Last summer when I was replacing a metal roof in my rental, I had my xdt16 while my buddy had his fuel. He kept bragging about how much more powerful his fuel was, but by the end of the day, he would reach for the Makita. Point is, smoothness, comfort, and features outweigh the slight power increase

XDT19z paired with a 2.0 Makita battery is a match made in heaven. Lightweight and compact like a 12v, smooth as silk usage, and 18v capacity with a 5.0 battery. I’m a believer.

Thank you so much I love that you take the time to do this!?

All these impact drivers are now to the point of max power that’s allowed through that tiny hex collet. I think rather than just sheer beans you really need to take weight, length, trigger pull, and vibration into account a little bit more on your scoring system. They all do the job of an impact driver, now which one is the best, not the most powerful

Dewalt is interesting (and coming from someone is highly invested in the yellow brand). They make some tools that are just amazing! And then others that make you wonder why they bothered releasing an update. I’m willing to bet there are some heads of departments in dewalt engineering that differ greatly on what they demand of their teams.

I have both XDT16 LXT impact and the first gen XGT Makita impact. Their impacts feel like surgeon scalpels. Just super well balanced and a pleasure to use.

I love my XDT19, bought for a large steel framing job to replace a old brushed Dewalt and it’s like a super car of impacts.

I found the makita by coincidence, a store had it on clearance for AUD$200 for some reason, bloody love it, especially the speed switch button just above the grip

Your presentation style is great, I really appreciate the work you guys do.

I'd love to see you test the caterpillar impact and drill from lowe's with that graphene battery. Thank you for another great in depth video!

Glad to see the DCF 840 finally got tested(err 845). Not totally surprised by the results. After seeing the 840 go up against 850 and 887 on other channels, it was clear that while it is very fast, certainly comparable to the others, it demonstrably weaker/slower by a bit in head-to-heads. It's nice to see the actual numbers compard though. It's all the more convincing that the 840 and 845 are identical outside of cosmetics and adding the old (outdated) 3 position switch. I'm surprised they decided this would take the XR name. I expect that they'll release a new model in a year or two that has a digital switch like their impact wrench line up, and a more powerful motor. I can't help but wonder if they have a bazillion of those 3-position switches and they keep using them in the 850, 845 models, just to use them up, before converting it all to the digital buttons. Every other brand is ahead in that regard. It's not even a fancy feature anymore and it certainly doesn't cost much to do it. I digress. The 845 is nice looking, but ot begs the question - why id they even make the 840? Why not dorectly make a 20 volt version of the Extreme model and call it good?

Great video as always TTC! I can't wait to see what the newest 40v Makita TD002 DST impact driver puts up at only $170 from Japan it's definitely worth a shot. The original 40v Makita GDT01 impact driver was a big let down no doubt.

Thats the song of my people

Lets get your subscriber count up, and maybe companies will stop listening to marketing BS and actually improve their tools before asking us to buy new ones... Another great video, thank you for letting me purchase the 850 instead of the 845!

Thank you, you guys rock

will yall be able to test and compare the lesser common/older impact power tools? for example the Porter cable stuff and other brands we haven't seen on the channel yet? Thanks for the content, I appreciate what you guys do.

Would love some testing with the festool TID!

Nice job! Thanks

I will always stick with my Makita tools. There’s something special with Makita. You can feel it even if they don’t always have the coolest form sometimes.

I like watching your videos. These impact drivers have gotten so powerful they twist off the 1/4 socket adapters. I don't use it enough to notice fatigue from hammering. If I used it all the time I am sure I would probably look into comfort more.

When you brought up the nice trigger on the Makita, it reminded me of how much that matters on an impact. I got the DCF850 for $100 and it is a tiny beast. The power was unreal for its small size. That being said, I hated using it because it was such a blunt use of power. It stripped everything out if I wasn't super careful before I started in on the meat of the screw. The extra half second it saved on a 4" screw wasn't worth all the trouble when starting all the screws. The Makita TD172 is a dream in this respect and I gladly trade the small power increase and accessibility for the tightest of spaces of the 850 for the better user experience of the Makita. Another reason to buy the Japanese impact is the build quality and components inside are slightly better than the US version. One point against it is that the bit chamber is made for 13mm impact bits rather than 8/9mm, so your bits swim in there without an adapter.

