DHEA: The “Natural” Steroid

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In light of the recent videos made about the natural status of silver era bodybuilders, I have decided now is as good a time as ever to discuss the "Mother Hormone" DHEA! If you enjoy this type of content, make sure you like, comment, and subscribe! Enjoy!
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@robertriefer9312 2 ай бұрын

I remember when andro stack was legal and dhea was included in the stack of course it was an awesome stack that produced great gains until the FDA stepped in and took it off the shelves but you still can buy cigarettes and alcohol.

@svendays Ай бұрын

RIP andro stack. Burn in hell FDA.

@fc373cem Жыл бұрын

Great video clear and to the point! Thanks!

@ForgottenFitness Жыл бұрын

Glad you liked it!

@JohnnyYT91 Жыл бұрын

Rudolph another great video ! Kudos. Always looking forward to your next video. Great stuff.

@ForgottenFitness Жыл бұрын

Thank you, Josh!

@coolvegas69 Жыл бұрын

Excellent video (as always).

@ForgottenFitness Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@fredazcarate4818 Жыл бұрын

Rudolph thank you for producing a brilliant video lecture on DHEA. I appreciate you sharing your extensive knowledge on physical and muscle culture. I am looking forward to your next video presentation and lecture. 🧐🤔💯👌👊👍

@ForgottenFitness Жыл бұрын

Thank you, Mr. Azcarate! This one was very fun to make!

@rogeramezquita5685 3 ай бұрын

I’m 42 year old and it’s been a month taking DHEA and see very mild improvement especially my libido and also my endurance while training

@ZekeOwen24 21 күн бұрын

How many mg

@wilkbor Ай бұрын

Thanks for the video. I was feeling weak, fatigued, grumpy and lethargic for a long time. I went in and got an extensive blood test to see what might be wrong. There were a few markers that were way off. One of them, DHEA, was low, but considered within the normal range. (There is a range of level considered "normal" for each age group and gender.) About eight months later, I was retested and saw the DHEA levels had fallen further and were considered in the red. (I don't recall what level that was, but it was way below what was considered normal for someone my age, 58.) My doctor suggested 25 mg of a DHEA supplement daily, which was relatively inexpensive and over the counter. Within four or five days, I had noticed a huge improvement in energy, mood and libido. It was like my body was starting to wake up again. I started weight training again and started making some slow gains. My take: it's a great supplement if your body needs it. However, if you already have enough of it in your bloodstream, I don't think it will do much for you. Thanks again for the video.

@rifkyalmahdi4010 Ай бұрын

Great information that I need

@andrewmorton1728 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for this told My friend it works it does

@jawara.d.king-authorof7books 8 ай бұрын

Good lookin' out 😮

@Zawazuki Жыл бұрын

Damn, I'm debating on adding this to the stack.

@ForgottenFitness Жыл бұрын

Up to you, man! Be safe!

@danski6694 Жыл бұрын

How old are you? Take it no question if you are in your mid to late 30’s

@danski6694 Жыл бұрын

The key with DHEA is really waiting until your late 30’s or so to use it. I waited until my 40’s and it has been a solid supplement - especially at its general price point which is very low

@ForgottenFitness Жыл бұрын

Interesting take. Leroy Colbert argued it benefits even the youth, but I could see how it would be more effective for older individuals.

@danski6694 Жыл бұрын

@@ForgottenFitness I think a basic google search on it reveals that we make it, just like we make testosterone in our younger years. As we age, both productions decline. As a former user of “gear”, DHEA along of course with hard work has helped keep my physique pretty decent in my 40’s. It’s probably the best hormonal supplement one can take at that age. Creatine and amino acids being the best “nutritional” supplements.

@rickj895 Жыл бұрын

I agree I fell very good on it. How much do you take.

@danski6694 Жыл бұрын

@@rickj895 100 mg a day. I don’t diet much or really care about abs, but I get aggravated when i get a little too fluffy there. The steady DHEA i feel really keeps the belly from getting too big. There is also the 7-keto DHEA which I believe is more centered around fat loss, but I haven’t tried it yet. My buddy who is in his mid 40’s swears by it.

@gamebros4912 Жыл бұрын

I have been taking it for 3 months with a month off back on again and I can tell it works to bolster my work capacity in the gym at the very least.

