I think it’s more about your relationship with Christ over anything else.

1830 was a lot different than 2023. The church was true then, the church is true now. God uses imperfect men to accomplish his work on earth. Good luck.

Yeah I have a personal witness that the first vision is true but all the inaccuracies of the book of Mormon historical account and the polygamy stuff confuses me. Don's research has settled me on most of the polygamy topic, thank goodness.

@@mikedavis8880 there are no historical accounts that are not accurate . All accurate .

Wake up. Its a provable lie. Joseph Smith was a 19th century con man who became a cult leader. He got very rich and banged many women. From young teenagers up. Other mens wives, sister pairs, mother daughter pairs, etc. LDS Corp would be a top 100 business. Worth a few hundred billion Easily. Not even sure if that includes the land and temples. Only a couple to a few million active members worldwide.

He sure didn't show it in this very unprepared talk.

This dude wouldn’t know the truth if it slapped him in the face

@@sadiegirl1243 Don talks about how he (himself) had left the Church then returned. I think it's briefly alluded to here but he goes into more detail about it elsewhere.

@@CMZIEBARTH thank you

​@@sadiegirl1243 He tells the whole story on the ward radio KZfaq channel

Thanks for that information . This guy left the church . Left the church hmmm like anything he is says is truth .

How about you realize Joseph Smith was the closet to perfect and the smartest man then anyone there was on the earth at that time . He has been accused of anything and everything . Arrest 34 times and each time found not guilty of anything he was accused of . Guess what Joseph Smith had one wife . Her name was Emma .

Amen to that!!!

@@leeroy3557 Which is Christs Church?

Would that mean the Catholic Church is the one true church? (Or the many that came after it)

@@robertstanley3832 no….. lol

People need to research this out for themselves, How do you know he isn't lying? How to you know the church is teaching you correct doctrine if you don't test and verify.

@@MegaJohn144 please do this with every single thing you rely upon. Oh wait, that’s impossible. You have to rely on faith and trust in order to act in the world because you simply cannot know every thing a scrutinize everything. This is like saying you can’t listen to your doctors prescription/orders without doing all the studies yourself and reading all of the academic work that backs up those studies. Or that you cannot use medicine until you go to the plant and see how it’s made. Or that you can’t trust google maps because you haven’t seen the technology behind it and talked to the people creating it. And yes, there are good reasons for him not to be lying: 1 - his livelihood depends on being accurate and non-deceptive. If another researcher found out he was lying, he would no longer be credible and lose his job and/or degree. 2 - He has been consistent in previous work. Past behavior is the strongest predictor of future behavior 3 - He cites his sources. You can go look at it for yourself. If you’re lying but you give sources that don’t back up your claim, you’re stupid. 4 - he left the Church before. Why would he come back just to make up false stories?

I come to that same conclusion. Under levitical law if a wife’s husband passed away without bearing children then one of the brothers would have to raise up seed on his behalf. In this case Joseph got sealed to married women so that he could have their husbands raise up seed unto the lord. Joseph could be sealed to them, but not have to have any sexual intercorse with them. This would be the conclusion that we get from the data. He was later commanded to fully implement polygamy and not half heartedly. The early sealings we’re eternity only sealings. Later he would have sealings for time and eternity. In the temple lot case it is these women under this latter category that would testify of having sexual relations with Joseph Smith. From this we gather that Joseph was reluctant to fully implement plural marriage as taught in doctrine and covenants 132.

Hi Don, I didnt remove anything. I dont see myself or comments ive made as criticizing or insulting people I see myself speaking directly to the ideas and facts and I am of the mindset that all ideas can and should be pushed against including my own. But maybe as you pointed out, Im lacking awareness in that area? To my knowledge ive never made any personal statement against anyone including you. So i apologize if those were taken that way. I just honestly believe the data supports Joseph Smith was trying to be like the ancient patriarchs, Abraham, Solomon etc and that he wanted to have as many women as he could. It was like property. And in his implementation he used the same tactics that abusers used. I think the truth matters. Should I spend my time in more productive ways? Yes absolutely.

