What the Surface Laptop SHOULD’VE been - HP Elite Dragonfly G3

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ShortCircuit

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Alex needed a new laptop for CES, so HP sent over their new HP Elite Dragonfly G3 for him to check out. With a lofty pricetag and middle-of-the-road specs, is this laptop Alex's new daily driver or will this just end up in the pile of laptops at his desk?
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CHAPTERS
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0:00 Alex needs a new laptop
0:57 Unboxing
1:40 Weight, IO, and design
4:00 Sponsor - iFixit
4:23 Keyboard/Trackpad impressions
6:46 Display impressions
8:30 Battery life
9:33 Specs
10:52 Webcam quality impressions
12:07 Speaker and display comparisons
14:32 Attempting to play Valheim
15:21 Teardown
17:14 Pricing and overall thoughts
18:06 Outro

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@Iri5hman
@Iri5hman Жыл бұрын
$4,000 is actually comical
@MrRinre
@MrRinre Жыл бұрын
Probably be sold permanently at a discounted rate lol
@MiniRockerz4ever
@MiniRockerz4ever Жыл бұрын
Our nano tech producing company is huge, yes it's that bad
@searic3203
@searic3203 Жыл бұрын
@@ntnwwnet you can get 2 macs for the price of that laptop lol, thats when you know its fucked up
@a-alex-p7033
@a-alex-p7033 Жыл бұрын
@@searic3203 exactly! And those macs would outpreform it in any task! 4000 dollars?? That’s actually crazy
@GGray.
@GGray. Жыл бұрын
Target audience are corporations/executive. That's why it's priced so steeply
@ahadmrauf
@ahadmrauf Жыл бұрын
I love how dBrand basically got a callout to their products even though they're not a sponsor of this episode 😂
@defnotatroll
@defnotatroll Жыл бұрын
They're a channel sponsor. They get placement almost every time a new big phone or iPad comes out. it will somehow have a dbrand sticker on it when it's unboxed
@ZNotFound
@ZNotFound Жыл бұрын
Usually it's dbrand who sends them the product, not the product manufacturer.
@WillUlt1mate11
@WillUlt1mate11 Жыл бұрын
Secret sponsor!
@hamzarock5390
@hamzarock5390 Жыл бұрын
Robots 🤖 sure knows how to do bussiness
@Glotttis
@Glotttis Жыл бұрын
Meh I just want to see how the actual product looks like without all those repulsive plastic dbrand condoms glued all over it.
@Neoxon619
@Neoxon619 Жыл бұрын
I’m guessing it served him really well given how much coverage we got from Alex at CES.
@who_what
@who_what Жыл бұрын
that price is absolutely absurd.
@marcusciantar3407
@marcusciantar3407 Жыл бұрын
They should've led with that ...
@DX88
@DX88 Жыл бұрын
Strangely enough this exact version that Alex has is €2200 in the Netherlands (not 3800) and the i5 is €1900. I'm confused!
@laa0fa502
@laa0fa502 Жыл бұрын
@@DX88 listed as 1200 dollars on HP's website. I'm very confused
@DX88
@DX88 Жыл бұрын
@@laa0fa502 you must be looking at a different model
@pincombe
@pincombe Жыл бұрын
It was all looking so good until he got to the price.
@infernus6278
@infernus6278 Жыл бұрын
No it wasn't, that hinge is so bad it gave me anxiety. That laptop is borderline useless with that much movement on the screen. Absolute joke
@DX88
@DX88 Жыл бұрын
Strangely enough this exact version that Alex has is €2200 in the Netherlands (not 3800) and the i5 is €1900. I'm confused!
@IsiahHD
@IsiahHD Жыл бұрын
I'm sitting here wondering how this laptop is remotely comparable to a Surface Laptop that's a third of the price (how the title of this video would indicate).
@legoswmonkey7037
@legoswmonkey7037 Жыл бұрын
Based on all he's said I still would love to see Alex's thoughts on the Framework laptop
@cwestwater
@cwestwater Жыл бұрын
Same! Just got mine and I love it!
@legoswmonkey7037
@legoswmonkey7037 Жыл бұрын
@@cwestwater Kept thinking about how mine checks most of the positive points here, minus the battery
@cwestwater
@cwestwater Жыл бұрын
@@legoswmonkey7037 Exactly! Hoping they can do something about the battery in the future but my use case is mainly in the house, so power always available.
@FroxyCz
@FroxyCz Жыл бұрын
Yea this is more or less Framework with better battery, better speakers and toutch screen for double the price. To be honest was really happy with my framework purchase when Alex said the price of the HP.
@qazhr
@qazhr Жыл бұрын
I bet he has to no I not investor in frames work like my boss
@LonkiGames
@LonkiGames Жыл бұрын
Would love a video on WHY these business laptops are always so expensive
@thyeweiping9094
@thyeweiping9094 Жыл бұрын
I want to know too, my HP Probook 440 G7 total price (including warranty) was more expensive than the average laptop I would find in university and yet it only has a 720p screen. Ngl, I think that approximately $1200 for a 720p screen in 2020 is unacceptable but then my uncle bought it from his company and I got it for free anyway so whatever.
@Dadodaw
@Dadodaw Жыл бұрын
Oh simple, because people aren't buying them, businesses are, so they charge a premium.
@thyeweiping9094
@thyeweiping9094 Жыл бұрын
@@Dadodaw yeah, same reason why Apple is charging $999 for a monitor stand.
