Did He Know Something We Don't? - The World's Most Mysterious Book - Terence McKenna

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Danit Friedman

Danit Friedman

8 ай бұрын

Terence McKenna - Full Lecture | Black Screen | Rain Sounds
The World's Most Mysterious Book - The Voynich Manuscript
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@abbysorenson6685
@abbysorenson6685 8 ай бұрын
Is anyone else just... blown tf away by McKennas ability to quote history to the month and year, number of books, ducats, etc.? I haven't been around the academic world much but I listen and read a lot, and I can't come anywhere near quoting chapter, verse and episode the way McKenna can. It's truly impressive. Like the folks who can memorize a skyline and then draw it. Amazing abilities.
@davidpolaczek3614
@davidpolaczek3614 8 ай бұрын
He was a Gnostic....for those with ears...
@tupd
@tupd 8 ай бұрын
Look up Giordano Bruno and the art of memory. Mckenna's talent is no accident. He studied and used the Memory Palace technique extensively.
@realSAPERE_AUDE
@realSAPERE_AUDE 8 ай бұрын
I don’t think it would be that difficult to just make up those details. Who is going to fact check? How do you know he isn’t just fabricating most of it?
@MisterBrewer
@MisterBrewer 7 ай бұрын
I'm impressed for sure. Even if he is making it up, which I dont think he is.
@MisterBrewer
@MisterBrewer 7 ай бұрын
I just Googled some of the details and the stuff comes up on Wikipedia so I dont think its made up. The years mentioned are correct about Dee and Kelley and the info matches.
@lukasvilla2657
@lukasvilla2657 8 ай бұрын
That lady.. Jeez. Just hush and listen
@phishwithoutfish
@phishwithoutfish 7 ай бұрын
Talk about throwing a stick in the wheel of the mind
@paulpower7018
@paulpower7018 7 ай бұрын
She's alright after awhile i got used to her... She does makes good questions/points though ...she dosen't trip up his "master mind" one bit...
@alanturing3256
@alanturing3256 6 ай бұрын
Sounds like Kat, his wife at the time.
@Lilly_Day
@Lilly_Day 5 ай бұрын
@@alanturing3256 Oh, that makes sense. I was hearing she had an attraction to him. Hoping to get closer to him, through bonding with conversation.
@hamzaalami7995
@hamzaalami7995 5 ай бұрын
as long as it's not karen 🙃@@alanturing3256
@ofangelsflipz
@ofangelsflipz 7 ай бұрын
I couldnt be happier the young generations are discovering Mckenna and hearing him, at that.
@superodfx
@superodfx 7 ай бұрын
“An awareness of the spirit carries with it an obligation to action." -Terence McKenna
@leroyjones6170
@leroyjones6170 7 ай бұрын
I had so many of these recording s on cd. Used to listen to hours and hours worth at work every day, every week for a few years. Love Terrence, wicked smart and file cabinet of a memory.
