Wranglerstar hey so i have a question for you do you buy the tools or do they send them to you for the cheapest tools on amazon series

Renn renn renn! :D I love your saw and axe videos very useful before spending a lot of money you have to drill holes or saw things on horse paddle you will never miss the wired tools again.

He said at the beginning he bought it and it is not a sponsored test.

Wranglerstar I love all your videos

I hate yellow saws ! and battery saws do not run long enough, a blue,corded saw with a sharp blade is what you need to get some work done !

Use them framing, the dewalt saw will last 3/4 of the day of continuous use on one battery. Been dropped a few times off the roof and survived the fall. The dewalt nailer works ok, but not quite there yet to replace a pneumatic nailer.

I'm a proud American cord cutter, that still uses the same cord just alot shorter!

That’s when you replace the stock cord with the extension cord you cut in half last week. I love a nice 25’ cord on my skill saw.

Onlyy beginners cut their cords.( any experienced carpenter always make sure the cord is out the way before he starts saw.i sometimes even hold cord with my foot out the way....ok

Just the outer sheath...😂

@@redecks336 Essential craftsman fan?

It would be worse. Diablo is King

@@joey809 lol it'll just be worse. The dewalt blades aren't great. Diablo is known to be the best blade bar none

Better or worse it would make a more realistic test.

I'd like to see a test with two brand new saws.

There wouldn’t be a difference

Also, worm drives spin at a much slower rpm than a regular circular saw. It’s no wonder one was faster. This guy did a really poor job at comparing the two saws. He didn’t even bother picking up an extra Diablo blade so they at least have the same cutting edge. I think he should just stop doing any kind of comparison videos with such a poor lazy effort.

I was looking for someone to point this out bc he kept calling it worm drive.

then the dewalt would have won by a bigger gap, the skil had a better blade

@@budfahnestock2418 Diablo is the best. As someone with at least 100 miles of board length cut and used every top saw available. As well as every blade on the market I'm sure. Diablo simply is the best. But.. I have to admit the Irwin blade is actually not bad either. Dewalts blade is good at first though.

The DeWalt is thinner and made for cordless.

Ark Pil They fall on all the beer cans they threw off the roof earlier..

Hah!

We still have air hoses!

The nearest carpenter

And at 400 I'm diving after that thing if it falls

Yes I agree, only today I tripped over an air hose and nearly fell down,

When you learn how to use a saw it won't be dangerous anymore. Lithium ion is considered to be a Hazzard in the shipping industry and requires markings to alert to that. Why is that? Because in extreme temperature or use they are known to start on fire and explode. So safety guy what technique can you learn to prevent that?

@migardener trying to get a darwin award

Maybe you shouldn't leave your house then.

OzarksTactical Homesteading you can see the yellow cord. Gauge looks big and it looks at most 30 feet

Im sure it wasn’t a long pull on the extension cord. The biggest difference is the motor, brushless has come a long long way and with battery technology, you can now leave the cord at home.

Good point, for the test I used a heavy gage 25' cord

Voltage drops, not amps.

I agree brushless has held it's own but if you are cutting all day I am gonna say you need at least 4 batteries in rotation so that the batteries don't take a beating.

Lots of issues maintaining the control baseline here. Old vs new. Should have two identical blades both brand new too. (That means first saw doesn’t dull blade for second saw). No guide for cuts. Could have more wobble or less wobble which skews the test. And likely a few more ... That said, it’s still a pretty big difference in speed. That rig will cost a lot with 3-4 batteries and extra charger(s) to support it. And space in the truck/toolbox. No cord is a huge convenience, but depending on total run time per battery it could also cost you some up/down on the ladder too. Still, darn convenient! 😀

halnywiatr all the 18 volt brushed motor tools are toys compared to the new dewalt brushless 60v tools... It’s going to take 20 years before we see a better battery then used today..

The cordless tool experience depends on the brand and model you purchased. I have 18 volt Dewalt tools that are literally from 1999 and 20 years later, they still work fine and batteries are still available. In addition, Dewalt makes an adapter so that those older 18v tools can use the new 20v batteries. Also the new brush less tools and new battery tech make you realize how heavy and slow the old tools are.

I find that I need at least 4 batteries on port but it sure as hell beats dragging a cord in the mud and worrying about what is on top of my cord. The time I save cutting more than makes up for the 25 or so yards to rotate batteries. It gives me time to light up a smoke.

I have 8 batteries and 2 saws :)

Also don't have to have a cord draped over your shoulder so don't cut the cord.

Adriel Rowley if you have to have the cord around your shoulder then you haven't learned the tricks of the trade, work smart not hard.

Well then where else will it go that not risking getting cut?

