I am aware the CS 1.0 menu UI isn't the WON version but I forgot to mention I couldn't get that to work, (it would still look the same as won hl so I'm not wrong on that) And yes CS2 release is bad I am not trying to diminish or excuse it

Can we just admire that nade throw; 5:55

i love how source bugs are alot of the ones people were speaking on CS2. going off the map,bad hitbox,no new content,less maps.

I have a question. Why should we care that previous games were released in a half-baked state? Valve could learn from past experiences and release the game with full content and fewer bugs. Low standards of gamers and stockholm syndrome toward game companies will never stop baffling me.

The scoreboard/UI issue is probably because you're using the Steam version of Half-Life as a base, CS 1.0 was intended for the WON version.

I mean if we compare csgo and cs2, csgo was really really bad when it came out but now it's perfect (rip csgo), and if we follow the same logic I believe that cs2 is gonna be better than csgo, we just need to have faith on Valve, and let em cook, like just look how much updates they've been doing to fix this and that (and sometimes breaking others things at the same time), let's just trust them, I mean there is nothing we can do except waiting for them to finish and polish this masterpiece.

CSCZ 1.0 retail is interesting, no HD models for the hands and guns yet but it's available for deleted scenes. And gun balance was everywhere.

2:50 DOOR STUCK

I didn't got access to the beta, so I practically play this game for a month and I like it. I feel like I am the only one enjoying cs2. It has issues obviously, but it runs smooth, feels good, the headshots are quite satisfying. I knew that there will be patches and improvements for months to come, I don't get what people were expecting.

10:59 Well i understand your point, but i also understand why valve would want to release cs2 as soon as possible. For example, when cs2 was still in beta, many players gave it a shot, didint like it and switched back to csgo, not giving full feedback on what needs to be change, what is good etc. From developers perspective without feedback it would be hard to perfect the game, but when players were forced to play cs2 instead of csgo, first they will be very unhappy. Thats a good thing, because if people are unhappy and frustrated they will go on rants about why it sucks etc, something like feedback. With all of these new information it is easier for the developers to fix bugs and develop the game further. Another thing popping into my mind is that if they would keep csgo and simultaneously have cs2, they would have twice as mach work to put in, because if they would focus fully on cs2 and updating it, leaving csgo a bit in the back the players that play csgo would be frustrated about not getting new content / not fixing bugs quick enough. So to summarize everything i said, it just simpler for the developers to replace csgo with cs2 and commit fully into fixing and making cs2 better.

Old CS 1.6 maps in CS:Source: "eh copypasting of maps game bad" Not even 50% of maps from CS:GO, while only 3 of which are fully overhauled for CS2: "New maps on the new engine looK so gooD!!!!! It looks so promising!!!!" Dude you are inhaling so much copium it's crazy, go touch grass, CS2 is bad.

Honestly all the bugs in cs2 right now aren’t nearly as bad as things that happened in Global offensive through its lifespan we had: Ts on train being able to ride a pigeon into the skybox, Olofboost during a major, a driver issue wher you could TURN OFF SMOKES, the bomb falling off of both vertigo and that one payback/bravo era map seaside or whatever it was called and the cts just hiding for the rest of the round, cache having a ton of unintentional boosts , nuke having sound issues, the ump having a multi year reign of terror, whatever the hell the making the Krieg and Aug cheap was, yeah that game had its issues too

I was really waiting for your another vid

cs is a very hard game to nail at release. everything has to be perfect since its so competetive.

I'm pretty sure Half Life 2 Collectors Edition includes the (kinda) day 1 version of CS source, as well as the day 1 release of hl2 and hl source

God, the CS community is so frustrating when it comes to any change whatsoever

Cs2 Is a great game it saved me from my addiction to csgo, after 4k hours i can finally do some real stuff like hanging out with my depression ty valve

Just because previous titles had a rough launch that does not mean we have to repeat the same mistake years later. Honestly CS2 would have benefited if they delay it.

10:50 I think they would if they could, but everything was horribly planned out as they needed to release the game early enough for the pro players to get started because of the Major...

That zm server we played in 1.6 when you were live is always empty now :'( rip

Another goated video from the goat

My main issue with the cs2 discourse is people who really genuinely expected that it would have every single thing from csgo’s final version in it on launch. It’s a new game on a new engine, you cannot reasonably expect it to have the 10+ years of content from the previous game which ran on a different engine straight away. It’s a logistical nightmare. people would find bugs in the old obscure content no one plays and the devs would have to spend so much time fixing for pairity more so than they already have had to and even then people who spent 10+ years playing the previous game are mad because it doesn’t “feel” exactly the same as if that isn’t a insane thing to want. You see this with fighting games too, where they get multiple releases over the years and are continually updated with dlc etc, and a large vocal minority is mad because the game has less stuff in it than the one that had been around for years and was built on. Cs2 is a new start to allow valve to realistically continue to support counter-strike without having to work on a shitty ass game engine from years ago. I’m sure it will end up having more in it than csgo ever had. Also, deeply funny that everyone complained about the cs2 beta being limited and said “let everyone just play it ffs” so valve did in fact do that. That said I miss retakes, I don’t get why the beautiful new Italy remake can’t be played in competitive if Office can, not like Competitive means shit with premiere existing anyway especially with the per map ranks (basically serving as a “learn the maps!” mode) so who cares.

