^^ there ya go folks, you can get upwards of 12 amps of Dewalt electrons :)

Faster chargers = money saved on expensive batteries as fewer can recharge faster and keep you going. 1112 + Flexvolts ftw! 💪🏻

I would argue that the 4 port dcb104 charger is the best. 8amp rate so a little slower but 4 at once. I use a lot of flexvolt and I can't kill 4 batteries as fast as that can charge them.

@@bossmanz28 A power strip works wonders. ;) But yeah, that's a nice convenient package and generally fast enough.

Yup 4-6 amp chargers are the ideal range for speed and longevity. Also, Dewalts battery warranty is pretty good...they generally just ask for a few details and then ship you a new battery. Either way, glad the video was helpful and enjoy your new tools!

Glad it was helpful :) let me know if you ever have any questions!

Outstanding extra info!

Thank you!

Yup, good choices, they're really in the sweet spot of things :)

The chargers themselves get really hot too, converting over 100 watts of AC to DC uses up a fair bit of energy...but that's a neat theory that they're cooling the battery too.

TTC did a good video on PowerDetect vs Flexvolt Advantage...the gist is, they're just letting the tools draw a smidge more power from the bigger batteries. IMO, and I said this in my grinder showdown video, you're better off just getting the full 60v since you have to use the big batteries anyway (the bulk of the expense) but the 60v tools have WAY more beans than the detect/advantage stuff. TTC vid: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rLBzncR-v7iagH0.html&ab_channel=TorqueTestChannel

@@SomeGuysGarage Yeah, they made that video while I was still in the return period. I decided to keep it because it slightly beat out the FVA version (unlike the other PD vs FVA tools) and I don’t have any 60V tools/batteries anyway. I’m not even sure they make a true FlexVolt hammer drill until you step up to SDS, SDS+, SDS Max, etc. Also, I had a Lowe’s gift card that I couldn’t spend at Home Depot. ;) Love that 8AH battery but I still need to get that better-performing 6AH that TTC used.

@@emmettturner9452the 9AH is where it's at in the 60v flexvolt batteries, don't bother with the 6ah. You're right, they don't make a hammer drill in 60v, there's no real point because SDS type drills are really where it's at for concrete drilling. I actually find myself hardly using my hammer drills these days, I usually either go for the smaller DCD708 or DCD800's...or my corded sds+ for anything concrete hard...or this year I did pick up the 60v mixing drill if I need gobs of torque at low rpm (auger bits, larger holes in steel, etc.).

@@SomeGuysGarage Yeah, but I have absolutely nothing that can use the extra oomph at 60V. The 9AH makes extra oomph in 20V Max tools too but not quite as much as the 6AH 20V Max which is why my sights are set on that one (not the FlexVolt 6AH). The 6AH 20V Max is the battery that TTC routinely demonstrates outperforming every other battery (including 9AH FlexVolt and 5AH PowerStack) in 20V Max tools. If my dual 20V Max DeWALT mower used FlexVolt at 60V instead of these God-awful 10AH 20V Max batteries then I’d be hunting for a deal on 9AH FlexVolts too. The 10AH 20V Max batteries that came with it are so failure-prone that DeWALT sometimes bundles the mower with 12AH FlexVolt batteries instead… despite it being dual 20V Max instead of 60V. The 8AH and 6AH 20V Max batteries are both high amperage/discharge 21700 cells but TTC credits the specific Samsung cells only used in the 6AH for the extra performance.

@@emmettturner9452 Oh yeah, that makes a lot of sense then. I thought you meant the flexvolt 6ah :) but ya, the "regular" 20v 6ah is a double stack of 21700's in parallel, hence why it makes all the beans.

Nice to see you've tried some things I haven't before :) lots of good info there, thanks!

@@SomeGuysGarage my DeWalt 10 AH 20V is running my laptop VIA USB C from USB C in out unit. . as I type. runs like 8 to 10 hours. now get DeWalt with 20V 21in lawn mower that takes 2 battery's and comes with 2 10AH sold at Home Depot but only comes with 1 charger. but you need both battery's charged to run mower. ? thought was odd only 1 battery charger in kit.

@@robertmeyer4744 Yeah...I guess the thought is charge back to back since you aren't always cutting the grass. Or they do make multi-bay chargers but might have driven the price up past the number they wanted.

@@SomeGuysGarage I have 4 port charger what I use. mine came with 2 -5AH battery's. had it a few years . the new one comes with 10 AH battery. great mower.

The DCB112 should charge anything, the DCB100 is only meant for charging the 12v batteries, not the 20v or 60v, hence fewer pins.

Thanks bro, I will subscribe at your chanel

@@EdwinPadilla14 Happy to help, let me know if you have any other questions!

As far as I know none of them will. The 40v system was pretty standalone.

