Yea cause he was his son so the emotion was prolly him caring for Luke. Had it been someone else like Obi then vader's anger would help him. The type of emotion is what Matters to the sith I believe.

@@mnco5741It didn't help him in both fights against Obi-Wan, though; he mopped the floor with Vader. Only time Vader finally got him was because he allowed him to be struck down to become something else and let Luke fulfill his destiny.

Some emotions of the dark side like frustration and arrogance are very deadly, Vader lost thanks to it, and maul lost to obi wan and Ahsoka thanks to arrogance, in both cases we can say that too much dark side or that getting "consumed" by the dark side is actually an obstacle.

It takes focusing those emotions and being in control of them to be strong with the dark side. Kylo Ren was the best example of this. By being emotionally unbalanced he was made significantly weaker, just as I believe it made Vader weaker here.

Vader never fought Obi Wan, truly hating him. In episode 3 his eyes only turn yellow after he is already defeated, and in the Obi Wan series too, when he has the His helmet is cut, his eyes are also normal, turning yellow afterwards, he wasn't channeling all his power as he should. ​@@Undefined9

He was

Given the movie literally says that outright and we see it pretty clearly in Vader's actions throughout... Yeah. Can't really see any other explanation

I mean in ANH Vader had no qualms mentally destroying her daughter and engaging in a space aerial battle with his son and in the following movie he certainly didn't think twice when he chopped off Luke's arm

Conflicted about _killing,_ yes. But Vader was 100% in it to win it, bringing 100% of his power and essentially all his skill (aside from dedicated kill strokes, something that would have been difficult to land on Luke regardless) to bear.

Yeah, the way I see it is, Vader is trying to turn his son to the dark side, but he sees such a noble, loving, and determined nature in him that he can't help but respect, and it makes him feel proud of Luke despite himself. He already feels some love for Luke as both his son and one of the few remaining connections to his late wife. Eventually he doesn't feel like turning Luke to the dark side anymore, giving as an excuse that maybe he'll focus on Leia instead. However, this only redoubles Luke's anger, which might paradoxically be evidence of how much Luke's love of goodness and right is engrained in him; he's absolutely determined to prevent those he loves from being corrupted. So now Luke is gaining power in the fight by using his anger, which catches Vader off-guard by itself. But is this anger evidence that Luke is coming closer to the dark side, or is it evidence of his inconquerable determination to protect those he loves (Leia) from falling to the dark side? Furthermore, does Vader even want to turn him to the dark side if justice and compassion are such an integral part of his son? By destroying his son's love of good, is he essentially killing Luke himself? This confusion overwhelms Vader, crushing his commitment to the fight, making him physically weak. After Luke beats Vader in fight, but spares him and gives a final, resounding refusal of the dark side, both Vader and the emperor finally realize that there is just not enough darkness in Luke to ever be useful to the Empire. Having his life spared by Luke after the emperor kind of treated Vader like a tool over the years and most especially now, only deepens Vader's respect for Luke. So you can imagine what internal torture it produces to see Luke, his son and his only real connection to Padme at the moment, be slowly electrocuted by the emperor. But, he says to himself, I've always stood for the dark side and renounced the light. If I turn to the light now, I will have to acknowledge that I am a monster. If my life's work was the destruction of the light when in the end my destiny was to embrace it, then most of my life will have been devoted to making myself miserable in the end. Better to embrace the dark work I've devoted my life to. And if the darkness is my purpose, and Luke is so incorrigibly devoted to the light, then what is he to me but a hindrance to be destroyed? Luke, in a sense, is the light, so must be destroyed. But that thought brings Vader so little comfort as he watches the son he's now come to admire, whose goodness spared Vader's life, die like his mother did so many years ago. Eventually Vader is forced to conclude that Luke is worth something, and therefore the goodness that constitutes Luke must be worth something as well. The misery of facing his sins, which will inevitably come with embracing that light in his son, just does not compare to the misery of watching his son die a horrible death.

Also with grevious.