@@kuriju88 I appreciate you taking the time to explain that. And I apologize if I misunderstood your intent. Given the language of giving and taking in D&C 132, and other text, I can see sources of concern for people being perceived as property. And I certainly don't think that early polygamy was above ethical critique. From my vantage point as a historian, the best basis for us to make an ethical assessment of early Latter-day Saint polygamy is, first, to ensure that we have the most accurate picture of what actually happened. That is my primary goal in my research. So, even though I have been featured in a number of videos- which are obviously totally fair game for anyone's critique - I would rather be doing research and writing on these topics offline with the aim of getting them published and therefore made part of a larger scholarly conversation , rather than imagining that they can be settled here. I initially started looking at the comments on my recent videos first out of curiosity what people made of them, and also figuring I could give the algorithm of boost, and hopefully help out when people had faith questions they were wrestling with. But my tendency is to let myself get sucked into unproductive discussion more than I think I should. So I'm trying to pull back from doing that. In any case, I have no hard feelings toward you, and hope the same is true on your end, as it sounds like it is. I will be doing quite a bit of publishing on Joseph Smith and polygamy in the next couple years. I already have two papers on Joseph Smith and Fanny Alger submitted for publication and have two more papers on Joseph Smith's polygamy in the works. So, I'll provide quite a bit of fodder for critique or engagement in whatever way you choose. Regards