@artemisXsidecross
@artemisXsidecross 8 ай бұрын
Thank you once again Danit, this talk on The Voynich Manuscript is one I remember and does point out that the phonetic alphabet is a recent development of language. Before its development, written language was novel and not phonetic; most language was oral and not written. Homer’s great works of the Iliad and Odyssey were recited and not written nor read. Many previous written languages were visual symbols and not symbols of sound, It is why many languages, like English, can use 26 letters to create all the oral sounds that were in pictographs. Pictograms: ‘Roughly 600 Chinese characters are pictograms (象形; xiàngxíng; 'form imitation') - stylised drawings of the objects they represent. These are generally among the oldest characters. A few, indicated below with their earliest forms, date back to oracle bones from the twelfth century BCE. These pictograms became progressively more stylised, and lost much of their direct resemblance, especially as the script transitioned from the oracle bone script to the seal script during the Eastern Zhou, as well as during the transition to the clerical script of the Han dynasty to a lesser extent.’ wiki “…Already in the Phenomenology of Perception, Merleau-Ponty had begun to work out a notion of human language as a profoundly carnal phenomenon, rooted in our sensorial experience of each other and of the world. In a famous chapter entitled “The Body as Expression, and Speech,” he wrote at length of the gestural genesis of language, the way that communicative meaning is first incarnate in the gestures by which the body spontaneously expresses feelings and responds to changes in its affective environment. The gesture is spontaneous and immediate. It is not an arbitrary sign that we mentally attach to a particular emotion or feeling; rather, the gesture is the bodying-forth of that emotion into the world, it is that feeling of delight or of anguish in its tangible, visible aspect. When we encounter such a spontaneous gesture, we do not first see it as a blank behavior, which we then mentally associate with a particular content or significance; rather, the bodily gesture speaks directly to our own body, and is thereby understood without any interior reflection: Faced with an angry or threatening gesture, I have no need, in order to understand it, to [mentally] recall the feelings which I myself experienced when I used these gestures on my own account….I do not see anger or a threatening attitude as a psychic fact hidden behind the gesture, I read anger in it. The gesture does not make me think of anger, it is anger itself.1 Active, living speech is just such a gesture, a vocal gesticulation wherein the meaning is inseparable from the sound, the shape, and the rhythm of the words.” David Abram, The Spell of the Sensuous
@energiovanni432
@energiovanni432 7 ай бұрын
Just listening to Terrence McKenna has expanded my vocabulary, ability to articulate and understand new topics of discussion, and also sharpened my ability to visualize. No drugs were needed. We’re there any mushrooms involved? I don’t know 😊
@garden_3130
@garden_3130 8 ай бұрын
This particular talk will always hold a bittersweet memory for me because the first time I heard it I was so taken aback by the mystery and the beauty of the script itself (which I may have) seen somewhere prior to hearing this I believe briefly, and also that signature practicality and eloquence of how Terrence explained it. That was at a time in my life when I was at one of my most peaceful and also conflicted. But this and other talks by Terrence was my oasis.
@modofatak
@modofatak 8 ай бұрын
I’m so grateful that so much of what he said was recorded. Can you imagine being in one of these (what seem like) intimate audiences?
@artemisXsidecross
@artemisXsidecross 8 ай бұрын
Has anyone heard Terence McKenna's talk about James Joyce's Finnegans Wake? If ever you wanted to spend time with a novel that is so demanding that Joyce said of it, all of recorded history could be resurrected within its pages. It is a dense novel and most never read past the first fifty pages.
@onapermo
@onapermo 7 ай бұрын
​@@artemisXsidecrossis this on KZfaq?
@Kid_Ikaris
@Kid_Ikaris 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for uploading this! I thought there was only one McKenna talk on the Voynich Manuscipt. Been listening to McKenna on KZfaq since middle school. I'm 30 now and still finding things I've never heard before.
@Kid_Ikaris
@Kid_Ikaris 6 ай бұрын
The rain at the end is also a nice touch 😌
@cxv8414
@cxv8414 4 ай бұрын
Which other talk are you referring to? I only know of two others on ty but they are cut versions of this one
@torreydunn7034
@torreydunn7034 7 ай бұрын
Before I even listen to this. Yes. Terrence knew a lot of things we don’t.
@user-lj6yr5ib6b
@user-lj6yr5ib6b 7 ай бұрын
They are obviously the field notes of a botanist. Terrence grew up in a western Colorado mining town, he told stories of dodging bullies and running around with a butterfly net studying nature. He would have recognized them for what they were. But those plants don't match any morphology I've ever seen. The link to the .pdf above, the "reviews" below it, someone hit it. He'd seen them on a DMT trip. Terrence talked of DMT trips to actual places. That had to be his fascination, and as I sit here typing this, I'm wondering if the cosmological section doesn't describe coordinates in space time. Physical directions to a place he might be right now, rappin' with Jethro Tull. He said that the knowledge you accrue in a lifetime is "in your back pocket" when you leave the physical. Be as good a place as any to go, and by then I might have the mental horsepower to actually carry on a conversation with him. Weird comment I know, but it fits.
@sleslie23
@sleslie23 Ай бұрын
Field notes from what planet? The drawings don't correspond to any known plants or aren't similar to any other known contemporaneous drawings of plants.