@Soap939
@Soap939 Жыл бұрын
A lot of those laptops have integration with custom docks, plus businesses buying in bulk don’t pay as much as an individual buying a business model. Quality control and part support are also much better
@jesuszayas7
@jesuszayas7 Жыл бұрын
My guess: taxes deductions.
@RevokeTheSarcasm
@RevokeTheSarcasm Жыл бұрын
There's so few laptops with windows that can rival macbooks in terms of build quality and design and when you finally find one, it costs some such a ridiculous amount of money that macbooks look like good value...
@thebravegallade731
@thebravegallade731 Жыл бұрын
Well the build quality is exactly why apple devices are expensive in the first place...
@theflash9068
@theflash9068 Жыл бұрын
@thebravegallade731 my zenbook is only 1600 cad and its as good as the macbook. Although the speakers arent loud enough. And the battery is okay... thanks Oled lol
@studiodreamken
@studiodreamken Жыл бұрын
MacBooks do seem like better value but I just do not like macos either. I wonder if some day we can run windows smoothly on m1 or m2 machines.
@Chriss120
@Chriss120 Жыл бұрын
it is silly how expensive these small laptops are.
@GGray.
@GGray. Жыл бұрын
As they should be. It takes a lot more r&d to cram smaller components. Also there's a lot of quality of life improvements that's part of it. And it is a premium laptop targeted at corporate/executives.
@anthonyschlessman1848
@anthonyschlessman1848 Жыл бұрын
@@GGray. most youtube commenters cant understand these things
@jesuszayas7
@jesuszayas7 Жыл бұрын
@@GGray. Life improvements? Executives? hahaha
@nohs8776
@nohs8776 Жыл бұрын
@@jesuszayas7 less executives, more for corporate, most of these laptops are brought as bulk by discount by big companies because they can afford them, the same type of thinking behind Apple's $1k stand or $250 wheels
@jrchannel7405
@jrchannel7405 Жыл бұрын
@@GGray. nah, it's a marketing strategy. Giving stuff high prices makes it more desirable. Just look at that fruit computer company
@cionheart
@cionheart Жыл бұрын
Can we talk about the display wobble for a second? I mean this display is reading his pulse better than my Garmin.
@rdvgrd6
@rdvgrd6 Жыл бұрын
And it’s 4000$
@pgta2004
@pgta2004 Жыл бұрын
Was going to say something about that. It's so noticeable, and did you tell me it's $4k? Hell nah.
@defnotatroll
@defnotatroll Жыл бұрын
Ultra lightness always comes some sacrifices
@Raja995mh33
@Raja995mh33 Жыл бұрын
@@defnotatroll the MacBook Air doesn't have this problem at all. And they start at 1/4 the price...
@YasinHasan
@YasinHasan Жыл бұрын
@@Raja995mh33 aaand it comes with crappy macos
@aeriumfour6096
@aeriumfour6096 Жыл бұрын
"turns out Linus is afraid of scorpions" That's a pretty reasonable phobia really, they're pretty angry boys. Source: used to own one.
@I_THE_ME
@I_THE_ME Жыл бұрын
You should review the newest HP Envy x360 since the top i7 16gb model is only $1200 and has a 66 Wh battery and a 2.8k display. That's value right there.
@alext3811
@alext3811 Жыл бұрын
Don't forget the 2-in-1 touchscreen.
@keurfonluu7434
@keurfonluu7434 Жыл бұрын
Laptops with an i7-1260P have a really bad battery life. I have a Lenovo Yoga 9i with 75 Wh battery, and the battery life is ridiculous.
@ivell5
@ivell5 Жыл бұрын
@@keurfonluu7434 well you can get the i5 version
@keurfonluu7434
@keurfonluu7434 Жыл бұрын
@@ivell5 Issue is with the P version of 12th gen processors, i5-1240P also suffers from poor battery life.
@ivell5
@ivell5 Жыл бұрын
@@keurfonluu7434 oh good to know!
@scorch527
@scorch527 Жыл бұрын
I've utterly refused to buy laptops I need dongles for, and I'm hoping that stupid trend will finally end. Great to see full size HDMI and Type A on this. EDIT: though that price for a 1080p screen is absolutely insane!
@I_THE_ME
@I_THE_ME Жыл бұрын
Yeah, that's about double the price than what I expected. I wonder if the Envy series has a model that has most of the features.
@faustinpippin9208
@faustinpippin9208 Жыл бұрын
you wont notice higher resolutions on such a small screen anyway...
@a-alex-p7033
@a-alex-p7033 Жыл бұрын
@@I_THE_ME it’s triple the price what I expected!. Almost $3800?? Like that’s crazy. And it’s not even preforming any good. I’d rather get macbook that will outpreform it in any task for $2000 cheaper
@J_Echoes
@J_Echoes Жыл бұрын
@I_THE_ME I've got the HP Spectre x360 14, it's pretty similar (13.5 3:2 display, same weight, awesome battery life). Think it's basically the same but with less ports and enterprise features and touchscreen+360° hinge. It's the immediately superior tier to the Envys, and it costs less than half the price than the Elitebook, so there's that!
@AzVfL
@AzVfL Жыл бұрын
@@faustinpippin9208 it's way less than retina, small text will look unsharp
@thabitpulak
@thabitpulak Жыл бұрын
One thing I notice is that the screen lid shakes a lot - whereas the MacBooks have always had very solid screen stability
@screener0797
@screener0797 Жыл бұрын
BuT iTs NoT mAc Os, mAcOs TrAsH. (Obviously joking)
@mikemcmike6427
@mikemcmike6427 Жыл бұрын
Yaaa that was driving me nuts. Even in further away shots you could tell it was shaking like crazy.