Why Do LDS Reject GOD of BIBLE & believe in FALSE GOD of Joseph Smith? Isn't your eternity worth examining the truth? NO truth: Book of Abraham published with 3 facsimiles taken from an ancient papyrus, shown to be a fraud years later. The book is a funerary papyrus showing scenes from the Egyptian Book of the Dead. In Facsimiles Nos. 1 & 3, Smith misidentifies everything depicted. "LDS and non-LDS Egyptologists agree that the characters on the fragments do not match the translation given in the book of Abraham" Quote from LDS OFFICIAL WEB PAGE NO trace of the “Two million Jaredites slain” (Ether 15:2), with iron, brass, breast-plates, shields, and armor. This is 3 times the # of Americans killed in the entire Civil War & Revolutionary War combined. NO trace of the great city Zarahemla- it would be impossible for a city the size of Zarahemla (Alma 5:2; D&C 125:3) to leave no trace NO trace of Jewish dna found in any Indian burial ground anywhere in the Americas from time period of BOM. Thomas W. Murphy, (Mormon scholar, DNA researcher):“We are in a dilemma, the genetic evidence shows that American Indians are not Hebrews, they are not Israelites. The Book of Mormon is not true.” John Whitmer Historical Association Journal 2005 NO temple like Solomon's described in 2 Nephi 5:16 has ever been found yet biblical temple remains in Jerusalem NO Nephite "reformed Egyptian" writings ever found anywhere as it is not a language found in the world NO cities mentioned in the BOM have ever been located (none of 38) anywhere NO evidence: "The whole land was covered with buildings, and the people were as numerous, as it were the sand of the sea." Yet not one ever located. (Mormon 1:7) IMPOSSIBLE for highly advanced civilizations (Jaredites, Nephites) & MILLIONS of people to have vanished The BOM speaks of sheep, swine, silk, wool clothing & elephants existing in the Americas when they did not. 1 Ne.13:7; Alma 4:6; Ether 9:17 and 10:24 These were brought to America centuries later by Europeans. NO wheat, no goats, no steel found in the Americas, no metal smelting furnaces, no metal armor, no steel swords, no cattle, no chariot parts, no brass (Mosiah 8:10) no evidence of the listed Kings in BOM, no Jewish relics or Jewish Temples from supposed Jews, no metal plates like Nephites supposedly used, no middle eastern seeds growing, "which were brought from the land of Jerusalem ... and grew exceedingly" 1 Nephi 18:24 There is NO archaeological, anthropological, topological, linguistic, botanical or dna evidence to support the Book of Mormon. LDS anthropologist Dee Green: “The first myth we need to eliminate is that BOM archaeology exists” conceding 20 years of research “left us empty-handed” (Green 1969 p. 77) CAN WE TRUST OUR HEARTS AS TO THE TRUTH OF THE BOOK OF MORMON since there is no evidence? D&C Section 9:8-9 - tell us that if something is true it will make our "bosom burn" and we will FEEL that it is right. This is NOT how the bible tells us to determine truth. Acts 17:11 "they... EXAMINED THE SCRIPTURES EVERY DAY to see if what Paul said was TRUE"; "TEST THEM ALL" 1 Thes 5:21 The best way to spot false teachers is to examine the TRUTH of the bible. 2 Timothy 2:15 KJV "STUDY to show thyself approved unto God, ... rightly dividing the word of TRUTH." 1 John 4:1 says: "BELIEVE NOT EVERY SPIRIT, but try the spirits whether they are of God; because MANY FALSE PROPHETS are gone out into the world." Maroni 10:4 says: "he will manifest the truth of it unto you" But: THE BIBLE WARNS YOU about trusting your own heart. Jeremiah 17:9 "the heart is DECEITFUL above all things". Proverbs 28:26 "He that trusts in his own heart is a FOOL." "The sum of your word is TRUTH" Psalm 119:160 Faith in a false God is of what value? Faith in the true God is invaluable. Mormonism is based on a PROVABLY FALSE claim the Bible was corrupted and "plain and precious parts" were removed by Christian translators after the apostles died. Yet, there isn’t ANY specific biblical scripture found ANYWHERE, EVER, that directly supports Joseph Smith’s translation of the Bible. AN OBJECTIVE TEST OF THE BIBLE AND THE BOOK OF MORMON: The Claim: In the BOM, the prophet Nephi has a vision the Bible was corrupted after the 12 apostles and after the formation of the “great and abominable church” (1 Nephi 13:26-29). Most Mormons believe this is the Catholic Church formed in the 4th century. Nephi claims this church was founded by the Devil (1 Nephi 14:3). So let’s objectively examine both the Bible & BOM to be fair and test