Devon & Lindsey (Ned & Moze) talk about their real life break up & Lindsey's journey to sobriety

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Growing Up with Devon Werkheiser

Growing Up with Devon Werkheiser

Жыл бұрын

Devon Werkheiser (Ned Bigby) and Lindsey Shaw (Moze) talk about what happened to their real life relationship after the show ended, their life experiences after the break up, and Lindsey's journey toward sobriety.
Lindsey gets vulnerable about her struggle with mental health, her BPD diagnosis, and how her friendship with Devon throughout the years has helped her.
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@growingupwithdevonpod
@growingupwithdevonpod Жыл бұрын
What was your first love like?
@itslightningyo3714
@itslightningyo3714 Жыл бұрын
Growing up, I had always heard that opposites attract, and I took that personally lol first love was wild and rambunctious, I was shy and reserved. This pairing resulted in a few years of dating, breaking up, dating, etc. Ultimately, I was putting myself through a lot of distress by trying to be 'compatible' and in the end we went our separate ways and haven't spoken since. Sadly, she fell down a rougher path full of infidelity and drug use, but I've always wished her the best with no more hard feelings towards what happened between us.
@nathanmcclain8913
@nathanmcclain8913 Жыл бұрын
Ended in heartache. He cheated on me. But I'm now with a wonderful man. 7 years this October.
@andrwows
@andrwows Жыл бұрын
My first love was my best friend too. After a year & fresh of college grad we didn’t really know what we want out of the relationship anymore as our careers were getting in the way and required time and distance away from another.
@rayrunn
@rayrunn Жыл бұрын
What I first thought was love,was extremely toxic and dangerous. He was extremely abusive for 5 years. My real first love-my best friend I made when I was 12. He’s been there for me through it all. We’ve been best friends for 15 years and together officially for the last 6💛
@growingupwithdevonpod
@growingupwithdevonpod Жыл бұрын
@@nathanmcclain8913 so glad you found someone amazing in the end
@mione134
@mione134 Жыл бұрын
I love how real this conversation this was. You can still feel the chemistry. The love. You can tell there is just SO much history there. I'm glad Linds is sober and doing well. And I'm glad you were so open about your struggles. It going to help so many people. Truly. So thank you for your honesty. I'm happy you both are in a good place now. I still feel the love there. And that's just a beautiful thing.
@Montrarious
@Montrarious Жыл бұрын
I agree with this so much, wanted to give a random hug and say Ive been there and damn is it hard. Patience is a problematic S.OB. sometimes but when it's over, you really feel free...
@GLEEK12345678910
@GLEEK12345678910 Жыл бұрын
@Trinity M having chemistry doesn’t have to mean romantic chemistry. There’s friendship chemistry as well. And there can be lots of love in friendships. You don’t have to be in love to have love for someone.
@mione134
@mione134 Жыл бұрын
@@GLEEK12345678910 Exactly! That's what I was saying.
@love7love
@love7love 11 ай бұрын
⁠​⁠@@Givebackthescarfyeah for Gleek… exactly… it seems like you are triggered by their chemistry or the concept of chemistry or something…
@stevensoto4803
@stevensoto4803 11 ай бұрын
@@Givebackthescarfwho the fuck pissed in your Cheerios
@jenniferworley9888
@jenniferworley9888 Жыл бұрын
Devon is such a compassionate listener
@maggiew689
@maggiew689 Жыл бұрын
@Bigheartoneggshells I think this person was trying to give some praise to Devon for being a good listener on such a hard topic. It’s hard to listen and be compassionate to a struggle you’ve never experienced. Lindsey is also an amazing listener but people are allowed to compliment just Devon. Just like the rest of the comments are mostly just complimenting Lindsey for her strength. You don’t need to make everything negative.
@Jim_The_Fish
@Jim_The_Fish Жыл бұрын
@Bigheartoneggshells I hate it too when dads say they have to “babysit” their kids. Like no, that’s just parenting. But this isn’t that. Devon has a lot of non-toxic masculinity that you can see a lot of in his podcast. Obviously society should just make that the baseline norm anyway, but unfortunately we live in the real world. This isn’t something to shit on. If more people were like the real life actors in the Ned’s trio, the world would be such a better place.
