Did Fernando Torres REALLY Flop at Chelsea?

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Жыл бұрын

Many consider Fernando Torres' £50 million move from Liverpool to Chelsea to be one of the worst in Premier League History.
Is this actually the case?
Was Torres really just an expensive flop?
Or is their more to his time at Chelsea than meets the eye?

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@stenny8290
@stenny8290 Жыл бұрын
Are you sure his goal tally is right you said he scored 45 goals in 72 games and also had 35 assists that would be world class level
@flashbackfootball1367
@flashbackfootball1367 Жыл бұрын
172, I misread the script 😖. Yes there would be no question of him being a flop if that was his tally!
@SpuddersSpud-ps6dd
@SpuddersSpud-ps6dd 8 ай бұрын
I noticed that too, 172 games, so left out the 1....easy mistake to make. You did get the goal ratio spot on though (goal every 3.8 games). It's far from where he was at Anfield.
@neilboughton2794
@neilboughton2794 3 ай бұрын
I watched Chelsea live LOTS during Torres' time at the Bridge. The main issue was his style of play didn't suit Chelsea's style. Liverpool played exactly to his style. As soon as they won the ball deep. Torres would make a run, the ball would instantly be given to Gerrard who's first thought was feeding Torres. The way Chelsea played was slow build up play, using a striker who could hold the ball up (Drogba). So often when Chelsea won the ball back, Torres would make a run and not get the ball, make another run and not get the ball, make another run and not get the ball, until finally he had to play with his back to goal as the defensive line had dropped, and this didn't suit him at all. He wasn't a flop, but suffered from a huge price tag
@sh2157
@sh2157 4 ай бұрын
His goal against Barcelona was worth the transfer fee alone...especially hearing Gary neville ejaculate on the mic after he scored 😅
@DavidW-ng5zv
@DavidW-ng5zv 2 күн бұрын
Even without that goal they would have still made it through.
@logantucker4366
@logantucker4366 2 күн бұрын
Amen
@eefjedegraaf
@eefjedegraaf 8 ай бұрын
If we didn’t had Torres at that time, we also wouldn’t have won a Champions League and Europa League Cup 😉
@ajb1991.1
@ajb1991.1 4 ай бұрын
I'm a Chelsea fan and I'll always love Torres for the goal vs Barcelona. They knocked us out of the Champions League semi final in the 93rd minute in 2009 and I believe to this day they'd have done the same in 2012 if not for Torres' goal ❤️
@encorefootball
@encorefootball Жыл бұрын
Torres' first touch was always average. Having Gerrard in the no 10 role at Liverpool behind him unlocked his scoring potential. Xabi Alonso would pick out a Gerrard drive towards the box, who would either pick out a through ball or pass it down the wings. It enabled Torres to focus mostly on ghosting past defenders. At Chelsea, it was always about setting up goals up for goalscoring midfielders or a Zola type no 10 and a target man up front. Except Hasselbaink & Costa, I don’t think Chelsea have ever had a consistent prolific striker. (Drogba & Anelka had a couple of heavy scoring seasons, but that was it). But Torres was always a big game player. He turned up in the European games. It's not Torres' fault he was wrongly valued at 50 million. Ba was a better fit despite not being very technical gifted and Drogba was still an useful player. As with Crespo & Shevchenko, Ambramovich bought top players just so his biggest rivals couldn’t have them. Heck, Boehley's doing the same thing now with Mudryk
@Us3r0094
@Us3r0094 3 ай бұрын
Crespo was great
@HectorGonzalez-ef9dp
@HectorGonzalez-ef9dp 3 ай бұрын
How did he not have a good touch ??
@wall-e7179
@wall-e7179 2 ай бұрын
@@HectorGonzalez-ef9dp He's been smoking
@SpuddersSpud-ps6dd
@SpuddersSpud-ps6dd 8 ай бұрын
We got the best of him. That muscle injury definitely took away a yard of pace. Without that he wasn't the same player. We rinsed Chelsea as they thought they were getting prime Torres. The last minute goal vs Barca was meaningless as Chelsea were already ahead.
@Us3r0094
@Us3r0094 7 ай бұрын
The goal sealed the deal also he was a major contributor in the Europa League win and it doesn’t matter we spent £50 million pounds on him we’re Chelsea FC
@user-jz5hj9mr3h
@user-jz5hj9mr3h 3 ай бұрын
liverpool spent the torres ash straight away on Andy Caroll -- how'd that work out?
