For the turbo nerds here is some more stuff I learned about the OLED display verifying my findings with some experts: -The pixels on this display aren’t what you’d see on a lot of traditional Pentile-type displays, which have double the amount of G subpixels compared to R and B (because your eyes are more sensitive to green). -The B subpixel area is twice that of either the R or G subpixel area. That is not a surprise: Considering that blue OLED decay is much faster than that of R or G, use of twice (or more) area on B enables half or less J (current density, mA/cm2), which reduces the B aging rate. -We were curious if the B subpixel pairs were independently driven or if Samsung cheated when making the panel and driving them together, effectively giving you 1080Ps worth of B pixels. An image was created with a single white pixel on a black background and we verified that the B subpixel pairs are independently driven with the microscope. -It was speculated that the screen might look weird because the blue pixels aren't on the same center line as the red and green ones. I looked at a totally green screen but the dirtyness was still there, making the screendoor effect theory more solid. -Part of the “dirtiness” is mediocre “Mura correction”. Since each individual pixel is emitting it’s own light on an OLED panel it is important that it is properly calibrated so the brightness of each pixel is the same. This information gets baked into the firmware of each individual OLED display, and if the calibration wasn’t done the whole thing would look horrible. -Certain vision astigmatisms will make you a lot more sensitive to pentile layouts, it is possible I'm just really sensitive to this and you might be fine. -These Samsung OLED panels are basically impossible to properly colour calibrate. There isn’t enough power to run the whole thing at max brightness, so the colours/brightness of the scene can change depending on the total power draw of the panel. -All of these artifacts are imperceptible if you’re about 2’ away from the display, but are noticeable at about 1.5’ (fairly typical for using a laptop). -I was able to see the individual subpixels with my naked eye on the XPS 15’s IPS display, but had to get uncomfortably close. Anyway, if there are any display nerds with more info hit me up @AlexTheGreatish, this was a fun little rabbit hole. -AC

The Pixel Layout needs to be in a video on LTT discussing screen quality. This was extremely cool.

I love how almost every other host uses the LTT theme(I can’t remember the name) for audio testing, but Alex uses Crab Rave

Alex: * casually brings out a microscope * Linus: "I do not understand the economic of this channel"

Alex: It has so many ports My old laptop: Oh really

There is something odd about that display ... brings out a microscope. Thats why I like this channel.

2:15 Note for the editor: Maybe you can put the rated speeds of the USB ports on their listings? It's kinda hard to track what all the different names mean without a cribsheet to hand.

one of the best thing i like about this channel is that even though i can't afford these laptops ever, its quite satisfying to watch these reviews and unboxing

Someone has to say it, the same laptop with an AMD CPU would be much better.

8:20 - "You're not actually gonna be able to see it because it's like looking at a screen, through a camera, on your screen that's probably not an OLED.." That's savage... but true.

imagine if nothing else this was a 4900HS instead of a 10750H. literally everything else was the same how different this would be

When I saw the Envy 15 specs I just goes, "Damn, that's the office looking version for the Omen 15"

Alex: "Can't complain too much" Obviously hasn't checked the comments yet

Alex: "This one is $500 cheaper" *My eyes light up* Alex:: "It's $1,500" *Disappointment sets back in*

Fantastic video. I love you getting into the technical details vis a vis screen artifacts.

"I'm not going to do any benchmarks," he said after using a microscope on the oled panel :D

Is that a gosh darn Fearless Flyers shirt? I love Alex more and more.

Yeah... Good thing you noticed that OLED image quality issue. I was wondering how the heck they managed to squeeze in a 15" 4K OLED touch panel in a $1500 laptop when you can barely get IPS screens with 4K touch at that price point. This old tech explains it. But this laptop with a normal IPS LCD seem to be a good bargain in todays ridiculously priced market space.

Love Alex’s un-boxing’s and reviews. Great work.

My Dell XPS 15 from 2019 has a gorgeous OLED display, no grainyness or reflections.

AMD would’ve been killer in the laptop Instead of intel

I was honestly hoping to see a Ryzen CPU, oah well

Alex, you are a great and very thorough presenter. Love all your videos, LTT is lucky to have you!

Love the pixel peeping. Learned something!

I got that same shirt! The Fearless Flyers are amazing.

"There it is. It's a laptop".

7:22 OMG thanks Alex I was just having the same problem with my new monitor, moving it back on my desk totally fixed it.

My job has been issuing out HP Envy 15s as company laptops since last year, the build quality on them is super nice. We've had our issues with them, being an enterprise and all, but overall they're not bad. Mine does have a ghosting issue with the backlight/panel, but not many people have this issue.

“oh wow, this seems great! “ * an hour later...* “everything about this seems cheap and it’s falling apart in my hands...” The HP experience in a nutshell.

Love the editing work from “who’s dis?!”

4:35 Just because this doesn't come with a type C charger doesn't mean it can't be charged by type C. As you mentioned earlier, the 200 W charger keeps the laptop from losing power under load and type C can't deliver 200 W yet. The type C ports on this laptop supports Power Delivery (up to 100 W I think). Please do a little more research before saying stuff like this. PD through type C is one of my favorite features and I keep an eye out so when you said it doesn't support it I remember most HP non gaming laptop have it and went online and checked.

