingray in 1992, and it has been with me ever since. More than 30 years now! Never let me down. Fits perfectly in my hands. Sounds great. Never had a reason to buy another bass.
@bassimprovjams3772 2 ай бұрын
Dude so awesome!!!!🤘
@primate68 2 ай бұрын
Yes, I did the same in 92. but I got a precision last year which was a good decision to become ever more versatile
@maximilian9000 2 ай бұрын
I bought my Stingray in 2004 because Flea played one. Still love it. I think of the P, J, and Stingray as primary colors of bass, and everything else is a combo of their elements.
@hydraulixx 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, Leo Fender's holy trinity of basses is all you really need.
@jamesadamgleason9471 2 ай бұрын
Y'all never played a Ricky?
@maximilian9000 2 ай бұрын
@jamesadamgleason9471 no such thing exists. Never has, never will
@peterbodington5349 2 ай бұрын
They are the 3 essential basses. Everything else is fun, but unnecessary.
@hydraulixx 2 ай бұрын
@@jamesadamgleason9471 Just recently played a 1978 Rickenbacker at my luthier's and yes, they are very fine instruments. But also pretty niche because they got such a unique character to their tone. Certainly a nice addition to the three golden Leo standards.
@daniverson3321 2 ай бұрын
I’ve loved the Stingray since hearing Flea play “Higher Ground” as a kid and then Joe Lally of Fugazi on “Waiting Room.” I had to have one. There was a translucent blue burst one at Knut-Koupee’ in Minneapolis back in the day that I dreamed of but never could afford. After I proposed to my wife I told her guys always got screwed over on the engagement front so she tracked down a 20th Anniversary Stingray in quilted maple and bought it for me. She’s a keeper and so is the bass. I play it all the time. It’s never meant to be a museum piece. The Stingray growl is undeniable. Great video, guys!
@SeddySaysGo 2 ай бұрын
i play a sting ray and love it! played a show a few weeks ago. we were the second band on. as soon as i hooked in and hit that first test note, the sound guy comes over the PA. "i know that tone, someone is playing a sting ray". i want to get another one.
@bassimprovjams3772 2 ай бұрын
Sik! And that’s how it goes it’s the one bass you know and don’t even have to be looking, the Warwick Thumb is the same way
@leethebassplayer4902 2 ай бұрын
A Stingray, for me, will always be number one. It’s just the sound I hear in my head and I’ve never been able to beat it. Great video
@shipsahoy1793 2 ай бұрын
The enthusiasm of Scott and Ian regarding everything bass is just plain infectious!! I❤it !! 🎸🎸
@NatBeedle 2 ай бұрын
It kind or reminds me of those 'Sounds of the..." commercials for Time Life where you'd have two notables from what ever decade they are selling talking a but too enthusiastically about how great it felt to hear these sweet tunes back in the day.
@shipsahoy1793 2 ай бұрын
@@NatBeedle but these guys are not trying to sell you a Stingray.. very distinct difference. Although I believe they want you to get in the contest and are hoping that you participate in the charity.
@michaelrooney3672 2 ай бұрын
My life with Fender basses began around 1971 with a Jazz bass. Prior to that I went thru a Silvertone, 3 Framus basses and a Gibson working my way up to a Fender. I thought there was nothing better than a Jazz bass until I stumbled upon a 1972 P bass in 1982 that opened my eyes to the other side of the Fender universe. Life was good until the day I saw Freebo playing a white stingray with Bonnie Rait. Then I saw Alabama using all Music Man gear and heard the Stingray used up to the magical 21st fret. The need became overwhelming. I was able to get a 79 Stingray in 1984 with the unusual Jazz bass width neck used from a fellow needing Christmas money. Of all the basses I own, that bass has always been my go to bass. Nothing else compares. I also have a 2013 Stingray Classic which is amazing but still not the 79. The other part of my bass equation is 2 JBL loaded Music Man RH 115 enclosures with an Alembic F2B and a Crown DC 300A amp which never ceases to get compliments. Even adding a Sadowsky SBP-1 to any of my J or P basses still does not rival the Music Man. Even though I have great love for all my basses, the Stingray always wins and gets the gig.
@bassimprovjams3772 2 ай бұрын
Did they do thinner necks that year or something? You have a stingray with a Jazz width neck?? A 70s Stingray is my dream bass man, your right there’s nothing like them 70s stingrays 😍
@michaelrooney3672 2 ай бұрын
@@bassimprovjams3772 It was offered in the catalog of the original Stingrays. Ernie Ball offers it now as a stingray SLO. I don’t believe they discontinued it but things change so often. You can look up the old catalogs on line from the 70’s and they show the available necks. Maple, Rosewood, Fretless, narrow Jazz and regular width. I haven’t seen that many around for sale over the years but I guess I know why. No one wants to part with them but they are out there. Happy hunting.
