Did Slavery Affect Your Family? Africans vs African Americans | Middle Ground

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0:00 intro
0:33 slavery affected my family
4:27 racism is the main cause of poverty among black people in the USA
10:52 hip hop reinforces stereotypes
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@PrettyBrownEyes718
@PrettyBrownEyes718 Жыл бұрын
Always wanted to hear this conversation, but without a black American woman there you're missing a significant perspective. The impact of American slavery and everything else (systemic racism, welfare system, etc) on the black American woman is profound.
@nana8135
@nana8135 Жыл бұрын
thank YOU
@OTB2002
@OTB2002 Жыл бұрын
Why are Africans doing better in America compared to black Americans?
@lexvt3551
@lexvt3551 Жыл бұрын
Exactly what I was thinking
@gillianmurphy2111
@gillianmurphy2111 Жыл бұрын
I can't believe they couldn't find a black American woman to speak on this topic. Swing and a miss Jubilee.
@mizmimi54321
@mizmimi54321 Жыл бұрын
NO FOR REAL big fumble on Jubilee when there are countless texts easily available that talk about how Black women are ignored and overlooked in conversations about the Black experience
@InternetGirl1093
@InternetGirl1093 Жыл бұрын
I appreciate that Elizabeth acknowledged that many Africans see African Americans as just complaining, but realized the nuances that exist on both sides. That was great to hear.
@Ten_dai
@Ten_dai Жыл бұрын
Mostly because a ton of Africans don't seriously study history in school until uni, if even then,much less the history of the United States and African Americans so the ones who make those type of statements are usually doing it from a place of ignorance. Often it takes them decades of lining in the US to realize certain things. Others know what to expect but choose to deal with racism like a sort of 'immigrant tax', the price for the American dream.
@twistedbliss58
@twistedbliss58 Жыл бұрын
Because they are, very few people today have had their lives affected by slavery
@adrianna5378
@adrianna5378 Жыл бұрын
@@twistedbliss58 Definitely segregation though. It wasn’t that long ago.
@KimmyLL1890
@KimmyLL1890 Жыл бұрын
@@twistedbliss58 every single thing and everyone in America is affected by slavery that’s how the country even exists today. They are not “complaining” because they acknowledge that fact.
@steppinschool
@steppinschool Жыл бұрын
@@adrianna5378nobody age 30 or below have to deal with it though. Those are the main ones complaining.
@KayKashi
@KayKashi 6 ай бұрын
My girlfriend spent 5 years of her life in prison for a crime she didn’t commit. She’s the sweetest most tender hearted person I know and even tho she has been home for years it still affects her every day. The criminal just systematically targets us and throws us away
@saveyourtearsforanotherd4y
@saveyourtearsforanotherd4y 4 ай бұрын
im so sorry i hope shes doing better
@benbowland
@benbowland 4 ай бұрын
I'm so sorry. I can't even imagine what that does to your spirit
@FactsOVERFeelings100
@FactsOVERFeelings100 2 ай бұрын
LMFAO STOP THE CAP AND PLAYING THE VICTIM CARD LMFAO They had enough evidence to convince 12 jurors she did commit the crime or she supposedly had no choice but take a plea deal. SELF ACCOUNTABILITY
@QyonatheCreator
@QyonatheCreator 2 ай бұрын
@@FactsOVERFeelings100Central Park 5 is enough proof for you to eat your words & choke on them. Research before you allow racism to lead you back to ignorance.
@petep5207
@petep5207 Ай бұрын
@@FactsOVERFeelings100 YUP. Definitely a lot of details missing from that story--conveniently.
@lvencent
@lvencent 3 ай бұрын
I think the conversation was beautiful from cousins to cousins, understanding each others walk by sharing our shoes, bring us closer together and expand our respect-one-to-The-other ❤
@dylagence443
@dylagence443 11 ай бұрын
We need a African parents vs American parents episode, the chaos that would happen would be insane
@GreenBanana675
@GreenBanana675 11 ай бұрын
The absolute chaos.
@Retr0ver4
@Retr0ver4 10 ай бұрын
You are a officially a chaos bringer if this ever happens
@zeofighter9
@zeofighter9 10 ай бұрын
I agree
@The_Real_Kokichi_Oma
@The_Real_Kokichi_Oma 10 ай бұрын
YESSS
@amalmoallin
@amalmoallin 10 ай бұрын
😊😊😊
@dikhathatochimbwete2327
@dikhathatochimbwete2327 Жыл бұрын
A conversation all black people will appreciate and have waited for
@ishy6875
@ishy6875 Жыл бұрын
If you're African or African American.
@johnconnor4749
@johnconnor4749 Жыл бұрын
Not at all.
@MrsLizziee
@MrsLizziee Жыл бұрын
@@ishy6875 Well... not all africans are black.
@nicotinedietcoke
@nicotinedietcoke Жыл бұрын
I’m not black but I appreciate and have learned a lot from this video
@blue-yc6iu
@blue-yc6iu Жыл бұрын
No I can give af what a African says
@lifeordeath9228
@lifeordeath9228 6 ай бұрын
Not African or African American, but I am a First Gen Black (Caribbean) American. One thing I love about this conversation is that I relate to both camps, being perceived as and treated as an African American by society and having ingrained responsibility to pursue the American Dream to better support my family. This conversation gave me a lot to personally think about, this was a fantastic episode!