@xmlthegreat
@xmlthegreat Жыл бұрын
That's HP for you, garbage hinges
@mplovecraft
@mplovecraft Жыл бұрын
It's one of those small things that matters a lot. My old laptop was like that and I made sure my new didn't.
@iowawalker
@iowawalker Жыл бұрын
You shaking your laptop often? I certainly do not. I had the flappiest screen of all time on Yoga 730, and it only bothered me like 2 times in the past 5 years. I really don't understand what is your use case if flappy display is something of importance for you. Maybe working on a train or bus, but that's it.
@DarkCloud360
@DarkCloud360 Жыл бұрын
That display wiggles like crazy
@net-42
@net-42 Жыл бұрын
the F2 key is set aside for HP's privacy filter (Sureview panel). I would imagine if you got a model with that on the display the keyboard would have the F2 key labelled as such.
@Nathan-oh7sv
@Nathan-oh7sv Жыл бұрын
Doesn't a software controlled privacy shutter on the webcam defeat the purpose of a privacy shutter?
@DX88
@DX88 Жыл бұрын
No because you can actually see if it's active or not. If the shutter is on top of the camera, no software can look trough it.
@MijeshDeuja
@MijeshDeuja Жыл бұрын
This made me like my $1000 MacBook Air even more.
@Thalestr
@Thalestr Жыл бұрын
Yup. The M1 and M2 Air are basically this laptop but a grand or more cheaper. They also look much nicer.
@veilsyndicate3141
@veilsyndicate3141 Жыл бұрын
and there wayyyyy more capable, and if u have to have windows, just use VM even that VM is faster then the Dragonfly
@DarkKingTube
@DarkKingTube Жыл бұрын
@@veilsyndicate3141 parallels of mac makes windows app run like native. it is vm tho but if you run it in exclusive mode, you wouldn't even notice it's a vm
@kamehameha38
@kamehameha38 Жыл бұрын
@@DarkKingTube So I could run Windows on anm1 MacBook air?
@littlebigparardise9245
@littlebigparardise9245 Жыл бұрын
@@veilsyndicate3141 yeah, even with the base config of 8gb, splitting 4gb with windows, it'll prob still run better in games than this overpriced shit
@sergarlantyrell7847
@sergarlantyrell7847 Жыл бұрын
I love that under the glass webcam shutter, it's the slickest solution I've ever seen (that, or physically disconnecting the wires).
@fukov3400
@fukov3400 Жыл бұрын
Nobody tell Alex spacebar functions as pause/play. It'll be funny.
@Daniel6254
@Daniel6254 Жыл бұрын
Yeah but not when spotify is running in the background
@tjl2836
@tjl2836 Жыл бұрын
You can configure the touchpad so a tap with 4 fingers will pause/play and 4 finger slide will change volume
@Josh17_94
@Josh17_94 Жыл бұрын
That price is utterly insane
@Lonewolf_121
@Lonewolf_121 Жыл бұрын
Hp are definitely getting it right business wise, company I work for have been changing over from surface laptop 3's to hp (similar to this laptop but a generation older, with I want to say better performance and like... Half the price if you were to buy it outright... ) the screen is worse than the surface but everything else is just better. If you're in the office they have 27" monitors with usbc power delivery and they will supply you with a monitor at home as well so I'm pretty sure most people are hardly using the laptop screen so it works well for us (also I assume it's a cheaper contract, the buy price was like 1-200 less than the updated surface). Though I do miss that alcantara finish.
@ACE112ACE112
@ACE112ACE112 Жыл бұрын
I feel like gaming laptops would have a lot better performance to price ratio
@tbrenneke
@tbrenneke Жыл бұрын
Great review. Was looking for a Macbook Air equivalent running windows and this is as good as it gets for Windows. Definitely has to operate at 125% resolution to be usable (defaults to 150%), would be great to see the next version with a higher PPI.
@BTAJoe
@BTAJoe Жыл бұрын
I still want to see Anthony do a series of videos on running Linux (Fedora, Ubuntu, Mint, Arch) on superior hardware like this. Which machine is the best one to remove windows and install the Penguin?
@idle404
@idle404 Жыл бұрын
I picked up the M1 MacBook Pro 14" brand new for $1,599. Even though I prefer Windows, I can't find any other laptop that is better value than that.
@topmech71
@topmech71 Жыл бұрын
Exactly...I'm a Windows user too, but it's hard to beat a MacBook. You won't find a better display, probably the best speakers out there, os support on devices for years and better security.
@makasete30
@makasete30 Жыл бұрын
Preferences aside-MacBooks have some clear strengths with battery life, camera, standby, screen, sound, performance, trackpad, thermals, quiet,and ports are back. That notch is an eyesore, though, and has no place on a laptop.
@mikemcmike6427
@mikemcmike6427 Жыл бұрын
@@makasete30 mehhh I don’t notice mine. And there is a free app that gets rid of it. You don’t really lose anything because that area would be taken up by the menu bar. Or by black bars watching a video
@summushieremiasclarkson4700
@summushieremiasclarkson4700 Жыл бұрын
@@mikemcmike6427 Yeah, r/apple loves tho throw that out. His point is that it's ugly as shit, and I concur. Big black wart in the middle.
@DenOfTimbsllc
@DenOfTimbsllc Жыл бұрын
Amen, nothing better the the M1 Pro.