Honey, i dont get the cs2 drama. Game is pretty fun

This gives me hope. Thank you

WHERE ARE THE WORKSHOP MAPS? WERE ARE CUSTOM MAPS? WHERE ARE SERVERS? WHERE ARE CUSTOM GAMEMODES?????

Cs2 is a prime example of valve not taking valve time when they really should have

i would argue that it doesnt feel great, it feels alright, but it does look great. there is some strange hitbox issues and dying behind walls/ weird subtick moments that are in fact the opposite of "what you see, is what you get" i do have faith that it will eventually get better

Bro your content is just too good. I like these lil silent breaks you place between topics. Classic mf right here

i love how cscz basically didnt happen lol

As an old guy playing CS since Beta 6.1 which has the era of the cool M4A1 with an ACOG scope and undetachable supressor, People in the newer version didnt realize that I also seen bad stuffs in the old CS v1.0. Characters are walking but you see them floating while they do splits. 🤣

very good video !!

Hey, how was the cereal though? Did freezing the milk work?

In the CS:S section you can get the 2004 version if you look up the Half Life 2 collections cd iirc it includes CS:S

And still the thumb on galil scout and sg552 is pointing out an 9:34 there there is a gap while holding the scout

You can get the CSS day 1 version from the half life 2 day one package it comes with half life source hl2 and CSS all first release

there was a beta before even the first beta, it was for quake 3 called URBAN ASSAULT. The project switched to the Half Life engine (a modified quake 2 engine) due to how it had breakable glass. I'm not even sure if a full map was made, I think it was more just a concept at that point.

Where could you download the pod bot for cs 1.0?

I don't mind it replacing CSGO honestly i think it was the right choise,the one and only problem i find with CS2's release was the fact that it was rushed to release. Seriously if this baby stood like a few more months in beta and the devs ironed out as many issues as possible when it got released it would've been rlly good,good enough that ppl would ignore the few issues it would inevitably had left and they'd be fixed soon after. But as it was rushed in time for new competitions and such it released with ALOT of issues which shouldn't have happened. I also think ppl exagerate alot too cuz some things are not as bad and Valve does release updates for the game daily so issues are blown pout of proportions and also fixed almost instantly so ppl should just shut up and go outside for a couple of days,most likely by the time they're back the game is fixed and they also got some sunlight XD

I played loads of Counter Strike Source. Not sure what's happening in your video with the headshots - I've never encountered any issues with them. In fact, CS S is known for being headshot-centric, due to the head hitbox being bigger than in other CS entries, which makes going for the head even more crucial than in other entries.

Sick video dude, you're like RebelTaxi but for topics I actually care about.

"you get what you see"

I still remember my childhood, playing old ver CSS that I bought from pirated CD games shop. Good old time

Finally someone said it, like cs:go had problems too

dude, sjdhs idk how but some time ago i bought a cs source disk and i got one of the first releases with some deleted maps and things like that, was somewhat curious, i remember there's was a blackhawk map for bomb gamemode and was kinda fun but it looked like a really early map or fanmade map, i gotta try to find it someday

Did you know that you could load Half-life 1 map in CS1.0? Cause you are playing the mod version for Half-life. There is all the Half-life map and you could found the suit battery charger but it's icon was a scientist screaming maybe just a place holder.

The title is a valid point, but you'd think if you're continuing something onwards, you'd learn from the mistakes of the past.

Developers, developers, developers, develop!!!

CS2 has multi billion dollar company behind it, no excuse this time

I kinda like cs2, gotta give them time to see if they get their sht together tho

9:37 you say there wasnt bugs but there was a fuckload? I mean for years the community had a saying where you would get "csgo'd" where the bullets just would not hit anyone

you can get the older versions of CSS off of the disk versions

Animations in CSGO beta 🥶🥶🥶

The main problem with unfinished cs2 is that they force you to play, you can’t play csgo which was almost perfect

there is a thread on HLTV about cs:go when it released. Almost all complaints from cs2 are interchangeable with complaints from that

But why did they remove csgo servers suport without all teh gamemodes and maps i cs2

solid video

I wouldn't mind CS2's problems as much if they didn't make it replace CSGO. It feels more like a shitty update for CSGO than it's own new game. It feels like a shitty game release because it's not a real game release. All of the guns are the same, the same balancing, the same grenades(except for the smoke), it doesn't actually feel like its own game. They could have maybe added new guns, guns have changed in the last couple of decades, but not we have to protect people's precious skins, that's the real priority, not making the best possible sequel, no it's the skins that matters.