@pgjc756 Жыл бұрын

great video. Do you happen to know if one is taking 7-Keto currently... is it the same as taking DHEA already, or is it totally different? Thanks!

@ForgottenFitness Жыл бұрын

7-Keto DHEA is different because it is not converted to either testosterone or estrogen. Honestly, I don’t see any reason to take it over standard DHEA

@pgjc756 Жыл бұрын

@@ForgottenFitness ok thanks!

@danski6694 Жыл бұрын

@@ForgottenFitnessit is supposed to have a lot more superior fat burning properties

@LTPottenger Жыл бұрын

Wow, had no idea Leroy Colbert was a big promoter of this stuff. I think it probably is a good thing for women to take especially after menopause.

@ForgottenFitness Жыл бұрын

It works for men too. It sort of acts like an additive to all the adrenal hormones.

@tradewinds122 Жыл бұрын

Very good presentation. Say, what are your thoughts on DIM as an estrogen blocker, is it effective?

@eidanchris 6 ай бұрын

Bump DIM breakdown would be great

@ailfawka6278 2 ай бұрын

DIM is not an estrogen blocker. It may help clean out bad estrogens, and it does block the androgen receptor, but it definitely doesn't block estrogens.

@Floridamanjiujitsu Ай бұрын

I knew Leroy personally, awesome guy! He’s the one that turned me on to high dose b vitamins.

@nicholasraso6742 Жыл бұрын

very awesome video

@ForgottenFitness Жыл бұрын

Thanks man!

@nicholasraso6742 Жыл бұрын

@@ForgottenFitness np

@elijahwilson1422 Жыл бұрын

Just be glad here you can get it over the counter here in the United States without a prescription, without going through the black market and cheaply. It made me eat a LOT and put on weight in the form of muscle and I recommend taking at least 100 miligrams a day. Though I did notice it gave me a bit of acne but not enough to be alarmed over

@theradicalaxe553 Жыл бұрын

I wonder why it gave you acne

@Ayan992 5 ай бұрын

@@theradicalaxe553his testosterone raised

@but1z Жыл бұрын

doug miller is another natty who swears by this, and yes I too consider it a "natural" supplement, great vid!

@ForgottenFitness Жыл бұрын

Haven’t heard his opinion on it before. I’ll definitely look into it. Thanks for sharing!

@michelrood2966 3 ай бұрын

Typical " natty" they'll claim natty as if its something honorable yet they take every kind of sarm, prohormone erc , BUT NO STEROIDS because that would be cheating lmao

@atompunk5575 Жыл бұрын

Its only $5 at our local Grocery shop, but after learning i could my hair, and gain insomnia, I'll probably buy a bottle just to try for a month

@ForgottenFitness Жыл бұрын

Yep! That’s what I would do too! Just test it.

@drip369 Жыл бұрын

I'm confused by your sentence regarding the hair but DHEA I've heard over the years can help you with falling asleep and staying asleep which isn't insomnia

@drip369 Жыл бұрын

If you are in your 20s take 20 mg, 30 take 30 mg, 40-40 etc. Something I've learned from the High Intensity Health channel

@ForgottenFitness Жыл бұрын

DHEA can cause insomnia in some people. That is an established possible side effect.

@EarthtoneEmar 8 ай бұрын

RIP to the greatest Leroy Colbert

@ForgottenFitness 6 ай бұрын

Indeed RIP

@skywind2520 2 ай бұрын

I'm 40 years old, 5 "11 and currently 214 lbs, probably around 20 percent body fat. Would 100 mg of DHEA be good for me? How would I find a good product to try?

@larrywang9537 Жыл бұрын

I have had experience taking DHEA, and I have had thyroid surgery before. Thyroid hormone pills were used to maintain thyroid function after operation. Later, when the thyroid function recovered, he stopped taking thyroid hormone and replaced it with a health drug to promote the secretion of thyroid hormone. Then there is DHEA. I was not aware of other uses of DHEA at the time. The purpose of taking DHEA is to promote the secretion of thyroid hormone and ensure the regular work and rest. During the period of taking it, I have strength training three times a week, which is a powerbuilding plan. What surprised me during that time was that I didn't calculate the calories in my diet. I ate a lot of meat and eggs every day, but my body fat decreased, my muscle latitude significantly increased, and my strength level improved significantly. My bench and square increased by 30 pounds. I'm not sure if this is the effect of DHEA, or if it was due to my regular schedule, sufficient sleep, and sufficient protein supplementation at that time. Now I have stopped taking DHEA according to the doctor's instructions, and my strength level continues to maintain, but my muscle latitude has shrunk a bit. In short, I suspect that DHEA is effective, but it should be about maximizing your muscle hypertrophy potential, rather than surpassing it like steroids.