for errors. BIBLE: The Dead Sea Scrolls have been dated to as early as 350 BC. One is the Great Isaiah Scroll, which is the oldest known copy of the Book of Isaiah dated to 180 BC. Do ANY ancient scrolls show Smith's "uncorrupted" version of scripture? NO! Yet they would if the scripture was later corrupted after the 12 apostles died as Smith said. Also, if they had been corrupted, Jesus would have corrected scripture instead of affirming it! Jesus sd:“ I told you EVERYTHING written about me in the Law of Moses, the Books of the Prophets, and in the Psalms had to happen.” (Luke 24:44-46) Scripture is the same today as it was 2,100+ years ago with only minor spelling or punctuation differences. Joseph Smith was wrong. These scrolls pre-dated Catholics, and are Jewish scrolls and the BOM says the Jews had the Scriptures in their "purity". 1Nephi 13:25 LDS Apologist Wayne Ham admitted the Isaiah scroll does not support the the BOM. Apologist Dr. Sidney B. Sperry, of BYU, said the Dead Sea Scrolls do not help the case for the BOM. BYU Professor Joseph F. McConkie: "Rather than Joseph Smith as Found in Ancient Manuscripts, it ought be Joseph Smith as Lost in Ancient Manuscripts.” (Religious Studies Center, 1984) IS THE GOD OF THE BOOK OF MORMON THE SAME ONE AS IN THE BIBLE? NO! "Before me NO god was formed, nor shall there be ANY after me.” (Isaiah 43:10) If Mormonism is true, then God could not make this claim, for he was just a man at one point; nor could he claim that no gods would come after him, for that is the goal of LDS members. Like Joseph Smith this was the goal of Satan, to be like God and have worshippers. "I will exalt my throne above the stars of God ... I will be like the Most High”’ (Isaiah 14:12-14) The new testament has not been corrupted either. See John 1:1 Smith changed it to make Jesus a created being. Research a 1900 year old papyri known as the Bodmer Papyri of the book of John. (written 150 AD, not long after the apostle John died) John 1:1 "In the BEGINNING was the WORD and the WORD was WITH God and the WORD WAS God." ΕΝ ΑΡΧΗ ΗΝ Ο ΛΟΓΟΣ ΚΑΙ Ο ΛΟΓΟΣ ΗΝ ΠΡΟΣ ΤΟΝ ΘΕΟΝ ΚΑΙ ΘΕΟΣ ΗΝ Ο ΛΟΓΟΣ (look up this ancient Greek yourself on google) John 1:1 Joseph Smith translation: "In the beginning was the gospel preached through the Son. And the gospel was the word, and the word was with the Son, and the Son was with God, and the Son was of God." Smith's Jesus is no longer God in the flesh but the biblical Jesus is: "God was manifest in the flesh" 1Tim. 3:16 KJV There are 4,000 Greek manuscripts of the New Testament. Some go back to 350 AD and NONE support Joseph Smith's claims that the bible of today has been corrupted. Papyrus fragments exist of the New Testament dated to 175 AD and show that the new testament has NOT been "corrupted". (New Testament Docs: Are They Reliable? Grand Rapids: Eerdmans, 1967 pp. 15-17) In the LDS Church’s 147th Conf., Gen Authority Bernard P. Brockbank said: the Christ followed by Mormons is NOT THE CHRIST followed by traditional Christianity. (Ensign, May 1977 p. 26) The manuscript and archeological evidence for the BIBLE is the GREATEST in antiquity. I pray you know the true Jesus and not Joseph Smith's version. Galatians 1:8 "Though we, or an angel from heaven, preach ANY OTHER GOSPEL to you than that which we have preached to you, let him be ACCURSED." Matthew 24:24 warns Satan WILL send FALSE prophets and pose as an ANGEL of light! 2 Corinthians 11:14 God is much greater than the humanoid of Mormonism and NOT just ONE OF AN ENDLESS NUMBER OF GODS. Jesus said ALL scripture will NOT fade away but "many wolves in sheep's clothing" will come trying to ADD to the word. Mathew 7:15 Joseph Smith changed Jesus, the Father and ADDED you can become a GOD. It hurts my heart to see Mormons fall for the lie that we can become God when there is only one eternal God found in the bible. "The only men who become Gods, even the sons of Gods are those that enter into polygamy." (Brigham Young) Journal of Discourses 11 p.269 Apostle Orson Pratt, in The Seer, page 172, “the great Messiah who was the founder of the Christian religion was a Polygamist…the Messiah chose to take upon himself his seed; and by marrying many wives, … The son followed the example of his Father" God gave us critical thinking & logical reasoning for a reason, which is why he tells us to EXAMINE and TEST what we are being taught for TRUTH. The bible withstands the truth test. Joseph Smith's version fails the truth test. It's your eternity, study it for yourself. God bless.

