oztooltalk take a look at the latest brushless angle grinders from Dewalt, the DCG405 and DCG406. Super compact and powerful, we put it through it's paces to see what it's made of.
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@linhquang4590 Жыл бұрын
I had a lot of old pipes and rebar to cut up and from what I read kzfaq.infoUgkxPDBfLu68o58Aw85O_J-zIFfjJARBhp-3 this would be the tool for the job. Since I had never used one, I watched a couple of youtube videos and I'm so glad I did. Some really good safety tips, which I followed, and this tool did a splendid job. One good thing to know is the weight of the tool puts just about the right amount of pressure on the metal I was cutting, so I didn't have to use a lot of pressure, which is more likely to jam the tool. It made fast work of my job.
@multibusa3 жыл бұрын
Almost all of my power & battery tools spanning some 35 years are Makita. Back when I first purchased Makita corded tools, they were rightly rated industrial tools, whereas given the pricing wars these days, I’d only rate them as trade tools if that makes sense. Because I’m so invested in Makita 18v tools & batteries, I don’t really consider anything else. However I had the chance to use an older Dewalt 18v brushed paddle grinder running at 7000rpm. I wasn’t expecting much tbh, especially as I already own a Makita 18v 125mm grinder, but jeeze, I was astonished the power of that thing. I deliberately put weight on the grinder while cutting angle iron, just to see how much it would take to stall it. I have to say, it took a fair bit of force to stall it. It made my Makita grinder look pants. My old brushed Makita grinder has half the power and worse still, if you push the grinder, a red light flashes and shuts the grinder off. I’ve not tried Makita’s latest brushless grinder, but I’m confident it wouldn’t compare with Dewalt’s DCG 405N. I’m so impressed with the Dewalt 18v grinder that I’m seriously considering buying one. I never thought I’d buy anything other than Makita. I’m really happy with my other Makita tools, with the exception of their poxey underpowered grinder. Bit the bullet and went over the dark side and bought the latest Dewalt grinder, which runs at 9000 rpm’s. Totally impressed. Unfortunately I’d not seen your Makita- Dewalt comparison of their latest machines. I don’t want to watch it either because if they’re just about equal, then I’d have bought the Makita, having so many 18v batteries. Still, either way, I’m so impressed with my Dewalt, I don’t regret buying it, plus I managed to get a couple of almost new 4 ah batteries for just a few favours as my pal has gone Bosch, so a small (ish) investment.
@OZToolTalk3 жыл бұрын
we did a cordless grinder comparison not that long ago. The Dewalt and Makita were equal winners. Both are exceptional units, with the Dewalt being a little more powerful. Go check it out :D
@mazdamedia59955 жыл бұрын
You could say I’m a Dewalt fanboy, I have 3 tools now and love them all.
@stefanhoffmann84173 жыл бұрын
I have 2 :D a Drill and a 1/2" impact driver DCF899NT
@kgradio8 ай бұрын
What an awesome and detailed review, thanks for taking the time to put this together. I just ordered the 20 V version, # DCG405B and I think I'll rather happy with its capabilities after watching this review.
@TheColinputer5 жыл бұрын
I agree with the additional spot for the handle. If you are cutting something vertically, EG a cutting off a pole at ground level or something then the normal position is fine. But say cutting horizontal you really need that one on the back inline with the center of the disk And for me, switch all the way. Im often having to cut stuff off at odd angles and in less than optimal work conditions so having to hold the paddle for me would be a pain. My main grinder is still the original Makita DGA504 (i think) anyway
@knightonkid899311 ай бұрын
I purchased the 406 paddle, reason being you can turn the grinder of with both hands holding. Recently cutting in a confined area after removing the grinder and letting go to turn it off the the whole thing moved enough to catch the outer coating of an electric cable! Momentary eye deviation but enough to scare me just a bit
@nigehood14 жыл бұрын
Would like to have seen more on the paddle as I’ve never seen it before but otherwise thanks great vid 😊
@OZToolTalk4 жыл бұрын
Noted!
@joeframer96425 жыл бұрын
Nice to see you appreciate Dewalt tools finally
@OZToolTalk5 жыл бұрын
Joe Framer Lol you speak as if we havnt before !?? You need to watch a few more of our vids mate.