@ForgottenFitness Жыл бұрын

Very interesting analysis. Thanks for sharing!

@toxicworld7211 16 күн бұрын

DHEA is a steroid. It is naturally produced by the body, but when you get it from an outside source it works almost identically (less potent or not) to other steroids, there's a reason it's banned in sports just like the others.

@rickj895 Жыл бұрын

I been taking DHEA for a year and felt much better younger youthfull helped my libeto . I been only taking 50 mg. I tried 75mg and it felt like the positive effects whent down. Someone said less is more with thid suplument. This summer i will try 100mg fingers crossed

@ForgottenFitness Жыл бұрын

Good luck!

@mrnice1295 6 ай бұрын

how long b4 it work in thr body some say 3 months to 6 month b4 you see are feel benefits is this true

@rickj895 6 ай бұрын

@@mrnice1295 I also gave it to college's at work it takes two weeks

@user-qb8fi4cj3z 6 ай бұрын

@CookieMonster_😅 side affect

@chrism5126 5 ай бұрын

@CookieMonster_ lol

@dioniziomorais8138 9 ай бұрын

Not releated to the topic of the video, but who is the man in the intro of your videos?

@thespy7795 5 ай бұрын

DHEA is VERY effective at raising Testosterone in Men over 30. 100 mgs Daily is MORE than enough to raise Test levels in Older men.

@AM-dl7ot 3 ай бұрын

I think the rule was 1mg=1 year. So if you are 35, you would need 35mg of DHEA.

@SoulDelSol Ай бұрын

I find testosterone raises testosterone

@showtimeman5673 Ай бұрын

Learn how precursors work please and thanks@SoulDelSol

@markalejandrox 2 ай бұрын

Pregnenolone, DHEA, and DIM are excellent supplements. However, appropriate dosages vary based on individual factors such as age, fitness level, and overall health.

@glennhoward9855 2 ай бұрын

I’m 19, should I?

@vandregamonal2261 Ай бұрын

⁠@@glennhoward9855definitely not.

@markalejandrox Ай бұрын

@@glennhoward9855 No. I was 37 when I started I'm now 43 . It's for older men . You should be fine at your age...

@Jdac333 13 күн бұрын

I took 50mg a day (a man, 32) and it raised my estrogen from 135 to 174 (U.K. units) and lowered my test from 17 to 15 (U.K. units)

@ForgottenFitness 13 күн бұрын

Interesting. There must be some more factors at play.

@RingWalkBoxingPodcast 3 ай бұрын

Im already starting to bald at age 44. I do know my ng is only 189 extremely low. Lethargic daily struggling to get thru every work day.

@94121sf 9 ай бұрын

Where DHEA goes after ingestion, from what my urologist said, cannot be directed to ONLY TESTOSTERONE but may backfire and feed the estrogen network?

@ForgottenFitness 9 ай бұрын

Yes, both. It’s the mother hormone to both estrogen and testosterone.

@thebiggestpanda1 9 ай бұрын

You make estrogen from testosterone. The reason why DHEA can increase estrogen is because DHEA can be converted to testosterone. If your body feels like it has too much testosterone, it will start aromatizing the extra testosterone into estrogen.

@MushroomMagpie Жыл бұрын

I'd it is banned, does that mean it can be tested for? How could they distinguish from endogenous or dietary sources?

@ForgottenFitness Жыл бұрын

Yes it can be tested for. You can’t get it from dietary sources as far as I know. It is a hormone produced by the body, just like Testosterone, Estrogen, and DHT

@satchycollins3985 Жыл бұрын

Interesting

@ForgottenFitness Жыл бұрын

Sure is!

@hectoradriangutierrezpalac4466 Жыл бұрын

Can I take DHEA in 20s, I got 25mg but I don't really know if its safe in 20s (Im 26 yo)

@ForgottenFitness Жыл бұрын

Absolutely is safe to take that dose!