Maybe it failed to negotiate USB-PD? Not all USB-C cables support Power Delivery specification but it sounds like you were using the same cable both times so I’m not sure why it might fail and fall back. Wouldn’t be the first time I’ve heard of USB-C failing to negotiate PD and falling back to a lower charge rate despite everything being PD-compliant so it does happen. One other possibility is that the batteries before were nearly charged so it immediately went to slower stage 2 charging.

@@emmettturner9452 Possibly something with USB-PD ya...same cable, same battery, same 1 bar state of charge (I hadn't used/charged the powerstack battery between these videos). My one other guess, when I filmed the short video I was using it between the adapter, the laptop, other ac adapters, etc. so perhaps it got confused along the way (despite full power cycles).

Either will work, the 107 while slower, will keep your batteries in top shape longer and is probably a less expensive option too, so go that way!

@@SomeGuysGarage thanks

Agreed, that's why the ~4 amp chargers are kind of the sweet spot...no need for the big 6-8 amp chargers, but not as slow as the little 2 amp ones. Good for battery health/life.

@@SomeGuysGarage I always use the slowest charger time permits. I’m probably excessively paranoid about battery life, but I hate paying for them so they get babied.

@@sswwooppee I have a bunch that are getting quite old, 2016-2017ish era, and still hold a charge just fine...they've been charged on all different chargers, sometimes fully, sometimes partially, left in a cold (nearly freezing) garage for months every winter, you name it...I don't baby them and have yet to lose one, other than a membrane button for battery level on a less than year old 3ah which Dewalt just sent a new battery. I think they're more durable than you'd expect.

I recently capacity tested a 4ah battery from 2014, it's been abused by me, though I'm not a tradie and it probably only gets cycled 5 times a month in average, and I got it second hand, I was very surprised when I capacity tested it and find it's still just over 3ah, given that the brand new 5ah pack gave me 4.5ah capacity at 1.5a load that's probably not a massive loss. It's only been on a 4a charger in the 7 years I've had it.

Will give it a try and report back.

Yes, you can charge the 60v batteries in most 20v chargers.

LoL or have any sensible model number scheme or actually listed specs in full and consistently on their website too :) Their website is honestly awful.

@@SomeGuysGarage Yeah all companies need to do that and put it on their website. I'm getting DeWalt prune (on sale) & battery and is now looking for right charger

120w? that's insane, what kind of phone takes 120 watts?

Some smartphones from OnePlus, Motorola, Oppo, and many more can charge with 100-200 W

The 15" MacBook Pro comes with a 140W USB-C wall brick. I'm guessing that will charge a DeWalt battery at 100W with the USB charger. I usually just use a compact 30W brick with the computer as that's more than adequate unless I need a fast recharge.

@@caseygina3553 That would be awesome to see!

It is less efficient...it's an 8 amp charger at 20v that's ~160 watts of output to the battery, it was drawing nearly 200 watts. That means ~40 watts is getting wasted as heat (hence the fan cooling). If you compare that proportionally to the other chargers, the DCB118 is wasting a higher percentage of its input power as heat rather than going into the battery. This is the downside of fast charging, there's more wasted energy (ie less efficient).

@@SomeGuysGarage That makes sense, but there are two issues, how much of that extra current is used by the fan and how can we be certain how much current is actually getting to the battery? Id assume it's around 8 amps, but it could be higher or lower. Also, these batteries aren't really 20v, they are 18v, so that changes the math.

@@notslowtube The fan is still energy it's drawing that isn't being put into the battery, I can't imagine the fan accounts for more than 1-2 watts though. They are 18v nominal, a fully charged one will read 20v or thereabouts across the terminals (I'll do a video to show that shortly). The charging voltage needs to be slightly higher than the battery voltage to actually be able to charge too, so it will see 20v output from the charger (I'll see if I can probe that too).

@notslowtube - here's how the voltage changes across it's charge state: kzfaq.infor_kWcL5xRxc?feature=share

If you put a meter on them when charged they do read 20v (or a bit higher) and will hold that voltage surprisingly long as you use them. 18v is the nominal voltage for the lithium cells inside though, but the batteries will drop down lower than 18v (to like 15-16v) before the tools shut off, so it's not really an accurate number either. In the end they should be called 15.5-20.4v batteries lol

The word "max" is there for a reason. Yes, they are 18v "nominal", like most others. But to say they aren't 20v is also incorrect, as they are. It's not much different than any other battery, really. 1.5v dry cell batteries are only at 1.5v for a part of their charged life. Your 12v car battery is actually higher, typically about 12.8-12.9 - some really good ones can even top 13v. If it reads 12v, it's considered "discharged" and needs to be charged. Much less than 11.5 and it won't even start most engines.

LoL you can find things on Dewalt's site? That's a first!