@thomsboys77
@thomsboys77 3 ай бұрын
This aged poorly
@JGarrison51285
@JGarrison51285 Жыл бұрын
They were asked would they get back together, and Lindsey emphatically said yes without a hint of hesitation. So I'm secretly hoping that it happens down the road
@HoustonSongz
@HoustonSongz 11 ай бұрын
Is there a link to that video?
@JGarrison51285
@JGarrison51285 10 ай бұрын
@@HoustonSongz kzfaq.info/get/bejne/lbKjjcxqlbqxhWg.html
@sounds0fmeows
@sounds0fmeows 10 ай бұрын
they have such good chemistry together. honestly I wouldn’t want to see you them with anybody else but each other
@cristhian4151
@cristhian4151 9 ай бұрын
@@HoustonSongz kzfaq.info/get/bejne/lbKjjcxqlbqxhWg.html&ab_channel=NickRewind 13:20
@javiercastro661
@javiercastro661 8 ай бұрын
​@@HoustonSongzkzfaq.info/get/bejne/lbKjjcxqlbqxhWg.htmlsi=Mtj-47EJnOE4qc3t Or NickRewind Ned Moze 😅
@Jikirrei
@Jikirrei Жыл бұрын
It's surreal listening to people you watched as a kid and loved for being goofy and silly have these deeper talks. Been loving the podcast and content
@Jah_LEASE_yah
@Jah_LEASE_yah Жыл бұрын
I never knew they actually dated in real life. It's kind of adorable and awesome that they are still friends and were able to continue being in each other's lives after breaking up.
@andrwows
@andrwows Жыл бұрын
I like how transparent and unfiltered all this really is. You two being so open and forward during the whole conversation is showing heaps of maturity
@seanieboi1234
@seanieboi1234 Жыл бұрын
It's rare to see exes still be friends. It was hard for me to deal with my breakup, hoping to still be friends with my ex. But she didn't want that, and I had to accept that. So, seeing you two loving each other while still being great friends seemed healthy and authentic. I hope you two continue on the path that makes yall happy 😊
@atatur123
@atatur123 Жыл бұрын
I remember Lindsey mentioning on the Ned's podcast that they weren't in touch for 10 years. Have faith! Time heals wounds.
@rejectionistmanifesto8836
@rejectionistmanifesto8836 10 ай бұрын
You should avoid your ex as they are an ex
@Zeegoner
@Zeegoner 9 ай бұрын
Lol
@PRATERVXEX
@PRATERVXEX 7 ай бұрын
I mean, i’d say it’s easier to forgive when you’re making money together on a podcast.
@tobi1314
@tobi1314 Жыл бұрын
Man, I had a huuuuuge crush on Lindsey when I was a kid; Now, as an adult, I think I still have a huuuuuge crush on Lindsey still. Watch her talk about going through rehab and stuff feels close to heart, since I also went through similar stuff in my mid twenties. There's always a light at the end of the tunnel!
@darda777
@darda777 Жыл бұрын
I absolutely love Lindsey and how well she is doing now. The connection between these two even throughout the years is beautiful. I am an addict in recovery, and listening to Lindsey tell her story gives me hope.
@mattmichel451
@mattmichel451 Жыл бұрын
Dude I would watch Ned's every. Single. Day. When I would come home from school. You guys were such a huge part of my childhood. So glad to see yall 3 are doing great
@Justlov4
@Justlov4 Жыл бұрын
I watched the full talk between you and Lindsey but this talk was beautiful. It's beautiful that Lindsey is present now and in a much better place. It's beautiful that even with everything going on you both still made space for each other even though the hurt was raw. It's beautiful seeing you both back together and still sharing so much love which I feel like is not something everyone has. Not all exes and stay in each others lives and have it be healthy. But you guys being friends first and growing up together made the difference. I truly love you both and thank you for not only being here for me as a child but as an adult now. Knowing that these friends that I've only ever known through tv have now translated to real people and have gone through struggles that I've gone though. Even now you both are giving me insight and advice as a grown up.