This was actually really interesting and timely, thank you. I've only just started moving to dewalt's 20v stuff for work -- starting with the dcf891 as convinced by your videos here. I still use a 12v dcf801 driver for interior screws, 10mm-headed bolts, etc. and in general it's been quite great at that. The new dcf845 seems to be the same form factor but with a much higher RPM, whereas maybe with the 850 I could get it into some narrower spots under the dash. The one complaint I have is the larger battery footprint of the 20v series -- though maybe it's not so noticeable with a powerstack? not sure, my 891 kit came with the rubberized 5AH batteries and those would probably weigh more than the 845 does. I think based on this video I'd probably either wait on upgrading to 20v for my driver, and when I do, maybe go for the 850 instead.

Nice! Thanks guys. Watching from Australia and using Ozito branded toys.

My Xdt19 allows me to assemble ikea without worry on busting through the wood. Superb trigger.

Thanke for the information

I can't wait for you to test the new Hercules brushless 1/4" impact driver. Day one of release, and videos show it destroying the competition and matching if not beating Milwaukee Gen 4 and Flex. I need numbers and graphs to understand better so I can make an informed purchase.

I love the 840 so I'll probably still get the 845. Like you said in the video I don't need the all the torque all the time. For a lag I'll use something else but the 840 drives screws faster than anything I own

I have the third gen Milwaukee but I find I enjoy using a Makita more. When I picked up my co-workers Makita for the first time i was blown away by the trigger control. makes it much easier and comfortable to drive sheet metal screws.

I'm a firm believer in buying tools that you have chargers for. Also Milwaukee.

Reminder to make a video of air ratchets and air drills. Chicago Pneumatic and harbor freight looking good on the drill side

I hope you do an Oil impulse impact driver video in the future.

ID LIKE to see the new brushless from Hercules test results

I am wondering if you could doe any bigger air impacts because if I want to know how impact does I come to your channel that would be greatly appreciated

Jump of excitement when a TTC Impact driver hits the feed! 😁

Could you please compare the Ryobi PCL265K1 vs the P262 as they have similar specs with different pricing and technology? Also, could you test both with 2Ah batteries? I'm asking this not only for convenience, but also because in other countries like Spain, the PCL265K1 kit includes a 2Ah battery just like the P261 did before it (And still does). Also, I've seen some 12v car emergency impact wrenches with a really big inertial hammer. They seem to compare best to mid torque impact wrenches, while giving less but more powerful impacts. Btw, they are cheap and their build quality seams to be really basic.

Thanks for continuing to be an awesome channel. And, for a change, I have some personal, past experience with the new Makita vs the new Milwaukee,(also known as "a screw snap'n sum'bitch.) That being said, I still preferred the 840 if given the choice.

You mention machine screws for electrical; to avoid crossthreading I like to reverse first to feel the threads get ready to engage, then fasten. (I also do that when refastening screws back into the same hole in wood.) I've got an old Mastercraft 4V screwdriver that has a trigger that can rock up or down for forward or reverse. Very convenient for that, and the light weight of a 4V screwdriver is quite handy for DIY electrical. Have you ever considered doing some test of 4V and 8V screwdrivers? It'd be interesting especially if there were models that could be set to cam out at a few in lbs (#6 and #8 machine screws) and at 15 in lbs (making connections to outlets).

Makita just released td173 few in japan. I very much hope you will test it

I'm on the Makita and Dewalt platform but mostly Makita. Picked up the DCF 891 and DCF 921 this Black Friday because of TTS. That and the Makita XWT14Z never dropped to below $200. I decided to get the Dewalt battery kit for $200 with DCF 921as free tool. Makita has never failed me and the smoothest out there. All day ergonomics is better than just a little more power. Only the youngens think power is all that is needed. If you look at the XDT19 its smaller than the Milwaukee Gen 3 and 4. If they wanted to they could make an impact driver more powerful than Milwaukee but the ergonomics and reliability would go down. Makita is about making small, ergonomic and reliable impact drivers. Many Makita tools beat the Milwaukee counterparts and smoother. Yet the team Red Fangirls will tell you Milwaukee is Number 1 in every tool.