I was surprised myself,

AntiLißTard ed 6

I have to agree WOW I didn't think the dwalt had a chance I build for a living and I wouldn't believe it if I hadn't seen it

If you can, wait just a bit longer, since both Dewalt and Milwaukee will be coming out with 12Ah update to their batteries... Presently they max out at 9Ah... Newer batteries will also perform better and tools coming out by the end of the year should be taking advantage of that improved performance... This saw should still work with the new battery, though... But for other tools there may be some significant updates coming out by the end of the year...

My "Wow" was for a different reason. The Dewalt blade had the deep gullets of a framing blade. The Skilsaw's blade had shallow gullets which would struggle with the full 2" thick timber (it had not been milled to customary 1 1/2"). So my WOW was, this looked to me to be a setup.

You just saw an example of battery being more powerful than corded.

Faster RPM with a narrow kerf blade made the difference. You would see the same differences if a sidewinder were the saw being tested.

They both take standard 7 1/4 inch blades. Kerf has nothing to do with this.

@@chrissmith2921 7 1/4 is a diameter, not a blade type. Kerfs and capabilities vary with blade type.

Jay Burton doesn't look like that here.

I've seen Cody not finish a lot of projects. Cody needs a boss to make his schedule or he just gets lost in the noise.

The bridge is done! We've seen pictures of it in the thumbnails. Seems we're just waiting for the last video.

Financial loss? Sounds like you don't know how KZfaq, promotion, and branding work. This channel would not be sustainable without people willing to cut checks.

Think it’s a wireless remote for a camera.

DR PHIL he’s probably talking about a thief using the grinder to cut locks so they can steal locked up stuff. Like all of our other tools that we think are safely locked up. 😬

If I am at my bench I agree. In fact, I love my little pneumatic drill for working on my bench.

the new lithium ion are way more convenient then the old ni-cad tools used to use, leave them on the charger it doesnt hurt them and theyll always be there ready to go, they dont really lose charge when left off the charger maybe over the course of 6+ months, lithium lasts alot of years atleast 5 with heavy use probably get 10 out of them at home owner/hobbiest level and theyre no more likely to get lost then anything else, big bright colours and should be attached to a tool whenever in use

DiBoguy It does not matter More speed less torque Mean easily STALLED And hence the dewalt would be slower But no the skillsaw worm drive even with more torque is still on the point of stalling and slower Why ?? The dewalt has BRUSHLESS motor That deliver MORE torque when almost stalled even they are direct drive Hence the dewalt win We RC car , RC helicopter , RC plane , drone Already knew the superiority of Brushless motor

The Skilsaw has quite a bit more power , "torque" than the cordless,"battery " unit !! Though, if you roll out a 100 ' of 14 gauge cord, you will have a significant drop in performance with most corded tools , 10 amp and above !!

@@brianharrigan8821 Not really . With BRUSHED motor. the designed torque specification cannot be achieved. Here several reason. 1. Brush bounce. The brush could not maintain 100% contact on the commutator. therefore cannot deliver 100% of the lectric power. 2. Arcing between brush and commutator. wasting electric power. 3. friction between brush and commutator. 4. At point of stalling or close to stalling the brush and commutator would heat up and waste even more power. 5. Brush motor only operate efficiently on one designed speed. Hence the need for the WORM drive (any reduction gear ) to take advantage of the most efficient designed RPM and slow it down to a useable Blade RPM. Brushless motor do not have the above problem. and with brushless motor it is easier to control the speed and timing while maintaining torque. at point of stalling brushless motor have more available torque. and no need for 100Ft 14ga or 12 ga cable either. brushless motor with new lithium batter could deliver an high Impulse of current for micro second right before the motor stall and breakthru the stall BRUSH motor cannot do that . The only limiting factor now is the battery . we in the RC hobby knew the advantage of Brushless motor and have not look back ever since. hope this help

Worm drive has nothing to do with torque or anything. It’s simply how the motor sends the power to the blade and how it’s set up.

Taylormade2350 Worm gear HAS everything to do with torque It allows the use of higher RPM motor n then lowered the speed via worm gear and have higher torque The direct drive skilsaw has higher RPM. But lowered torque Compare the lower gear vs high gear in your car !

thats all that matters , ryobi is not that bad coming from a contractor that has dewalt, milwaukee and makita

skill mag has better blade, and the diference is huge, anyhow. its ok to have 5-6 seconds delay betwin saws, but 100% time + on corded saw ? Come on man

@@crinaandreea9640 Not going to trust some new saw after Skill has been King for Decades. Battery has proven to be heavy, expensive and unreliable. Then what. Happens when a new battery is introduced and your 6 yr old battery saw is now junk.

