Did I see the OLDEST WAGONS at Carlisle? Old and unexpected wagons & New Measurement Train 13 02 23

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Leslie Gilpin Railways

Leslie Gilpin Railways

Жыл бұрын

Did I see the OLDEST WAGONS at Carlisle?
Old and unexpected wagons &
New Measurement Train
13 February 2023
I expected this to be a fairly uneventful afternoon at Citadel station with only the New Measurement Train making its monthly visit as anything special.
It was nice to see the Pride pendolino heading to and from Edinburgh, that brought some colour.
Then two freights caught my attention.
The engineers train from Tyne Yard brought four 50T capacity bogie bolster wagons and stopped in the centre roads awaiting a path to Carlisle Yard. I had a look at the builders plates - on at least one, the cast details had literally dropped off over many years, given the colour of the rust. I was able to read one - built in 1955! Can there be many older wagons still running along main lines?
Then the working from Carlisle Yard to Hardendale Quarry passed by. This is usually a light engine working, to take containers of Burnt Lime from the lime kilns at Hardendale down to Margam Yard for Port Talbot steelworks. Today it was showing as a class 6 freight - the 66 had a pair of steel coil wagons in tow. Whilst frequently seen along the South Wales main line between Margam and Llanwern, I think this is the first time I've seen them in Carlisle!
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@stevehull787
@stevehull787 Жыл бұрын
Once again Les great footage 👍 well done 👍
@LeslieGilpinRailways
@LeslieGilpinRailways Жыл бұрын
Thanks Steve
@TrainLoverHimu
@TrainLoverHimu Жыл бұрын
Great video, well filmed.👍🎥👍👍👍😊
@LeslieGilpinRailways
@LeslieGilpinRailways Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@UKTransportVideos82
@UKTransportVideos82 Жыл бұрын
Nice video from Carlisle les
@LeslieGilpinRailways
@LeslieGilpinRailways Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@FeckHallBahn
@FeckHallBahn Жыл бұрын
Excellent catches. Really enjoyed your videos and your skilful editing.
@LeslieGilpinRailways
@LeslieGilpinRailways Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@mikem6xmn838
@mikem6xmn838 Жыл бұрын
Great Video Les them wagon's are the same age as me. so now i know that things of that age are still of some use Lol. thank's for the upload.
@LeslieGilpinRailways
@LeslieGilpinRailways Жыл бұрын
Thanks! I was having similar thoughts
@lesdonaldson520
@lesdonaldson520 Жыл бұрын
Great freight catches Les these wagons should be in a museum 😊I wish Colas would give that 43 a lick of paint . Thanks for another great video
@LeslieGilpinRailways
@LeslieGilpinRailways Жыл бұрын
Thanks Les. Colas living up to their reputation of having the scruffiest locos!
@ianeccles111
@ianeccles111 Жыл бұрын
How can they paint the class 43? It claims on the side of the stock, it works 24/7. LOL.
@UKTransportVideos82
@UKTransportVideos82 Жыл бұрын
They have painted one its just not out yet
@iancowieson7048
@iancowieson7048 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video Les 👍really enjoyed watching that... you just can't beat the sound of those engineer's trains clattering their way through the station... love to see and hear that !
@LeslieGilpinRailways
@LeslieGilpinRailways Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks!
@mikeatpudhamjunction2323
@mikeatpudhamjunction2323 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing. Stay safe.
@LeslieGilpinRailways
@LeslieGilpinRailways Жыл бұрын
Thanks, you too!
@johntomkinson9781
@johntomkinson9781 Жыл бұрын
Excellent again. Nice to see some different rolling stock even though it should be in a museum
@LeslieGilpinRailways
@LeslieGilpinRailways Жыл бұрын
Thanks John. I know what you mean!