@stupidwapdaggo5 жыл бұрын
@@OZToolTalk you tied them for #1 with Makita. This guy just needs an excuse to flex his victim complex. Brand deification like this tends to bring out the worst in people.
@spambunny1233 жыл бұрын
Good review thankyou gents
@OZToolTalk3 жыл бұрын
Our pleasure!
@Pedro.Chapps5 жыл бұрын
been looking into getting a Cordless Grinder for Cutting tile as that is my main use for it, I have an older Dewalt one that switch is broken so i have to keep the switch pushed on and its too costly to fix so Cordles is getting serious consideration
@jasonvandervalk36795 жыл бұрын
I own this grinder one of the best ive used.
@erwinfilius8183 жыл бұрын
Can you use flat discs on these or do you need depressed center?
@danwatts82695 жыл бұрын
Scored one of these in a kit with a 5ah batt and charger for $199 aud
@Paul-tq3tn3 жыл бұрын
Some sites in NZ wont allow use of the switch tool for safety reasons. Paddle only.
@OZToolTalk3 жыл бұрын
pretty annoying ;)
@jameskrivitsky97155 жыл бұрын
I recently purchased a DCG413 with a paddle . Do you know what other differences there are ? J K
@johnwatson5654 жыл бұрын
Just got the dcg405n...two 5 amp bats..charger..stacking box...bit dissapointed it didnt come with any discs at all !!....good quality though !
@OZToolTalk4 жыл бұрын
nice one. I think you'll manage to pickup a couple of $1.5 discs ;)
@garthqueen5 жыл бұрын
also do flathead version DCG405FN
@whatdyouwannaknow87892 жыл бұрын
Love the review guys, but didn't really feel like a head to head comparison. I'm not sure if that's what you were going for, but I've not really come away knowing the key differences, maybe I missed something, but other then that, cracking video.
@OZToolTalk2 жыл бұрын
It definitely wasn't a head to head, because they are just two variations of the same tool.
@OZToolTalk2 жыл бұрын
And thanks!
@whatdyouwannaknow87892 жыл бұрын
@@OZToolTalk maybe head to head wasnt the right choice of words, but key differences and what stands out between the two, why you'd wanna buy one over the other sort of thing, and youre welcome!
@OZToolTalk2 жыл бұрын
Well the only difference is the switch, which I think we covered in quite a lot of detail 👍
@aahhman107 Жыл бұрын
What type of guard did you used in the cordless?
@joshbenton8105 жыл бұрын
I just scored a dcd996 drill, dcf887 impact driver, the 406 grinder, a 6AH fvolt bat, and charger for 549 NZD(like 450 aud)
@OZToolTalk5 жыл бұрын
Nice!!
@Patrick-8575 жыл бұрын
Same. I'm in NZ too. Everyone is buying that kit, it's a great deal. I already had an 887, but I decided to keep the other one because sometimes 2 impacts speeds things up, not having to change bits constantly. I'm really impressed with this grinder though. And the drill is a beast too.
@eliazografos25615 жыл бұрын
awsome, im from nz also. What shop ?
@Patrick-8575 жыл бұрын
@@eliazografos2561 it was all the shops, a Dewalt promotion. Varied a little. It's over now though I think.
@FAHRENHEIT451JL2 жыл бұрын
Feel opposed to having the paddle trigger on a grinder. Works beautifully on the multi tool but grinders are really dangerous and having a trigger like that I feel would result in accidental engagement. Let me know if my concerns are valid.
@OZToolTalk2 жыл бұрын
the paddle is supposed to be a safety feature. if it leaves your hands for any reason, or you let it go because of an accident, the power turns off immediately.
@mortality19874 жыл бұрын
yeaaaah, yep.
@ariagferreira89602 жыл бұрын
Does it reverse?
@8thsinner3 жыл бұрын
Hi guys, need a fast response on this if possible, Can this run with a DCB181? I don't know how the battery compatiability works on the xr series...