@michaelrooney3672 2 ай бұрын
@@bassimprovjams3772 The original Leo Fender era Stingrays were available with the Jazz bass radius neck as well as fretless, regular, maple, rosewood. It was called narrow neck. I believe Ernie Ball still offers this version and is called a Stingray SLO. You can search on line for an old music man catalog, reverb had some over the years, and it shows all the variations you could order. They seem to be a rare find as I suppose not many want to part with them. They are out there, happy hunting.
@scotkaeff7456 2 ай бұрын
I was a confirmed Precision guy. Since 1988, it was Precisions, minus a period of dalliance with 5-strings and boutique basses in the 90s. Then it was back to Precisions again until one day in mid-2023 when one of my best friends let me play a 1979 StingRay he'd refurbished after the previous owner made it a "mod monster." It changed my world. Then I had to have one. I bought a Sterling Ray34 as an intro into the world. Holy mother of...my world was flipping. I started selling Precisions to finance StingRays. My former arsenal of eight Precisions has become two Precisions, two StingRays (a 4H and a 4HH), the Ray34, and a Bongo, which is a whole other story of amazement. Total game changers.
@Charlesmclark2 18 күн бұрын
Funny I went from a 5 string sting ray to a EB-0 to a modded 4 string pbass. It just sounded better and felt better
@bassicallysquirled 11 күн бұрын
yep, Stingray 5 is the best
@BlackRootsUNLIMITED 2 ай бұрын
Bernard Edwards, one of my mentors. Brilliant 👌🏿 Louis Johnson after hearing him in 1980, I was 8 years old, I fell in love with the Bass Guitar. Pino Palladino 🙌🏿 Joe Dart 🔥 Greetings from Uganda 🇺🇬👊🏿🖤
@kodykindhart5644 2 ай бұрын
Check super secret band Much love
@CC-hg9un 2 ай бұрын
Kamala the Ugandan Giant!!
@BlackRootsUNLIMITED 2 ай бұрын
@@CC-hg9unhe paased away.
@kristapsbass 2 ай бұрын
I love the sound of the Stingray, but also the feel of these necks is just like nothing else.
@robertmessing6846 2 ай бұрын
Mine has such a great balanced feel and plays great
@mased8300 2 ай бұрын
for real! there are things I like more about my other basses, but the stingray neck is just so damn good, it wins in the end
@hampuslundgren7300 Ай бұрын
Especially the specials!
@zackmash851 Ай бұрын
yeah more than anything, those musicman basses excel because theyre just SO playable
@bricedean9618 Ай бұрын
I have had several “poor man’s stingrays”- the Ibanez ATK300… and the design- pickup placement, bridge, string thru is just amazing on this style of bass- A BIG THANKS to Leo for this!
@TitoCP13 2 ай бұрын
How did you guys forget Paul Denman from Sade? I bought a Music Man Stingray 1979 because of him and I just love! And I think that Boz Burrel from Bad Company also plays a Stingray!!
@bassimprovjams3772 2 ай бұрын
I’ll have to check him out, another commenter mentioned him too, they also forgot Cliff Williams, but I mean his tone you can’t even tell it’s a stingray unfortunately,
@TitoCP13 2 ай бұрын
True, Cliff also used a Stingray
@kylelavery842 2 ай бұрын
I am here for this love letter to StingRays! I still adore my 98' translucent teal beauty! The day I went to find one, it was the only teal bass in a sea of black, red, and sunburst. A diamond in the rough. 🥰
@Samasiam 2 ай бұрын
I love teal and I love bass and the Stingrsy design. You made me go search for a pic. Damn, that is gorgeous. Inspirational if you're especially color sensitive. Should I ever buy one, consider it a compliment. Enjoy!
@randomapples 2 ай бұрын
A band who maybe aren't so well known in England or the US but are massive in Scotland, Germany and Denmark. After being a huge fan since a very young age through my mum's influence, only discovered at their very last concert after spending the whole time just watching him play, that one of my lifelong heroes, songwriter/singer/bassist Rory MacDonald of Runrig is a stingray user. He has such a well rounded tone and fits so well in the pocket while also managing to sing in both English & Gaelic!