@jpadmore9268
@jpadmore9268 Жыл бұрын
Need you two back together
@leia5720
@leia5720 Жыл бұрын
I saw the full ep a day ago & just saw today’s ep of the Ned pod, and it reinforced the thought that she’s the Holly Flax to his Michael Scott. Two little weirdos with zany energy who just get each other. Friendship truly is the best & most solid foundation there is for more. IF there’s potential, hope he figures it out.
@nat2501
@nat2501 Жыл бұрын
I watched the full ep of this the other day, and it was such an interesting conversation. You know when you’re having a deep talk with someone, and you get that rush of like “finally! im actually talking to someone who gets this!” I can * feel * that energy radiating from this episode. So refreshing to hear you both being so honest about your experience- and very thankful for Lindsey opening up like that.
@kryssppyy
@kryssppyy Жыл бұрын
😭 this is everything. The love between them is so special.
@ClairesUniverse
@ClairesUniverse Жыл бұрын
Very refreshing to hear Lindsey talk about her BPD as I was diagnosed with it last year. The abandonment is so real and any single time we are abandoned we believe everyone will eventually leave us. This hit so hard. Thank you, Lindsey
@cristian021492
@cristian021492 Жыл бұрын
BPD patient here too, exactly experienced the same thing with abandonment. It’s a struggle, but thankfully I am feeling much better and developing more meaningful relationships 😊
@purplemacgotti2423
@purplemacgotti2423 11 ай бұрын
Thank you all for being open and not worrying about what the world thinks. So proud of you guys
@chriswhite2122
@chriswhite2122 Жыл бұрын
I'm just so glad that out of all of the child actors that I grew up watching, that these three came out on the other side as well as they have. Things very well could have ended sadly. Such a big part of my childhood. I'm glad you guys are okay.
@kevinwilliams8806
@kevinwilliams8806 Жыл бұрын
The fact I grew up watching these two legends and I never knew they dated irl. Lindsay I’m so happy to see you sober.😊
@rayrunn
@rayrunn Жыл бұрын
Already 2:39 I’m feeling so seen. Thank you for opening your hearts to us 💛 Bpd is something i felt I was avoiding being labeled as my whole life,when really it made the most sense and has brought some of the deepest closure / understanding to it all
@xxanabananaxx
@xxanabananaxx 10 ай бұрын
Is BPD bipolar disorder or borderline personality disorder?
@yousirrapudgypenguin5698
@yousirrapudgypenguin5698 7 ай бұрын
​@@xxanabananaxxborderline
@Mischief716
@Mischief716 Жыл бұрын
I'm LOVING this content. It's so cool to see the tv stars that are my age grow up and become adults and be so relatable. Keep it going!!!!
@nojidnilrehtus9206
@nojidnilrehtus9206 Жыл бұрын
Watching this I cannot help but to smile, seeing the growth, mutual respect and raw honesty...I'm very impressed. Please some way somehow produce another tv series! Until them I'm just happy to have the podcast as long as you guys are doing it.
@Taylor.reneerowe
@Taylor.reneerowe Жыл бұрын
I love that you guys can sit in a room together and talk about this intimate, emotional time of your lives, let alone allowing all of us in to see it! Thank you, as someone who lived and breathed Ned’s declassified, this made me feel like a child again in a way. Nostalgic and beautiful, I love that we all aged together and that you guys can be real and raw and talk about things that we can all relate to. 🤍
@austinrich117
@austinrich117 Жыл бұрын
I really needed to see this. Going through life after a 4 year relationship with living together it’s very tough to navigate alone. The constant worry and sadness of just feeling like no one is there. This truly shows there is hope.
@TherapyGel
@TherapyGel Жыл бұрын
The way you guys are very open with your struggles and your history is really insightful. Even if it just seems like having a conversation for y'all, I hope y'all can take pride in the fact that having these sort of discussions on a public stage can help a lot of people through their own journeys and struggles. Thank you guys for still creating after all these years. It was a pleasure to watch you guys on Declassified, and it's likewise today. Happy to see you guys as well-adjusted, healthy adults with many fond memories of your time in the spotlight. Rare for child actors.