@BNnnen
@BNnnen Жыл бұрын
just use powertoys to remap the f2 key to pause/play
@belltalkstrash
@belltalkstrash Жыл бұрын
I would like Alex to make his own dedicated video explaining why "MacOS is garbage" - I feel like being sponsored to showcase a product, and being sent that product for free, should be subject to the same impartial journalism as anything else, and a brash statement like that needs some further explanation.
@SpongeAndLeo
@SpongeAndLeo Жыл бұрын
Having watched a decent number of their videos, it mostly boils down to "they don't use macos enough"
@RohanaChris
@RohanaChris Жыл бұрын
I agree, I know he doesn’t like macOS but there have never been any details. It seems all his complaints would not be an issue on Mac. I am guessing he just like to hate on Mac without any actual reason.
@SpongeAndLeo
@SpongeAndLeo Жыл бұрын
@@RohanaChris I'd bet it's the apple hate for their repair stance.
@leziox8229
@leziox8229 Жыл бұрын
100% agree. The only statement from him I saw from him so far is you can’t do two externals screens on a MacBook. But if I remember well, on Macaddress that problem was debunked and solved. When a 4000$ laptop is the only winner against a 2000$ MacBook. At that price, the MacBook is a no-brainer. He needs a 30-day MacBook challenge.
@mfe888
@mfe888 Жыл бұрын
Well what do you expect this channel knows their audience are Apple haters and therefore do everything they can to cater to them. They know that if they tell the truth about MacOS they would alienate the PC gamer audience. So far I have not seen any laptop that even comes close to the balance the Mac lineup provides, meaning not just performance but also efficiency, build quality, etc. They also never mention how windows laptop's performance absolutely tanks when unplugged, while Macbooks do not lose any performance. Well I guess they can enjoy their Windows Modern Standby lol.
@subhromallick2486
@subhromallick2486 Жыл бұрын
Alex, we in India have this laptop from Fujitsu called UH-X. It is apparently superlight at under 900gms for the Intel Core i5 models. If possible, do make a ShortCircuit video about that laptop if you can ever get your hands on one. Apparently an entirely assembled and made in Japan product.
@WillFuI
@WillFuI Жыл бұрын
I got the hp aero 13 with the r5 and 16gb of ram. I have adjusted to tdp to 8w and man this thing lasts so long
@davepenno
@davepenno Жыл бұрын
Was going to buy an hp laptop recently but there were no models I liked with a UK keyboard so went for the galaxy book pro 2 in 1 and loving it
@davepenno
@davepenno Жыл бұрын
@Tango_sixteen I needed something fairly quickly and the amoled screen is amazing at 1080 on 13". I got it £400 lower than RRP from a reputable retail company. I'm really happy with it.
@dernichtberliner7977
@dernichtberliner7977 Жыл бұрын
F2 on HP Eltiobook/Probook is reserved for privacy screen, if you have it. You can also turn of the function that dims your screen when it´s in power saving mode
@aniketbilenia8740
@aniketbilenia8740 Жыл бұрын
You could have used that programmable function key to quickly toggle between battery saver. Within a week it will just be a part of routine to press that key before closing the lid. Nice info, now I'll create a similar macro for any modern standby device I use.
@nothingnothing2532
@nothingnothing2532 Жыл бұрын
These things are amazing for work, I use an elite book that is slightly larger and I'm trying to upgrade to one of these. A light weight laptop that fits into my purse is vital when I need to hustle across the building to make that last minute meeting. Guys might be able to get away with a hoodie, backpack, and sneakers; I wear a suit, a nice handbag, and heels.
@bobbabouie91
@bobbabouie91 Жыл бұрын
Or you could just…carry your laptop? I can’t think of any work meeting where I’ve shown up and women had purses at all, let alone ones they were carrying laptops in. They just took carried them to the meeting. The only purpose I could see of needing to carry it in your purse is if you were traveling to meet an external party for a meeting, and in that case 99% of the time it would not be appropriate for a guy to be wearing a hoodie and sneakers. Nice try with the “men bad, woman life harder” schtick though.
@xmlthegreat
@xmlthegreat Жыл бұрын
The matte screen is just terrible. And the price is truly ridiculous.
@makwikus
@makwikus Жыл бұрын
Hi, Alex! I'm guessing LG didn't invite you to their booth to take a look at the new Gram line up?
@zdanee
@zdanee Жыл бұрын
I've got the 2020 Envy X360 with the 4000 series Ryzen, and for the most part I think I have all the benefits you got with this one here, but I also have a pen-enabled touchscreen that has a transflective layer so I can turn off the backlight in direct sunlight and still see everything while using almost no power. Also I think my games run better. Oh, and it was $800 last year on sale.
@SStarlight9614
@SStarlight9614 Жыл бұрын
Wish my elitebook had that feature, it would save me so much battery life when I'm outside sitting on the swing
@lisphm
@lisphm Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure you can remove the heat shield over the SSD. I did it on my two HP laptops and it worked fine.
@supaschwamal
@supaschwamal Жыл бұрын
I noticed a lot of screen wobble in the video. Is it comaparble to other laptops or is it worse?
@mikemcmike6427
@mikemcmike6427 Жыл бұрын
I’m Literally shaking the bottom of my MacBook getting less wobble than that
@martins4079
@martins4079 Жыл бұрын
I wondered what the problem with modern standby is as I always have my surface on battery saving mode ^^
@DX88
@DX88 Жыл бұрын
They did a whole video about that issue and how to fix it, a month ago, on the LTT channel.