Would u be able to do a comparison video of ryobis regular drill and hammer drill along with other brands and their counterparts?

great test as usual! imho this one doesn't make sense to me, same price and power as TD172, but larger and no modes, also worse trigger. Milwaukee really like to smoke eh, I would like my tools to have temp protections set below the smoking threshold tbh. Also there are two more XGT makita drivers that you can test, TD002G and new TD003G that is coming to US if it hasn't already, that one is a bit cheaper variant with less features (GDT02Z usa model). It is available at acme for 160usd already

so for driving screws and lags do you want torque or impacts? I'm looking to upgrade from my Dewalt 887 which I've beat the shit out of. trying to decide on the 850 vs 845. small form of the 850 is very tempting but if the higher impacts of the 845 are better for screws I'll go with it

That makita is a joy to use on the job but there are like 2 models that have surpassed it in Japan now (seriously the last 4 models didn't last 12 months before being replaced) I still think personally that bang for buck you can't go wrong with the TDT154Z (Australia model number) it's just a great all around impact even though it's older

Do you have the tool ranking for the smaller 1/4 chuck impacts? You have the larger square pin in the description

You guys are gonna have to test the new Hercules impact

I've always felt that Makita puts more effort into the user experience and quality than the other brands. Your comments about the trigger back this. As for the smoke coming out of the Milwaukee, I'll continue to avoid their "brute force and ignorance" approach to tool design and stick with Big Blue.

Very interesting!

Perfect timing

How small is Philly Fix? I was thinking the impact was comparably small until he held it, and now it looks huge.

In my opinion the makita has one of the nicest impacts. It’s smooth and doesn’t have A wobble. My dewalt looks drunk next to my partner’s makita that’s years old. But I’ll never switch.

That was a cool comparison. I thought Dewalt would have have been stronger. I have Milwaukee driver tools but I have tools from Makita, Dewalt and Bosch. They’re all pretty good. I recently picked up a Bosch drywall gun and the beefy battery didn’t have any protective rubber on it. One decent drop and that’s gonna crack or chip. My Waulkee batteries are swathed in rubber. I always drop them. 👍

Best tools test chanel

I got the DCF850 when it came out and I love this impact. I recently got the m18 drill/impact combo and i love those too but the 850 is just so cool cause its so tiny but packs a punch

What adapters have you found to hold up the best with all these dyno runs?

You guys should do a video on impact torx and hex bits since they seem to break like crazy and I would love to find something that's not Snap On that can deal with being used.

It would be interesting to see a Festool impact vs these

For Philly tool- the easiest way to smoke your impact is to cover the fan motor with your hand. Ik its hard not to cover it when adding pressure but that will certainly kill it

cant say im too surprised. my Gen 4 M18 broke after less than 3 months on the job, driving tekk screws of all things. chuck froze up. would just keep on hammering but wouldnt spin. i just got my replacement back from the supply house, but at this rate, i might be wanting my stolen Gen 3 back.

Love my gen4 fuel its perfect

I had a gen 2 Milwaukee impact driver ( until Oak motors West pretty much stole my tools) that would take any lug nut off even on a pickup. can't imagine even more power

You should try the Makita XST01z oil impulse driver. It's not as powerful as a regular impact driver (it won't quite take off lug nuts for example), but it's powerful enough for everything I need one for, and it's so much quieter.

Could you please also test the Milwaukee 7/16" ?

I only buy the red wunz cuz they faster (actually because matching is more important than performance). But it's interesting seeing where everything lines up.

Wish you could test the DeWalt with the 5Ah Power Stack battery

As a Contractor/Carpenter/Deck Builder/Plumber/Electrician and HVAC Technician I will choose Makita over the others. The tool achieves a lot of Task and Way more efficient than Milwaukee and DeWalt. I'm not opting for Monstrous Power and Torque they do more Harm than good just like my Flex Quick Eject Brushless impact driver with 10ah Stack Lithium Battery had broken a lot of Bits and Fasteners because of it's Power and Torque, instead of I make a lot of money I spend money on buying replacement bits they break a lot, and the screws and lag bolts are breaking as well. In Makita 1600in/lbs is enough for the Majority of Task. And I love the Speed Selector switch with a push of a button right beside the trigger, other selection is Tapper mode #1 and #2 and The Auto Mode are very efficient. I have gotten the new release Makita with a halo light in it The TD-173 it's awesome!.it's got selections IF you want brighter lights or Dim light or turn the light off it's great! Otherwise My Makita XGT40V TD-002G Japan made impact driver is fantastic! IP-56 Rated and with DST (Dual Spring Tension) I love it! Very Reliable! Also the Hikoki 36V WH36DC as well.

You guys should see if you could get your hands on king canada impact

I have both of the Makitas you tested and use them for work(service plumber). They are both very good but yes, the Japanese version is a little nicer and definitely worth it. All of the JDM Makita tools are nicer, you should buy those models if you can.

Price is now the defining factor. I have seen the DCF845 go for $199 in a kit compared to $398 for the DCF 850 in a kit at Home Depot.