@OZToolTalk3 жыл бұрын
yes, every 18V tool and battery are compatible (excluding the older style of stem pack 18v batteries)
@8thsinner3 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@kpn58314 жыл бұрын
hi guys, just wanna ask about the runtime per 1 single charge of battery, eg 5Ah using with our dewwalt brushless ??? so how long does it takes till the battery run out ????
@OZToolTalk4 жыл бұрын
It's hard to say, it varies so much depending on what you try to do with it. To give you an idea though, watch our grinder comparison, which includes a runtime test. [Dwain]
@Roguey5 жыл бұрын
im a little surprised you didnt mention the 54v grinder, do you prefer the 18v one over the 54v? thanks,
@OZToolTalk5 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised too. I prefer the 18V one for light-gauge stuff, and the FV for bigger stuff ;) They're both awesome.
@OZToolTalk5 жыл бұрын
Roguey We did review the 54V previously though, you will find it in our Dewalt playlist.
@Daniel-Weaver3 жыл бұрын
Where are they made?
@Ben-Taylor7002 жыл бұрын
Hi mate, new to this channel, was wondering if you could say what your thoughts would be to the best battery operated angle grinder on the market today is?
@OZToolTalk2 жыл бұрын
Hi Ben, in terms of high power units, it's hard to go past the XGT and Flexvolt units. If you don't need the most powerful units on the market, there are many excellent. units around, including 18v units from Bosch, DeWalt, Makita, Metabo, Hilti and AEG. have you watched our grinder comparison?
@olgajoachimosmundsen46475 жыл бұрын
What is the power compared to Bosch and Makita 18v grinders?
@OZToolTalk5 жыл бұрын
Joachim Osmundsen Jump into our latest massive grinder comparison here on KZfaq and watch it 👍🏼👍🏼. It will have ALL the answers you want.
@michaelbamber48875 жыл бұрын
Is this an up dated brushless then?
@Dave-1290r4 жыл бұрын
I'm about to start buying good tools and I want to stick to the same brand!I am pushing towards makita but would you if going to spend a few grand on tools go down that road?Thanks great channel
@nguont3 жыл бұрын
I’d get makita to start with. If you like a particular tool from another brand, you can just a an adapter to use the makita batteries.
@Paul-tq3tn3 жыл бұрын
Ive been an Electrician (incl apprenticeship) for 5 years. Ive been asking a lot of questions of co-workers about all the different varieties of brushless Batt operated power tools. Im finally about to invest in some quality (Have been using AEG which has been ok) - and Im going with De Walt, for what its worth. Almost took the Milwaukee brand, but they dont do a good quality power cable stapler like De Walt do so that ended up being the tipping point. Otherwise, either of those brands seem to be the preferred overall. When I first started, everyone said Makita was the bomb, but over the years - most people opt for the former in my experience.
@bradelsom84042 жыл бұрын
All my tools are dewalt and i work with 5 people who have all makita sets they're constantly complaining about they're tools dewalt are absolutely spot on 👌🏽
@nguont3 жыл бұрын
Do these have overheating issues like their impact drivers? Asking anyone in the comments if they experience with these
@OZToolTalk3 жыл бұрын
in my experience, most impact drivers (not just dewalt) can suffer from overheating when used hard for a long time (e.g. battening down roofing timber). I've not had a similar issue with the grinder, no.
@nguont3 жыл бұрын
@@OZToolTalk that’s good to hear as I just bought one . Thanks
@JustTony725 жыл бұрын
Would you recommend the 18V or the 54V?
@OZToolTalk5 жыл бұрын
[Dwain] depends what you are cutting! I find the 18V enough for most things.
@mikekahotea8148 Жыл бұрын
Hey mate what is the power output of the 405 incomparable to a corded grinder
@OZToolTalk Жыл бұрын
I would say that it isn't quite as powerful as an entry level (~700W) grinder. But it does a great job of almost all cutting tasks.
@mikekahotea8148 Жыл бұрын
@@OZToolTalk thank you for that much appreciated 👍
@michaelc72835 жыл бұрын
Hi Guys Just watch your video on the DeWalt DCG405 20v brushless grinder. I'm across the pond but we don't have the grinder with the switch on the side. I just don't understand that one. I like that style then the paddle. I just wanted to know if there is any difference in the batteries set up or charger. I would like to get the one with the switch but can't find one here. Maybe i just have to buy one from you..Lol
@OZToolTalk5 жыл бұрын
Michael Carrion That’s weird you don’t get it. I don’t understand how some countries miss out on options.