@robgutkowski7141 2 ай бұрын
You need to feature some G&L basses to cover Leo Fender’s compete body of work. Great basses.
@mv9787 2 ай бұрын
I tried Stingray 5-string years ago. Sounded great, but didn’t cut through mix. G&L sounds also great and cuts through mix
@mickeybreezy 2 ай бұрын
This episode is hilarious coming off the heels of Scott saying if he was on a desert island, a stingray would be the most disappointing bass to find in his case. Glad you came to your senses because stingrays rock.
@devinebass 2 ай бұрын
😅😅😅
@felirick 2 ай бұрын
I just bought a Stingray Special bass and LOVE IT... I have been a Jazz Bass player for years and it is a welcome tool.....
@bassimprovjams3772 2 ай бұрын
Awesome an! Congratulations on joint the stingray family!! What color is she??🤘
@joecasa85 2 ай бұрын
Leo Fender was the man of visions, but you guys at SBL are the bass visionaries!! 🤓So much energy and passion in your videos, dudes: you really inspire people to hear & play more & better.
@jonathandidley5262 26 күн бұрын
I’m a guitar player who plays bass occasionally on recordings and I’m likely not in their exact target audience, but I absolutely love this channel. Love it. So fun and informative. Beautiful.
@EvLoutonian 2 ай бұрын
Was waiting for an honourable mention of Fugazi's Joe Lally - iconic band, iconic sound, iconic rhythm section! Really enjoyed the video guys.
@stephenbeard9882 2 ай бұрын
Underrated bassist for sure.
@artbehrman7712 2 ай бұрын
You’ve convinced me. I apparently NEEEED a stingray. I’ve not made it all the way through yet, but Benjamin Orr used a Stingray to great effect in The Cars.
@bassimprovjams3772 2 ай бұрын
Dude go grab one ASAP! And they are getting more expensive just over the last 3 years I’ve seen them go up a few hundred bucks,
@Joe_Murphy-REV_Realty 2 ай бұрын
Damnit. Me, too! I didn't even know it until this video.
@calus7890 2 ай бұрын
I just finished modding my harley benton sting ray to give it a sting ray pre-amp and it sounds amazing, my bad is getting ready to record our first album and i’m gonna be using it everywhere on there
@walterbrazil231 Ай бұрын
I have owned 2 Stingrays. Before that growing up 4 Jazz Basses. G&L L1000 Bass 1981 first year. All Leo's creations. The Stingrays have ruled. I even had an Alembic Essence Bass in the nineties with a million different sounds. My Stingray with maple neck still sounds the best. Thanks Leo 🙏
@WhooppeeKat 2 ай бұрын
I've played a 4 string blonde StingRay, black pickguard and rosewood fretboard, for what is now 30 years. I simply love everything about it. It is always my go-to bass. Sure, I own other basses that I like to bring along on a gig, but the ol' StingRay always ends up being the one I end up using for the majority of the gig each time.
@miguelmoreno-gd1zt 2 ай бұрын
Dudes!! Never seen a G&L 1K on the channel, that bass with flats... The legend continues!!! I think is the real review of the pbass that stingray wasn,t. You,ll love it Scott
@bassimprovjams3772 2 ай бұрын
Good point!
@raducornea5540 2 ай бұрын
I think the L-2000 might be a good comparison. The pickup location on the L-1000 is positioned more like the P bass relative to the bridge. The L-2000 has 2 pickups with one being close to the bridge like on the Stingray and the other positioned more like the P bass pickup.
@FullcircleFaith 2 ай бұрын
I would love for you guys to do a video on G&L. They are the final creation of Leo before his passing. They are amazing basses and they don't get the attention they deserve.. plus the Kiloton model is essentially a passive stingray.
@markgavan2210 Ай бұрын
Yep I have 2 G&Ls have had several fenders but so far no musicman basses .Tried an old sterling and I' loved it but The G &Ls are so good and versatile .Dying to try a Big chonks but no sign in France yet
@StratmanDarrell 2 ай бұрын
I've always desired the Stingray. My favourite is the blonde with the black pickguard, but I'll settle for anything. I had a 5 String Bongo bass but I'm more of a 4 string player. Ever since I saw Benjamin Orr playing one, I said "I gotta get one".
@gregpalmer16 2 ай бұрын
Great video, guys, as always😊 The Stingray has one of the most unique bass sounds! Slap, fingerstyle, pick - it always cuts through the mix with its punch. And it works perfectly with any kind of pedals. Once you figured out how to use its sound, it will shape your band‘s overall sound essentially! Keep up the good work, guys!