Makita is the best for driving screws accurate the feel is amazing its Almost like it knows what you want cabinet work👍👍👍👍👍👍👍💯 I have the 3 speed 14 model and it's been flawless for 5 years I use it daily paired with the batteries I made

I've got the DCF850 (thanks to your video about it). I never use it in mode 3 cuz mode 2 is more than fast enough. Definitely don't see much use in a faster but less powerful one that's also a little bigger.

Need to test which driver lets out the best smelling magic smoke when it dies

Would you be willing to include the Parkside Performance PDSSAP 20-Li B3 in your tests? It is a little beast and at a price that is reasonable for hobbyists. But it has to be the B3 version, because the B2 had some faults. Thank you in advance for your reply.

Did anyone else notice the Philly keeping a gloved hand over the air holes? That alone could lead to a smoked a motor.

I know you guys are testing the large lags for science, but it cracks me up watching people drive those with an impact driver instead of a drill driver or an impact wrench.

got the fuel gem4 love it, got the 16t makita love it more, yet my always go to is my metao hpt impact...just feels good all day while workimg.

Count me in on the purple Makita.

The thing with the smoke coming out from what seems to be the motor could also be some manufacturing leftovers on the motor coils. Bosch also has this "issue" with their drills and after a few times heating up the smoking stopps and the tool works normal. But even if it is so, its not a great thing to see the tool smoking.... Also can you test the Bosch 18V-150C. A german test channel tested it and it was the strongest contender with 80nm soft.

HF just dropped a new brushless Hercules driver, claiming 2100 in/lbs. I'd be interested to see how it stacks against the DeWalts and Makitas.

Hi, what manufacturer and model of impact sockets are used in the test Milwaukee 8:26 ?

Can we give the gen 2 and 3 m12 impact drivers throw in the dewalt 12v impact drivers?

Will we get the metabo hpt wh36dc bolt in a video soon?

would like to see the new 845 tested with a powerstack 5ah battery, would like to see if it makes a big difference being a new tool

I noticed you made a comment on reverse torque being not as important. I am an automotive technician and that is the spec I am paying the most attention to. :)

I am 100% ready to pick up that 850 with a power stack battery and take my old 887 and do a ⅜" anvil swap!

Once again I am asking for the new Bauer Brushless impacts to be Dyno tested!

Which bit adaptors are living through these tests? That's what is fascinating me.

The Japanese Makita impact drivers take a different but to the rest of the world. There's is a 13mm bottom compared to the rest of the world which is 9mm. Makita actually make a piece where you can fit it into the collet of the Japanese impact driver. It's part number Makita A-44672 which can convert the Japanese impact to take ordinary driver bits

It would have been interesting to see how the 845 stacks up to the 887.

Sick of wait for Makita Japan model to arrive in the U.S.😂 I going with my 1st Milwaukee tool!😮

I have one of the early made in Japan brushless models, I can’t remember the number right off but I’ve had it probably going on 7 years if not longer and it still kicks ass. I use it daily for electrical and quite often for mechanical work. I have newer more powerful impact drivers several Milwaukee a Couple dewalt some hitachi and I still find myself using the makita one because it’s so small and light but it has plenty of power still also. It will take lugnuts off my vehicles no problem. Pound for pound I’ll take my old makita any day.

I’d love to see DCF845 vs DCF840

So just how much smoother is the 845 vs. the 850? I'm in the Dewalt ecosystem, but have always been attracted to Makita for the smoothness of their tools. Is the 845 really that close to the Makita or just "not as bad as the 850 or old 887"?

So my dad got me the Dewalt DCF 840. I haven’t seen many or any videos on it.

That Makita has already been replaced, the TD172 has now been updated to the TD173. The main difference seems to be user interface only though.

Any chance you can drive a lag bolt with them for fuzzies? I know it’s not scientific or perceive in any way but it is what they are designed to do.

Is there a good method/test setup to measure single blows on an impact driver? Torque/impact?

mastercraft, the in house brand of canadian tire up here in the north, has a newer brushless impact driver claiming 2800 in/lbs. If you plan to keep doing these I'd be interested to see if those claims are legit as that's pretty significantly higher than big brands for a lot less money.

I wonder how the brushless Bauer compares to the brushed

Interestingly Hercules just released their new brushless 1/4" driver, advertising 2,200 in-lb... I wonder how that will compare.

Please do a dyno of china brand like dong cheng, dca, dck, worx etc...