@Abnerbandanovotempoinscrito1mi
@Abnerbandanovotempoinscrito1mi Жыл бұрын
Boa tarde leslier lindo afoto vario tren lindo gostei
@LeslieGilpinRailways
@LeslieGilpinRailways Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@sydwoods.woodsendjunction9492
@sydwoods.woodsendjunction9492 Жыл бұрын
Super video Les some good captures there, and those old wagons blimey 68 yrs old don't know of any older than that thanks for sharing another great video many thanks Les take care a t b syd 👍
@LeslieGilpinRailways
@LeslieGilpinRailways Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it Syd
@pauljohnson4525
@pauljohnson4525 Жыл бұрын
Love the two camera angles
@LeslieGilpinRailways
@LeslieGilpinRailways Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@mels1811
@mels1811 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant video
@LeslieGilpinRailways
@LeslieGilpinRailways Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@trainwild
@trainwild Жыл бұрын
Very nice video Les! 😀
@LeslieGilpinRailways
@LeslieGilpinRailways Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@jamiemurray7945
@jamiemurray7945 Жыл бұрын
The BDAs had been tripped to Kingmoor a few weeks back, heading back to Margam via 6V71. They were in for maintenance that was specific to kingmoor, great video.
@LeslieGilpinRailways
@LeslieGilpinRailways Жыл бұрын
Thanks Jamie. Maintenance never crossed my mind
@barcooter8248
@barcooter8248 Жыл бұрын
my brother is working on the tender for the replacements for the DBC wagons and saw one being loaded at Doncaster yesterday with a 1954 plate on it
@LeslieGilpinRailways
@LeslieGilpinRailways Жыл бұрын
Wow, that is interesting. It just shows how old stock is hidden away around the system, often in plain sight
@johnsmith-ie6in
@johnsmith-ie6in Жыл бұрын
hi Les another great video and in good weather as well lol i didnt think they would allow a wagon that age to still run on the rails in case they broke something anyways a good lot of freight through today anyway look forward to ur next video stay safe my friend
@LeslieGilpinRailways
@LeslieGilpinRailways Жыл бұрын
Me neither! in a yard maybe but not long distances. Thanks for watching!
@Nate0493
@Nate0493 Жыл бұрын
Very nice shots, strange to see such old stock being used, have you thought about spending a day at Crewe? I got some great stuff there yesterday
@LeslieGilpinRailways
@LeslieGilpinRailways Жыл бұрын
I went to Crewe a couple of times in 2021 but currently have no plans to go back. To be honest I found it a little constraining. My favourite spots down there are Lichfield and Leamington Spa
@Nate0493
@Nate0493 Жыл бұрын
@@LeslieGilpinRailways fair enough it’s a bit of work constantly moving platforms haha! I got a few nice things like a 69 convoy plus 92015 mainline testing after its conversion tho
@alanshelly7068
@alanshelly7068 Жыл бұрын
Awesome video buddy from Alan in Lowestoft buddy
@LeslieGilpinRailways
@LeslieGilpinRailways Жыл бұрын
Thanks Alan
@alanshelly7068
@alanshelly7068 Жыл бұрын
@@LeslieGilpinRailways your welcome buddy
@johnross9074
@johnross9074 Жыл бұрын
Very enjoyable presentation, thanks for sharing. The elderly wagons could be for moving military vehicles, so something may well be being dusted off before going to Ukraine.
@LeslieGilpinRailways
@LeslieGilpinRailways Жыл бұрын
Thanks! I'd assumed that they were P-Way vehicles given they are on an Engineer's train, but who knows?
@mrbluesky2050
@mrbluesky2050 Жыл бұрын
@@LeslieGilpinRailways aren't they just 'common-o-garden salmon wagons, for track panels...just elderly, the P.W. keeps all sorts running, if you look, the bogies underneath them are much more modern.
@peterjackson-cheadleheath1182
@peterjackson-cheadleheath1182 Жыл бұрын
Hi Les More good stuff here, those steel coil wagons (BDA's ??) do look quite old but I've seen on some of your videos, some really old OBA's and OCA's looking really battered. which must date from the early 1970's I would guess. Great stuff as usual Les. Thanks
@LeslieGilpinRailways
@LeslieGilpinRailways Жыл бұрын
Thanks Peter. The coil wagons look old but the wagons behind the Freightliner 66 were definitely ancient.