@minhkhoi6788 2 ай бұрын
Would love to hear you two talking about the Leo Fender's G&L (L2000/2500) too, does it crush everything?
@henriksandakertangen6782 2 ай бұрын
Yep. Definitely the best of Leo!
@thegabaghoul93 2 ай бұрын
The year is 2050 and SBL uploads: Acoustic bass crushes everything???
@MuchasDistracciones 2 ай бұрын
contrabajo actually beats any electric bass instrument. period.
@markdaniels7174 2 ай бұрын
😂
@henrycortez2117 2 ай бұрын
I remember holding a Stingray Bass in my hands back around 1977…$500 was the price and being young and broke, I walked away. Fast forward 40 years and I finally bought me one. It is my go to bass over my P bass and Rick. Love them all but my Music Man is tops…. Great vid!
@zponchoz 22 күн бұрын
How about doing a video on Leo's last creative round of innovation with the G&L basses? G&L gets very little love or coverage for some reason. I, however, do love my G&L L2500 more than a Stingray: it does everything a Stingray does plus can switch to passive mode and from parallel to series signal routing for an instant treble boost with the flick of a switch. It has a neck pickup as well, which adds even more versatility to a single instrument.
@Obeythebeard 2 ай бұрын
My wife's daughter, who is 16, started playing bass a couple of years ago. She got totally hooked on the instrument (Well, duh!) and now has chosen to go to a high school program with extra music classes. As her bonus dad, a bassist and a hobby instrument builder I have decided that she needs a great instrument for the future. I am therefore currently building her a bass which "mechanically" is a Stingray clone. Having already introduced her to the greatness of the P-bass I kind of thought it was about time she leveled up. They have to learn early on which basses are the right ones you know! 😎 Thanks for a great show!
@bassimprovjams3772 2 ай бұрын
Dude she sounds totally blessed to have you in her life brother!! You Rock!!🤘 your not just a bonus dad you’re way beyond that!!
@Obeythebeard 2 ай бұрын
@@bassimprovjams3772 Thanks for those kind words! I just hope she really loves the bass when it's finished! Me and my wallet is fearing that if the bass plays like crap I'll have to help her get a (probably) very expensive replacement from some famous manufacturer. 😄
@KirkBryson 2 ай бұрын
Should talk about the last company (G&L) as the next company (L-2000 bass)
@SoleilRobbie 2 ай бұрын
Yes!
@ImJustStandingHere 2 ай бұрын
eh G&L's are stinkers
@jamieallan104 2 ай бұрын
Agreed I have a 1983 L2000 e series fretless and it sounds amazing and plays like a dream
@michael_caz_nyc 2 ай бұрын
You guys are great together = always interesting content. Bernard Edwards ( Chic ) & Paul Denman ( Sade ) = the Reason I purchased a Stingray . . . Love those 2 guys. oNe LovE from NYC
@daviddesmond2143 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for such an excellent article on the Stingray. I played Fenders for decades then got my first Stingray in 2007 and love them.
@richhillbass 2 ай бұрын
Just bought a cheap one , always wanted one and am very pleased w this 300 $ bass !! These modern inexpensive instruments are way better than my 1st cheap bass I bought when I was 12 in 1971 -Domino $100
@RavenGlenn 2 ай бұрын
Oh heck yeah. A cheap stingray punches WAY above it's weight class. And you can upgrade easily enough with better pickups.
@joelmajors7084 2 ай бұрын
I had zero interest in the Stingray or Fender anything when I first started playing. But one day I was in a shop with some friends looking at gear and one said, "just try one out! it won't hurt" Magic. Absolute magic. So much life and body to that instrument, it blew me away. I had to sell that one later, but I eventually replaced it. I have three basses now and two are stingrays. The 5HH Special is just a wonderland of available tones. I am extremely excited about the coming Music Man "Custom Experience" because I want to craft my dream fretless Ray5.
@bassimprovjams3772 2 ай бұрын
Dude it’s been long overdue! I hope I can get a custom order also, it would be really awesome if you can start to buy their stuff like a replacement pickup if you want a different color like I’d like the black pickup with the black pole pieces they have like in the darkray, they look so cool on the black basses
@hans-jrgenbjrnstad9180 2 ай бұрын
In 1982 I had finally saved up money for the bass I thought would take me to the next level. A beatiful red P Bass I had been wanting for a long time. Went to the shop, money in my pocket and there was no way I was walking away with enything else. But I did. The shop owner must have done a number on me pitching this new thing. To this day I have no idea how he convinced me but he was right. After more than 40 years I will never stop playing my Stingray. It still manage to surprise me. Love that thing.