@GinaKrause-kk1cc
@GinaKrause-kk1cc 11 ай бұрын
This was fantastic! I love hearing Lindsay talk about all the things she's realized about herself in her sobriety journey!❤
@naylengonzalez4764
@naylengonzalez4764 Жыл бұрын
Y’all were my childhood! Listen to the Ned’s podcast every week and even though life’s been crazy busy, y’all keep me feeling nostalgic and so happy. Thank you so much for what you’re doing!! 🤗❤️
@AidenAlias
@AidenAlias Жыл бұрын
I myself have been diagnosed with BPD as well and it's kinda surreal having two people I grew up watching talk so openly about it and stuff like this. You guys are great and Ned's really helped me through so troubling stuff as kid but watching/rewatching it always helped me growing up. Nothing but love
@ybblue2732
@ybblue2732 10 ай бұрын
I just stumbled upon this and Devon, it is amazing seeing you guys all grown up. Ned’s declassified was my childhood and it is beautiful to see us all grown up now. God bless!
@faysholisticways2478
@faysholisticways2478 Жыл бұрын
This, was a beautiful conversation.
@gusparkwood4890
@gusparkwood4890 Жыл бұрын
Seeing Real Friendship like This is Just Awesome. Happy for Both of Them. Just Awesome
@bellacontreras8614
@bellacontreras8614 Жыл бұрын
Ly guys so much! Loving the podcast too! Sending Lind a big hug rn❤ i'm glad she's better because your show made my childhood so much better!
@hellojilly
@hellojilly Жыл бұрын
I can’t get enough of you two!!!! 😭❤️
@gracep1370
@gracep1370 Жыл бұрын
Everything Lindsey said after 8:05 about forgiveness really hits home. It’s 2am and I immediately turned on the lights on my nightstand to write down everything she said. So beautifully put. It’s so apparent how much growth, self-reflection, and self-discovery she went through in recovery. I wish both Devon and Lindsey so much joy and success ♥️
@danielchavez4403
@danielchavez4403 9 ай бұрын
They truly have a beautiful relationship. Even if they're just friends or together, they will always be Ned and Moze.
@vincentbyrd5350
@vincentbyrd5350 Жыл бұрын
My childhood is alive and well at almost 30. Love seeing my childhood faves making a comeback
@vt_hikaru
@vt_hikaru Жыл бұрын
This is so raw and real
@mori3340
@mori3340 Жыл бұрын
I love you guys so much and I'm so proud of you Lindsey. You've done so amazing and you're such a sweet person. BPD is SO difficult, especially with a first love that falls out. It is so wonderful you guys still stayed close and still talked, to being best friends even right now. You guys are soul-buddies and I'm so happy you have each other. Especially through it all
@emmakuru8546
@emmakuru8546 Жыл бұрын
This video spoke to me, especially when you started talking about character defects and avoiding re-victimizing yourself in the retelling. Practical life and recovery things. Thanks 🙌
@stephengiordano6959
@stephengiordano6959 Жыл бұрын
The love and friendship of them is everything that they share is amazing
@DeadSezSo
@DeadSezSo Жыл бұрын
As a 30 year old recovering addict after over a decade of drug and alcohol abuse, what lindsey said about calling devon because she felt like he still could see her for who she was beyond the addiction is so powerful. I'm fortunate to have had a female best friend of my own that never gave up on me and that still believed in the best parts of me even at a time when the drugs and alcohol suppressed them. Being able to talk to her every once in awhile gave me a break from the shame and guilt that so constantly bubbled under the surface and that which I could only numb out with more drugs. These moments were truly instrumental in my sobriety because they were really all I had left to remind me that I was more than my addiction and mental illness. So glad to hear lindsey is doing well, one day at a time!