@OZToolTalk5 жыл бұрын
batteries the same. just have to check voltage and plug type for chargers
@michaelc72835 жыл бұрын
@@OZToolTalk thank you for that info.
@Patrick-8575 жыл бұрын
It's likely the switch type will disappear soon. It's considered a hazard. They are convenient, sure, but we have all had a switched grinder fcuk off on us. Triggers and paddle switches are where it's going. Same as the triggers on circ saws. You won't find any new ones on the market that don't have that thing on the side you have to push with your thumb to unlock the trigger.
@michaelc72834 жыл бұрын
@@Patrick-857 That's weird because in the U.S. Makita and now Milwaukee has the switch model on their grinder but it's on the top and not on the side.
@jonienglish32313 жыл бұрын
how does it compare to the Cheaper unit DCG412 Brushed
@OZToolTalk3 жыл бұрын
substantial improvement.
@jonienglish32313 жыл бұрын
@@OZToolTalk Kool Mate - i ended up Getting the DCG412 on Sale $99.99 CAD : Prefered the Smaller Grip Size and Lower RPM : DeWalt Upgraded the DCG412 Guard to Ratchet Style like the DCG413 :small Detents Counterclockwise Adjust .
@daithimurphy18322 жыл бұрын
Would 3ah battery be enough to power one of these??
@OZToolTalk2 жыл бұрын
It won't be AS powerful as a 5Ah, but yes a 3Ah has enough power. A 'compact' 3Ah might struggle...
@daithimurphy18322 жыл бұрын
@@OZToolTalk ok it's just that I have 2 battery's with my drill so was thinking of buying a bare grinder unit
@kalan09212 жыл бұрын
Milwaukee fsagv125 or this dewalt?? Thanks
@OZToolTalk2 жыл бұрын
Both are great 👍
@kalan09212 жыл бұрын
@@OZToolTalk thank you:) which is stronger, which is more ergonomic?
@CaptainCrunch4863 жыл бұрын
Try getting one in the UK at the moment.....impossible!
@OZToolTalk3 жыл бұрын
really? they're so easy to get in Australia, especially the paddle version.
@CaptainCrunch4863 жыл бұрын
@@OZToolTalk yea there like rocking horse shit over here at the moment. I’ve finally managed to get one though 👍
@georgeksirakis88983 жыл бұрын
what about this model with a 24 v battery? Cant tell if it is genuine Dewalt or chinesium. the kit came with 2 24 v batteries and a case ? was i scammed? should i throw it away ? , can someone fill me in?? thanks
@OZToolTalk3 жыл бұрын
yep 24V is not right, definitely not genuine.
@danielmihai55 жыл бұрын
The switch must be put in the midle, not in the left side. Is ergonomically stupid, because for cutting the sparks and dust go to the worker, like in clip images. If somebody want to change the guard, the switch will be on the ground side, almost imposible to use.
@rynomadman15 жыл бұрын
You can rotate the head to any side i believe
@hardkore3604 жыл бұрын
@@rynomadman1 yes you can, and doesnt require a screw driver to adjust, it simply rotates and locks into place
@sanjeevsharma91952 жыл бұрын
could be batter and clear on point may make the bullet point
@user-cb6ed2es8s2 жыл бұрын
Do i have to pit only 125 mm??? Can i use 115 mm in it?
@OZToolTalk2 жыл бұрын
umm it depends whether the arbor size is the same. if so, then it would be no problem, but I suspect not.
@RexBanner_5 жыл бұрын
Ozzie, Ozzie, Ozzie..
@OZToolTalk5 жыл бұрын
oi, oi, oi
@karthikh37183 жыл бұрын
I am confused with models as u are not mentioning it in video and god knows on which model you are talking on
@OZToolTalk3 жыл бұрын
sorry, look in the description
@XJlover905 жыл бұрын
Why is it 18v? Here is the U.S. it's 20v
@OZToolTalk5 жыл бұрын
ToolmanHenderson No they didn’t mate, America calls it 20v and Australia and many other countries are 18v
@XJlover905 жыл бұрын
@@OZToolTalk So same tool just different sticker?