@leoneddy1492 2 ай бұрын
I did exactly the same around 1980 I Was set on buying a Kramer, came out with a 76 Stingray (still got it)
@hans-jrgenbjrnstad9180 2 ай бұрын
@@leoneddy1492 Glad to hear it, brother.
@jakubmalyjurek 2 ай бұрын
You guys just refreshed my old time dream to get a Stingray. Just when I thought I have enough bases already😅
@devinebass 2 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@TenFalconsMusic 2 ай бұрын
In the right hands, it's everything. Crowned king from day one 👍
@ValuelessPond22 2 ай бұрын
I’m a huge stingray fan boy. I got my Stingray 5 HH in 2018, and literally nothing has beaten it for me. The roasted maple smelled friggin maple syrup for the first two months owning it!!! Are you kidding?! Thinner string spacing makes it so easy to play, and having the two humbuckers is so versatile! Now, can I get a Jazz bass tone? No. Can I get a P-bass tone? No. Can I get a sound that works from Christian rock, to funk, to punk, to metal, to reggae? You’re damn right I can! My stingray is so precious to me and my sound, that I don’t think it will ever leave me. I love the sound of other basses, but when I hear a bass line in my head it’s a stingray, and that’s so special to me.
@bassimprovjams3772 2 ай бұрын
Same man! I agree 110% with you I’m a total stingray fanboy too lmao I’ve had 11 of them I only have 3 at the moment I’ve had 3 HH 5’s and loved them all you got me wanting/ Needing another 5HH now
@abigailphilips825 Ай бұрын
My first was a Jazz bass, but I always wanted a Stingray because of Bernard and that was what most of my bass heroes played. So I took a risk and ordered a Starry Dark Ray without playing it. Am I sorry? Not a bit, I love it, it rocks to play and it puts a smile on my face every time.
@eheveronsmith 2 ай бұрын
Scott and Ian slapping in sync, living their best lives.
@mountainman0522 2 ай бұрын
As a kid of the 90’s it is hard not to love the punch of a stingray, between RHCP and RATM. The first RATM album captivated me to want to learn to play bass in general. When I saw Tim Commerford wielding a Stingray, I knew that’s what I wanted so I saved up for one and I’ve loved that thing ever since. I’ve bought and sold several basses over the years but never my stingray. it’s the sound of my youth encapsulated in a slab of wood with 4 strings and a humbucker!
@guillermodelnoche 2 ай бұрын
I cannot agree more! My Music Man crushed my back at gigs and only lasted one year in my arsenal. Tone for days but back woes to the toes.
@CaryHawkins 2 ай бұрын
The new design is significantly lighter - you might try them out. 2018 or 2019, I forget when they redesigned it.
@ericvassy2849 2 ай бұрын
Look for a used US Sterling! Lighter but still crazy versatile !
@bassimprovjams3772 2 ай бұрын
Like the other comment said, try the stingray special, they released in 2018 and that’s their standard version now, try the roasted maple neck, I have 2 specials one is roasted maple and one is ebony and the maple is one pound lighter , in the mid 8s nice and light and balanced perfectly brother
@STMRecords1 2 ай бұрын
Superb video. Very inspiring, love watching you two talk guitars, tone and players.
@joshlawless1022 21 күн бұрын
The ending where Scott goes on a rant about Joe Dart’s STINGRAY cracked me up 😂 so glad you included him! Joe is sooooo good.
@calolson9572 2 ай бұрын
I am SO wanting a fretless Stingray right now! (And got to confess - I secretly want a Bongo Bass - but that's another thing altogether...) 😂
@nate_4594 2 ай бұрын
I just got a fretless stingray 5. Best fretless I’ve ever played. It has such a nice “growl” to it. Great feel too, highly recommend. If you get one, try some Ernie Ball flat wounds on it. Makes it sound better/easier to glide.
@mjm0tube 2 ай бұрын
> And got to confess - I secretly want a Bongo Bass As a longtime Stingray fan, i love my fretless Bongos!
@DarthCiliatus 2 ай бұрын
I play a Sterling Ray4 HH as my main bass but I really wish I could get it as a fretless. I used to have a fretless jazz bass but I couldn't get a tone I liked from it, bridge pickup soloed was just too thin. A fretless stingray would be perfect since it gets that definition from having the pickup by the bridge but since it's a humbucker with an active eq it sounds thick enough to work as a bass.