@Carlos-od7jr Жыл бұрын

My biggest thing is blood pressure and baldness

@RingWalkBoxingPodcast 3 ай бұрын

I wonder was this the "secret ingredient " for Evander Holyfield 🥊🤣

@Carlos-od7jr 3 ай бұрын

@@RingWalkBoxingPodcast Nah it was testosterone

@JohnGrove310 3 ай бұрын

How long do you take it?

@jks5202 7 ай бұрын

Do i need an estrogen blocker? So yes when? In what dose of DHEA should i consider taking a estrogen blocker and are there possible side effects of taking them together?

@ForgottenFitness 6 ай бұрын

No I don’t think it’s necessary

@jks5202 6 ай бұрын

@@ForgottenFitness okay thanks for responding x

@jankowalski1445 5 ай бұрын

Anything above physiological doses (10-15mg) can turn into estrogen. Check your levels if you want experiment with larger amounts.

@jks5202 5 ай бұрын

@@jankowalski1445 okay thankyou man!

@charlesterrizzi8311 2 ай бұрын

Get it tested if you want, I do

@dansmith9724 9 күн бұрын

It classified as an anabolic steroid and illegal without a prescription in Australia. Such a BS law.

@charleswesesky747 4 ай бұрын

Do all those Athletic Associations also have a ban on Marijuana use?

@bgoodorhell4u 2 ай бұрын

Good question… and alcohol, tobacco

@JoseRamirez-ql1on Ай бұрын

This may aggravate or activate Gynomode

@viveviveka2651 Жыл бұрын

The ban might have more to do with dangers, popularity, and false positives for other drugs or hormones.

@ForgottenFitness Жыл бұрын

Very possible. It’s hard to say though. If you go on Google scholar, there are very few articles looking at the sports performance side of DHEA

@ailfawka6278 2 ай бұрын

Trying to find data on whether or not DHEA supplement can cause something like suppression in the testicles and or adrenal gland is a bit of a dead zone. You'd think this type of data would be easier to obtain considering its an external hormone treatment, and this should be the first thing ine would be worried about? Eg. If we go on trt, we risk being stuck on it for life. Could dhea offer the same risks, or not?

@vanillacreem816 26 күн бұрын

If anyone is worried about hair loss when taking this, ask your doctor to put you on Finasteride. It will protect your hair and also your prostate.

@elijahwilson1422 Жыл бұрын

It's certainly more natural than Trenbolone.

@EtienneLeBoeuf 27 күн бұрын

I went from 334 to 960 in around 3 months. All natural no TRT. This book should be essential reading for all men. Written by a 50s guy with natural T levels of a 20s guy Complete guide to testosterone by james Francis

@Sadrul-Amin 11 ай бұрын

Does Dhea stop natural production of Testosterone in the body after taking it?

@ForgottenFitness 11 ай бұрын

No, it does not suppress testosterone levels.

@UberBleMusic 9 ай бұрын

@@ForgottenFitness If you take it for a while and then stop, does your body stop producing it?

@gabriel1095 4 ай бұрын

@@UberBleMusicno

@raulquintanilla8718 9 ай бұрын

Any good company for this supplement?

@davejones3878 Ай бұрын

Life Extension has a good reputation. Cheap in health food stores and internet.

@showtimeman5673 Ай бұрын

Walgreens brand

@ginoperez5728 4 ай бұрын

Dhea works better on older adults!!

@nicomartin4325 9 ай бұрын

I’m 19 taking 25 mg is this beneficial or affecting me negatively? Also, I am wondering when is the best time to take it?

@Massageandbodywork 9 ай бұрын

Do not take DHEA without testing your levels with a physician. You may not need it

@vinceyoung5912 9 ай бұрын

You’re 19!

@David-ot9tr 8 ай бұрын

What dosage do you recommend?

@ForgottenFitness 6 ай бұрын

I would say 50mg. 25 in morning and 25 at night just test your tolerance

@s.t.jensen198 Жыл бұрын

Can you take DHEA and DIM at the same time?

@ForgottenFitness Жыл бұрын

No idea. I know about DIM, I just don’t know how it will interact with the effects of DHEA.

@sultanouda6583 Жыл бұрын

DIM only purpose is to balance and eliminate the bad estrogen “NOT” blocking the conversion of T to E like most ppl think and also been linked to androgens shut down. u might wanna dig cuz shutting off ur Androgen receptors is the absolute worst thing u could to to ur body

@gif24gt60 6 ай бұрын

What about calcium d glucarate?