@flankspeed
@flankspeed 3 ай бұрын
Best bit of business by the Reds, followed by the worst: replaced by a £30m lump of coal 🙄
@davmalteser
@davmalteser 3 ай бұрын
@@user-jz5hj9mr3h (and suarez)
@BoereViking
@BoereViking 2 ай бұрын
Andy Carrol and Luis Suarez...​@@user-jz5hj9mr3h
@thatsmoelikeit
@thatsmoelikeit Жыл бұрын
You're right about the debut, but it was that and the miss against United when he rounded the keeper and missed that fucked him up that season and forever. I love him, he is what he is for Chelsea, not a flop, just unlucky.
@thatsmoelikeit
@thatsmoelikeit Жыл бұрын
Sorry the second season, I really thought that was like his 5th game or something.
@DerekTJ
@DerekTJ 3 ай бұрын
Interesting to be reminded of two other ex-Liverpool players at Chelsea during his time there; Raul Meireles and Yossi Benayoun
@recruitmentch
@recruitmentch 3 ай бұрын
Like Torres, Shevchenko was also rushed back too early so he could play for Ukraine at 2006 World Cup. He was never the same again.
@PatrickTCAPIreland
@PatrickTCAPIreland Жыл бұрын
Was a big Chelsea fan in this era (I was late teens), been more for neutral that keep an eye on them these days, but back then I loved Torres, cult hero character for me!
@olliewilson2275
@olliewilson2275 3 ай бұрын
plastic
@turkeyman631
@turkeyman631 2 ай бұрын
It's no secret he lost a step from his time at Liverpool at this point, but he still was so much better than the football media made him out to be. Plus he helped with a Champions League trophy... I'm sure everyone at Chelsea didn't see him as a 'flop.' Obviously not worth the price tag, but at the same time Chelsea got all of the results they wanted. Just needed someone who can give Drogba a rest lmao.
@Midtable1881
@Midtable1881 Жыл бұрын
Torres at Liverpool was fierce. Torres at Chelsea won silverware.
@embracethevision479
@embracethevision479 3 ай бұрын
Spain playing him in the 2010 world cup ended his prime! If he was bought for 20 million instead of 50 then no one would call him a flop, chelsea won 2 European competitions with torres that's double what they had won in the time before they signed him 😂
@Yee2792
@Yee2792 Жыл бұрын
not a complete flop but when he was out of form at chelsea he had some of the lowest confidence i’ve ever seen in any footballer.. same for his time at milan he just wasn’t much of a threat anymore, great player in his heyday though
@Yee2792
@Yee2792 Жыл бұрын
great video btw
@MohamedAli-xu3uw
@MohamedAli-xu3uw 11 ай бұрын
What happened to Maldini
@AHeroAlmost
@AHeroAlmost 3 ай бұрын
He wasn't at his prime for Chelsea ... But his price was well covered for some of the huge goals he scored for Chelsea ..
@tazp123
@tazp123 Жыл бұрын
You pick amazing topics man, it's wild :D
@CeemPlay
@CeemPlay Жыл бұрын
Torres scored several goals in earlier rounds won trophies yet sat on the bench during finals the ultimate disrespect
@cazmakesart
@cazmakesart Жыл бұрын
torres at chelsea was peak football era
@theguy8275
@theguy8275 2 ай бұрын
No the 90’s was 😂 but that depends on age I guess
@lennykelly9952
@lennykelly9952 3 ай бұрын
Torres was great unfortunately Chelsea hadn’t got someone to knock a ball into space for him to run onto he was great in the air crosses he got from wide men but a class act.
@Howyanow
@Howyanow 7 ай бұрын
He won the corner for drogbas goal in Munich, he’s alright in my book
@kennytwrld
@kennytwrld 6 ай бұрын
😂😂😂💔
@graziflorida4377
@graziflorida4377 2 ай бұрын
The pressure, those players are kids, taking millions and lots of responsibility and pressire. Most can handle it. 70% of players overpaid never maded it
@koopalibrary
@koopalibrary 3 ай бұрын
yes, he flopped. he was spent. Also have you seen zola play? if you had, you could never even think of writing such a sentence. zola is a true legend, not just of chelsea but of the game.
@angrypkeyp
@angrypkeyp Жыл бұрын
Good video 😊
@flashbackfootball1367
@flashbackfootball1367 Жыл бұрын
Thanks man, I appreciate you!