@spearcat710
@spearcat710 8 ай бұрын
As i say all the time, the things i dont know could fill one big ass book, but i do my best to tear a page out of it everyday.
@AhYesIndeedItsFunTime
@AhYesIndeedItsFunTime 7 ай бұрын
Love this lecture. Thank you!
@alpha-centaury
@alpha-centaury 8 ай бұрын
Well. I usually don't comment. but I love the lady asking questions in the background, she sounds curious and not just accepting things. we need more people like her, people that not just listen but also participate and include themselves in the whole equation. Uncle Terence has transcended into a higher realm, he became the information and he lives with us forever. ❤️‍🔥
@bja311
@bja311 8 ай бұрын
He truly became the information!!!
@frostythegreaser5745
@frostythegreaser5745 8 ай бұрын
My dream is to be a mushroom shaman and trip people out, and listening to this guy is my shamanism class
@josiahgreeno3565
@josiahgreeno3565 8 ай бұрын
gotta pioneer the Amazon
@truthoverlies1820
@truthoverlies1820 6 ай бұрын
What a fantastic raconteur terrence was
@timothyjohnfarr6544
@timothyjohnfarr6544 3 ай бұрын
Impressive and very accurate. 1 of my favourite tubes 333 333 333
@matthewmaguire3554
@matthewmaguire3554 7 ай бұрын
Interrupting Terrance is like a heckler at comedians show it can throw you off your flow… But TERRY, being the professional, he at is, doesn’t miss a beat and gets right back on track to his rap. Wonder what would get if ask AI what the message , meaning of the Voynich Manual is.
@Truewing777
@Truewing777 6 ай бұрын
The guess is not much.. many modern forms of decoding had failed at the same task some unknown translator had succeeded in..
@AngeliqueCatero-bz5em
@AngeliqueCatero-bz5em Ай бұрын
It looks like a catalog of plants. Each plant is very unique with identifiable caracteristics. Like Autobahn and all the birds
@LoneFarrell
@LoneFarrell 8 ай бұрын
The stone lives on through the mysteries within us all. #waves
@baarbacoa
@baarbacoa 7 ай бұрын
The manuscript continues to resist decryption. As I understand it, encryption and language experts seem to be moving toward the theory that the book is nonsense, created for some purpose. Given the interest in books containing hidden knowledge, that purpose may be simply to defraud a buyer.
@donnamariefarrell533
@donnamariefarrell533 7 ай бұрын
It's an absolute alchemist recipe for the homunculous ...see homunculous Unveiled
@modofatak
@modofatak 8 ай бұрын
He knew A LOT we don’t
@Yahyamourad_
@Yahyamourad_ 7 ай бұрын
Except Islam:p
@raginald7mars408
@raginald7mars408 8 ай бұрын
.. as a German Biologist - I was fascinated from the moment I saw this “manu Script” in my view... it appears like a prank of a juvenile Leonardo that still fascinates today increases my admiration for Leonardo a Prank and Joke works...
@artemisXsidecross
@artemisXsidecross 8 ай бұрын
Yes, humor and the joker are always mixed in the deck. "The devil's finest trick is to persuade you that he does not exist.” Charles Baudelaire (Paris Spleen)
@sleipnirsbro535
@sleipnirsbro535 7 ай бұрын
Considering how long it must have taken to make this book by hand and how expensive the materials were, I don't think it was a joke.
@CrabbyPattydelight
@CrabbyPattydelight 8 ай бұрын
Nice!
@p00yan
@p00yan 8 ай бұрын
I love the woman's voice asking questions. she sounds like the mushroom talking lol
@scottreese8406
@scottreese8406 8 ай бұрын
I find myself wishing she'd stop chiming in. She's sweet do not get me wrong, but if I were there I'd be a bit annoyed lol.
@tu0ootu
@tu0ootu 8 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@p00yan
@p00yan 7 ай бұрын
@@scottreese8406 I understand the irritation you feel. I kind of felt that too but then I tuned into her enthusiastic curiosity and thought wow I know this voice!
@HowFarCanYouSee
@HowFarCanYouSee 7 ай бұрын
Thank you.