I recently started playing source again and i'm having the time of my life - no skin/market/season crap - no competitive ladder ingame - no horrible unranked matchmaking experience - custom maps - dedicated servers - rock solid gameplay and predictable gun mechanics - really active community of mature players - welcoming atmosphere and almost no toxicity on public servers I'll play CS2 once community servers and cuistom maps are a thing, for now, it feels like a beta game.

call them jingling keys all you like, as a hammer user the physics are great for all kinda of things.

2:50 this is not an crash bug,just an door bug ok

Do i hear perfect dark ?

what i missed about cs is keyboard shorcuts. made me prefer the older cs than cs2 or even csgo.

5:54 the guy nading himself Before nadeking was invented

People already thinking about this: Cs 1.5 Cs 1.6 Cs:CZ = 1.7 Cs:S = 1.8 Cs:GO = 1.9 Aaaand CS2 = 2.0 Thats why cs2 is called cs2 cuz its version 2.0 of cs :D

The biggest problem with CS2 being as broken as all the other CS releases is that Valve became high-hundreds of billions of dollars worth company. You can forgive 2 students (CS 1.0) and a startup company with their second biggest project (CS:S), maybe a first billions worth of a company (CS:GO). But not the Valve as it is today. Unexcusable amount of not giving a heck and they first mentioned CS transition to S2 all the way back in 2017. Like seroiusly, where did all the hundreds of billions go to?

About csgo seriousness, i think the main menu theme and the trailer counts for it maybe? For the main menu theme i just like it more, and the trailer.. the music of it is INCREDIBLE, same for the gameplay one but.. VALVE PLEASE WHERE IS CS2 CINEMATIC TRAILER. Also i like both cs2 and csgo graphics.

wow this is an awesome video

"Think of it in the context of the time." Listen to your own words. You're obviously too young to have been around when any of these were released. So you can't think of it in context of the time.

new video yay!

Where is Condition Zero?

epic coldones greenscreen meme moment

4:37 No, it's not disappointing. At the time people just wanted a better looking CS and for the most part that's what they got. Nobody wanted some ground breaking sequel that changes the core gameplay.

Good content

I mean, no, you’re wrong about retail CS. It wasn’t bad. It was incredible, even during beta. Not perfect, as you pointed out, but not bad. And it did have spectating … weird to claim it did not.

So you dog on CS:S by being a remake of 1.6 but with less content, but CS2 is what, exactly, if not a straight remake of CS:GO with less content? This is so vexing to me, I still don't get why people were/are excited about CS2 at all, it's the exact same game except with a different HUD and with the "jiggling keys" being a new lighting engine and smokes effects.

clicking the video just to mention you could have stopped the title at "counter strike was never good"

10:46 memes in 2023 be like:

proper balance between two guns doesnt mean they have to be perfectly split 50-50 in usage from the playerbase.

I never asked for CS2, i paid 15$ to play CSGO i don't get why we can't have this now, this is so selfish and weird, CSGO was finally polished to perfection and here they are releasing CS2 which has bugs all over the place and bad hit boxes, they really pulled an overwatch 2 on us and it's just sad.

6:58 BRO IS THAT HARD RAIN FROM LEFT 4 DEAD 2?!

Update your milk

Suppose it just goes to show how good the fundamental gameplay loop is if Counter-Strike can persevere even with consistently shoddy releases.

Sure but old cs game did not banned people for having amd card and high dpi But hey you can chezt freely lmao

Part of the disappointment with CS2’s launch is that Valve could’ve changed that for once. Retakes, Community servers/maps, or even just demos for premier would’ve been nice

New update today felt like shitttttt

So many opinions here i strongly disagree with, omg lol. Like the colorful art-style it's got now makes it look more like a cartoon. I much prefer the early looks of CS:GO than the Fortnite variant we got now.

Y'all gotta know, CS:GO only became what people remember it as after 10 years of development since 2012. No one remembers what CS:GO was back when it first released, so people bashing CS2 for being bad on startup is a little insane. It still hasn't had that much time (considering it only released like last month), and the patches are quickly releasing and the state of the game will for sure get better with time.

The title is true.

release CS looks neat

I don't mean this in a rude way, but you can't really say the games were "never good at release" when you weren't alive/conscious at the time and just by reading patch notes and playing the games with today's context.

nice

Tbh i miss CSGO so much 😢

the only difference this time is that we cant olay global offensive while we wait for cs2 to be playable

CS (1.6) CS:CZ (1.7) CS:S (1.8) CS:GO (1.9) CS (2)

Valve had the opportunity to delay release for as long as it took to become good, and they chose to release a broken mess with less features. The older games doing the same thing is no excuse for annoying, bad desicions

if cs2 were its own separate game it would be perfect, I can't play cs anymore because of my old laptop not running that shit

We need ray tracing :D

I searched for five minutes and found it easily 6:16

Good video haha

I bet this will be the mew most played and most hated game for quite while