I'm in a quite dark place in my life, mostly because of my immaturity to face my own demons, and this channel has been one of the things that keep me reminded that life can be quite extraordinarily meaningful and graceful. Thank you for flourishing! Both of you!

So effin beautiful. Love it when they speak about how having a "useless" education, a humanistic education, is actually deeply "useful", and how it saturates our lives with meaning: "The buildings that have been built with utility in mind soon get demolished since technology changes and repairs need to be made. But, buildings built without utility in mind but with beauty in mind keep getting used for new purposes. People want to use them for art galleries, homes, or shops, etc.. So the most useless things are actually the most useful."

Learned a trade to be useful, became a hippie to be useless. In my 70s and still loving life. Thanks John, your presence adds to the narrative.

Please continue the conversation with Sebastian. Loved it.

This conversation was a lovely Christmas gift , thank you x seek ye first the kingdom of God, I agree

Fabulous conversation gents! Thank you both 🙏

I've been following for a while, especially appreciate the Psyche Pathology and Well Being series you have ongoing, but these other conversations are very enlightening. Love the work you're doing and the attention to wisdom you are directing your viewers toward.

Thank you both enriching my life.

Sweet. Busy getting my foot in the door and wrapping up an accelerated semester of official education. Can’t wait to hear your ideas for reform, and have time to learn here at a slower pace again.

Thanks Sebastian and John!

I almost missed this. Live that is. John your enthusiasm is inspiring. Thank You for your efforts. xoxo

Live the idea that logos and agape are intertwined in their highest form. That really landed as I've been wrestling with integrating more dialogos in my everyday approach to life, and this just added the beauty and aesthetics to the process. Thank you as always ❤

Thanks for your deeply impressive conversation.

"And now good-morrow to our waking souls" 😊

28:45 goosebumps

Society is splitting and it's wonderful to watch. Praise God for his beautiful plan.

With regards to understanding the meaning crisis, I found this conversation extremely pertinent 🙏

This was Awsome. Your always awakening us up from so many dogmatic slumbers John. Sebastian was marvelous, seeing better now your points of the neoplatonism as a language tool to bring unity/religio. Possibly helping the divided brain of our signs/ signifiers power games dividing us.

The comments around the present state of universities and education were heartbreakingly illuminating

Thankyou both! I'm imagining a conversation between you two and one of the contemplative monks from New Camaldoli Hermitage or the Cistercian Monastery at Snow Mass, or some deep, quiet Carmelite nun...not for their 'religion' but for their wide wisdom... Thanks again.

In my opinion; this one is a good one.

The inter-personal relatedness you discuss reminds me of the Sanskrit dictum, So Hum which roughly translates as 'You Are, Therefore I Am'

wow ❤

learning happens on your own "in the stacks" "Winsor (1880), and later Shores (1935) and Branscomb (1940), argued for the library-college concept. All three believed that lecturing to students in a large lecture hall was damaging to the education of students. Instead, they believed that the students should be taught in the library by both the professor and the librarian. Rather than lecturing to the students, the librarian-professor team would give the students problems and then require them to find the answers on their own in the stacks of the library. This clearly is a use of active learning by librarians that not only teaches library skills but also makes the library central to educating students on campus."

with some cultural tweaks the west could be on the cusp of unimagined distributed cognition inclusiveness in the best way possible. There is wonderful work being done here!

The one thing that makes it painful to listen to this conversation is the question : will this ever percolate into society? Will these realisations and wisdom remain in the sphere of the few who would tune into it anyway.

Are the studies on collective reasoning all contained in “the Enigma of Reason”? Or can you please point to that research here in the show notes…. ❤️🙏🏽📖 Every gardener knows that a vegie patch full of “useless” flowers increases your productivity hugely, and many, many “weeds” are medicine.

person: any animal that possesses a face, since the term “person” originates from the Latin noun (yet, originally from a Greek word) “persona”,referring to a mask worn by actors in European theatrical plays. It is logical to assume that meaning of the word VERY soon transformed from “mask” to “character in a play” to “an individual”, since that is how the word has been used since ancient times. The fact that we recognize our domestic pets having variegated PERSONALITIES, confirms that they are, by definition, PERSONS. Therefore, when advocates for abortion claim that an embryo is NOT a person, they are technically correct, since it has yet to develop a recognizable face, yet that is insufficient justification for destroying its life (see the footnote in the Prologue of “A Final Instruction Sheet for Humanity”).

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