@s.m.s1164
@s.m.s1164 Ай бұрын
El Chelsea tiene 119 años de historia, Fernando Torres estuvo solo tres temporadas y media en el Club. El Chelsea tiene 34 titulos, con Torres en el club fueron 3 los conseguidos (Champions, Europa league, FA Cup), llegando a otra semifinal de Champions donde marcó gol al Atlético de Madrid, aunque finalmente perdieron el partido. Con Torres España ganó un Mundial y dos Eurocopas... Con Torres el Atlético jugo una final de Champion y ganó una Europa league... Hay jugadores que siempre tienen que estar en un equipo porque cuando estan en la cancha pasan cosas buenas. Los genios pueden fallar un gol claro contra el Luton, pero no les tiembla las piernas en una semifinal de Champions contra el Barcelona delante de 100.000 espectadores.
@brianjames9828
@brianjames9828 Жыл бұрын
NO--he was brilliant
@thatsmoelikeit
@thatsmoelikeit Жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this until you compared him to Zola. Zola was never a striker. Zola was Zola and the league was much harder back then, horrible pitches, especially The Bridge, fouls on the pitch were basically assaults back then. Zola is Chelsea 's best ever player. The thought of him if he was playing and brought up in this era is frightening.
@flashbackfootball1367
@flashbackfootball1367 Жыл бұрын
I don't thin Torres at Chelsea comes close to Zola, not in terms of playing style, impact, legacy or anything. And of course the quality of playing surface etc. is not comparable. I just thought it was interesting how their scoring rates are almost identical, yet people will look at Torres' stats and call him a failure. The point I was, perhaps unsuccessfully, trying to make with that segment is that oftentimes in football, numbers don't tell the whole story.
@HitchProductionz1837
@HitchProductionz1837 7 ай бұрын
@@flashbackfootball1367I must say i think you actually have a point. Revolving managers, injuries, scored in big moments, won a Euro’s, champions league and Europa league. Yeah sure he wasn’t a world beater but far from a flop. They don’t win the UCL without him.
@TheDeadsideofYouTube
@TheDeadsideofYouTube Жыл бұрын
His goal against barca was worth the money it cost to buy him.
@SpuddersSpud-ps6dd
@SpuddersSpud-ps6dd 8 ай бұрын
@TheDeadsideofKZfaq A last minute goal when Chelsea were already ahead in the tie? It was a meaningless goal.
@rndompersn3426
@rndompersn3426 Жыл бұрын
He was definitely a flop. Even toward the end of his time at Liverpool he looked like he had lost pace and was getting injured a lot. In many ways it was Scheva v2 with him competing with Drogba in that position, getting in his way. He was a good CF in his day but I think he has been overrated. Even he admitted he wasnt as good as Drogba and Drogba himself was actually quite inconsistent.
@14years88
@14years88 4 ай бұрын
Not even close. Shevshenko , Lukaku even the man you mention was brought in to replace Torres, Demba Ba - you can call those flops for Chelsea. In fact statistically, Torres had a goal contribution rate only 0.1 below that of Hazard for Chelsea. His GC rate tops all the aforementioned 'flops' & possibly explains why he lasted at the club & played almost 100 more games than each of them. Here's the funny part: I know Zola wasn't a number 9 but he was a forward & Torres has (35) almost the same number of assist as Zola (38) in 140 less games & also boast a higher GC rate. Staggering, considering how revered a legend Zola is at the bridge. The only debate could be that his transfer was overpriced considering that he was on a decline after a series of injuries. That kind of money at that time would be justified if it was for a prime Torres. In conclusion the man saw the darkest period of his career while playing for Chelsea & a terribly slow start didn't help either. Had some very embarrassing and unfortunate moments but even that never really overshadowed his magic. People forget his goals & mostly assists that aided Chelsea reach European finals. He was beast at international level too during his stay at Chelsea, bagging the EURO's + golden boot and Confederations Cup golden boot too. I think while a player at Chelsea he won 3 consecutive European cups starting with the UCL, then winning the EUROs with Spain post season & then winning the Europa with Chelsea the following season. If you check his contributions you will be surprised. He had a couple of hattricks here & there for chelsea, a few magic touches reminiscent of his prime, like that chip over Van Der Sar. I think he's legend even while at Chelsea. One of the few players to appear alongside Messi & Ronaldo as the world's best attackers.
@user-fv6qd9cl9m
@user-fv6qd9cl9m 2 ай бұрын
to me Torres wasnta flop at chelsea even at champion league final he contributed to the corner kick that brought us the equalizer
@luigicachetelli284
@luigicachetelli284 Ай бұрын
It's not that he flopped as being an awful player, just far from the expectations because he hadn't the same atmosphere around him. But seeing his contributions to all of the titles he won, he obviously did pretty well
@jazmar0822
@jazmar0822 4 ай бұрын
All I remember about Torres is that he had a lot of hype around him and I kept watching hoping to see it and it never came. Over the years I've learned that pundits will hype a player based on the eye test and not the results. If the player looks balanced and elegant they will run with that. I've learned that a lot of players who are slow and not very athletic usually have an elegance to their game but being slow and not very athletic doesn't translate well in every league.