@aaronthomas1843 3 ай бұрын

yes you can.....dhea and dim have two different pathways whose purpose are for two different outcomes. Dim is a weaker yet effective estrogen blocker or aromatase inhibitor. Dhea helps to increase testosterone, so yes you can and probably should take both....I do.

@RealNiceMike 7 ай бұрын

What’s the best company that makes DHEA?

@jasonpfeffer6750 7 ай бұрын

I think Pure Encapsulations is super solid

@ForgottenFitness 6 ай бұрын

This ^

@ForgottenFitness 6 ай бұрын

That being said, it’s something that’s rarely faked since it’s mass produced. Most companies are fine.

@SSN515 6 ай бұрын

I buy mine at Wegmans grocery store. House brand. It's about 5 bucks for a bottle of 100 , 25mg tables. I do 2 tablets (50mg) every morning at wake up as recommended by the pharmacist. I'm a 69 year old retired Marine. Still in kick but shape.

@wasimahmed1570 5 ай бұрын

@@SSN515 lucky u ...its banned in canada and can not get online even

@drip369 Жыл бұрын

100mg? That's too much. I buy 50mg tablets, and split them as I would need 30mg since I'm in my 30s. Something I learned from the High Intensity Health channel here on YT

@ForgottenFitness Жыл бұрын

No, it’s not too much. Many bodybuilders (over 40) that I have personally met take 100-150mg daily in addition to an estrogen blocker for muscular growth. The results are literally astounding. I can attest to that because I have witnessed it first hand on many occasions.

@tromrich3979 10 ай бұрын

@@ForgottenFitness would you know which estrogen blocker would be effective alongside DHEA? Thank you for an interesting video.

@faithlove5130 9 ай бұрын

Great video @@ForgottenFitness. BTW, what strogen blockers were they using? OTC supplements like DIM? Or prescription drugs? Been taking 50mg per day of DHEA and feels great, but I want to go up to 100mg and get the maximum anabolic effect from it as possible. What are your thoughts? What estrogen blockers and dosages were these people taking? Thanks!

@alandetroit1064 8 ай бұрын

100 mg and some DIM youll be fine

@alandetroit1064 8 ай бұрын

DIM@@tromrich3979

@jayfisher3359 5 ай бұрын

I take Pansterone. Pregnenalone acts as an aromateise inhibitor.

@markaguilera493 2 ай бұрын

How much? How often?

@jayfisher3359 2 ай бұрын

@@markaguilera493 2 drops a day on my wrist

@user-xh3lb1ov3t 7 ай бұрын

But high blood pressure and high cholesterol?

@ForgottenFitness 6 ай бұрын

I’m not a doctor and am not going to give any medical advice on here.

@brock8281 2 ай бұрын

Im 32 and i take 25mg dhea, but i cant tell a difference.

@showtimeman5673 Ай бұрын

Not enough at your age. 25 mgs is a starter dose for a 40 year old

@jankowalski1445 5 ай бұрын

With DHEA dosage above physiological it can turn into estrogen

@ForgottenFitness 5 ай бұрын

It can, but it mostly turns to testosterone if you are working out.

@jankowalski1445 5 ай бұрын

How working out increase amount of dhea that turn to test?

@showtimeman5673 Ай бұрын

@@jankowalski1445because when resitistance training your signaling changes. A leg workout increases test 100 percent of the time

@peamutbubber Жыл бұрын

Vitamin D is in food so not comparable to DHEA which is a lab synthesised steroid

@ForgottenFitness Жыл бұрын

I mean, vitamin D and DHEA are lab synthesized as supplements and both hormones. Technically both are steroids.

@alwinsauer6857 Жыл бұрын

No interest. Look at the side effects.

@ForgottenFitness Жыл бұрын

Understandable

@danski6694 Жыл бұрын

The bad side effects are really only applicable if you are under 40 years old. You don’t produce it as much a lot like testosterone. If you take it earlier while you still naturally produce it, you get the negative side effects plain and simple

@gabriel1095 4 ай бұрын

Side effects are bullshit. Dhea has changed my life

@nicotico77 4 ай бұрын

@@gabriel1095 share more about your history bro

@showtimeman5673 Ай бұрын

@gabriel1095 same changed my life!! From male issues to adrenal fatigue all I have added is the dhea and everything has changed for the better