@itsratso. 2 ай бұрын
got my dream bass, a H four string bongo in firemist gold a few years ago. i have always loved that NO bass on earth is more polarizing 🤣
@hyperplayability6290 2 ай бұрын
Bongos sound real nice but look uhh... A little... Unsavoury...
@fekkyb 2 ай бұрын
Guitarist. Needed a Bass. Bought a used banged up 5 String Stingray. 1x HB. After getting the bridge to work as it should. LOVE IT!
@disgruntledfaerie 2 ай бұрын
Excellent timing on this. I've been playing bass for 28 years, and my only bass that whole time had been a Fender Jazz with Bartolinis. But last month, I got the itch and picked up a Stingray and I'm in love. My Jazz is amazing, and will always be my number one. But I've always been envious of that huge Stingray sound.
@atmosfear-official6213 2 ай бұрын
Lovely episode, a perfect analysis of Leo Fender's evolution of the bass guitar. My first bass was a Fender Jazz. I first recorded with my Gibson RD Artist and then gravitated to the Stingray for my live work. I grew up a disciple of Louis Johnson and Bernard Edwards. Without doubt the Musicman Stingray is the most versatile and THE funkiest bass ever created. Thanks guys.
@andrewpappas9311 2 ай бұрын
I got a StingRay back in 2017 for my 18th birthday and I still love playing it alongside my Rickenbacker 4003S, I remember wanting one because of guys like Flea, John Deacon, Cliff Williams (AC/DC), Tom Hamilton, Tim Commerford, Rex Brown, Johnny Christ (Avenged Sevenfold) and early Mark Hoppus and I’ve used it on a bunch of my own stuff as well as with my band when I want to get that distinct sound. They just have that signature sound to them that’s just so damn good and their overall versatility is why it’s still one of the greatest rock basses for a reason, I’ll always love mine and don’t think I’ll ever sell it
@mikeschill1432 2 ай бұрын
Johnny Christ had that beat up chocolate brown one that he used to play on Scream live. Among others. But that color is the one Ernie Ball has to reissue.
@skimojun77 2 ай бұрын
How bout Pino Paladino playing Fretless Stingray on Paul Young's Everytime you go away? Bass on that tune is Killer!!!!
@Letshaveafewbeers 2 ай бұрын
No way was that a stingray and Pino. Mindblown!! 😂
@crocholiday 2 ай бұрын
I had no idea that was Pino but it makes perfect sense. The bass in that song is crazy.
@skimojun77 2 ай бұрын
@@Letshaveafewbeers I never was aware when I was a kid listening to this. It was few years ago my musical memory brought me back on this tune and was blown away that it was PINO!!!!!
@francocalvanochiesa909 2 ай бұрын
Being a classic taste bassist, I somehow always felt the calling of the stingray, never knew why, there’s just something to it. Now I understand. Thank you very much.
@EliasCasula 2 ай бұрын
my very first record in my youth was Rage Against The Machine self titled album, i fell in love with the bass tone on that masterpiece, so i started dreaming about owning a Stingray myself. Years and years later, after a vintage modified Squier jazz bass i actually stepped up and bought an American MM Stingray, and i got to say, it required some work to get used to that, the neck is super comfy, but the pick up placement requires some adjustmentwith the right hand position (left in my case :D). despite all that, I instantly fell in love with the feeling and the sound, and since then is the only bass I've played in live situations. I always play with the eq on board completely flat, I don't know why, but every time i touch bass or treble it seems too much in my ear... Maybe it's time to experiment with that, this video surely made me want to try new solution on my beloved Stingray :D
@MontyRoyal963 2 ай бұрын
Lol😊😊😊 when I was 14 I had the option to go with Ibinez, Squire, or OLP with a mock stingray. Went with the OLP. Eventually, got a '97 Honey Burst Sterling! Now, I've got a MM by Sterling (or something like that). Love the brand and the tone the brand produces.
@Mike-er2ih 2 ай бұрын
Bro OLP MM2 was my 1st bass ever (over 12y ago). Today I wish I have never sold it!
@MontyRoyal963 2 ай бұрын
@@Mike-er2ih dude I sold my sterling honey burst in college just to go see my girlfriend across the state and I was just being lazy and didn't want to work and go to school at the same time 😭😭😭
@Kaisermb1 2 ай бұрын
So fun. I got my first Stingray a couple months ago and it’s definitely a different animal. The mids control is worth the price of admission.