@@cristinafultz2378 your work with saws are reserved for hobby activity ? or contractor? IF you are contractor, the cost of the battery in 6 years are absolutly reliable. The battery cost/performance/mobility worth ALL the money. This is the future. For the hobbyst maybe are unreliable, ( high cost industrial tools), but the tehnology will evolve very fast. Today we have battery and tools that provide more power then corded. In the past 10-15 years that was almost imposible..... . PS: I almost never use corded after cordless. If you work in a crowded site, with 5,6 tools, you will know why you need cordless. But i know your lack of trust for new tools in the consumerist era. Yep. i dont think that present companies want to create a tool to work 20 -30 years like that Skill saw, or old makita, dewalt tools : )

@@crinaandreea9640 I'm working with battery drills and flashlights. The rest of my tools get Full power . I have been using Skill & MAG77 for 25+yrs. About 20yrs ago battery was showing up in sawzaw / little warmdrive saw and they suck. .Now all the Nicle battery tools are trash because the battery is out and we have the new battery.. I'm sure the battery today is better than yesterday ((Although the old battery had a warning that it was almost out of juice)) Batterys today , working great then just like that it's dead. But the biggest thing about the battery tools is how much a Battery cost. 1 battery is more than a brand new MAG77.. and you will need 2 battery per 1 tool. That's just the way I feel about it. I'm not saying I don't like the idea . I have been burned by the battery tool game. Already and I don't trust that investment will be a good one. The name on this KZfaq channel is my wife.

To each his own but makita is garbage

Torrey Jones batterys are the only way

Apparently not, because the corded way certainly works well for me, a thousand times better than batteries ever did. Grab, plug, go, don't stop until the jobs done. no recharging, no mysteriously dead batteries, just work getting done.

Torrey Jones I'm a pro contractor the cordless system allows a multiple of advantages, first no cord, on cord to cut, roll up, and my favorite OSHA to inspect. I have multiple port chargers and high capacity batteries so the low battery problem doesn't exist. As a pro I have seen better production and just the freedoms the cordless platforms offer. One power outlet allows me to run at least 10 cordless power tools.

Good for you Mr Crowley! I'm glad that the cordless tools work so well for you. I however, am not you. I am not a contractor. I don't have to put up with OSHA. I can not USE 10 power tools at one time, so I have no need to power 10 tools at once, thought the drill press, bench grinder, and table saw do stay plugged in over in the corner. What to you is, I'm sure, an extensive list of advantages, to me is an equally long list of pains in my backside. If you're cutting cords, then you aren't paying enough attention to remain safe. Cut only what you intend to, nothing more. Anything else is negligence. No excuses. I'm 40+ years old. I have used the first cordless drills running on ni-cad batteries. I have used the latest lithium-ion powered cordless tools. I have used many of the generations in between. Even when I work sun up to sun down in my garage on some home repair or improvement project, corded tools work better *for me.* I have never had a corded tool slow down because the battery needs charging, nor quit before the job was done due to dead batteries. My work gets done, and I get to go have a beer. Batteries means that I'm either waiting for it to charge or otherwise not getting work done, meaning I don't get my beer. I do own the DeWalt 20v 5-tool combo kit (it was a gift), and to be honest, I would say that the driver sees the most use. I still prefer the pneumatic driver though, since it never stops working. You do you, and I'l do me, Cool? Cool.

Mr Crowley...you're right bro this guy is a dumbass...just whiner he doesn't have a clue.

they grew long ways the first tools they had

Sam T it’s in the works I heard

Christina Perez I had originally built up a nice brushless kit. Dewalt would not help me out with failed batteries so I sold all stuff. I deal with a Milwaukee rep now... if I break anything, he meets me or has one of my supply houses hand me a new tool/ battery. I’ve had zero problems on anything besides my tubing cutter... I beat it hard and it’s totally my fault it doesn’t last

sean peterson dewalt guarantees they’re batteries for lifetime I’ve returned and got new ones monthly !

I love my Milwaukee tools. Simply love them in my hands

Matt Smith Milwaukee, trusted by industry, will never let you down

Ryobi is good for a homeowner , so is Hitachi.

Matt Smith i bought a new Milwaukee impact for as a second drill (to speed things up) on a job that required driving a bunch of 8 inch lag bolts. Smoke began pouring out of it after about 30 minutes. Had to finish the job with my dewalt.

Cordless tools are like m&m's and nascar. On the outside there are alot to choose from. Inside they are all about the same. I've had yellow 20v for years tons of options batteries are available they last as well as u take care of them. That said I just purchased the Milwaukee m12 fuel ratchets 3/8 and 1/4. Those things are awesome! I hardly use my air tools now. Think long and hard see what tools are available in each line because they are an investment.

SoFlo Exotic Life yes sir! Skilsaw actually pointed this out to me when I sent them a question regarding the DeWalt and the Hilti

Mike Johnson totally agree with you

Exactly

Are you blind? It beat it

Ive got both saws the dewalt with a diablo blade is even better like butter the cuts, out performs the skil, even for ripping material. New short lead doesn't make a difference

Well since a true Worm drive is energy ineffecient that's a good thing, it's just because Americans are obsessed with tradition they call it a wd instead of a rear handle circular saw.