​@@In4inite_Anakin never foughy Grievous

​He and the 2 that upvoted him don't know star wars​@@angerami77

@@angerami77you have never seen clone wars

@@DaroZuo i did, Grievous and Anakin never fought PERSONALLY

100%. His intention was never to kill him, but instead to sway him towards the dark side. He ultimately wanted to rule side-by-side with him and overtake Sidious!

100%, it was the only part of Padme left (that Vader knew of) so he would of felt a shit ton of emotions going through their duel. But yea Vader would have crushed Luke if it was some other Jedi.

@@VadersOrder he was not angry at sidious he was frustrated with Luke not wanting to turn , him and palatine were competing to turn Luke because it would be too dangerous for either of them to 1 v 1 each other, they were at a stalemate, they needed Luke.

Vader still would've killed Luke if he didn't turn. Vader wasn't going to return to the light, and he couldn't let Luke leave as a Jedi. The only thing left was to fight. In the end, Vader still ended up on the ground with nowhere to go, and Luke seemed to be in a dominant position earlier in the fight anyway, pushing him back and kicking him down the stairs.

@@Rjbatz22567 This information comes from the novel "The Rise and Fall of Darth Vader!"

Exactly, Anakin was starting to resurface in Vader and he realized that Luke would be going down the same road he did. Plus Sideous wasn't going to just sit there and let Luke kill him

Exactly, he already knew Palpatine’s nature

Nah Vader was bringing his full might down onto luke

@@vintvarner16yes he would? 😭 the rule of two buddy

This is speculation from me but Vader could notice how similar this situation is when he defeated dooku and how the tables now had turned. Palpetine betrayed dooku then and palpetine would betray him now. At this moment vader/anakin saw the ultimate truth about the dark side(betrayel and backstabbing) his connection to the dark side could be shaken or even starting to break. together the conflict in himself about his son is a clusterfuck with emotions. Vader fought Luke with Anakin almost being in control again..

Not even with... ...*unlimited* power...? I'll see myself out

I mean, it IS the way of the Sith.

He did the same to maul and dooku

He did the same to maul and dooku

@@johnbabylon7626No, no you got a point. Get back in here.😂

Yeah, he had to have seen that Palpatine was trading him in for a newer apprentice just as he replaced Dooku and that Dooku was killed by his own hand. Even if Luke turning didn't see him dead, by the rule of two Palpatine could not let him live. But of course Anakin was in there too and his feelings were weakening Vader and while he too was willing to sacrifice himself, his desired outcome was to save his son from his hated master.

I may need to rewatch this film again. I have seen it like 30 times and never heard Vader giving Luke tips, like "don't lower your weapon". Is this for real?

Wisest comment I've seen this far.

@@uatu_the_watcher He said it was unwise to lower your defenses right before he attacked.

​@@uatu_the_watcher"It is unwise to lower your defenses!" Vader before striking Luke again, before the scene where Luke tries to dialogue with Vader again and him throwing his saber at him.

That’s because of the novelization, which gives a more in-depth view on what happens, Vader threatening Leía was just his final string, right after that, he let loose and listened to what the emperor said

I agree I hate it when they base the events on what a comic that came out 20 years later said

Yeah. That part was reeeeaally strange

Throughout the prequels and clone wars we see Anakin do the same thing to overpower his enemies.

@@Dick_Dastardly4_7 i meant the part where Vader strangely "tripped"

Probably because of his big ass suit

I can suspend my disbelief on that. Luke's a super Jedi or something.

In fact, in one of the what if stories in the legends, Darth Vader defeated Luke but could not kill his son and daughter and turned against his master.

Well he is when he’s fighting pretty much everyone that he doesn’t know or care about

Real shit

Cause Lucas said it

Vader meat riders just can’t accept the truth

Lucas wrote a comic where Vader was being targeted by assassins from Sidious… he confronted him and Sidious said “it’s what we sith do gang, srry” Vader was big mad

@@YodaInASweater 💀💀😂

Luke was just that strong. That’s why gets that badass intro sequence at Jabba’s. His training is complete. Vader literally says that later.

