Did I destroy a DR650 Engine?

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Dino’s Tinker Shed, S2 Ep41-. Did I destroy a DR650 Engine?
In this episode I tackle a question I get sometimes and that is, how often do you make mistakes and how bad are they? Well today I will show you one of the worst mistakes I have made, and I just happened to capture it on video when I first started this channel.
It has taken me quite a while to show this footage to the public as it is somewhat embarrassing however I think it is important to show how easy it is to make a mistake and that it is not the end of the world when one happens.
During one of the first videos that I produced, I got a bit too focused on filming and not enough on the task at hand. This led to me pulling out the drain bolt threads on the bottom of a DR650 engine, leaving me in a state of horror. I was unsure of what to do next however in the end I was able to fix it and there was little harm done.
As always, I have included time code chapters for you to skip around if you find yourself in a similar situation.
TIME CODE CHAPTERS:
00:00- Cold Opening
01:31- Introduction
01:50- Overview
04:35- All about a bolt
07:03- Poor image quality
08:31- How to destroy a drain bolt thread
11:02- Stress relief
11:10- Re-cap of damage
11:41- Other ways to repair
13:23- Using a threaded insert, my way to repair
16:46- how the insert works
17:15- What’s in the kit?
18:00- Tapping the hole
20:38- Modifying the tap
22:29- Installing the insert
25:17- Flushing the sump
27:37- Checking for leaks
28:07- Final thoughts
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@helifixer206 Жыл бұрын

I am an aircraft mechanic and have learned a couple things that can help anyone. 1. If you are pulling really hard and something isn't coming out the way it should, stop, think and re-evaluate what you are doing. 2. If you are going for a longer wrench or a hammer also stop and think before you go ahead. Seems like it takes more time to think but not having to fix or replace things takes less time than stopping to think. Everyone makes mistakes even guys that do this stuff for a living have the occasional incident... I am a newbie DR650 guy and I really like your videos, they are very well done. I find the torque specification for that drain plug feels really high for my hand. I leave it a little under the recommended torque but I also safety wire the plug so the worst I will ever get is a slow leak. Thanks for your time making these videos, I appreciate it!

@DinosTinkerShed Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed the videos and thanks for your feedback and advise. Dino

@craiglortie4245 Жыл бұрын

It's a wise man who can admit his mistake.

@chasinggeckos8843 Жыл бұрын

Oh my goodness. I was screaming at my screen. I have done this all to often. Totally one of the easiest things to do. I have gotten in the habit of giving my ratchet a twist with my hand to make sure. Thanks for sharing

@DinosTinkerShed Жыл бұрын

LOL it can happen to anyone, thanks for the comment, sorry to make you scream 😉 Dino

@bike_build_wander 14 күн бұрын

My mistakes are my best learning lessons, although they usually cost dearly. My bud and I almost ruined a DR650 Mikuni t40 carb by trying to press out a part that did NOT need to be removed. The local mechanic had a good laugh at us when we brought it in. Live and learn, thanks for your honesty.

@DinosTinkerShed 12 күн бұрын

I was told once the only people who don't make mistakes are those that don't do anything, LOL thanks for sharing. Dino

@aussiefarmer8741 Жыл бұрын

Good on you Dino, it takes a big man to publicly admit his mistakes. I thought that tap would hit something up inside the motor. Great vid.

@TheDrewboy84 Жыл бұрын

Good on you mate! The fact that you are even showing this footage really shows how genuine you are! As you said, we all make mistakes, that's how we learn. Most would have settled for a comment reply admitting that you have made mistakes, it says a lot for you to put this out there for everyone. I've said it before, keep up the great work mate!

@DinosTinkerShed Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the support. I'll be honest it was hard to post lol

@FullArmorE6 Жыл бұрын

We've all had that "Oh no" moment. Great video on the correction!

@srl9727 Жыл бұрын

I can't imagine anyone (but you) would have been critical of that video, well played.

