Changu...karakteur.

"Changie charecta"

Kazuya is tresh

go to the bin

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Facts

Yep more than the actual CBT

Bryan basically has a pseudo EWGF now with qcb1 too

What's the point in comparing those 2 Bryan is so much worse in 8 anyone who says or thinks he's actually better in 8 doesn't even play or understand the character👏👏

@@RezDK the point is that Bryan kept most of his old strong stuff and all of his new strong stuff. Kazuya kept none of his new strong stuff and lost a lot of his old strong stuff. I compare them because I play both :)

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He is played too much!

They made him look like a cuck comparing to jun and jin , so yeah he's the Mishima cuck now

Thank that to the community being crying babies

are they? because jack is crazy rn

Only for kazuya

Not true I dont think. Many characters still have it including Kazuya, who is now lil more poke and bait heavy. People just havent accepted/learned his new gameplan yet.

@@mowb Wym poke, he's still slow as fuck

Jack has easy mode death combos if you're near a wall and he grabs you.

the three horseman lel, triple J

Jack is crazy good. He is oppressive.

I dont see this as nerf.. rather its a sneak peek on kazuya goin SSJ3😂

They fraking removed the triple electric to heat smash combo??? That was the coolest combo in the game what the hell

Harada and Murray trolling hard😂

That would be hilarious as hell if true lol Next is to make EWGF +0 (jk jk jk)

Yeah bro DF14 misses so much omfg

I wonder if yall gonna eventually find new staples for Kaz? This is a new game with new mechanics after all so woudo it make sense that its time for everyone to fidn new staples?

@@i3ssb00st5 the staples in the CNT felt perfect as is, but the even the beta baby mode staple combos were inconsistent. Almost nothing is 100% consistent

@@S0M3GUY778 aint that because od the heat changes? And keep in mind, not all the chars are present during these tests so the reaction for the nerfs and buffs for the last 13 chars will be interesting to see lol

@@i3ssb00st5 no, it is literally because Kaz's key bound move has a janky hitbox now. Sometimes it will hit but reset the combo completely. His heat bound in particular had its hitbox nerfed which is detached from the general heat nerfs

All of the community's endless issues will continue to hender the game's potential and the characters in it. Tekken team should just throw the finger and make the project they want to make. They've built themselves up without entitled players angry tweeting them for years, they can do it some more.

@@Beforezzz The problem with that, is that the last time they did that, they made TTT2 - and that almost killed the franchise. The response was kneejerk kowtowing to every whine since.

@@TheKain202 Trust me, the balance issues are far from the worst thing that has happened to tag 2, If that truly was the case, then tekken 5 and 6 wouldn't have succeeded the way they did. Bad marketing, the fgc's popularity being at an all-time low, as well as outside factors hindering development (like Japan's 2011 tsunami) are what truly killed the game. I say honestly, bamco shouldn't be afraid of fan complains and go back to balancing the game the way they want to, there's no way that this would kill the series the same way tag 2 did.

@@TheKain202 Alot of things contributed to TTT2's poor sales, balance wasn't the big one. People will buy Tekken 8 regardless because the times we're in are much different from how things were in 2011.

And they defintely will. I actually dont really get all thise complains and debates about whos strong and whos not and making Tier Lists and stuff like that... the game isnt even out yet, nothing is done, many more characters are about to come, everyone needs to be balanced out and will get more changes until its release.

Great take, haven't been a kazuya main since br , but the 8 incarntion (cnt) was looking incredible. Hopefully for.the retail release they give him every thing back and tone down the damage heavily on df 3+4 (maybe 45 dmg or something) .

Facts, Kazuya was confident and oppressive now that he was the primary villain who succeeded. I enjoyed that part of his gameplay in the first test

Doesn’t even feel like T7 kaz. His combo routes and mix ups are way better on T7 now than T8.

@@wabriones276his combo routes are so so bad in t8 cbt it’s crazy

im confused besides combos and the crazy string what exactly changed

If Feng gets nerfed, everyone else has to be nerfed harder first so he gets away with it.

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Thanks for confirming it, thought I was going crazy

They should improve the damage on CD44 so that it deals 35 instead of 33.. Right now it deals only 2 damage more than CD41 and CD41 itself gives way better Oki.. +4 DMG would be worth it sometimes, kazuya players would perhaps think about using it

This is still just strictly worse than it used to be. It used to give a launch in the double low. “Safer on block” means nothing, if they duck you die, just like before you died if they ducked. But before you got a launch if they didn’t duck, now you get nothing. This is a non-statement

@@KazuyaKai1012It should probably deal even more dmg considering that it gives no oki. Like +6 dmg would fine, I think.