@qntmfzx3912
@qntmfzx3912 5 ай бұрын
The story he just told is basically the TV show "A discovery of witches" My mind is now blown
@artemisXsidecross
@artemisXsidecross 8 ай бұрын
‘We must stand apart from the conventions of history, even while using the record of the past, for the idea of history is itself a western invention whose central theme is the rejection of habitat. It formulates experience outside of nature and tends to reduce place to only a stage upon which the human drama is enacted. History conceives the past mainly in terms of biography and nations. It seeks causality in the conscious, spiritual, ambitious character of men and memorializes them in writing.’ -Paul Shepard ‘I wonder if the Ground has anything to say? I wonder if the ground is listening to what is said?’   -Young Chief, of the Cayuses tribe (upon signing over their lands to the U.S. government, in 1855) David Abram, The Spell of the Sensuous (p. 232)
@fishdude666ify
@fishdude666ify 7 ай бұрын
I didn't know til I heard this that he is the only person I want to hear talk about it.
@obviouslyurnotagolfer148
@obviouslyurnotagolfer148 7 ай бұрын
We don't have any modern day reflective thinkers like him today. The commitment for such awareness requires way too much involvement and less time spent with today's tech.
@NWLee
@NWLee 7 ай бұрын
Just because one is unaware of their existence doesn't mean they don't exist.
@GrannyG63
@GrannyG63 7 ай бұрын
Watch an Elon Musk interview..he is today's complex..refective thinker.
@trttoday7440
@trttoday7440 7 ай бұрын
nice reconfigureliberation Terrance ! mushh ooonn !🙏🏼
@wholeness
@wholeness 7 ай бұрын
I should train a visual AI to crack it. 😮
@Generalwlb
@Generalwlb 7 ай бұрын
I always like to think I could decipher that book if I had it in front of me but the reality is that I would be just as lost as everyone else 😅
@sleslie23
@sleslie23 Ай бұрын
More. There are people who have spent decades researching the manuscript and haven't made much tangible progress.
@cxv8414
@cxv8414 Ай бұрын
This one is a fav of mine
@idolcruisefix71
@idolcruisefix71 7 ай бұрын
Maybe a new thought on The Voynich Manuscript: Many people still "speak in tongues", the audio of this activity could still be written with a phonetic alphabet, such as english. If you tried to put meaning to the emotions of many tongue speaking sessions and used those emotional driven ideas to hinder the illustrations, then all that's left is to encode the phonetic record, which would be impossible to make sense of. One way to figure this out would be to speak in tongues, find common themes of sound, link those to common themes in the manuscript, decode it's phonetic commonalities to modern tongue speaking folks and see if those commonalities reflect the illustrations by way of tone, inflection, mood, etc. In short, to prove this, you have to channel, speak in tongues and make a new book, and compare it. But one might speak in tongues on a theme, like a mantra. Maybe the illustrations are the themes chosen for the tongue speaking sessions.
@leestevenson1236
@leestevenson1236 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for work. Do you create/paint all the thumbnail’s yourself? They are fantastic!
@DanitFriedman
@DanitFriedman 7 ай бұрын
Thank you @leestevenson1236 Yes, I create the thumbnails myself. I love making them. I use photoshop tools and Ai tools
@Nivag0508
@Nivag0508 7 ай бұрын
But why can we not project our own description without using AI tools
@Nivag0508
@Nivag0508 7 ай бұрын
If that makes sense
@bobby-and2crows
@bobby-and2crows 8 ай бұрын
now, you have my attention, this is gonna blow up.
@country4lyfe365
@country4lyfe365 7 ай бұрын
How does he do it?? Its unnatural. Either he was givin a gift, or he was supernatural. Im leaning on the ladder.
@larscincaid6348
@larscincaid6348 7 ай бұрын
He is no different than you or I accept he had the courage to Seek Truth.
@fluffycolt5608
@fluffycolt5608 7 ай бұрын
53:00 whats the latest AI doing with the manuscript?
@Lofinakama
@Lofinakama 8 ай бұрын
Pdf of the Script?