@davejoe2592 Жыл бұрын

I am not at all mechanically inclined but I always spin my ratchet in my hand prior to tightening or loosening something just to make sure its set to go in the direction I want. Like you mentioned, it's easy to get confused when you are essentially working upside down. I certainly hope this never happens to me as I'd be hooped. I wouldn't trust myself to tap anything properly, especially in that uosode down position on an angle. Nice job on repairing what was seemingly a disaster! Also impressive that you did it all without even removing the skidplate.

@DinosTinkerShed Жыл бұрын

Lol thanks for the comment. I have had a bit of practice over the years with a tap and was fortunate enough to have a great brother in law who was a millwright who showed how. It's a good shill to learn, you can do it too. Dino

@matthewwise5317 Жыл бұрын

I have never made a mstake. Thanks for the videos.

@anthonya7066 Жыл бұрын

Champion Dino, I liked the process to repair the issue. It was good advice as to how to approach any problem.

@MalJ-eb7nv Жыл бұрын

Very good informative video Dino. I was told in my youth by a wise old gentleman " the person who makes no mistakes makes nothing" . He went on to say " with mistakes have a curse or a cup of tea, get calm and think how to retrieve the situation". You have demonstrated exactly what the old gentleman said. We all learn something new when we do the "fix". Thanks Dino for sharing.

@DinosTinkerShed Жыл бұрын

Wise words for sure Mal, thank you for sharing that knowledge. Dino

@OVB_NL 3 ай бұрын

Hi Dino - have been watching almost all your videos on the DR650. I'm really glad you're showing this and it's such good learning for your average or early-days DIY mechanic. We've all been there if you've tinkered long enough and that moment of when a simple job turns into a whole new project is very relatable. If this is the most upset you get whilst making mistakes, you're a better person than I am....i would have been swearing and kicking myself on camera 🤬😅 The way you responded when you found out really shows that the character we see on the carefully crafted videos really is the authentic you. Thanks again for showing this...great learning and education! Keep showing those mistakes ... they're gold! 🙂

@DinosTinkerShed 3 ай бұрын

Thank for the feedback, I try to stay calm lol, sometimes it doesn't work that way but as I get older I find the level head is more productive. Thanks again Dino

@JohnnyPowRides Жыл бұрын

I now refer to my shed out back as my "tinker shed" :)

@DinosTinkerShed Жыл бұрын

That is awesome 👍 Dino

@iananderson1422 Жыл бұрын

Dino. The person who has never made a mistake has never learned anything. Thanks for sharing BTW. I just found your channel tonight. I'm often in your area as my Dad who is 89 years young lives in Welland

@DinosTinkerShed Жыл бұрын

Well said, I get to Welland alot for Pizza, My buddy Karl's home town is Welland as well. Dino

@jonwoodworker Жыл бұрын

Another quality video Dino and you are a great mechanic because you take your time and do your research.

@DinosTinkerShed Жыл бұрын

Thank you, so glad you enjoyed it. Dino

@jeffreygorodokin4112 10 ай бұрын

I love your videos Dino, it's my relaxation time. So I particularly appreciated the stress relief moment after such high tension and drama.

@ericweber1969 Жыл бұрын

Excellent video, Dino! Thank you for sharing this, excellent work.

@J-Bibble Жыл бұрын

Great video Dino! We all make mistakes from time to time and I'm sure it's only a matter of time before I do something like this myself and now I have an idea how to fix it.

@eljefe2243 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for these videos. They have definitely helped me. I bought an 07 DR650 about 6 months ago. I watched a lot of these videos to work on and upgrade the bike. The carb cleanup was the first thing I did along with replacing its seals.

@DinosTinkerShed Жыл бұрын

I'm glad the content is helpful. And congratulations on the new to you DR, I hope it lives up to your expectations the way it did for me. Dino

@bradcrossman5068 Жыл бұрын

This reminds me of an old adage, " women learn by watching, men learn by breaking things". When i first heard that, i looked back at my own experiences and begrudgingly had to admit there is some truth to it.😁 Cheers Lad!