@@Shibu_PL yeah would be nice 👍

The high is -14

I’m still a noob in Tekken as I only main Noctis, but it appears Kazuya got screwed and it’s stupid. Your point that he is one of the two main characters in the game and then nerfed being stupid is right on. This is still beta and perhaps they’ll buff him on game release. Let’s hope. Kazuya is super cool and a Tekken staple.

And so the crying already begins, shocking...

​@@jamessummers5936doesnt really shock me because my main also got nerfed and theres crying there aswell while i was just lowkey shrugged it off

Cancelling your pre-order lol

im not buying shit until they fix it

Imo, the only nerf they needed to do for kazuya was his df 3+4 which they did (string isnt hit confirmable anymore) but holy hell these are a lot of nerfs to him. Hopefully they revert most of his nerfs

Couldn't agree with you more. I felt the exact same way. And Kazuya isn't even my main

Did a leak say they changed it? If you’re going off of 7, DJ Hellsweep was a full ass launch on normal hit, but scaled massively

if you commit to the full string, DJ hellsweep doesnt launch@@Retro_WrathX13B

Wtf did they get rid of his tackle

@@NYG5 yup azucena has it though from crouch..

That’s interesting. If that’s true, and they’re just going to roll back the nerfs to Kaz, it’s a massive relief. I hope TMM sees your comment, dude looked crestfallen in this video, and after all the years of top tier content he’s given us I really hated seeing him like that.

but these guys in comments sure did make Kaz look like a let down lol

Can't you dickjab with d1 instead?

This as well. I pocket main Jin but always played Kazuya. In Tekken 7 I've made it up right past red ranks with Kazuya in about 300-400 wins. 110 wins Jin still in orange. I was winning almost every game with Jin and struggling to win a round with Kazuya. They massacred my boy in Tekken 8 truly.

Bro you can do dickjab with d1 lol

The heat dash after bound is a universal nerf to every character so you clearly just don't know what you're talking about and your opinion is worthless

@@user-wg1gd5gg7s don't remember in which situations but sometimes d1 doesn't work, I had that problem back in T7 and db1 was the only consistent way to do it out of standing, I think d1 input is also slower to do it

Much appreciated man, maybe someday I'll become your main as well

Cope.

boohoo

I'm here, my man. And tell you what: when it comes to CBT Kazuya, TMM is right. :P What they did to his power mids such as db2 and SS3 is *downright cruel,* specially considering his then-newfound power, df3+4,1,2 string, was ALSO murdered because of some wimpy crybabies. Kazuya deserved that string to retain the natural combo and the hit-confirmable properties. It would be so cool to see skilled Kazuya players with great hit-confirming skills making use of that string in the open. "So you ducked because you're terrified of my HS? Take 70+ damage on this string I hit-confirmed and the knockdown + wave 50/50 and don't DARE to duck again." It was so simple to actually balance this string: just completely *remove any wallsplat possibility* and remove the pushback on the last hit energy geyser. It had to retain the natural combo and the hit confirm. The way it is right now, it merely became a wall ender: zero actual applications. Such a shame, such a waste. His HS dealing recoverable damage is anti-Kazuya in essence: you launch him and recover part of what you lost on the previous HS you didn't duck. TMM is, believe it or not, not downplaying Kazuya: his current state is actually VERY WEAK, whereas T8 Jin is an apocalyptical abomination.

But Nova... don't you think that the damage for Kazuya's four electric combo with no wall was way too much in CNT? Or any character for that matter. Shouldn't they buff his neutral game but keep the damage to a 100 rather than whooping kill combos?

@@trigger7814 Kazuya is supposed to hurt, pack a wallop. At least, from my point of view... XD Besides, by doing that he was investing a precious resource that is the heat gauge. He is prematurely activating the heat gauge that will start at 60% in order to do a damaging combo. He pretty much showed all his cards at once. Heat-based extended combos also scale like crazy. It's not like he would casually deal 130 damage every time he lands an EWGF on you. There's another detail that will greatly harm Kazuya: according to rumors, traditional Tekken movement is supposed to exist in this game, so he won't be casually tracking his weak side with the broken reliable tracker EWGF. Everything conspired against this guy. Not only the nerfs per se, but the newcoming game mechanics.