@DanitFriedman
@DanitFriedman 8 ай бұрын
archive.org/details/TheVoynichManuscript/page/n195/mode/2up
@chillfuturist9668
@chillfuturist9668 8 ай бұрын
​@DanitFriedman wow you really are the best!
@artemisXsidecross
@artemisXsidecross 8 ай бұрын
@@DanitFriedman That is impressive ☮
@chase.huetter
@chase.huetter 8 ай бұрын
yes
@fractalico
@fractalico 8 ай бұрын
@user-oz7hi3yk1s
@user-oz7hi3yk1s 7 ай бұрын
TERRANCE TALKING ABOUT ROSICRUCIANISM, JOHN DEE, EDWARD, ESOTERICA ETC.... Insane.. alchemists etc... man... FRANCIS BACON. Like come on... Terrance knew.
@ejkalegal3145
@ejkalegal3145 7 ай бұрын
I'm sure this guy did the voice for that Shamen track voiceover.
@m.j.mahoney8905
@m.j.mahoney8905 7 ай бұрын
He did. The band knew him in some capacity, at least.
@jonnyneoross369
@jonnyneoross369 8 ай бұрын
Quite the collection is put together you go ahead and wake em up. I think I’m waking up. Ya I’m waking up.
@johnwrickel
@johnwrickel 7 ай бұрын
🦄 Dolt by John Rickel 🦄
@larscincaid6348
@larscincaid6348 8 ай бұрын
Synchronicity.
@leschosescachees9500
@leschosescachees9500 8 ай бұрын
Do you mean there's a link between the content of the manuscript and the concept of synchronicity ?
@larscincaid6348
@larscincaid6348 7 ай бұрын
Yep
@larscincaid6348
@larscincaid6348 7 ай бұрын
He means everything is one thing.
@donnamariefarrell533
@donnamariefarrell533 7 ай бұрын
On the concept of the homunculous , I am blown away that more do not know of this fascination in creating life without a woman. I'd love to know where he stood on the morality the idea, as with clones of today ,seems Magik is real and always has been.
@mdterpz532
@mdterpz532 7 ай бұрын
You talking Bout the guy putting his juice into a chicken egg and growing something 'alive' ? If so I heard that was a hoax I found it quite interesting at first as well
@Gianfranco_69
@Gianfranco_69 7 ай бұрын
It would have been very lucrative at the time to produce (loose term) any hermetic/alchemic text ,the main issue is IT IS a language not a code of a language . I personally think its written or transcribed with the help of 'familiars or Elementals' .. so it could be a very dense cypher meant to mislead the unwary created by trickster 'demons'.... There is many speculations in the occult world about what this is. Hypnagogic states can also produce similar works ,see poetry for evidence of this
@ejenkins4711
@ejenkins4711 7 ай бұрын
Yes terence but the tail end of CGJ appearing in 2004 july 26 in kusnaght F Amerogen when institute turned him away. Good JOB ulster had an open home 🦁🌪️⌚
@timothyjohnfarr6544
@timothyjohnfarr6544 3 ай бұрын
Im some narcissistic enlightened but this guy is Level other than
@matthewtaylordeoppressolib7141
@matthewtaylordeoppressolib7141 6 ай бұрын
It's clearly a fake magical object made by some clever artist
@user-xi1pe1bp3d
@user-xi1pe1bp3d 8 ай бұрын
He's trying to intuitively an instinctively say that we should defund the 500 billion a year International War on Drugs & therefore consciousness
@SuperiorDave
@SuperiorDave 8 ай бұрын
I do the best Terance McKenny Impression. An awesome dude.
@TruthSeeker1985
@TruthSeeker1985 8 ай бұрын
Yet u misspell his name... 😂
@TruthSeeker1985
@TruthSeeker1985 8 ай бұрын
He'd be appaled at the arrogance as well.
@martitinkovich4489
@martitinkovich4489 8 ай бұрын
_apalled".........excuse the correction,@@TruthSeeker1985
@medicalmisinformation
@medicalmisinformation 7 ай бұрын
​@@TruthSeeker1985You misspelled "appalled." McKenna must be so embarrassed that the person defending his memory against the spurious claim of a semiliterate self-professed impressionist is himself semiliterate 😢
@Randoverse
@Randoverse 7 ай бұрын
​​@@medicalmisinformationOr did he misspell appaled? The machine elves taught Mkenny that you can create object through words. Truth Seeker just created meaning you understood but just wanted to interject for the giggles.