@billstadelman4420 Жыл бұрын

Your adage reminds me of a Will Rogers quote: “There are three kinds of men. The one that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves.”

@hectorberrospe2242 Жыл бұрын

I really enjoy your videos Dino. You are very thorough in explaining your thinking and how you handled your mishaps. I bought a 22 dr650 this year and will be a long time subscriber 👍🏽

@DinosTinkerShed Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the feedback and congratulations on the new DR, if you are like me you'll have a great time with it. Thank you so much for the subscription, it means alot to me. Dino

@ralphderkapitaen9875 Жыл бұрын

Wow, that would give people a heart attack when realizing the thread got stripped. Just by watching it, i felt the pain for you. At the same time your funny comments popping up within the video, made me laugh at the same time 😃 great job how you fixed it! Thankw for sharing, very usual information

@DinosTinkerShed Жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it Dino

@k9cj5 Ай бұрын

Even thoguh I've done this process many times I always over think it for reasons I dont fully understand when it comes to oil changes. I actually draw an arrow in the direction needed to losen the bolt and put the tq specs on the bottom with a oil pen on all the vehicles I change the oil on for this reason. I believe the tq spec for dr 650 is 17.5-18 ft lbs.

@mikeh.4087 Жыл бұрын

Great job on the repair!

@danielgelinas7141 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the excellent video! My buddy and i did the same thing on my 65 mercury pickup a long time ago. The cheap solution at the time was a rubber plug from canadian tire which worked great for the rest of the life of this fine pickup. Never changed the oil again, just toped it off once in a while! 😂

@robertk87527 Жыл бұрын

LMAO! The PO of my dr650 did the same thing to two of the banjo bolts that hold the oil lines in place. He covered it all with epoxy. The bike was running fine but I wanted to clean it up. So I removed the epoxy and what do ya know- the threads are completely stripped. I thought I was gonna have to buy new engine parts, then I learned about helicoils. Thank God there’s a simple fix. Thanks for the videos Dino! Also I can vouch that DRRiders is an awesome community.

@DinosTinkerShed Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment. It's easy to make mistakes, and I have myself made some sketchy repairs, but you eventually learn that the right fix is usually just as easy as the wrong one and lasts. The Drriders is a solid place to get info, I still lurk around a lot lol. Thanks for the great feedback. Dino

@comingtocharlotte Жыл бұрын

Good job staying calm Dino, I would probably have used some choice words 😂

@DinosTinkerShed Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment, the choice words were there trust me, but they did not make the final cut lol. Dino

@douglassrhine989 Жыл бұрын

Enjoyed this alot.

@iliketurtles4463 Жыл бұрын

Surely not brother! I've heard that after the apocalypse, that the mighty DR650 would be amongst twinkies and roaches as the only survivors!

@DinosTinkerShed Жыл бұрын

Lol believe it or not my sister has always said a dual sport is the ultimate post apocalyptic ride, I think she's right. Thanks for the comment Dino

@iliketurtles4463 Жыл бұрын

@@DinosTinkerShed Shes right for sure! For some reason I can't stop picturing a roach on a DR blasting through the desert chewing on a twinkie! Would be a great DR shirt perhaps...

@volvogt21 Жыл бұрын

Ouch. I'm paranoid about over tightening bolts and screws in aluminium. To the point of torquing everything and using anti seize. I actually prefer a little looser than tighter. I'm sure you wouldn't have made that mistake if you weren't attempting to help us all by making a video.

@DinosTinkerShed Жыл бұрын

Lol, I will neither confirm or deny that I would have made that mistake if I was not filming. Truth is, accidents like this can happen to the best person and it is something you either learn to accept and laugh at or you quickly find another hobby 🙂. Thanks for the comment Dino

@billstadelman4420 Жыл бұрын

@@DinosTinkerShed "it is something you either learn to accept and laugh at or you quickly find another hobby" That's gold right there!