@love7love
@love7love 11 ай бұрын
It’s kind of mind blowing to me to learn how some people just let go of control to such levels…. I don’t mean to be offensive in any way, but just offering an observation… since I have an ex that I’m pretty sure went towards some deep dark path after he broke up with me and hooked up with a random woman apparently he accidentally knocked up…. And I really hope none of that led him to do drugs again, since he used to do some hardcore drugs in the past… so reading all these comments and listening to Lindsey is very enlightening about what could my ex may have gone/ been going through since our traumatic break up… and again… its just sooo mind blowing to me how some people seem to have the ability to let themselves go to such levels, and still make it out okay… like I could never… i could never let go of control of my life or myself to the point of having someone else outside of me, be my “voice of reason” or who keeps me tethered to my truth/ the truth of who I am… that I would need to call them to remember who I am…? Dang… that feels scary to me… to let go to that level… so while being this way is probably something not to be proud of, you people are also really brave and courageous in some other way, and actually have to have a lot of faith in a way, to let go of yourselves to such levels and still recover and bring yourselves back to normalcy… damn.. that feels like some really hardcore stuff… you people are strong.
@love7love
@love7love 11 ай бұрын
It’s kind of mind blowing to me to learn how some people just let go of control to such levels…. I don’t mean to be offensive in any way, but just offering an observation… since I have an ex that I’m pretty sure went towards some deep dark path after he broke up with me and hooked up with a random woman apparently he accidentally knocked up…. And I really hope none of that led him to do drugs again, since he used to do some hardcore drugs in the past… so reading all these comments and listening to Lindsey is very enlightening about what could my ex may have gone/ been going through since our traumatic break up… and again… its just sooo mind blowing to me how some people seem to have the ability to let themselves go to such levels, and still make it out okay… like I could never… i could never let go of control of my life or myself to the point of having someone else outside of me, be my “voice of reason” or who keeps me tethered to my truth/ the truth of who I am… that I would need to call them to remember who I am…? Dang… that feels scary to me… to let go to that level… so while being this way is probably something not to be proud of, you people are also really brave and courageous in some other way, and actually have to have a lot of faith in a way, to let go of yourselves to such levels and still recover and bring yourselves back to normalcy… damn.. that feels like some really hardcore stuff… you people are strong.
@love7love
@love7love 11 ай бұрын
And perhaps I can understand it because I may have experienced this to some extent… or at certain specific brief moments, but I have never lost myself or have let myself go to such deep levels for that long… like 10 years or something like that… it’s crazy…
@DeadSezSo
@DeadSezSo 11 ай бұрын
@@love7love but the thing is the initial drug use is actually about *taking* control, not losing it. Your trauma, relationships, physical pain and/or mental illnesses are all out of your control but when you take this drug or drink, it numbs the pain out and you know it's going to make you feel better until it wears off. The drug use is the one thing you actually can control in life until it's just too late and youre a full blown addict. By then, you've added another condition to your list of issues and if you aren't feeding it every single day, it makes everything else ten times worse and that's why so many addicts that want to stop just don't. The deep-rooted pain that led to them using drugs for comfort in the first place is eventually made even worse by the addiction. So it's just a vicious cycle. Personally, I had multiple surgeries in my teenage years to repair my legs and feet so at 13 years old I was prescribed opiates. This was at the height of the opioid epidemic before they stopped giving them out to any and everybody. I've also been diagnosed with bipolar disorder, ptsd and a couple of different sleep disorders. My mother died when I was very young and my father was an alcoholic and pretty absent despite being the sole provider for me and my siblings growing up. I was an extremely lonely kid and I had no control over almost anything but I knew if I take a couple of these pills, it'll numb all of that out and even get me to come out of my shell to go out and hang out with people. Its that last thing that is the only thing I miss about my drug use. I can deal with all of the issues I have emotional and physical but I just have no energy for things like socializing these days. I'm withdrawn and pretty isolated from all but my best friend and sister for the most part. I know alot of my friends and family talk about me and speculate alot about whether or not I'm back on drugs like you are doing about your ex but I can only tell you that at the end of the day, only an addict knows what's going on with them. It took my father dying at 54 years old for me to realize I was heading to an early grave myself if I didn't turn myself around. I'm not religious and have never been but it always takes some sort of "divine" intervention for a long term addict to get clean. I hope your ex is maintaining his sobriety and if not then hopefully he can turn it around soon because I would wish addiction and it's co-ocurring health issues on anyone, not even my own abusive ex. Hope this helps you understand addicts and addiction better!