@jceggbert5
@jceggbert5 Жыл бұрын
I have another hp laptop with a similarly 'crappy' display. It's only 6-bit color depth. However, it is great for doing business-y work on. Very gentle on the eyes, even in suboptimal lighting. Office, email, and browsing is great. CAD (solidworks) is fine. This is a premium business machine, and I think the screen is the right choice.
@charles20asselin
@charles20asselin Жыл бұрын
I really enjoy Alex quick laptop review
@zodywoolsey
@zodywoolsey Жыл бұрын
The most surprising part of this video is learning that people actually use the media keys on windows lol. I actually hate how many laptops don't allow you to set the function keys to default to just being normal function keys, I hate when I go start a debug session or use some shortcut I'm used to and the laptop suddenly starts playing some random media or opens the browser.
@tundmatudiivan5916
@tundmatudiivan5916 Жыл бұрын
Sometimes you can switch the default to function keys in the bios, maybe try that if you're having this problem.
@Anfros.
@Anfros. Жыл бұрын
Having the function row default to the function keys or having something like fn-lock is a must have for me. Even for non-developers the function keys are super important for text editing and spreadsheets, and gaming as well.
@jcfawerd
@jcfawerd Жыл бұрын
If I remember correctly, you can use fn lock in thinkpad to make sure those function keys stay f1-f12
@benjaminnhlam2867
@benjaminnhlam2867 Жыл бұрын
With how long Force Touch has been around (since 2016) in Apple products, any touchpads that are not haptic are a no-go for me, let alone "phenomenal". Once you've experienced the ability to click with consistent feedback anywhere on the touchpad, there's no going back.
@sturdybutter
@sturdybutter Жыл бұрын
Someone tell Alex to stop using Valheim to benchmark. Nobody plays that game anymore.
@killianlobato27
@killianlobato27 Жыл бұрын
to believe battery time, i'd like to see what the CPU wattage is. Also, when connected to AC, does the laptop easily thottle, i.e. does the PL1 value change. For examples, on my dell XPS 13 9310, the PL1 level is 28W. However, if I dock it and thus do not open the lid, the PL1 value can easily come down to 14W. Fans have to be turned up to max to get a contanct PL1 value of 28W.
@NathanBudd
@NathanBudd Жыл бұрын
$3789 for a glorified netbook with a 3:2 screen?! I'd geniunely love to know why you couldn't use a MacBook Air for CES? If it's simply displaying scripts as you said, it would be fine with that and the battery is phenomenal. I use a Mac for work, and Windows at home. Both OS have their pros and cons, but reading from the screen isn't a con from either.
@XtrAMassivE
@XtrAMassivE Жыл бұрын
I think he was clear that he doesn't want a Macbook. Besides he didn't pay for it.
@NathanBudd
@NathanBudd Жыл бұрын
@@XtrAMassivE I wasn't being argumentative. He said specifically that it was MacOS that he didn't like, and I was just curious as to what was the issue.
@Puzzlers100
@Puzzlers100 Жыл бұрын
I have an XPS13 9370 dev, and everytime I hear someone complain about the new XPS I check if it's an issue on my laptop and it seems like it never is (except the USB A thing, But I'm wiling to give them a pass on that). Dell is apperently just regressing with the XPS line.
@tedubadu2536
@tedubadu2536 Жыл бұрын
I really don’t know what I’m missing. Except for Excel, I generally feel more productive and it’s more pleasant living in the macOS environment. Windows and macOS are both fairly mediocre operating systems at the end of the day…
@TidusfromZanarkand
@TidusfromZanarkand Жыл бұрын
1:15 ok, that's sick!! I don't even have a laptop but I want this sticker
@CrystallineLore
@CrystallineLore Жыл бұрын
starting at almost $3k USD... what the literal fack? At that price point, it BETTER be among the best, jeeze. And that also means you had ZERO business comparing it to the surface pro laptop 5, which starts nearly $2k cheaper...
@DX88
@DX88 Жыл бұрын
Just ordered the i7 version for €1500. Pretty sure Alex didn't check the prices.
@grammy2838
@grammy2838 Жыл бұрын
MacOS is pretty nice once you sort out the preferences and install a few utilities. Windows has a lot of janky stuff that’s been left in the OS for the sake of compatibility e.g. multiple layers of settings menus and device management interfaces. If you don’t need specific windows-only apps then MacBooks make a lot of sense for work, especially now that Apple put good processors in their entry models and Windows alternatives have similar pricing. It used to be a totally different market dynamic.
@GP1138
@GP1138 Жыл бұрын
Y'know, I've used MacOS so long that I am pretty used to it, and I'm not sure what the intense hate is for, especially when Windows is in such a scattered, sorry state at the moment. Probably the walled garden, the weird limitations... maybe I just don't game as much as most. But it's really a lot of personal preference. It initially annoys me when hosts on LTT just trash MacOS, but I get over it pretty quick when I think about it for more than a second and go on using what I like to use. *shrug*
@jorgemedinagarcia3892
@jorgemedinagarcia3892 Жыл бұрын
@@GP1138 MacOS doesn't natively support volume changing for individual programs. It is that garbage.
@GP1138
@GP1138 Жыл бұрын
OK? Sure, that kinda sucks, but I can count on one hand the times I've had to do that. MacOS isn't garbage because of that one feature missing. You just personally don't like it because it's missing that feature.
@alexanderclark9719
@alexanderclark9719 Жыл бұрын
"If you don't need specific windows-only apps"... this is exactly my problem. So many of the engineering things I do require Windows.
@GP1138
@GP1138 Жыл бұрын
I do have a Windows 11 VM I run once in awhile, so I definitely have felt that. It's few and far between though.