@@demsweden Americans call it what it is. Worm drive, slower blade, more torque. Standard, faster blade, less torque. Rear handled? Aren't all circular saws rear handled? Now across the pond, things may be done differently.

Blades and Bullets most saws ive seen and used were sidewinders this dewalt saw was first ive seen to be cordless rear handle

The universe is made up of Neutrons, Protons, Electrons & Morons... Once more; IT IS NOT A WORM DRIVE. Why not..? en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worm_drive

@@TheJoshuadavis73I have never heard of the term sidewinder pertaining to circular saws. Good to know. Thanks

It's a device that allows me to stay in touch with my captain,

What kind of device. Interested in seeing that

JS Krawz I

It’s probably a way to see what his camera is seeing as well as controlling zoom and focus etc.

@@wranglerstar I think he may be under house arrest.

KelMaster Construction Well said, some people can’t keep up with the times. I bet he’s a democrat

He's a hack thats why his channel is dying out

Were you even listening to the guy? He specifically said that he’s not sponsored by DeWalt, he bought the saw at retail price, and that he’s not receiving a dime from them.

2 batteries per tool and you will never run out of power.

Keith Weagle I’ve had 10 batteries a tool still not enough !

Chris Wells sounds like you are using crappy brands to me. My dewalt impact will screw decking for literally hours on a single 5ah battery. With a 45min recharge time you never run out.

I've got Dewalt, and same issue because I don't use my tools very often, maybe a few times a year, and the batteries don't work well if left in storage, or the chargers all the time. However the Black and Decker Saw my father left me that's over 30 years old still works, and get the jobs I need done every time I've used it.

Commodorefan64 sounds like you have the old 18v ncad batteries. No issues at all with lithium ion.

Bukk the Left and better batteries

mattorama If someone did not make power supply for these already then someone will! That would mean best of both worlds. Less issues with voltage drop when you use cord and freedom when you use battery. BLDC motors are better then brushed AC motors in longevity and power efficiency.

If you have a dude ripping boards all day, he should probably have a table saw.

Some of the cordless tools of today ABSOLUTELY are replacements for their corded versions! The circular saw and miter saw especially. I can work the Flexvolt miter saw as hard as the corded version and last all day on the 2x6ah battery. I don't have as much experience with the Flexvolt circular saw as I do the Makita rear handle, but I know that the Makita has replaced my worm drive. The inconveniences of batteries on a job aren't any worse than those of dragging cords everywhere and dealing with nuisance GFCI tripping.

It's just the way technology is going, face up to it, accept it!

Would that table saw be powered by battery packs, or would it be corded?

Cain tuckee64 exactly most of us do on those big jobs !

Good point everything is about compromise,

I'm in Australia an working from our regulation but imagine not a huge difference in most 1st world countries but if you have worked on any construction sites it is getting so much harder having extension leads running around plus the required ohs required monthly testing plus there is just setup time anyone use to cordless tool always has charged batteries and when you need to do something its just grab and go no setup needed

Always ups and downs. If you have a job whereas you move from room to room, or floor to floor,a battery tool may be best. If you will work from a central location and you are the dedicated "saw man"... the corded tool will do the job all day, every day, no chargers, no batteries to run down.

cordless tools fail when you are using them constantly, like if don't put it down between uses, you need a cord or you'll be changing batteries every 20-30 min

Nuance? There's no place for that in the KZfaq comments section!!!! But seriously, some good points. I think corded tools are a better option for high volume tasks in a relatively close area (cut station, production framing, etc) and cordless tools are handy in more varied situations like remodels or punch list work. Although certain smaller, less power hungry tools can just be straight cordless all the time with little negatives.

Chris Wells 5 years ago that would be pretty accurate but these days you can get a long runtime with the new lithium ion batteries. They really have come a long way

Chris Wells I run my Milwaukee all day on one 9.0 battery these days you can be completely cordless and its moving that way for most trades the convenience of cutting the cord with the power matching the corded counter parts its no longer necessary to rely on having power and cordless lets me get so many more places with my tools

I've ran Makita drills alllllllll day on one battery, in fact I was amazed when it didn't start slowing down

Right on Chris! See my post above. :)

Chris Wells & Andrew Lyon My first cordless didn't run more than 10min. My latest much better. But B&D. DON'T get B&D... Not much good but for small jobs...Good thing that's all I do...

Boreal Woodsrunner I'm #292...

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knifehit 30 why? Amazon is great

knifehit 30 Agreed 100%, and I don't use them unless they are 100% the only place I can get something on the internet that I need, or have the lowest price on something which 98% of the time it's not the case.

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