@@Buttington_Headerson it also says that Luke lacked Obiwan and yoda’s lightsaber training bro.

​@@Broshorts14what he lacked in conventional training he made up for in experience and raw potential Between ESB and RoTJ there's roughly a year where Luke spends his time fighting and training, even learning how to build his own saber (If I'm not mistaken that is cannon in both EU and Disney)

@@thiago292 my point still stands, Luke was padawan level in the canon and then got higher up after ROTJ

Rey Skywalker solos both GG

It wasn't exactly easy. Until Luke tapped into the dark side and straight overpowered him.

Your going to get rekt, good luck​@@albertthepeacock8020

Yes he could. The choreography just didn't age Well. Read Skywalker a family at war. Luke OVERPOWERD Vader

@joel5135 Are you stinking saying that a barely-trained kids could beat a master of both dark and light, and who's the MF chosen one??

it occurs to me that in learning about Luke's sister, it may have sunk in how much Palpatine twisted things to manipulate him, too.

We forget why Aiken is even a with.

Exactly people always trying to be smarter by searching for explanations that were already explained 🤦🏽‍♂️

Like yours or.....

@@Coolguy_4220 does it matter?

Its best not to ask.. lmao​@user-jt3er3qm7o

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It looks like you are all out of Kidneys Lol

Oh yeah he threatened leia that’s why Luke raged

It also just makes the most sense within the story. If Luke was actually weaker and incapable of beating Vader on equal footing, it’d make Yoda absolutely horrible for sending Luke to fight him.

And yet he also said that Vader was more powerful in an interview about why kids love Vader, so his statements are not exactly consistent

Only at the _rank_ of a Jedi Knight Tester yes. But like his father before him Luke completely blows the top off the power scales. By a much higher degree than Annie.

@@priestesslucy3299 We don't see any feat that would suggest Luke is anywhere near Anakin's level as Jedi Knight by the time of ROTJ and Anakin should have been Master by that point but The Jedi council refused so that's not valid point and yes Luke does become more powerful but much later after ROTJ and not before.

@@EternalDaybreak the problem with 'feats' is the difference in technology and choreography between the OST and the PT. If you're going to reject his victory over Vader (a legitimate, honest victory against an equal outside the fandumb that can't handle Luke's growth) then there is not much without dipping into supplemental material.

@@priestesslucy3299 I am not judging their duel based on the technology of the time during the original trilogy. I am using source material that we can rely on, which shows that Luke was not capable enough to kill Vader or Palpatine. While it might have been a bit closer in Legends, canon shows that Darth Vader became more powerful with each passing day, which even surprised Palpatine, as he didn't think Vader could get more powerful after the injuries he sustained while fighting Obi-Wan. I'm sorry, but there is much more lore to back up Vader than there is for Luke in this instance."

@@SidiousNegsValkorion Even the film script

Watching the video, It do feels, I don't really think Luke Is THAT strong here, he would be like Maul level

@@erosrodriguez538 nah cuz Vader could destroy maul. The only ones to be able to defeat Vader as of ROTJ would be Yoda and Mace he even surpassed Obiwan in power by then

@@AjedigetreadytodieAHHHHHH I know, but that's an INSANE Power level, it's like saying Luke Is stronger than Dooku which Is one of the Best (if not the Best) duelist in all Star Wars. Vader couldn't beat Obi Wan tho.

@@erosrodriguez538 dooku isn’t the best he’s one of the best🙏 according to a canon book here’s the best dark side duelists 1. Vader 2. Sidious 3. Maul 4. Tyranus 5. Ventress Not to mention George Lucas’s statements abt Luke

@@erosrodriguez538you’re confusing movie fight choreography with actually in lore power scaling

How

@@TMC26016 overthinking

Anakin is the chosen one, not Luke

@@Callaghan552 yes

Source can always be found in the description! 😊

Yep! Source can always be found in the description! 😊

@@VadersOrder Oh ok sorry, was unaware of that. Ty very much! 😇