@alles_klar
@alles_klar Жыл бұрын
I have a work HP laptop with the same F11 Airplane Mode shortcut and it happens to me ALL THE TIME. Glad to know I'm not alone.
@ebsolas
@ebsolas Жыл бұрын
Holy resolution batman. That webcam is amazing. Good job HP. Dang
@eggzaki
@eggzaki Жыл бұрын
That much screen wobble is unforgivable in any laptop more than $600
@16jms
@16jms Жыл бұрын
I've literally never, ever in my entire life used a pause/play button on a laptop. Then again, never used airplane mode on a laptop either.
@AndrazAntonic
@AndrazAntonic Жыл бұрын
Most audio/video progs use spacebar as a pause/play button
@MiniRockerz4ever
@MiniRockerz4ever Жыл бұрын
@@AndrazAntonic True that
@16jms
@16jms Жыл бұрын
@@AndrazAntonic Exactly.
@Kay_Emm_
@Kay_Emm_ Жыл бұрын
I saw the non-elite dragonfly G4 advertised on their website with 13th gen. Is this the same line of laptops?
@flubba86
@flubba86 Жыл бұрын
What about the 14" Dell Precision 5470? You reviewed that a few months ago. My boss is getting me one for work. Would that have been a good candidate for replacing your 15" XPS?
@marcustmusic
@marcustmusic Жыл бұрын
I love how some of these computers make Apple’s tech look cheap in comparison and Apple is pricy AF. And with my personal experience with HP, I wouldn’t give them another penny no matter how “solid”-which is a very generous term-their tech is. Anytime I’ve dealt with HP, I feel misery but that $2,7-something starting price for those specs ain’t worth it. But sense these laptops generally target enterprise customers who’s money isn’t an issue, I’m sure it would be at benefit. I just would’ve trust HP for anything unless you hate yourself
@entryofemotion12
@entryofemotion12 Жыл бұрын
I echo the horrendous dealings with HP. Trying to get a workstation laptop that actually worked from them was a hassle and a half. Had to send it in TWICE for overheating problems, then when i got it back the 2nd time they called me and told me I needed to perform a BIOS update(They didn't even do it themselves!) which made the problems WORSE. They ended up sending a tech to my house to repair it. Man had to just replace the motherboard with a replacement, and it ended up working better after that. Not perfect, but at least it wasn't overheating anymore. But lots of money to mail it in for repairs and lots of wasted time when I could've been working for school just made it not worth it. Even with a Quadro P5000 in it, it was too much hassle and my desktop at the time was pretty close to equivalent. So I sold it and bought myself a decent gaming laptop instead, with some money leftover.
@ericneo2
@ericneo2 Жыл бұрын
Sees the price... Jonothan Jostar: OOH MY GOD. IT: That's the budget for 3, close to 4 laptops.
@xxzmk
@xxzmk Жыл бұрын
i use a HP ZBook as a Work Device. I honestly think after owning a XPS a MacBook of several generations. The modern HP Keyboards in their notebooks are so good, that I minimally do almost no mistakes while using it. Though I am a German and use an ISO Layout QWERTZ which is a good standard for us which is not apparent for US keyboards because they are generally ANSI Layout and that just annoys me to the moon.
@samadhussain3646
@samadhussain3646 10 ай бұрын
Love watching your reviews because they're so detailed and insightful. However, why do you guys use the dancing crab video in every sound test video xD
@jmoralesh
@jmoralesh Жыл бұрын
I think airplane mode key it's the most useless key that, for some reason, every laptop manufacturer decide to include. Seriously, why, I can't think of a single scenario when you need to turn on airplane mode so fucking fast that you need a key for it.
@Batoutta
@Batoutta Жыл бұрын
Wtf is that price tag???
@FhsDhf0
@FhsDhf0 Жыл бұрын
Great video as always. Just to expand the comment section, I shall add, that me personally actually uses the "airplane mode" button on my HP envy multiple times a day during commuting. So that is a valid reason for me to keep buying HPs personally. The "play/pause" less often, because of smartphones. Subscribes and loves, *.
@NormanF62
@NormanF62 Жыл бұрын
ULV dual core processor. Your Elite is a step below my entry level HP ZBook mobile workstation and you have to forgo quad core for light weight and a long battery life ultrabook. Pretty good for the price!
@LocaLGh0sT
@LocaLGh0sT Жыл бұрын
I will probably buy this in 8 years from now.
@roronoanoa7275
@roronoanoa7275 Жыл бұрын
I’m not a Mac guy, but I’d rather buy a MBP for half the price.
@Zerotrone
@Zerotrone Жыл бұрын
Hey Alex, I have a question. What would the battery life be if you set the resolution of the 4k OLED version to 1080p? Also, do you guys consider using Dolby Atmos? I'm not sure about this, but I think Apple uses their software to equalize their speakers.
@reoencarcelado5904
@reoencarcelado5904 Жыл бұрын
All I know about it is that the-battery-life would be better because you’re not working your-LCD-monitor so darn hard. 👉 (yes I’m referring to the built-in monitor on the laptop; the screen’s just part of the monitor. That’s-why I said “the monitor”: because I was referring-to the whole darn shebang).
@jarredgallaher2643
@jarredgallaher2643 Жыл бұрын
When is the backpack getting updated? the zipper pulls broke off and are sharp still!
@Hollowtriangles
@Hollowtriangles Жыл бұрын
"Hey look it's a windows laptop that's competetive with the macbook pro" - very interesting "It's twice the price" - ah. but of course.