@smashedgyro Жыл бұрын

That's a nice, wholesome video. 👍

@ontrider6421 Жыл бұрын

I have used the same kit ,the only difference I did was use loctite on the insert. Great video

@DinosTinkerShed Жыл бұрын

Lock tight may be an even better option than the rtv. Thanks for the tip. Dino

@wixee123 Жыл бұрын

Great content as usual..

@denny5564 2 ай бұрын

Good thing it was Carl's bike !

@evergeendata Жыл бұрын

When I installed my Acerbis 5gal tank on my DR I managed to cross thread one of the two 10mm bolts. I'm either going to have to drill and tap for a larger bolt, or try a helicoil. Thanks for the explanation how they work.

@DinosTinkerShed Жыл бұрын

Glad it's helpful Dino

@billstadelman4420 Жыл бұрын

Thank you very much for this video. I've always had a phobia about stripping the drain bolt, because I've always heard about how incredibly easy it is to do. Well, it is, but it isn't, as your video quite clearly illustrates. If you're bound and determined, yes, it will happen, but my goodness, that took some serious grunt to make happen. I won't be so fearful in the future. About drain bolts, anyway. . I do have one request - please don't call those Nutserts. Nutsert is a trademark for a type of rivet nut, which helicoils and Timeserts are definitely not. I know I'm being picky, but I feel it's important to call things by their proper name, to keep confusion to a minimum.

@DinosTinkerShed Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for the comment. Yes it took a bit to pull out the threads and you definitely feel sick when it happens. I did not even realise I called them a nutsert, it might be because I actually have a sert of nutserts and just slipped up. I agree we should call things correctly, I always feel the same way when people call Arborvitae, Cedar so I know the feeling. Thanks again Dino

@TLOverlander Жыл бұрын

On the plus side, the helicoil is stronger than the aluminum case threads 👍🏻

@WildBORProductions Жыл бұрын

Great vid and great fix! My heart sank for you watching this!

@DinosTinkerShed Жыл бұрын

It is a bit hard to watch but things do happen, glad you like the video and thanks for the comment Dino

@alainmaurice5383 3 ай бұрын

Thank you. This really helpful

@DinosTinkerShed 3 ай бұрын

Your welcome, glad it's helpful. Dino

@kensterzaneify Жыл бұрын

I've been seeing that a few people use rotella diesel oil for their DR650s. Is that a regular thing? It seems to be more affordable than designated motorcycle fuel at the bike shops but my bike is sentimental so I want to take any unnecessary risks. What are your thoughts on that oil. Or have you covered this already?

@swissteam777 Жыл бұрын

Let's not talk about the microscopic bolts that hold the engine cover to access the oil filter... 😞 Btw, I learn to discipline myself to always set my wrench facing it so I know I'm going counter clock to unfasten the bolt before going under my bike or car... And yes, I did the same as you on a 1250 Suzuki bandit costing me 2 miles push of the bike to the dealership to avoid paying for towing and a $150 helicoil...

@DinosTinkerShed Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment. It's funny I normally do the same thing, when I watched the raw video I actually switch the ratchet just before I start to destroy the bolt. Uggg. I know for a fact that the only people who don't make mistakes are those who do nothing. Thanks for making me feel better. Dino

@skygroover6692 11 ай бұрын

Looks like a blessing, steal treads will last longer

@DinosTinkerShed 11 ай бұрын

Good point Dino

@williamsleechelsey Жыл бұрын

I was wondering what windshield you use , I was watching your Bruce peninsula video and really like the dash set up

@DinosTinkerShed Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment, I use a BMW 650 Dakar windscreen mounted to a custom dash, here is a link about the wind screen if you wanted more information. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iqqDfKSdytHVgKc.html I also have a three-part series on building the custom dash in my DR650 play list. DIno

@williamsleechelsey Жыл бұрын

@@DinosTinkerShed thanks for the reply I may be bothering you all winter , we have two new ones and need to finish setting them up

@DinosTinkerShed Жыл бұрын

No problem. I'll do what I can to help you out. Don't forget to check out drriders.com it's a great place for new owners.

