this is an end game build, it's not a leveling build. Only use this set up when you have the stats from planner. Otherwise you can use the more DR version in the tabs from the planner.

probably, but would take longer to kill stuff, starless is a huge gamechanger with that 40x multiplier to all your attacks; no other aspect has that much raw power. Only reason you'd swap to another ring is for more attackspeed if you really wanted to reduce cdr with iceblades faster.

honestly not sure, people say vuln is better than close, because of multipliers but unsure on the math if this is true. (there's been some videos by other creators about this debate, but idk honestly. Blizzard math and tooltips are just wonky.) Vuln dmg however does allow you to benefit by allowing you to not always have to stay in melee range to deal bonus dmg. So take your pick whether or not you want close dmg or vuln.

In the 2nd phase, If you stagger her right before she spawns them, and then you dps her to 75% hp, she’ll skip the first blood middle mechanic. Keep staggering and dps and she won’t be able to spawn any.

@@Emilyheartz987 oh didn't know that. That's a really useful tip. Thanks!!!

Currently Vyrs mastery is bugged. Tool tip states it increases dmg by x % to shock skills. But in game, it actually increases all your damage by x%. Thus giving you much more damage, plus DR%. Ancient flame, obviously is just raw attack speed, despite esus ferocity not giving us anything since the dmg portion only applies to fire dmg, we are just using esus ferocity, because the ancient flame aspect still works to give us attackspeed. TLDR on difference. When you reach sufficient Attackspeed on gear 50% or so, you'll do more damage with vyrs ( you are using a bug to do more damage). If you dont have enough AS, your iceblades wont be attacking fast enough to reduce your Cooldowns. You will need a lot more cdr % to compensate as well. Ancient flame is just better to use early on, until sufficient gear is obtained. The Raw attackspeed allows you to get started earlier, your iceblades will attack pretty fast and can reduce your cdr quicker.

​@Emilyheartz987 Thanks for the detail reply! For bossing (lilith) could we just take the pit version and swap out pants or will we need to play with the standard version

There’s not enough points to spare. Chill rank from that passive node don’t stagger boss faster. You can test this at the dummy in kyov. You need 2 ranks of basic skills to unlock the next tree, that’s why it’s 2 ranks in fire bolt to unlock the next tree. Frost bolt on enchant isn’t necessary. If you were serious about wanting to stagger bosses faster, you’d use frost nova enchant. But we need more boss damage

@@Emilyheartz987 To apply point of Stagger to a boss, use abilities that apply any of the following: Slow Immobilize Stun Knockback Knockdown Taunt Fear Tether Daze Chill Freeze The amount of Stagger that is applied depends on what type of CC it is, how long the duration of the CC is and, if applicable, how strong the CC is (for example a 30% slow will apply more Stagger than a 10% slow if they have the same duration). As there are many different abilities for each class and it would simply take too long to list them all, suffice to say that Bigger CC = Bigger Stagger. This is taken from the designers of maxroll and vault. its how you place your points. but okay

@@Emilyheartz987 I understand sorc main since launch even with the 2 points into fire bolt your already applying fire with the conj. so the enchant slot can hold more value.. just gave an idea,

@@kenc5199 the increase chill passive does not increase the stagger on bosses I already stated this. It can be tested on a dummy in kyov.

@@kenc5199 the 2 points in fire bolt is to unlock the next tree, I’m not using fire bolt enchant, your comment isn’t making sense since I’m not using it in the first place.

If you have a really good ring with 2x GA crit and AS; with Intel and max rolls on the tempering(close/vuln dmg + resource gen/unstable cooldown. Would it be worth swapping from starless. It’s difficult to compete against having a 40x multiplier to everything; not to mention the mana cost reduction; no other aspect comes close to that much raw power. (Perhaps stormswell now that it’s supposedly fixed?) but even then, stormswell would only buff your vuln dmg and not all of your dmg. Literally the only thing you’re getting is more attack speed as the sol reason you’d want to use a different ring besides starless. IMO only swap out starless if you have a gg ring with the stats I mentioned above.

@@Emilyheartz987 nice, will test today to see if makes a real difference, my ring has a GA atk speed

yes, its just a bit slower kill time

You would really need A LOT of cdr to make up for not having flame shield duration on pants. Like GA 3x on cdr for amulet, ring, offhand and shako.

Doesn’t matter where you place your aspects they give the same value. (Only aspects on amulets and 2h will have higher values respectively)

@Emilyheartz987 I ment using accelerating instead of conceited, on gloves, along with esu on offhand. The difference between more cast speed, vs the dmg buff conc gives.

@@baldis12 you lose too much dmg, yeah you attack faster but your punches are weaker. Only real benefit would be to stagger faster and have ice blades attack faster for more cdr uptime.

No, I wish haha 😆; planner is just a dream list for stats you want to make the build work. You definitely want as much cdr possible, and flame shield, and duration, and some attack speed

@@Emilyheartz987 hehe i see. Do you know if any sorcs have tried doing the rogue crit damage tempering, that barbs do?