@yerielzamora
@yerielzamora Жыл бұрын
Alex as usual reminding me that I have small hands (or his are huge). I've always found 13" is a good size for typing (unless they try to cram a numpad in there).
@maximilianmorse9697
@maximilianmorse9697 Жыл бұрын
You can pause/play by tapping with four fingers if your laptop doesn't have a button for it
@xscorpionxz
@xscorpionxz Жыл бұрын
The underscreen camera is really good :O
@ipertatosellinas615
@ipertatosellinas615 Жыл бұрын
Looks nice! Whished it had an AMD version of it.
@Knowbody42
@Knowbody42 Жыл бұрын
There is the Elitebook 845 G9 and Elitebook 865 G9. You can get it with a Ryzen 6800U, and it has USB4 support. The screen is not 3:2, but it's 16:10 (1920x1200), and the RAM is replaceable, unlike most Ryzen 6000 series laptops.
@thyeweiping9094
@thyeweiping9094 Жыл бұрын
They showed the HP Dragonfly Pro at CES and that was supposedly the consumer version of this and it will be cheaper.
@BravoCharleses
@BravoCharleses Жыл бұрын
Suggestion for future reviews: Add a webcam test that determines how well the setup handles people with darker complexions. I tried a recent Lenovo that worked great for my ghost-like visage but was essentially unusable for anybody with skin browner than a paper bag.
@pauhull
@pauhull Жыл бұрын
They can't afford it anyway
@BravoCharleses
@BravoCharleses Жыл бұрын
@@pauhull Who can't afford what?
@RumbleKar
@RumbleKar Жыл бұрын
That's the best laptop webcam I've ever seen reviewed on this channel
@chettiarsirusraj9501
@chettiarsirusraj9501 Жыл бұрын
I haven't had any windows modern standby issues causing my battery to get completely drained. I have a 16inch Acer laptop(bought in February 2019) with an i5-9300H quad core hyperthreaded CPU,4GB VRAM variant GTX 1650,8Gb Single Sodeem memory running at 2666Mhz, and 1TB WD NVME Storage as two 512GB drives in Raid 0. Laptop screen Full Hd 1080p with 60Hz refresh rate. I don't have windows sleep state control's on my laptop but rather I have something better at least for me. On my laptop, I have Power and sleep settings control instead that allows me to set a time limit after which my laptop screen and then the laptop itself will go to sleep independently/separately on their own and I can also set it for when it's on battery and when it's plugged into the power (as two separate settings) [(screen or laptop separately) and when on (battery or plugged-in power)] haven't had battery drop by more than 2% to 5% on the actual battery percentage itself in like 8hrs to 10hrs of the laptop being in sleep mode on battery power only. I'll say that if viewers of the show have problems with windows modern standby on their laptops and other windows devices and also have (Power and Sleep control settings on their windows devices then check them and set them up to their preference according to how much they can adjust the settings time amounts in the available minute's increments). Hope this help some people who are struggling with Window's modern standby and are having battery drainage on their devices.
@SpookySkeletonGang
@SpookySkeletonGang Жыл бұрын
This with a 2256x1504 screen resolution at 90hz would be my dream.
@viper627
@viper627 Жыл бұрын
Why that specific resolution? What aspect ratio is that? Sorry I'm too sleepy to do the math
@ondrejbrandejsky5592
@ondrejbrandejsky5592 Жыл бұрын
@@viper627 2:3
@faustinpippin9208
@faustinpippin9208 Жыл бұрын
why do you need so many pixels on such a small screen? and why people love the square ratios so much? The black bars when watching videos are depressing
@PluralPaul
@PluralPaul Жыл бұрын
Wait, are you telling me there are people who DON'T use the spacebar or mouse for pause/play? 6:17
@darkywarky
@darkywarky Жыл бұрын
Those special hotkeys can usually pause a video/song that's not in the current widow, unlike the spacebar.
@AzVfL
@AzVfL Жыл бұрын
You tell me you don't multitask?
@PluralPaul
@PluralPaul Жыл бұрын
@@AzVfL Unfortunately not with KZfaq. If I wanna internalize something, I need to give it my full, undivided attention. Good points all around, though 👈👆👉👇
@shrinkingshrimp
@shrinkingshrimp Жыл бұрын
So I just bought a Zenbook 14X OLED UM5401, *with a Ryzen 5600H, 16GB LPDDR4X, 512 GB SSD, 550 nit 16:10 2.8K 90hz Pantone validated OLED , zero flex, very good keyboard, 100 W charger from the factory, USB C charging, yeah yeah, it doesn't have TB, only 2x USB 3.2 Gen2 Type C, and a 3.2 Gen2 Type A, Full HDMI, MicroSD, and a combo Jack as IO, and the battery is just 63Wh (but so far it never gave up on me, I actually like to use it from battery) FOR AROUND 860 EUROS (it was on sale the full price was around 1060 EUR)* AND I'M FURIUS THAT EVERYONE ACTS LIKE IT DOESN'T EXISTS.
@BrianG61UK
@BrianG61UK Жыл бұрын
Oh come on. What software doesn't let you use the space-bar as pause/play?
@romanburic6956
@romanburic6956 Жыл бұрын
No, it is not exceptional if it has a trashy screen, chipset that can be described as "meh" and at the same time it costs around 4k. It is ridiculous price and not that great value for money.