@dillondurham8692 11 ай бұрын

I just watched my buddy do this to his sportster! It happens to the best of em

@DinosTinkerShed 11 ай бұрын

"The only people who do not make mistakes are those who do nothing" my father taught me that and I try to remember it when I mess up. Thank you for the comment. Dino

@adventureguy4119 Жыл бұрын

Thank fully, I have learned my wrist strength is7 ft-lb my arm strength is about 60 ft-lb im im broke sockets as well no drain plug Glory to God because if anyone was to do what you did it would be me

@kensterzaneify Жыл бұрын

We've all been there at some point

@Rachaellittlephotography Жыл бұрын

Sporadic squirrel 😂

@DinosTinkerShed Жыл бұрын

We love our squirrel friends lol. Just keep out of the house squirrel 🐿️!

@johnmclaughlin4802 6 ай бұрын

Your a very clever man 🧠

@DinosTinkerShed 6 ай бұрын

Thank you, but the camera hides alot lol. Dino

@scottmacleod6301 Жыл бұрын

You did the same thing I did on a Kawasaki KLT 200 when I was a kid only I managed to break the case and by the way my dad and I repaired a 1958 case terraloader we reformed the final drive shafts by filling the sprocket hubs with JB weld actually we reformed the hubs I guess.

@DinosTinkerShed Жыл бұрын

JB weld is amazing stuff for sure, I use it myself quite often. Thank you for the comment and sharing your experiences. Dino

@scottmacleod6301 Жыл бұрын

Excuse me I meant to say I did the same thing.

@DinosTinkerShed Жыл бұрын

NP I understood the post, in fact I did not even notice the error until you pointed it out, all good. Dino

@scottmacleod6301 Жыл бұрын

@@DinosTinkerShed having a major clutch issue with my 21'dr650 any way you can help me resolve it?

@scottmacleod6301 Жыл бұрын

@@DinosTinkerShed I seem to have fried my clutch practicing slow turns.

@Joe04100 Жыл бұрын

Why did you not remove the skidplate?

@DinosTinkerShed Жыл бұрын

I did not need to in order to make the repair. I filmed this very early in the channel and honestly did not think to for better viewing. Just wanted to get it repaired lol. Thank you for the question Dino

@terentesangre Жыл бұрын

Hey! flower boy! so you're a horticulturalist by trade... cool man! (I'm still hoping for a mini bio)

@DinosTinkerShed Жыл бұрын

LOL, Ill work on the Bio. Thanks for the comment Dino

@ibicycle8974 9 ай бұрын

A whole lots of bleeps on that video had I made it.

@DinosTinkerShed 9 ай бұрын

Oh there were plenty of bleeps that I edited out lol. Dino

@bluesteel8586 2 ай бұрын

Lol

@rommelbicidoctor3632 Жыл бұрын

For that repair i consider that you should first take off the skid plate!!!!!

@DinosTinkerShed Жыл бұрын

Interesting, you are the second person to suggest this, I do agree from a visual perspective that would have been better however there was no reason to do so for the repair itself. There was more than enough access to perform the work with absolutely no restriction for tools or my hands. What would be your rational other than for video quality? Just wondering? Thank you for the comment and insight. Dino

@billstadelman4420 Жыл бұрын

@@DinosTinkerShed "no reason to do so for the repair itself" - well, it would be easier to see exactly what is going on, and also easier to clean up after you're done, but you are correct that it is not necessary.

@smashedgyro Жыл бұрын

I over torqued and snapped a valve cover bolt on my DR'S initial break-in period. 🫤 It wasn't easy (or clean) to get that MFer out... lesson learned: always use torque specs!

@DinosTinkerShed Жыл бұрын

Uggg, that sucks. As pointed out in the video I learned turning the bolt the right way also helps lol. Thanks for the comment, you are very correct in your statement. Dino