The fearless flyers shirt... What a man of culture

My guess before watching is that if this actually killed the XPS, we’d see a review video on LTT first

That Fearless Flyers t-shirt though! 🔥

Omg! Just noticed credits at the end! Cool! Thanks guys for making this video! :)

The crosshatching effect or screendoor effect is due to the touch digitizer its also present in hp spectre series too

Fearless Flyers Tailwinds t-shirt??!?! 😍😍😍

I also have a HP laptop, grey keyboard with back light turned on makes it really hard to see what is on the keys. Also my fan ramps up really quickly and it is quite loud.

Have this laptop right now for 1 Month now. Still stunned by this device and can't really confirm the critic points. What is a bit enjoying for me is, that the buttom cover is not so stiff in the middle, you can slightly push it inside. Otherwise, no problems with heat and fan noise. On battery with few tweaks my fan is not kicking. Battery is awesome COMPARING to my old laptop without optimus. With enabled Battery Saver i can get out roughly 7 hours by doing office tasks.

Loved the review.

11:15 "Actually I'm going to take it off, screw it!" Don't you mean unscrew it!

16:9, the moment I closed the video.

Great work man. But would have appreciated if you could show side by side comparison like a game play or photoshop usage on both Dell xps and Hp Envy laptop.

I dig the review, and I dig the Fearless Flyers shirt too

In my experience HP makes HP killers... I've never had one that didn't die before a year of owning. One literally exploded a VRM

OH, I see The Fearless Flyers T-shirt, Alex, good taste!

This video suited you incredibly well Alex. Also the screen stuff super important and cool. Bottom line, in general, can you tell about that 'dirtiness'? Because when you did the voice over, you said something about being "too close", but I saw you just sitting there and typing at a "using my laptop" distance. So I'm not sure how much further away they want you to be from... a laptop. I'd say if the screen isn't amazing or you can tell about these things then it's not worth using it.

I could be wrong but I think you are the first to actually put the HP Envy 15 out there. I looked for months, never found anything. I'd ask reviewers if they would ever get their hands on one. Uniform response is HP does not send review units out... so I bought the XPS 9500. Oh and Dell will not even attempt a price match against the Envy 15. Curious to see some benchmarks on it, but overall I'm very satisfied with my XPS 9500.

I really like the Envy lineup. The x360 is an amazing laptop!

I almost squealed when I saw the Fearless Flyers Tshirt 🖤🖤🖤

I love how Alex casually brings microscope and discuss screen quality also Brandon's voiceover for just an unboxing video. This is LTT and I love it.

I'm honestly fascinated with this. As someone who used to be a Lenovo guy but have been using Macbooks now for a few years (for both Windows and macOS), I'd forgotten about all the little things that I just don't worry about any longer, like screen quality issues, hinge quality, and all those other little things. Oh, and 200W power bricks... wow. While the additional ports are really nice... now that I've embraced the USB-C world and I've bought all the cables ( and a USB-C dock... which is essential). I'm used to it and in some ways prefer it. You DO have to be more organized but in general... I'm not using HDMI/SD/USB-A all the time ( when undocked ).

At that price, get a zephyrus g14. It's better in a lot of ways.

I just bought that for an employee that requested a laptop. They love it.

What microscope you used to check the screens? Cool stuff!!!

the pixel layout is actually legit cool i hope they implemented this in future monitor review

I love how Alex’s audio tests are alway Crab Rave

Nice fearless flyers shirt, my dude.

Nice shirt! Gotta love me some fearless flyers and Vulf

Nice video. But I imagine the 45W CPU is too much when the GPU is also at full load during gaming, even with the vapor chamber... Do you limit the CPU wattage for gaming?

Woah, is nobody gonna talk about the fearless flyers shirt alex is wearing, took me 9 minutes to notice though

RTX off: "HP ENVY 15 2020" RTX on: *OMEN 15 2020*

Just bought this envy with the 10th gen i9/ rtx 2060 maxQ/ 32gb ram/ 2x 1tb m.2 an 4K Oled. It’s an absolute beast of a laptop. Contrary to what I expected, it does not overheat....at all !. Quiet even under heavy load( fans are surprisingly quiet) . First thing I did was to dismantle the raid O array in bios, then reinstalled windows from a thumb drive and just installed the minimal software from hp’s website somI could get the colour calibration profiles. Now I can use 1 m.2 for Windows and apps, the other m.2 for projects and scratch disk. Disk read and write is blazing fast on both drives ( +/- 3200 read +/- 2990 write) . Makes working with photoshop a breeze. Battery life, as expected is not on par with the XP’s or MacBook Pro ( around 6 hours for general use), probably would be a lot better if I used something else than Chrome for web browsing. The price for these specs completely blows out of the water any Dell, MacBook Pro or Lenovo with lesser specs. With the money saved, I was able to add another great Fujinon lens , because after all, my hobby is photography, not computer use ;)

Holy cow! Full sized ports and more than 2?! Well done HP... this is pretty awesome. Would have liked an RJ45 port but I also like the Dock-life. But: Full sized ports and more than two of them! In 2020! I might consider buying HP again... after two of their laptops randomly died on me in the past.