@callanstrainsandplanes4945
@callanstrainsandplanes4945 Жыл бұрын
Hi les when the test train went out you could see me with my black phone in my black tripod I really enjoyed that day I seen you but I didn’t know if it was you
@LeslieGilpinRailways
@LeslieGilpinRailways Жыл бұрын
Thanks! You seemed to be enjoying yourself
@callanstrainsandplanes4945
@callanstrainsandplanes4945 Жыл бұрын
@Leslie Gilpin Railways i was
@warrenhardcastle8858
@warrenhardcastle8858 Жыл бұрын
Another great watch Les , have an event to attend on the 18th March so was thinking of trying Carlisle for myself on the 17th any tips ?
@LeslieGilpinRailways
@LeslieGilpinRailways Жыл бұрын
Thanks! First thing is to check RealTime Trains the night before. Also (and don't ask why) be on the station in the morning before 11.
@hotdogpilot6319
@hotdogpilot6319 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like the gulls have spotted your mackerel sandwich Leslie!
@LeslieGilpinRailways
@LeslieGilpinRailways Жыл бұрын
I think someone dropped their chips. Thanks for watching
@stevehull787
@stevehull787 Жыл бұрын
No bother Les take care 👍
@LeslieGilpinRailways
@LeslieGilpinRailways Жыл бұрын
ok!
@MKT_19
@MKT_19 11 ай бұрын
Am I right in saying them old wagons were originally BR 'Salmon' YMOs?
@LeslieGilpinRailways
@LeslieGilpinRailways 11 ай бұрын
I think you may be correct.
@foxstrangler
@foxstrangler Жыл бұрын
Hi Les, great content as usual. Can you answer me a question please? At the southern end of the all-over roof above P3, there are rivetted repairs to the steelwork. The station staff did not know why. I wonder if you, or your fellow enthusiasts know the answer. My family come from the area, but I've not been up since 2018. Thank you.
@LeslieGilpinRailways
@LeslieGilpinRailways Жыл бұрын
Thanks! I'm afraid I'll have to defer to others regarding the roof. I'll have to give it a look.
@foxstrangler
@foxstrangler Жыл бұрын
@@LeslieGilpinRailways 👍
@trainsontuesday
@trainsontuesday Жыл бұрын
Those wagons were youngsters compared with me Les. lol.
@LeslieGilpinRailways
@LeslieGilpinRailways Жыл бұрын
I'd be too polite to comment David. lol.
@roslynlock9205
@roslynlock9205 Жыл бұрын
I do believe that they are the oldest of the engineers fleet a posable answer to The wagons on the hardendale is there a working to Margam steel sidings where that type of wagon works from
@LeslieGilpinRailways
@LeslieGilpinRailways Жыл бұрын
I agree with you. Just cant work out why coil carriers were up here - unless DB Cargo found them in a yard they are clearing
@melissasmith5109
@melissasmith5109 Жыл бұрын
Hi les good video as usual. Thoughts on replacing the class 185 sprinter for the leeds carlisle route?
@LeslieGilpinRailways
@LeslieGilpinRailways Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Well if Great Western can put 80x on Cardiff to Penzance stoppers, why couldn't northern put some on the Leeds Carlisle's and extend them into Scotland. Except it seems ScotRail would not like that - as with truncating the Dumfries to Newcastle trains at Carlisle - a through service now means change of train. Oh and Northern don't have 800s! If they did they would soon be diverted onto other services. The Lancashire and Yorkshire cities don't want 158s so they persist to carlisle
@melissasmith5109
@melissasmith5109 Жыл бұрын
@@LeslieGilpinRailways I have been told that Northern was looking at a hydrogen 195
@beeble2003
@beeble2003 Жыл бұрын
@@melissasmith5109 Ugh. Hydrogen is the stupidest fuel imaginable. It's hard to store, and it's made with electricity. It takes six units of electricity to make one unit of hydrogen. The hydrogen is then burned at about 50% efficiency, so it takes 12 units of electrical power to get one unit of power out of the train. Just use an electric train! Hydrogen as a fuel is the worst kind of fake green.
@melissasmith5109
@melissasmith5109 Жыл бұрын
@@beeble2003 hybrid I believe
@stephenfrankish62
@stephenfrankish62 Жыл бұрын
The class 70 has to be one of the ugliest locomotives ever to run in this country
@LeslieGilpinRailways
@LeslieGilpinRailways Жыл бұрын
I think they are like Marmite - you love em or you hate em.
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