He spoke about this briefly on the Ward Radio podcast but I can’t remember what episode😐 I’ll try to find it

It sounds like a few other authorship claims, If there were any truth to it, I'm sure it'd have been put forth much earlier. Smith is a very common name. . .

It reminds me of President Nelson telling the story of wanting his parents to live the world of wisdom so he went and smashed all the liquor bottles in the house. Prophets follow certain patterns :)

Also, I was thinking that some of those plural uniones were under the “Law of Adoption” instead of “polygamy”. What do you think ? Because I’m finding out that it was so common in the early years of the church that members wanted to get sealed to one of the presidents of the church so they could have a link between the two families for the after life….

How about spiritual wifery, or I don't know, adultery?

@@dr33776lol, you’re so funny

I think that’s a good point. I always say “sealed” instead of married because of the distinct meanings between the terms.

He still had sex with many of his wives. Don's presentation, while informative on the dates, doesn't do anything to show that Joseph Smith was not a predator. In fact, he told William Clayton that he had the right to get as many as he could. Its about power, not just sex. Read D & C 132. Women are property to be given and inherited. If you are faithful over a few, you will receive more.

Why is that a scandalous statement?

@kuriju88 you tell me. Do you think Joseph wasn’t trying to get as many women as he wanted?

@@kuriju88Is it your view that plural marriage was instituted for the sole purpose of sex?

@@michaelhutchings6602 no it’s about power. He was trying to set himself up like an ancient patriarch like Abraham, Solomon etc. with hundreds of woman and wealth and kingdoms. The text makes it clear. Sex was part of it but he viewed woman as property to be obtained. His tactics are the same as abusers

@@kuriju88 > Sex was part of it but he viewed woman as property to be obtained. Is that why they were given a choice to be part of it? You know, just like you ask your car for permission to buy it or sell it. >His tactics are the same as abusers What kind of abuser seeks consent of the party, often is sealed to women only to never have any interaction with them again, and is establishing eternal family bonds with all the responsibility that entails? > with hundreds of woman I'm sure there are lots of kids that have been proven via DNA to be his. Right?

It's not worthless to everyone

I absolutely believe in the book of Mormon. I'm finding out now how Joseph was not at all a polygamist. But Brigham and most of the 12 were and were horrible adulterous. I'm starting to wonder which other restoration church is right, although President Nelson is a good man, none of the prophets since Joseph are prophetic like he was. Have you listened to Jeremy Hoops?

Post the five verses before it and the five after.

@michaelhutchings6602 There aren’t five after but either way. There is no consistency in the revelation and implementation of polygamy but a lot of threat and manipulation.

@@kuriju88Not at all. Plural marriage did not have much guidance and the evidence is overwhelming Smith was very hesitant in its implementation. Understandably so.

@@kuriju88 Do you disagree with the notion that adultery is spiritually destructive?

@@michaelhutchings6602 the verse above gives guidance, Joseph didn’t follow it. Why would he need to create fake marriages between people to hide his marriage? What Joseph did is the same thing as adultery. He lied to his wife and engage in sexual and emotional relations with others. That would be destructive

I think his point was how polygamy began for Joseph and how its origins were not about sex. I do not think he is claiming that Joseph did not later have sexual relations with his later polygamous wives.

@jahadden1 Jim's explanation below is correct. If you watch that part again, you'll find that I'm addressing the question of what Joseph Smith's motive was in *initiating* Nauvoo polygamy. He begins polygamy with pretty clearly non-sexual motives. He later has sexual relationships with some women he married.

@@onandagus1He also very conveniently starts with Nauvoo polygamy ignoring Kirkland…

@@jahadden1 I explained that Mormon polygamy as a social system begins in Nauvoo, and it is the beginning of this system that I'm exploring. Can you find any historians who disagree?

Do people dispute that Emma catching Joseph with Fannie Alger in the barn didn’t happen? Because that seems like it was a sexual encounter and it was early on.

He did only have one wife. The rest weren't legally married to him.

@kuriju88 Joseph and Hyrum called polygamy a corrupt and false doctrine. What say ye to that? Hyrum said "God has not command anyone to have more wives" The Lord said through Joseph Ye shall cleave unto ONE wife and NONE else. Joseph also said "he forbids the practice. [polygamy] Joseph also said "no man shall have but ONE wife" He also said "let polygamy, bigamy, and fornication to be frowned out of the hearts of honest men to drop in the gulf of fallen nature where the worm dieth not and the fire is not quenched"

@@didjosephsmithpracticepolygamy Yep. John Taylor and Wilford Woodruff also signed documents and issued statements saying they didn't have extra wives when at the time they did. What do you make of those? These things were illegal. No one was trying to go to jail. The evidence that Joseph practiced polygamy is overwhelming. Do you think all of the women involved were making it up?