@shannonfilialunae1359
@shannonfilialunae1359 Жыл бұрын
my middle school heart 🥹🥹🥹 damn the feels. I definitely need to watch all this podcast now wasn’t expecting it to get deep.
@TheRevelationTheRevolution
@TheRevelationTheRevolution 10 ай бұрын
Lindsey you’re so wise
@anscomedy
@anscomedy Жыл бұрын
There is nothing that feels better than saying i feel good after going through a dark time i loved the characters in the show its cool to see yall are still friends and doing well
@paolaramirez5901
@paolaramirez5901 Жыл бұрын
I really loved this conversation. I was not aware that Linds had these issues I feel so sorry for her. I started to tear up when she was doing so. I’m glad she is doing much much better now. They are incredibly mature to have this conversation really, not even in my best dreams I would do this with my Ex’s.
@lucilaspannaus4190
@lucilaspannaus4190 Жыл бұрын
Insanely relate to this. Considering I'm super close with an ex with whom I healed a lot of my abandonment issues. It's a an ongoing journey. Definitely hits right with what I'm going through. That primal abandonment wound is strong, deep and painful. I love the raw honesty bc I know exactly how it feels and how wonderful it is coming back around.
@KaylaLenee
@KaylaLenee Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for opening up Lindsey. I like what you said about holding yourself accountable but not adding anymore shame. It is self indulgent. Thank you for helping me look at it that way
@ohbeastin5010
@ohbeastin5010 Жыл бұрын
This needs more views !!!
@ricardofortuna5404
@ricardofortuna5404 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing your story Lindsey. You inspire a lot of people in recovery, post recovery. Myself included ❤
@Miles-ud6rh
@Miles-ud6rh Жыл бұрын
I just cried like a baby. than you for sharing
@JoannyDuran
@JoannyDuran 11 ай бұрын
Wow your convos are so deep and real. I love both of your vibes 🦋
@laurafortuna5417
@laurafortuna5417 Жыл бұрын
Lindsey has learned SO much through self- recovery and discovery. Unlearning unhealthy habits. It’s amazing to see the growth. Girl, I’m learning how to continuously pay myself on the back everyday for the small wins in life. That’s just as important. We keep evolving and growing. That’s all that matters 💪🏼❤️
@FatherHussain
@FatherHussain Жыл бұрын
Alcohol is still such a constant problem I have in life, I'm very glad you were able to battle it
@117Captain
@117Captain Жыл бұрын
This is such a great conversation to hear Thank you for sharing it with us Real adult survival guide stuff
@AlkoWasAlreadyTaken
@AlkoWasAlreadyTaken 10 ай бұрын
As someone who has BPD, everything she is describing is 100% on point. I'm glad she is recovering. I am just beginning to.
@blah-zs5vw
@blah-zs5vw Жыл бұрын
This channel is so fire 🔥 shout out to you devon and lindsey
@Ms.Street
@Ms.Street Жыл бұрын
I love your podcast. I look forward to your content so much. Love you guys. Nothing but love.
@marinazaiats
@marinazaiats 7 ай бұрын
yas we love you guys thank you for being so real
@antoniogino6512
@antoniogino6512 Жыл бұрын
We LOVE YOU GUYS
@elcysus
@elcysus 11 ай бұрын
great comment lewis! thank for being so heardwarming guys!
@HavenBurrell
@HavenBurrell Жыл бұрын
I didn't even know they were dating in real life. Glad they both grew up and are better themselves.
@LuxuFoo
@LuxuFoo Жыл бұрын
Wasn't expecting to hear program talk in this video to be honest but glad I did. Keep trudging that road Linds. ❤️🤙
@blueberryara28
@blueberryara28 Жыл бұрын
i just remembered how when asked “would you get back together” they both immediately said yes
@vrfan7295
@vrfan7295 Жыл бұрын
Omg when was this
@blueberryara28
@blueberryara28 Жыл бұрын
@@vrfan7295 nick interview
@e.producer1082
@e.producer1082 Жыл бұрын
My nosey ass is still wondering exactly why is it and what problem was what broke them up. I don’t think it was because they fell out of love just based off how they both actually grieved over it.
