38:16 - Elizabeth talking about describing her first experience with God/the really Real, “I love words but my sentences were like richiching off of the memory.” Those words of metaphor landed perfectly. Visceral. I get you too. Bravo. 🙌🪨

1:02:07 to 1:02:55 - well said ! I encountered that "Love" by "accident" in the middle of a dirt field by my self and it was overwhelming, Loving in an exponential way and permanently transformative... Similar to an Acts 9 moment - Saul to Paul

I think for love, East and West are same. It is like Fats Waller - Ain't Misbehavin' - Stormy Weather (1943) ^^ The KZfaq video URL is omitted, if you would like to listen the music and performance, please search for by Fats Waller - Ain't Misbehavin'

26:44 when people say postmodernism debunks itself

35:14 remembering! 🌚☄️❤️💫

33:09 edensjoy! 🌚☄️❤️💫

51:53 and the Bene Gesserits go wild!

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What I wouldn't give to have you as a professor when I was 18. You are doing important work, Dr. Vervaeke.

Wow looks like all listeners are seasoned in philosophy, I’m new and feel like I should take up a course tomorrow…

John, you've been a great inspiration. I've written three books about ideas that intertwined with yours and of course, with the whole Tradition. I always go back to you to have a dialogue, contemplate and to get challenged. It's deeply meaningful to me. It's Beautiful. You've been of few people around the world who bring this to the relevance. I'm thankful. Be well. Greetings from the Czech Republic.

I'm currently re-watching this series after 2 years (I think). I came across you, John, after watching the biblical series from JP. I can't express how much this series has helped me to get a better grip and perspective on (my) life and how it has opened me up to other ways of thinking and being. Thank you!

Lucifer and the fallen angels are true in their accusation of God only if God didnt know who he was. The father poses to historical Christians that his willingness to send his only beggoten son was his creedence of alegence to the trinity. However, when there is a war in heaven, its because Lucifer is confused about his position with God, he has reasons beyond doubt I believe to take God at his word and to believe that he is good and will always provide. I think our identities would have come through in heaven eventually when God could see that his angels were ready and worthy for the next step. Which i conclude would of being the creation of woman on the bases that they could prove that God was the centeral focal point of the worship of heaven. I think the Father was disguising from the view of Lucifer a plan for woman but he was blinded by his desire for power which over the expanse of space he served God faithfully seen Jesus as a barrier to the power he believed was meet for him according to the figure God had clothed him to be. I think the sense of disguse like you said John the covering of holyness or the devine was the father attempting to prove the worthyness of his creation to be given the next thing which I believe would of been woman and in fact everthing that is in creation I personally believe is the sum of his everlasting desire no matter which way we came through I think we would of still being ourselfs. I think the father died first, the mother was actually the original ark for Lucifer had he just persuvered perhaps, one can only submise. Which is to say that we are going back to God, just in the wrong order. Jesus sees both the lambs and goats are both outside the camp because he now understands how his father died in the first place. I say beauty is to love the death in us all so the life can make sense of itself automatically. I take off my shoes in a place where the transendent is telling me I am standing on holy ground, I feel a fire like the one that drew the attention of Moses the burning bush, I hear the voice of God saying you are about to encounter Moses, I can sense there are apostles behind Moses and that the fire of the Holy Spirit is above their heads, Moses calls to me and asks, ask me anything and I shall grant it unto you, I pause and embody that which is, not that which is not, and I say, that we will meet again. I feel that Lucifer is coming and that he wants to take me out, I confront him, almost to say you fear me, I know it so I dare you to come against me. Not long after this interpersonal confrontaion, I lay as one asleep while wide awake, I say to Lucifer I am willing to take your place in the bottemless pit to take your punishment. I say in my spirit almost as if it was in unicen with Lucifer if you are willing to trade places just kiss my lips and it will be done, then comes an image of a goblen like figure in my minds eyes, I kiss his lips and the exchance is made. Their is deep hurt here for us both, he sees that prehaps he has gone too far, perhaps he sees that he had planted a get out of jail free card in me as a baby, no mother, abusive father, abusive household, he gets his escape goat, but at what cost? I say the answers are here. I love you all, I say you must take this and breath with the narrative, I bear all of the images in the bible, the worst of them and the least desirable so that I may bring my self to be in the place where the worst of them go. I seal the deal one cold night by commiting the unpardonable sin, audibly and with passion and zeal, as a mad man, that dosnt know his place or as one who does not understand. So I make my own sentece and kill my self forever. Then God proves his love for me as I returen to him in faith that the father I know, is more than the father I dont.

I AM that I AM What shape must I take for you to finally believe? To see only with your eyes is to see nothing at all. I'm the experience embedded in it all. I am dirt underfoot and the sweet scent in the air, I am the sounds of nature stirring around everywhere. I am the morning dew waking nature to her senses, I am the fire that cleanses and the water that quenches. I am that I am. I am the universe birthing to life, I am the first dawn and the last night. I am the sun that rises and the moon that sets, I am the stars you see at the edges of every galaxy you've met. I am Halley's comet and the aurora's lights, I am the one who brings hope late in the night. I am that I am. I am the first cry of a newborn and the last breath of a wrinkled man. I am the unbroken promises between myself and these lands. I am the tears in your eyes and the smile on your face, I am the one who forgives and will always offer my grace. What shape must I take for you to finally see That I am the embedded experience in every possibility.

I just read a book about the 8th century Xi'an stele in China which documents 150 years of early Christianity in the area - and I wondered if John will be heading for that on his Philosophical Silk Road journey. This artefact teaches us about the natural crossover between the way of the Way and the way of Christ and seems like a natural beginning/end of the PSR.