@kuriju88 Joseph said in defense of those accusations of polygamy, "I have rattled chains before in a dungeons for the truth's sake. I am innocent of all these charges, and you can bear witness of my innocence..." I think there could be multiple explanations for the women's affidavits. The fact remains that there is not a single contemporary source from any of those women or their families or their neighbors or friends, not one journal entry or anything. That is far more telling than having multiple women who are married to the hierarchy and believe that polygamy is needed for salvation and the leaders are prophets. All this 40+ years later and suspiciously around the same time. That and we know the history was altered from anti-polygamy statements to pro-polygamy. Etc... It's hard to explain everything in a single comment, but I can confidently say that I don't believe Joseph practiced polygamy.

@didjosephsmithpracticepolygamy 49 There are contemporary accounts though by many people both friends and enemies of Joseph. You can read Martha Brothertons 1843 affidavit, that’s while Joseph was still alive

Heyyy what’s up cousin

Go actually read the Bible . Read the war in heaven when he was thrown out with others for rebellion against God . That makes him a spirit child of God like all of us .

@lindamartinez7006 s*t*n is a created being not human but an angel. He rebelled against the Creator and with those who followed him were cast down.

While most of the revelations Joseph Smith received gave instructions, counsel, and doctrinal teachings or recovered sacred stories from the ancient past, a few contained historically specific prophecies about impending events.1 Those that did usually focused on global events leading up to the Second Coming of Jesus Christ or on specific endeavors in which the Saints were commanded to participate. One of Joseph Smith’s most well-known millennial prophecies related to the American Civil War. On December 25, 1832, Joseph Smith received a revelation prophesying that a war between the northern and southern U.S. states would begin in South Carolina and that wars and uprisings throughout the earth would finally result in the “end of all Nations” at the time of the Second Coming of Jesus Christ. At the time the revelation was received, South Carolina and the federal government of the United States were involved in a dispute, but it was peacefully resolved the next March. Years later, Joseph reiterated his prophecy that war would break out in South Carolina over slavery debates, as it did nearly 20 years after Joseph Smith’s death.2 Joseph Smith also prophesied frequently concerning the future destiny of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and its role in the last days. Perhaps the most beloved of these prophecies was contained in an 1842 letter addressed to Chicago newspaper editor John Wentworth. “No unhallowed hand can stop the work from progressing,” Joseph affirmed, despite the adversity the young Church had already faced. “Persecutions may rage, mobs may combine, armies may assemble, calumny may defame, but the truth of God will go forth boldly, nobly, and independent, till it has penetrated every continent, visited every clime, swept every country, and sounded in every ear, till the purposes of God shall be accomplished and the Great Jehovah shall say the work is done.”3 Many of Joseph Smith’s prophecies were visionary statements about the Lord’s will for the Church, which the Saints understood as being predicated on their faith and on human agency.4 Many of these prophecies were fulfilled as the Saints moved ahead in faith to carry them out. In other instances, the Saints struggled to make sense of the difficulties they encountered as they pursued inspired objectives. For example, the Latter-day Saints’ earliest understandings of the prophecies concerning a future Zion focused on building a city in Jackson County, Missouri. After they were driven from the land, additional revelation helped them understand their experience and find new ways to channel their energy toward completing the Lord’s work. It also reassured them that when “their enemies come upon them, and hinder them from performing that work,” the Lord would “require that work no more” and “accept of their offering.”5 Although the loss of the land of Zion tried their faith, Church members continued to work to build up Zion in other places and ways.6 The Saints in Kirtland experienced a trial of faith connected with another of Joseph Smith’s prophetic statements. In late 1836 through the spring of 1837, Joseph Smith told the Saints that Kirtland would prosper economically if they would keep the commandments and support a new local financial institution called the Kirtland Safety Society.7 When the bank collapsed, some Saints treated Joseph Smith’s language as failed prophecy. Others looked for God’s blessings even in their economic trials.8 Oliver Granger, who accepted an assignment to handle Church-related debts in the wake of the larger economic collapse, was later reassured by the Lord that “his sacrifice shall be more sacred unto me, than his increase.”9 Some of the most stirring stories from Church history recount the efforts of Saints who exercised faith in Joseph Smith’s revealed pronouncements and worked to bring them about. On April 26, 1838, Joseph Smith received a revelation that instructed the Twelve Apostles to depart from Far West for a mission to England in one year’s time. When the Saints were driven out of Missouri that fall, some called it a false prophecy. Despite facing potential violence or imprisonment in returning to Missouri, Brigham Young was determined to act in accordance with the prophecy. He led the Twelve in a clandestine trip back to Far West, Missouri, and under cover of darkness on April 26, 1839, they departed symbolically on their mission in fulfillment of the commandment.10 Joseph Smith insisted on the freedom to state his own opinions. When someone told him they thought a prophet always speaks as a prophet, Joseph countered that “a Prophet was a Prophet only when he was acting as such.”11 At the same time, he did not shy away from speaking boldly when the Lord gave him revealed instructions, and he stood by his prophetic pronouncements. The gift of prophecy was an important aspect of Joseph Smith’s calling and legacy.