@KitCat898
@KitCat898 Жыл бұрын
I want to hear this!!! I just saw a random reel about this and I have to listen to this podcast!!!!
@growingupwithdevonpod
@growingupwithdevonpod Жыл бұрын
Do itttt
@numberoneappgames
@numberoneappgames 10 ай бұрын
This is great, keep up the good work!
@CreativeWorld33333
@CreativeWorld33333 Жыл бұрын
I Can Relate To Lindsey, Spirituality, Heal And Raising Your Vibe Back Up From Low Paths. And Her Story Reminds Me Of An Ex Of Mine Story. Definitely Can Help Others. Healing Is Powerful Because Your Able To Openly Share & Speak About What You Went Thru With Wisdom
@Mxi.
@Mxi. Жыл бұрын
You guys still make a great couple. The history and chemistry is there.
@19choil
@19choil Жыл бұрын
bro the way she talks about that feeling of rejection with BPD where it like doesn’t even matter hits home. That’s actually so interesting and scary for myself holy moly
@jevinday
@jevinday Жыл бұрын
That's good that Lindsey has some insight into her BPD. It is a response to childhood trauma, usually abandonment.
@4n820
@4n820 Жыл бұрын
You guys were my childhood❤
@classical421
@classical421 10 ай бұрын
I loved this so much!
@tangomango2459
@tangomango2459 Жыл бұрын
My little sister and I loved watching you guys on Ned’s Declassified in the early-mid 2000’s. I’m really happy to see you guys again and know that everything is going well ☺️
@Nowhatsgoingon11222
@Nowhatsgoingon11222 10 ай бұрын
First break ups are scary though, doesn’t the age. Age is a number, pain is the real thing there
@kevinsavo718
@kevinsavo718 Жыл бұрын
Wow, they are down to earth! I love that show!
@MirandaPierce-dj8lv
@MirandaPierce-dj8lv 6 ай бұрын
Awe the way she’s trying not to cry when she’s talking about it
@_frijolito_
@_frijolito_ Жыл бұрын
I do my best to understand this cause I don't speak english so it was hard but im so glad that I understand a lot of things. Thanks for this, I really needed it and I love saw both togheter again 💗 Les mando muchos abrazos y se van por la sombrita🌷
@twistedninjareviews3100
@twistedninjareviews3100 10 ай бұрын
Neds really changed peoples life, I love watching these guys
@pendafen7405
@pendafen7405 Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for sharing, showing up and being profoundly honest and real, you two. Your romance and how it ended is painfully relatable to me.. (tl;dr to follow, sorry it's a lot of context!) Like Lindsey when I was in my late teens I was first really into a guy (boy, at the time), who was a couple years younger than me (and now that I think about it, weirdly had a similar personality to Devon). Getting together was a no-go and I never went there for a few complex reasons besides the age-gap/AOC issue, e.g. he also got really sick and suicidal around the time I was graduating and going through a bereavement (so he's mentally bonded to other trauma in my life). Yet even though we did not have any real intimacy or an official bond of any sort, still it was so painful for me to detach from those unrequited feelings so I could leave him in the past, and those intense stuck feelings toward him sent me into a long, static, self-sabotaging CPTSD/depression. To this day I don't think he has a clue about how deeply I felt about him and how much he unwittingly hurt me. One day I'd jump at the chance to sit down and release the pain with him like Lindsey did here with Devon, but I know that's very unlikely to happen since this guy and me never had a relationship in the same way, we aren't on speaking terms anymore and haven't been for years, and also he isn't as half so accepting or forgiving or communicative as Devon seems to be. Obviously I don't love him or want him anymore, and I'm more than 50% over what happened to me/us via letting go of the narrative and stopping self-loathing like Lindsey wisely says, but the brutal honest truth is that I still have threads of this annoying lingering attachment to him on some cosmic level that I haven't managed to sever no matter what I do or don't do. Wish I could have proper final closure, with or without him. I want to move on totally, but clearly I'm not 100% ready.