Thank goodness that you can alter the playback speed and slow down. You guys are talking so fast about such complex things. for a first time listener the pace you go at makes it really hard to catch and no time to sink in. Does the fact it’s a KZfaq discussion make you speed up? Oldfield’s the Sacred is more natural and runs at a more considered pace.

Wow

dhrupad singing can also put the singer in a flow state.

She is smart but lonely

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Yes more pls! 😊

Where is the fire in your belly?

IFS therapy: awkward, yet playful and awesome! I am reminded of doing this sort of thing with my psychotherapist a few years ago and noticing how ridiculous, absurd, and contemptuous it seemed in its various aspects. BUT I was game to seriously play along and use my imagination. The result was fascinating and insightful and curious and wonderful. And still I chuckle and shrug at the two seemingly contrary descriptions I give it - this especially comes across watching it here as an observer on KZfaq. Thanks John for putting yourself out there for all our sakes despite your reservations. You are very open and giving of yourself. Thank you Seth for giving your thoughtful guidance. Hugs all 'round.

What does your friend Christopher MasterPietro (apologies for any misspelling) mean by, “asking interested questions instead of interesting questions”? -just a viewer that is in love with your work. Thank you sir.

His take on the Bronze Age collapse have been identified as coming from a lot of sensationalized accounts that don't stand up to scrutiny: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qZN6a7l4q62Vcps.htmlsi=mxBQjCOqygJ7nvYq

This was food for my heart and soul. Thank you both deeply, for being you and sharing this beautiful discussion.

May 5 is Children's day in Korea, thesedays less children found on street and amusement park. It is because population cliff is happening in Korea, many people should love harder! (joke ^^) I myself is not experienced deep love affairs^^ (with determined and decisive tone)

The videos Dr.Vervaeke created is to be watched more than one time and led out right way of life, his selection of topic is what I admire to be fan of this channel. The love is empathic way of expressing identity inside and it would be spiritually what we are and how we are human, it is hardly in daily life, but attitude only is okay to have then it would loosen the quarrel between different people. Not only love between man and woman, agape is metaphor for this and this is also good lesson to non-Christian people. This day, I watch this video again and reminded of spirituality is important. Practice is matter, so we live by.

1:05:15 Richard Dawkins are u there?

Thank you, John and Liz. I get as excited as you both do.

Love sliding past our consciousness indeed! Yet we betray our existence without it. Collective madness.

Om M g

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Any chance the video format may be coming to the Spotify modality?

13:30 doesn't the constriction of information flow(dissociation) between separate minds explain how the "one big mind" becomes "many minds"? The big mind can communicate with itself through all the physical laws of our universe, but small minds(lets use individual people for an example) have very high-bandwith pathways within a single brain to share information within that brain. That single brain can communicate with other brains, but it doesn't have such high information bandwidth, as the info that brains can take in from other brains is limited to what passes through their sensory organs rather than being directly neuronally connected. I feel it's a matter of fact that everything is one "big mind", and the illusion of separate minds is created by this constriction of information flow caused by the limited sense organs, which in turn leads to the formation of an ego: a piece of the "big mind" that mistakes itself for a separate mind because of it's dissociation from other parts. This same logic can be applied to separate parts of the mind that have less communication with other parts, or it can be applied to communities or nations. There is no qualitative difference between the different ways of separating mind, the only difference is in magnitude, and that is determined by the degree of information constriction between sections.

John, connect the “surprise and familiarity” from the 4 letter code to sell anything talk from Derek Thompson - Most Advanced and Yet Acceptable - MAYA - which to me leads to Sunyata. I can help you, if you let me.

John, my colleague Sumedha reached out to you. I think you won’t be disappointed in responding to her. Pls. Cheers brother.

It’s the other way around executive kings lead to wars wars justify the king.

Nations=gentile whatever it was, the people knew the difference between (divine) king vs inspired judge. ?God is the executive and doesn’t have an executive representative.

Moses spent 40 years raised in complete executive government of deity kings. Yet establishes no executive government. Confines deity connection to wisdom of juridical judgment.

Such a great talk, with lots of meat and bones. Now for something possibly silly, The feeling she got when seeing her child that was both surprised and familiar at the same time, I remember some Benny Hill episodes where something crazy would happen and the camera panned to his face and he gave a look of surprise and confusion at the same time. I think Mr Bean had the same look, probably overused the fourth wall.

The purpose of the king is to stabilize the world οικυμεν/civitas/πολιτυμα in time, empire. His humanity is inadequate to convey authority so he is transcended to god king, enhance the brute correctness of his decisions. Religion functions to create the liturgy justifying his Transcendant power to kill and know surely who to kill. Mosaic Christianity rejects both those foundations of his purpose to preserve order by preserving our fathers’ order 1) state leader as divine, 2) function of religion to create liturgy to ground state authority in each heart.

A new Table made from a hand without blood stains upon HIS hand. To come to have sincere conversations. Upon the New Table fresh!

Pop unto all my Heirs Hosts shared "i" AM Chinese. Pop a little Child born "i" 12-29-1976 Signature. Who will removed the scales from all Dragons eyes! So they may see WHO? Pop bring a scribes nor wise in China! Pop 12-29-1976 Signature. Interpret! Will know? Gratitude and Honor

Thank you pop! Ye already know? Need not to remind. Love THEE!

Thank you our Beautiful Elizabeth! Attending unto our OWN. Love you too my beautiful! Remind for many who am I beautiful? Share thy "i" AM beautiful!

Elizabeth, we should definitely talk!

Remember who said? If ye LOVE ME! LOVE YOU TOO!

What is? He is, yet is not, and yet...? Fill in the blank

Pop if silent! Yes, remember who keeps watch? Where else all thy eyes came from? Yes, who searches the Hearts and Minds? Remember all ye all have is shared! Why ye marvel?