@mpdjr77 2 ай бұрын
It is SO MUCH FUN to watch you two play together and enjoy each other’s company. I love you Guys. Blessings 😊
@taznaga 2 ай бұрын
You guys going to hit on the G&L Basses 😊😊 which leads me to my stingray story and why I have a G&L SB-2. I started playing Double Bass about 20 years ago. I used to play An old Guild Pilot which I loved. I would try other basses including stingrays and just want my Guild. After I started paying upright I eventually had to pay rent with the guild and lost it in a pawn shop. About 6 months ago I spotted this beautiful fretless bass on the wall behind a guitar in a social media post from my Friends used instrument shop. It was a G&L L2000. I went to the store. I played it unplugged for a while to get a feel of the natural sound. Sounded great but I was worried about the redundancy with my NS Design EUB. I plugged it in but it didn’t work, we changed the battery, Cable, tested amp, but it was the wiring. The bass was not actually sale yet because they had not inspected it. At this point I was committed to going home with a Bass. I also decided to get a fretted bass because I have and acoustic upright and the EUB. I played every Bass in the store. I feel in love with the G&L SB-2. It is a PJ set up much like my Pilot was but passive. I quickly found a lot of my old sound too. A few days later I learned all about George and Leo, Leo selling fender Leo involvement with Music Man. Now after this video I want a go play an L2000 and a Stingray. I don’t want a fretless 4 string strap on anymore. After some listening they either sound farty or like an upright. I just love NS Design EUB tuned in 5ths (with Spirocore Red Mitchell 5ths Tuning Upright Bass Strings)
@CadeoMarcelo 2 ай бұрын
What about the G&L basses?
@kellerproof 2 ай бұрын
Best basses in the market, IMHO.
@facedowngaming 2 ай бұрын
That’ll come soon and it’ll crush everything!
@kellerproof 2 ай бұрын
@@facedowngaming 😂
@devinebass 2 ай бұрын
Great instruments, we need to look at them at some point...
@hannuhjelm2596 2 ай бұрын
Cliff Williams.
@jakebeaudrie 2 ай бұрын
I was hoping they'd mention him. Sigh.
@dubmoth76 2 ай бұрын
This...
@gabedestellano 2 ай бұрын
It just made me feel so much cooler about owning my stingray. Its going to get a lot more play than my other basses from now on. Cheers! Great bit of history and I'm sure you barely touched the surface of this truly iconic instrument! Rock on!!
@jacobesmagobes8664 16 күн бұрын
So, I started life as a bassist. Played in rock bands, jazz bands, and the orchestra. I had on old Sub 5 string that I used a LOT. It was so good. Times got tough after college and all of my basses were sold to support my young family. The only thing that survived was a lawsuit era acoustic guitar. So I ended up as a guitarist for 20 years until just a few weeks ago. A buddy of mine asked me to fill in n bass for his band and it has been amazing! Playing bass again feels like coming home. With that said, a sting ray is high on my list of basses I need! Especially a fretless. I still idolize Jaco, but I’ve never gotten along with the Jazz Bass
@williamhardy532 Ай бұрын
My friend showed up to bass lesson with a new Music Man Stingray. Blew me away completely! What a bass! Made me want to head to guitar store to get my own to add to my Fender Pro II Precision and Mustang. What a bass!
@DerekRosenfeld 2 ай бұрын
I bought a USA-mass SUB bass in 2003 and wound up putting it away after several years. Now I learn it was all the same electronics and very similar to the StingRay. I kind of miss that humbucker! I'm going to get er set up with some flats thanks to this video!
@elrafa782 2 ай бұрын
Bass actors studio ! Couldn’t live without you guys 😂 Thanks 🙏
@User-jk8wq 2 ай бұрын
If I’ve learned just one thing from this video it’s that P basses and Stingrays create a truly magical sound when slapped together
@HowieStephens 2 ай бұрын
Man I only kinda play bass on the side after guitar, but you guys just get me so hyped on bass! Last week, I went to my local music shop to order a set of SD Quarter-Pounders for my old neglected P-Bass copy, and they had this gorgous Yamaha TRBX305 on sale for $375... needless to say I bought it two days later. Idk how this relates to the Stingray though.. oh yeah humbuckers with massive pole pieces and active EQ! It's a lot of fun having such a versatile instrument and I appreciate Ian's great explanations to get different tones.
@Monsterdrumma Ай бұрын
As a drummer my ears always completely come alive when I hear someone playing a stingray and I can pick them out before even entering the venue. I love their fat deep yet super tight punchy sound, you feel them in the crowd!