@lucafresi6739
@lucafresi6739 8 ай бұрын
Danit you are beautiful 🥺
@Cloudy_Jones
@Cloudy_Jones 7 ай бұрын
It’s been deciphered, it’s written in an ancient Turkish script, basically a really old apothecary and astronomy texts.
@StephenS-2024
@StephenS-2024 7 ай бұрын
Hold all questions til the end , please and thank you.
@jojozepofthejungle2655
@jojozepofthejungle2655 7 ай бұрын
Is it supposed to be a blank screen 😊
@shanejohns7901
@shanejohns7901 7 ай бұрын
He knew first-hand about the cognitive effects of a brain tumor on his thinking. I suppose that is a kind of 'knowledge'.
@Z3nHolEminD
@Z3nHolEminD 7 ай бұрын
Yea he understand the process of this death cult , they are all on the same script
@jeffreyedwards767
@jeffreyedwards767 6 ай бұрын
[ I] am a weak silly human ,,,,can [ not ] fly
@cihankenar1
@cihankenar1 7 ай бұрын
The audio quality is terrible unortunately. I have ADHD and this makes it impossible to listen to, I will do some noise reduction to it and see if I can improve it.
@ThermaL-ty7bw
@ThermaL-ty7bw 8 ай бұрын
this thing is an old book written by a Turk or one of those parts of the world , there's a documentary about a father and a son who studied the book for decades , it's just a normal Turkish language , just very old script , but they can read it like it's english because they still Have That Same language form and words that can verify it's their own language , the book is a simple encyclopedic account of his travels and what he saw on them , just another person with To Much Time On His Hands , like all the authors of these lying holy books , all of them
@toyelsonorista
@toyelsonorista 7 ай бұрын
What’s the name of the documentary?
@richaelblewett5068
@richaelblewett5068 7 ай бұрын
You can check out a KZfaq video of a recent conference in Turkish on the manuscript. I do not believe there is an English translation of the conference yet.
@leegould5306
@leegould5306 7 ай бұрын
The woman who keeps interrupting is very annoying…
@cxv8414
@cxv8414 Ай бұрын
That was his future wife, trying to flirt lol
@spaceengineer1452
@spaceengineer1452 7 ай бұрын
Sounds like Jack Nicholson.
@allensacharov5424
@allensacharov5424 7 ай бұрын
Is it true that the Voynich Manuscript actually was an obscure variation of Turkic languages??
@GokuGohanGokhanPlus
@GokuGohanGokhanPlus 7 ай бұрын
It actually happens to be true. Because there are words that are very very similar to some Turkish words
@BryanKirch
@BryanKirch 7 ай бұрын
Not mysterious do your research guys
@gilsimhon9251
@gilsimhon9251 8 ай бұрын
an anigma
@douglascody7431
@douglascody7431 8 ай бұрын
Enigma*
@todddavis240
@todddavis240 7 ай бұрын
I think its a manuscript, I hate to call it that, to me its nothing until you can decifer. I think it was created in a nut house, its the insane language and art of the poor soul who wrote it.
@andrewbroome5752
@andrewbroome5752 7 ай бұрын
Is this an academic speech or a recording between a few people? Just wondering cause the lady interrupting him is annoying.
@rationalchimp8200
@rationalchimp8200 6 ай бұрын
Brilliant. Except for the annoying lady
@BrinleyPavitt
@BrinleyPavitt 7 ай бұрын
Narrated by John Malkovich.
@dverygrateful1
@dverygrateful1 7 ай бұрын
No heroic doses thats why he stopped. Ask dennis its written down.
@tysonkonken-jj3vd
@tysonkonken-jj3vd 7 ай бұрын
He knew a lot we dont!
@suckmynose000
@suckmynose000 7 ай бұрын
I have no context at all for any of this and just stumbled on this video. 20 minutes in, what am I listening to?
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