@@carolynschuster291 Satan, also called the adversary or the devil, is the enemy of all righteousness and of those who seek to follow God. He is a spirit son of God who was once an angel “in authority in the presence of God” (Doctrine and Covenants 76:25; see also Isaiah 14:12; Doctrine and Covenants 76:26-27). But in the premortal Council in Heaven, Lucifer, as Satan was then called, rebelled against God. Since that time, he has sought to destroy the children of God on the earth and to make them miserable. One primary issue in the conflict between God and Satan is agency. Agency is a precious gift from God; it is essential to His plan for His children. In Satan’s rebellion against God, Satan “sought to destroy the agency of man” (Moses 4:3). He said: “I will redeem all mankind, that one soul shall not be lost, and surely I will do it; wherefore give me thine honor” (Moses 4:1). Satan persuaded “a third part of the hosts of heaven” to turn away from the Father (Doctrine and Covenants 29:36). As a result of this rebellion, Satan and his followers were cut off from God’s presence and denied the blessing of receiving a physical body (see Revelation 12:9). Heavenly Father allows Satan and Satan’s followers to tempt us as part of our experience in mortality (see 2 Nephi 2:11-14; Doctrine and Covenants 29:39). Because Satan “seeketh that all men might be miserable like unto himself” (2 Nephi 2:27), he and his followers try to lead us away from righteousness. He directs his most strenuous opposition at the most important aspects of Heavenly Father’s plan of happiness. For example, he seeks to discredit the Savior and the priesthood, to cast doubt on the power of the Atonement, to counterfeit revelation, to distract us from the truth, and to contradict individual accountability. He attempts to undermine the family by confusing gender, promoting sexual relations outside of marriage, ridiculing marriage, and discouraging childbearing by married adults who would otherwise raise children in righteousness. Individuals do not have to give in to Satan’s temptations. Each person has the power to choose good over evil, and the Lord has promised to help all who seek Him through sincere prayer and faithfulness.

None of Smths prophecies failed.

Huh...? Did you not listen to him? He used to be an Anti-Mormon for several years, and that's what he used to think. He doesn't think that now. I knew him back when he was anti-mormon and interacted with him a little on one of the forums. It was nice to see his change. On the same forum, it was sad to see Kerry Shirts change into becoming anti-mormon and atheist.

OH! Thank you. I'm 3rd generation LDS and have read a lot of books by many different LDS Authors but never heard of him before and when he said that I just shut him off. @@leeuniverse

A deceiver and false prophet

You have to listen to all of Don Bradley.

​@@libertyordeath3874Don is saying in this video that Joseph was not an opportunist.