@anthonycaraffa2422 2 ай бұрын
Great story guys. The Stingray is its own animal all together and is further proof of what a genius Leo Fender was at creating instruments that continued to influence music on a grand scale. I often wonder what music would have been like without Leo Fender’s innovation.
@germarhoffmeister2752 2 ай бұрын
Mr. Leo "Burns" Fender. Love him, because he works only at night to stay apart from his creditors.
@quezquez3084 2 ай бұрын
I think you missed Paul Denman, from Sade. He made a huge impact on my preference for the Stingray. Great video. I love watching you, guys. Thanks!
@corkandi 2 ай бұрын
I've had the mm stingray 4 for a few years now and I love it. It sounds great at home, jamming in the studio or playing live. I've changed the strings once, it rarely goes out of tune, the build is solid and you can feel the quality. It looks great (mint green with a white scratch plate), and didn't break the bank!
@HeyDropthat 2 ай бұрын
you guys just make me so happy such positivity and curiosity
@SoleilRobbie 2 ай бұрын
I definitely wouldn’t mind having one again. I had a 1978 that I lost - loved it. Great job going over the history and demoing! You guys are amazing. 🤘🏽🔥🥰💕
@lorenharris2965 Ай бұрын
Great info guys!
@franknelson791 2 ай бұрын
So glad you enjoyed playing my Ray Classic! It's now back with me after I came to my senses and got it back from Andy's.
@ashcustomworks 2 ай бұрын
How do I feel? Validated! I've always liked the way a Stingray is put together, even if the aesthetics are not my style, so I've built my own basses as sort of a "Stingray in a tuxedo". The validation comes through discovering just how many of my favourite bass tones were recorded on Stingrays. The one standout example you didn't mention is Paul Denman with Sade. Magnificent!
@alvarorenedocabeza4233 2 ай бұрын
I believe that's the feeling! 😂 My first bass was (IS!) a stingray. The first time I played it at the music store I thought "If I don't get it now I'm gonna spend my life looking for this sound". It was the voice of God. 20 or so years later, it still is that bass that you pack when you're called for a substitution and don't know really where you go. Doesn't matter, the stingray's gonna do the job. Deep as P, defined as J, same amount of character as both... Love it ❤
@iambazii 2 ай бұрын
I absolutely love the Stingray. I've had a 5-string since 05 and it is still an absolute workhorse (even though I've favourited my Squires in the last few years). The Stingray solidfied my love for a big, warm and powerful bass tones. I've used in multiple musical settings over the years, and it's never failed me. I don't think I'll ever wanna get rid of it.
@davidlopez-white3185 2 ай бұрын
Thanks Scott and Ian and SBL Team! I got a MTD Kingston Artist series last year, and Stingrays had never been on my radar (more Jazz Bass and Lakland). I love my MTD, now I know it's based on the Stingray and appreciate all of the history and artist profiles you highlight here, as well as investigating and demo'ing tone variations. A versatile instrument indeed :)
@darrellhughes3597 2 ай бұрын
Great piece gents! Really enjoyed the history and featured musicians. I own both a 70's MM and several P basses. Leo was just a genius
@dymanite94 Ай бұрын
Wonderful video full of interesting information about this bass, especially the history and those who have used it in their music! I was looking for an all-round bass, and I have found it. 10/10 great job guys!
@devinebass Ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@kyleetie5608 2 ай бұрын
Great post guys!!! 👌🏼 Stingrays caught my eyes & ears long ago too.... sooooo Leo! ❤️
@colecammarata8729 2 ай бұрын
Just started playing bass a little over a year and a half ago. Fell in love with it before I started playing because of the stingray. I always thought it was such a cool looking thing. It is my first bass and I do not plan on ever parting with it. It has been with me through my first gigs and every practice session. One of my most prized possessions. Thing kicks ass. Thanks for the appreciation of this incredible instrument.
@davidrothstein8324 2 ай бұрын
Lifelong musician. Teaching myself bass for 3 yrs. Got a Stingray and I love it!!! It’s super versatile and the tone is music to my ears. I play a lot of TOOL and Rage on it and I can dial in the tone easily bc of the stingray. Just a great bass all around.
@ziccuj Ай бұрын
I'm not even a bass player, but I enjoyed this video so much! Thanks guys for a very interesting conversation and great examples! All the best from Finland!
@erichnunya 2 ай бұрын
My first leap to a five string bass was in 2018 with a Stingray Special 5 HH. Every position of the five way switch give a different tone. It plays great and can literally do about anything I need it to. It's a wonderful Bass.
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