@OGPimpin
@OGPimpin Жыл бұрын
I'm glad she's back on her feet and doing well in life. Being in the gutter is no joke man. Sometimes you gotta go through the grit to grow though.
@BiGSHark303
@BiGSHark303 Жыл бұрын
Dude yes I love this!
@caasi01
@caasi01 Жыл бұрын
Feels like a “survival guide “ Thank you
@tsubacita960
@tsubacita960 Жыл бұрын
Im so glad that they can be friends
@fredosland1931
@fredosland1931 Жыл бұрын
Need more!!
@hunterharmon4277
@hunterharmon4277 Жыл бұрын
So glad I fell into Lindsey and Devon’s instagrams a few years ago and have seen this friendship from behind the scenes. They’re some amazing people
@rafaelorona1395
@rafaelorona1395 10 ай бұрын
I did what Lindsey did, I responded to my first breakup horribly and damaged that whole relationship. And for me it took a long time to learn the lessons from that first love, I don't like to say that I wouldn't change a thing, I would change many things from that journey, but I appreciate and love the person I became after that. I do not have a friendship with my ex, but I do have him on social media and thankfully we are both in great places in our lives.
@AtomHeartFather2
@AtomHeartFather2 Жыл бұрын
Lindsey is such a people pleaser ❤
@FatalPhenom
@FatalPhenom Жыл бұрын
Celebrities are real people, sure but hearing about the people you watched on TV as a kid were growing through the same struggles with growing up as we were is kinda comforting. I know that's obvious but it's different when you hear them being so candid about it. You can tell there's still love there. Maybe in a different way than being together romantically but a deeply caring way nonetheless. Not everyone can do it but it's great to still have a close friendship after a breakup. Glad you're back and showing us how it's done Ned (Devon)
@ModernMessiah
@ModernMessiah Жыл бұрын
He still have a lot of love for her. I still ship them. Sometimes it's the right person but the wrong time.
@AlwaysCewing
@AlwaysCewing 6 ай бұрын
You two are amazing
@jevinday
@jevinday Жыл бұрын
I didn't know they were that close. I also didn't know about this podcast until like yesterday. They still kind of give each other that "fuck me" look all the time hahahahaha
@hahaishereman
@hahaishereman Жыл бұрын
Ooof my therapist told me recently that she thinks I have BPD so that particularly hits hard. Knowing a relationship isn’t right but still not being able to let go because of attachment issues is such a confusing place to be at
@TheTyranex
@TheTyranex Жыл бұрын
This cast just seens to have built itself into solid adults. Great job
@noellecatherine1219
@noellecatherine1219 7 ай бұрын
I fw Lindsey. I love her bc she just doesn't gaf and she's so laid back. I feel like we would get along if we ever met in real life! I'm extremely laid back and nonjudgmental also. I hope she continues to be herself and not let anyone's negative remarks effect her. Her personality is great the way it is fr!! ❤😊
@SamEveX3
@SamEveX3 Жыл бұрын
Sooo good 🙌
@sanban6766
@sanban6766 Жыл бұрын
You're so funny and feel so real Devon
@thesharingonwarrior
@thesharingonwarrior Жыл бұрын
I barley started listening to this groups podcast barley the other day after so many ads of it and Ive learned so much about these three its crazy. I honestly woulda never guessed that devon and Lindsey woulda gotten together in real life. I think me ten years ago or so woulda just been jealous hated on Devon lol but hearing how makes complete sense. I had/still have a crush on Lindsey and hearing all this history is so interesting
@Deathtroopers09
@Deathtroopers09 Жыл бұрын
She is even more stunning now
@wakatanaii2404
@wakatanaii2404 6 ай бұрын
God, this was so hard to watch and not feel. I feel like Linds is my twin. You are NOT alone. There is someone out there with the SAME struggle as you. Please fight on 💯💪🏾🙏🏾
@jackiejoo2878
@jackiejoo2878 Жыл бұрын
I’m sobbing now so that’s cool 😭
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