​@@trigger7814 Have you tried the other characters? Feng has a 112 dmg combo in ortiz farm wall to wall, while still being really strong in neutral and has good knowledge checks. Meanwhile some characters who struggle in neutral, focus on CH and punish don't have any wall carry OR damage. The balance is whack right now. They need to revert the combos to CNT, the characters all felt more balanced then. Because this CBT definitely IS a knee-jerk balance patch to complaints.

@@ZXtales23 I agree with that it's a bad patch to the balance no doubt. All I'm saying is, that much damage on ant character with no wall isn't fair be it Feng or Kazuya... if they want to buff the neutral game, sure I'm up for it but heat damage that goes to THOSE limits is too much. However, if they do buff the kaz 4 electrics then they need to avoid the said neutral buffs to him. It has to be one or the other, not both.

Kazuya should be high risk/ high reward, now he's just high risk/ NO reward whatsoever. It doesn't make any sense, this type of balancing is starting to give me doubts about the game

I don't see why he can't be both though, like keep one and give him some options and boom problem solved (esp seeing as removing choice removes half the fun, literally).

Well Kazuya is pretty easy

I thought hard equals to a better game according to these oldheads?

@@i3ssb00st5 Did you read the whole comment before replying?

Honestly I liked the CBT even though Kazuya was nerfed. He's not a bad character, but he lacks more damaging combo routes. But yeah, my issue with the game right now is their system to play with friends on arcade machines. You fall on people that don't want to rematch other people just for the sake of it but still stay on these machines. It's such a waste of time to then find a new session... Plus I got 3 crashes thanks to this mode which is RAM heavy and sometimes just soft-locked for fun. Anyway, content is good (still want my characters in the game), they're making efforts, but it's not ready yet, at least on PC, I hope it will get fixed before the game releases.

100% agree, hopefully by release they manage to improve the netcode & matching system as well as allow for more options than just 'Best of 3'.

They better

​@@LouSassol69er "What's that? Kazuya still too stronk? Let's turn his EWGF and twin pistons into counterhit launchers, like in T4!"

@@metsu-satsu4280 don't give them any ideas 😂

No he doesnt lol.almost any other character gets better damage than him

Lars is not that good, its just that the general ethos of Tekken 8 make him much more tolerable to play in Tekken 8

@@qweqweqwadcsc can you explain why lars is not good in t8?

@@tndmrappelz7210 still no i15 ch launcher, terrible movement, clunky stances (somewhat, 8 really tweaked it though but still clunky), still mediocre lows (but its much better to use now) Still the same weaknesses in Tekken 7 but at least they are not as apparent now due to Tekken 8’s ethos

@@qweqweqwadcsc thank you know you made me sure you don't know anything about the character in t8 you said no i15 ch launcher when this is the new lars identity so that's alright and let's not forget is that t8 is not about ch launchers at All you also said terrible movement here when i know exactly that you didn't play him -clunky stances with no explanation at all -mediocre lows lol i think you don't know is that lars now can do his fcd1+2 so fast from crouch you can make it came as i19 if you do it right so he have a -12 + 24dmg low on the neutral next time insted of repeating what mainman is saying have your own opinion

@@tndmrappelz7210 I dont even watch TMM, Im just here to scroll comments, counter reply dumb/stupid people and to hate comment I play against Koreans so I know my character, from Tekken 6 to Tekken 8 (and every change he got from the seasons) You cant easily tell me that I watch TMM just from the points I made, you’re the one projecting not knowing the character. I am also decent with the character across multiple games Stop playing against incompetent people and play against someone that actually knows how to play against the character from page 1 up until the glossary I will not respond any further and argue with someone as unintelligible as you. You destroyed my day

Totally agree. Granted I had a lot of fun playing Kaz in the betas. I love the heat system but I still feel like it’s the same problem as before.

why is it unacceptable tho?

because they’re the leading characters of T8

Because MANY OTHER PLAYERS SAID AND SHOWED OTHERWISE LOL. There is a reason why many players mentioned Kaz being weaker in yhis build while others outclass him.

kazuya mains been eating way too good in the back end of tekken 7... wayyyy too good. if kazuya goes down to being a bottom tier character in t8 then so be it. but dont dwell on it too much cos they will certainly make a ton of changes before release based on this beta and its community feedback.. basically mainman and his fanboy army need to whinge a load more about how kazuya is hardest to play and weakest character of all time and you might even get a ridiculous electric again.

It's funny that they'll nerf the crap out of kazuya but keep characters like Hwaorang perfectly spammable

@@seed8325 Yeah we eating good but we not fine dining like Jin’s and how’s bro