@OZToolTalk5 жыл бұрын
ToolmanHenderson Yes, 20v is the max output I believe but it’s a little cheeky calling it 20v Dwain has more of an idea of the specifics. We are also planning on a FULL battery overview for KZfaq soon and I dare say this topic will be covered. (Mike)
@rafaelrodriguez76845 жыл бұрын
Marketing thats why
@danbel345 жыл бұрын
I bought the 20v job site fan from the US, shipped it to Oz, and it runs perfectly on my 18v batteries👍
@covingtonrace15 жыл бұрын
Flexvolt do give more power, in every tool, another review channel did lots of tests, every tool performed better and better froma 2.0ah 4.0ah 5.0ah and flexvolt did the best, higher blade speeds, and more torque
@chris7465684625 жыл бұрын
The voltage sag will be lower with flexvolt batteries. There are 3 cells in parallel in a 6-12Ah flexvolt battery. Compare that to a 2Ah with just 1... On a high current device, you should see noticeable improvements in performance with larger Ah packs.
@Patrick-8575 жыл бұрын
@@chris746568462 It's not just the higher cell count. They are 21700 cells not 18650s. Much bigger cells, with much higher current capacity. The performance difference with a flexvolt battery vs a normal 18v battery on my 18v circ saw in particular is very noticeable.
@chris7465684625 жыл бұрын
@@Patrick-857 Yea, that will certainly help too. Though i think dewalt use Sanyo NCR20700A.
@Patrick-8575 жыл бұрын
@@chris746568462 Maybe for the 6AH ones. Pretty sure the 9 and 12 have 21700s.
@chocolate_squiggle3 жыл бұрын
@@Patrick-857 Larger cells may be capable of putting out more current, but I doubt they will unless the tool intelligently demands it somehow. A tool won't spin any faster at no load just because of 21700's. Possibly a little because of less voltage sag, yes, but not because the cells have higher current capacity (the 18650's are not worked to maximum current draw anyway). The tool has a certain resistance (at each setting) and it's voltage that overcomes that resistance. If you want more current flow, you need more voltage or less resistance. Simply using more or bigger cells at the same voltage has only a small effect and that's due to voltage sag. I agree with chris, the difference you notice is due to a greater number of cells in the flexvolt leading to less voltage sag under load (the load is shared amongst more cells).
@waynewicks68144 жыл бұрын
I would not waste my money on over priced tools when the bauer which I've had for everything I'm not talking about the first gen but the second gen grinder is fantastic my boss has a ridged and I out last and cut faster then his and I never had a big down or cut off unless the battery was running low and I put some good pressure on it
@maurokotas5 жыл бұрын
πες του Αλεκου που ειναι στα αριστερα .. αν θες να μιλαμε για ασφαλεια δεν κανουμε ΠΟΤΕ αλλαγη δισκου σε γωνιακο τροχο με την μπαταρια φορεμενη....
@jassem33335 жыл бұрын
Take the battrey off please !
@OZToolTalk5 жыл бұрын
It doesn't work like that :P
@honda97315 жыл бұрын
Not first
@JohnSmith-xh8pf4 жыл бұрын
Яп-яп, них...я не понятно.
@terrygoyan30225 жыл бұрын
Posted during a 49’ers game. Sorry but can’t watch now!
@OZToolTalk5 жыл бұрын
Terry Goyan 😂 Priorities 👍🏼👍🏼
@t-jkojo46233 жыл бұрын
Very good tool but this well shot video is sooo unprofessional. Why? Because lack of gloves, proper working clothes etc? Safety first!
@Paul-tq3tn3 жыл бұрын
Simmer down mate
@stevens55412 жыл бұрын
Unsubscribe
@OZToolTalk2 жыл бұрын
ok
@cameronmaillard54403 жыл бұрын
I’m DEWALT all the way! Love there tool quality tools! Love your videos boys!