@adityakhanna2840
@adityakhanna2840 Жыл бұрын
Honestly over the past few years I've noticed that LMG has become less of what it used to be and more pointing out things that the specific narrator doesn't like, things that have seemingly no significance or opinions that are quite literally 1 percenters. These also keep changing narrator to narrator. You can't come to these group of channels expecting simple and unbiased information and instead you have to deal with keeping in mind something like "Oh it's Riley today he isn't as polished in the tech aspect of things, I better watch out"
@trietnguyen8108
@trietnguyen8108 Жыл бұрын
The display low response rate… could low battery mode affect it?
@j5d
@j5d Жыл бұрын
I have the dragonfly elite at work - love that little laptop
@Formulka
@Formulka Жыл бұрын
those speakers are pretty damn impressive
@tbunreall
@tbunreall Жыл бұрын
At what cost though, almost 4 grand lol
@pimhls
@pimhls Жыл бұрын
One of the things about the Function keys missing a Play/Pause key should be mentioned. Seeing as this laptop is oriented at business/corporate use (like the Elitebook series), there is probably no need for media keys. No business laptop below 15,6" (ThinkPads, Elitebooks, Latitudes) have them to my knowledge (whereas ThinkPads at 15,6" usually have them above the numpad). HP doesn't have the F2 key assigned to any function key to my knowledge to allow for easy file renaming. Having used refurbished business laptops a lot, a clear F2 key is so beneficial to not have to press Fn + F2 every time I want to use the keybind to rename a file.
@TrioLOLGamers
@TrioLOLGamers Жыл бұрын
8:50 OMG. Okay, so i probably have an idea: under Power plans you can edit when battery saver starts. The only problem is the limit on CPU...
@elricbeaudoin7847
@elricbeaudoin7847 Жыл бұрын
Amazing job by Dbrand. That scorpion is insane! 👌🏻😂
@DesuVR
@DesuVR Жыл бұрын
DBrand doesn't even sell skins for HP laptops, WTF?!
@tedubadu2536
@tedubadu2536 Жыл бұрын
Huh?!?? Nearly 4k … for this…?
@AloofBaloo
@AloofBaloo Жыл бұрын
I thought the space bar was always for Pause/Play? I've never had those function keys either, and I use HP, MSI, Dell, and Lenovo laptops daily for various purposes.
@DX88
@DX88 Жыл бұрын
That doesn't work if your media is not the window you're looking at. Like most of the time you're not looking at your spotify.
@Anutosh13
@Anutosh13 Жыл бұрын
What is that CPU in the back, is there a secondary screen build on it??
@DogLifeXtreme
@DogLifeXtreme Жыл бұрын
Please let Alex do a personal opinion video on macOS, would be great!
@davidbelecci6970
@davidbelecci6970 Жыл бұрын
As a mainly long term Windows user, I would say MacOS is really quite okay. It’s optimization and stability is amazing (which of course it should be since it’s only running on a small number of Apple controlled devices). You just need to get used to it, it’s limitations and possibilities, learn a complete new workflow from program management to shortcuts, investigate and discover all the handy tools and apps (that make MacOS better or are alternatives for their Windows counterparts) etc. For real basic stuff MacOS may be “user friendly”, and “accessible”, but for power users the learning curve coming from Windows is steep. (Well… at least it’s more consistent than the hot mess Windows 10/11 bring.) All this is hard and unpractical if u have work that needs to get done. I think that is Alex’s problem.
@DogLifeXtreme
@DogLifeXtreme Жыл бұрын
@@davidbelecci6970 but I want Alex's opinion and not yours. Sry :/
@makasete30
@makasete30 Жыл бұрын
@@DogLifeXtreme he doesn’t like it. He said it’s trash. Unless you want a video where he explains why he doesn’t like it. But we have enough rants like those on KZfaq, in my opinion, and then the apple haters and fanboys bitch fight in the comments.
@or1on89
@or1on89 Жыл бұрын
It would be junk, because it's a biased trend for the clicks...
@dylanewelch
@dylanewelch Жыл бұрын
My unsolicited thoughts on apple: They make incredible hardware that they proceed to load with junk software. My hack? 2015 MacBook air running windows 10 natively. Boots directly into windows. MacOS is gone completely. By far my favorite windows laptop I've used. It's sad that it's a Mac. 🤣🤣
@lilstubthumb
@lilstubthumb Жыл бұрын
Starts at $2700 with an i5?!?! I thought maybe $1500. Max.
@JoseHerradez
@JoseHerradez Жыл бұрын
Why would you need a pause/play when you click with three fingers the trackpad and does the same thing?
@jzzsxm
@jzzsxm Жыл бұрын
Anemic! Awesome word. Going to use it this week.
@politta
@politta Жыл бұрын
What does Alex needs on a laptop for CES that the macbook can't do? If he got an M1/M2 Macbook Air the battery would last forever with just researching and writing scripts. It would also be cheaper. Seems like he's just not used to MacOS, so he calls it garbage haha
@BriefNerdOriginal
@BriefNerdOriginal Жыл бұрын
Did you just compare the weight of a 15" laptop vs. the 13.5" HP laptop?! 🤨
@Nam3Iess
@Nam3Iess Жыл бұрын
Looks good and I guess all of Your issues with the display are caused by that stupid privacy shield. When I was choosing a new ultrabook I did decide between one HP with the privacy shield or an Acer Spin 5, the Spin 5 (2020) had a "regular" display also with a 3:2 (2256x1504) aspect ratio so I did choose it over the HP. I still love this thing until today.
@vanish85
@vanish85 Жыл бұрын
Alex, use configure the trackpad gestures on Windows to play/pause on 3 finger tap and volume up/down on 3 finger swipe. It’s way better than any dedicated fn key, imho
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