"there it is, it's a laptop". Alex has seen too much

The Fearless Flyers... A man with taste, I see

I like the option of a Barrel connector because if you only have usb c charging you loose a type c port. If they only provide a USB c charger, it would be nice to have an extra usb c port instead of a barrel connector in that case...

This looks very nice. I didn't expect that price when you said it. But man, this laptop has a lot. But I seriously want to know what they put micro SD card slots...especially at that size.

Aside from the screen wobble (I'd have to judge the actual screen in person), I like it. Also like seeing they adopted good cooling practices normally seen on gaming notebooks as well. This is generally the notebooks I like - not game focused, no gamer looks, but still capable of gaming in a pinch when called upon.

Repping the fearless flyers shirt I see you

HP has been on a roll the last 5 years. I have an older Envy 13 with an MX150 inside - it’s super reliable with a great screen, battery life and MacBook build quality, and can handle the occasional Starcraft 2 game. I’m actually looking at their Omen 27i monitor, which combines color accuracy with a 165hz refresh rate. Even in my office, the workstations with that “cheap” enterprise screens look great. They’ve come a long way!

Wow! I really dig the Fearless Flyers t-shirt. That's awesome!

The bottom looks very similar to omen 15

Honestly HP always disappoints me, when I started uni I needed a powerful laptop for some cad and rendering stuff and I went for the 2019 HP omen 15 because specs seemed good for the price, Long story short first one the gpu dies in 2 days, got it replaced, second one came with a screen issue and a broken fan, and third one came with a gpu with a bunch of artifacts, this over a period of a couple of weeks, so eventually I complained enough to HP that they gave me a refund rather than a replacement, so I went for the ROG Zephyrus 701GWR and that one has no issues. My friend got the 17 inch omen instead and in 2 months he got a dead gpu too, and my father has had an HP ultrabook, I think it was the specter line and that laptop was littered with issues too, HP laptops seem good on paper but in reality they are pretty bad, also customer support is a big pain

When you pulled the vapor chamber - it was connected/adhered by this black tape to the smaller radiators. Might it be a carbon thermal pad type of deal? Because THEN it might have a lot of sense.

Really appreciate the afford on the Screen Laboratory. Good Job Alex

"the way the pickles are lined up"

"There it is, it's a laptop" -Alex, 2020

Ahhh Alex back at it again with the Crab Rave speaker test a classic

Dude this looks really similar to a Razer Blade 15 White Mercury Edition! Even the insides are awesome like the Blade with the Vapor Chamber

Saying "it's very solidly built" as the monitor wobbles for literally seconds straight out of the box seems kinda weird to be honest. In 2 years, you are going to be praying that even the slightest wind wouldn't slam the display back at your hands.

"Let me just get a microscope..." I love you! 🤣

Have an Envy from 2013. Like the numeric keypad, and 17" screen. Can't imagine losing either of those. Was CDN$1100, and while I would love something better, it still works well for me. Will these things get cheaper with the nVIdia 3000 series?

I do have sony vpcf -2009 , with NVaG540 . till now great screan

Usually HP = "Heating Pad" Every HP I've owned has had a combination of heating issues, lots of fan noise, and poor battery life. The price may be ok, but if it turns out to be another paperweight, or hand-me-down to my nieces / nephews then why bother.

I'd be very interested to see the real world thermal performance of this compared to the XPS 15.

Your XPS review was awesome... You can deliver 200W over USB-C standard? Also OLED blue pixels degrade faster then the others that is why Samsung compensates.

Is that a Fearless Flyers T-Shirt ? Awesome.

I'm just waiting for the day these have AMD processors. It's so close, I can feel it. pleease

"There is something going on with screen" *Bring out a microscope* *subscribed*

What a honest and funny review !! Loved it

Would you choose this over the 2020 Razer Blade 15 Base Model for video editing? I'd like to see you do a review of the Blade 15 Base Model with the RTX 2060 or 2070... Thanks in advance!

Maybe it's different when you're in-person, but did anyone else think the HP sounded better than the XPS?

Having now used an alternative, lengthened aspect ratio for a couple of years (like 3:2 or 16:10), I'll never go back to a 16:9 again no matter how good or cheap the laptop is. While it doesn't seem like a big difference, in productivity work, it really is.

1:26 That shot was perfect for binaural sound... missed opportunity

Btw are the reviewed laptops settings checked? For example if speakers are set to the highest or higher than default frequency (usually 48khz). Because I think it's important

when even the unboxing channel for LTT pulls out a microscope.

No AMD version? sorry I'll pass. If HP drops an Envy/similar laptop with a 4000 series Renoir chip, consider me intrigued, $1600 for a laptop that could easily be made better (Lower thermals, lower power consumption and longer battery life) it could easily be closer to $1400 if they went with that specs list instead

Nice Fearless Flyers shirt, Alex!!!

09:00 that sound difference is soo noticable lol