@DarkLordofTheSith69
@DarkLordofTheSith69 2 ай бұрын
The armband proved he was a red Torres Torres ! Youll never walk alone it said Torres Torres! We bought the lad from sunny Spain he gets the ball he scores again Fernando Torres Liverpools number 9 ! 🎶
@user-ru6ok5zp4n
@user-ru6ok5zp4n 3 ай бұрын
Torres come for title with Chelsea, something he can't do with Liverpool. So at least he get what he hopes with Chelsea, not that bad actually
@kabayephiri8414
@kabayephiri8414 5 ай бұрын
Fernando Torres was not a flop at Chelsea in Mourinho's words a flop don't win trophies
@gspvideo5543
@gspvideo5543 5 ай бұрын
He was on his way down, last 6 months at Liverpool
@IceClawz.
@IceClawz. 2 ай бұрын
Maybe Torres was being lifted up by the songs of the kop and hearing " Chelsea Chelsea Chelsea" for 90 mins made him worse ...
@wall-e7179
@wall-e7179 2 ай бұрын
He made Chelsea likeable. Quite the achievement. Chelsea didn't deserve prime Torres
@Yespapiii
@Yespapiii Жыл бұрын
Torres will always be an all time great
@user-jz5hj9mr3h
@user-jz5hj9mr3h 3 ай бұрын
i'm a chelsea fan and this is a very fair acount
@GabrielGarcia-zg2cq
@GabrielGarcia-zg2cq 2 ай бұрын
Torres was the ultimate role player
@giodhuha6771
@giodhuha6771 8 ай бұрын
Torres was never a flop, he is Chelsea legend.
@WezYouTube
@WezYouTube Жыл бұрын
Yes
@CarlosRojas-hr6ms
@CarlosRojas-hr6ms 3 ай бұрын
Yes, yes he was
@zapre2284
@zapre2284 6 ай бұрын
Short answer..Yes. Long answer ...this video
@lronshawcross2248
@lronshawcross2248 2 ай бұрын
Yes, he was bad. Even in his best season he stat-padded against shit teams and in games that were already sown up
@ronb5714
@ronb5714 Жыл бұрын
I went into this with an open mind. Hasn’t won me over. He was a record signing, for the world’s Number One moneybags team. Yet he never became their main striker, within a few weeks and for the rest of his career he was nobody’s pick for one of the club’s top five players, and he never managed to put together a run of more than half a dozen games without either losing form or getting injured. There were mitigating circumstances, but if you look at how much he cost, how good he’d been at Liverpool, and what the expectations were at Chelsea, he was absolutely a flop.
@flashbackfootball1367
@flashbackfootball1367 Жыл бұрын
Do you think his price tag is the main reason you think he's a flop? Granted, you make some fair points, he didn't hit the heights at Chelsea that he did Liverpool, but given his injuries and declining form before Chelsea bought him, they were mental to pay that price. You can't blame the player for that. I think one of the main expectations was to win the champions league, and they did that with him in the team. I obviously don't class him as a roaring success, but personally still feel the flop label is harsh. Thanks for commenting, and watching with an open mind :)
@lexico8165
@lexico8165 Жыл бұрын
Gotta agree with u bro! I'm a LFC fan & considering the PL transfer record was broken by that transfer, Yes he was a flop! I've said for years that u don't break a transfer record for a striker for him to get more assists than goals! Loved Torres at his best, he was awesome but we didn't see that at Chelsea!
@ronb5714
@ronb5714 Жыл бұрын
@@flashbackfootball1367 Flop (or hit!) is always relative. Relative to lots of other things - other players signed at the same time, price, and expectations. On all counts, it's hard to see how Torres came close to what was expected, still less what was hoped for.
@joemadden4817
@joemadden4817 3 ай бұрын
Flop
@airmanchairman
@airmanchairman 3 ай бұрын
Sing to Abba’s “Fernando”: 🎵”He was nothing but a bag of $h1t, complete misfit, Fernando-o”🎵
@bulgariangooner5879
@bulgariangooner5879 3 ай бұрын
Yes
@Bluearmy76
@Bluearmy76 3 ай бұрын
Yes
@hinrei1986
@hinrei1986 Ай бұрын
Yes
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