@konlish
@konlish 2 ай бұрын
I thought most Caribbeans have African heritage
@Wokemelanaire
@Wokemelanaire 2 ай бұрын
You’re a Caribbean American not a Black American
@barbiedreamzown
@barbiedreamzown Ай бұрын
You aren’t black American at all you’re Caribbean American
@lifeordeath9228
@lifeordeath9228 Ай бұрын
@barbiedreamzown reason I say Black (Caribbean) American is because while I acknowledge that I am literally a Caribbean American, I am socialized as Black / African American by American society. With the exception of keen Caribbean people, nobody is thinking I am anything other than African American. That's just how it is growing up here, if you are Black then you are put in the bucket of being African American even though that history does not inherently apply to you. Especially since I am able to articulate myself in an "American" accent, have a White sounding name, do not overtly wear or use anything that ties me to my Caribbean identity, or have any specific ethnic features that may allude that I am anything other than African American. Saying that I'm not a Black/African American doesn't make sense in that context. I am treated as one by society, so that is my lived experience. Even when I go back to the islands, they treat me as a foreigner despite my ethnic routes. Intersectionality due to nationally makes ethnic/racial matters more complex than one may think.
@Wokemelanaire
@Wokemelanaire Ай бұрын
@@lifeordeath9228 no you can identify however you want yet you chose to identify as one of the descendants of American chattel slavery.. you are NOT one of us! You have no ties to this land. You are neither a Black American or African American. You’re a Caribbean American. Accept your ethnicity. Be proud of your ethnicity and culture. Don’t cosplay our ethnicity and culture!
@manoftmrrw
@manoftmrrw 2 ай бұрын
This was very refreshing to watch. I'm happy to see progress in the unity of people of the diaspora. We must continue this conversation to know better and do better, my people
@somebodyoulove
@somebodyoulove Жыл бұрын
Africans went through colonization and African Americans went through slavery. We all have different but some what similar histories. Also this group seem so intelligent and respectful.
@deritmi_
@deritmi_ Жыл бұрын
agreed!
@woodzy4984
@woodzy4984 Жыл бұрын
Africans were sold buy their own country so I guess they went through slavery too.
@itsymmetry137
@itsymmetry137 Жыл бұрын
Africans also went through slavery; in fact, they played an integral part in creating the transatlantic slave trade.
@thepubquiz3198
@thepubquiz3198 Жыл бұрын
Everybody went through Colonization and slavery.
@nirvanak4634
@nirvanak4634 Жыл бұрын
@@thepubquiz3198 This video isn’t about everybody
@itsnatemate7697
@itsnatemate7697 Жыл бұрын
“But it’s still nothing compared to…” “I wouldn’t want to minimize that pain, what you just said hurt me…” I teared up. That’s how it should be nowadays. Instead of people putting down other marginalized groups history and gaslighting them with “well that was a long time ago” or “stop playing victim”
@klaudinegarcia8932
@klaudinegarcia8932 Жыл бұрын
IKR??? White people make it sound so easy to move on. African Americans were enslaved for 400 years or more. Do they really expect healing can happen over night??? 😅 And it's not just slavery trauma African Americans are struggling with. They're also struggling with an identity crisis because their ancestors had to assimilate (more like erase) their culture and language.
@neyou6940
@neyou6940 Жыл бұрын
Bunch of pussies
@Ninuoluwa
@Ninuoluwa Жыл бұрын
Yea that part touched me too. ❤
@heyitsbroski
@heyitsbroski Жыл бұрын
While it is tragic, they need to stop thinking they're the only ones that suffered. People of all races were slaves at one point or another and the transatlantic slave trade was NOT the worse of all-time. They need to start blaming their own people, the Africans that sold them to the Europeans for weapons. Blame the Jews that owned and operated the ships that brought them over. Staying in the victimhood mentality will always give them a reason to blame others rather than taking action of their own lives to better themselves and their culture.
@swanton47
@swanton47 Жыл бұрын
@@heyitsbroski chattel slavery is nothing like the other forms of slavery and nobody said we were the only ones. The fact that other people were slaves does not minimize what we’ve been through when those scars and the affects are literally still here today. There were wars fought to get us back and some slaves were prisoners beforehand. And damn ok blame everyone except the white colonizers? Jews didn’t have as big of a role as you think
@briannawillis1124
@briannawillis1124 7 ай бұрын
I'm DEFINITELYYYY gonna need to come back & rewatch this because everyone's mind is evolving my own perception of society. I JUST LOVE SEEING STRONG, EDUCATED BLACK FOLK SPEAKING TRUTH !!!!!
@dmoney_pimpslap
@dmoney_pimpslap 3 ай бұрын
You act like "educated black folk" are the anomaly.
@briannawillis1124
@briannawillis1124 3 ай бұрын
@@dmoney_pimpslap I just love seeing the media coverage of it!! I go to an HBCU & I manage a trade school that teaches at risk youth life skills, so I’m constantly surrounded by very intellectual, promising individuals. Some people don’t have that opportunity, so it’s nice to see a video that shows the perception of educated POC.
@TheBarbequeKid
@TheBarbequeKid 2 ай бұрын
​@@dmoney_pimpslap in all honesty they are, that's just the truth
@shannondbrown1552
@shannondbrown1552 5 ай бұрын
I thoroughly enjoyed this panel. It is so interesting to hear their perspective and the stereotypes they have about us. I was pleased to see that once they heard the other out and put themselves in their shoes they were able to understand better. Such a wonderfully diverse and intelligent group of people. I think we should have way more discussions like this on higher platforms where some changes can actually be made. This world has turned into such a hateful horrible place and I’m afraid of where we are going…..
@jackieferrarimusic
@jackieferrarimusic Жыл бұрын
Freedom isn't just physical. It's also mental. You can be physically free and mentally enslaved to an ideology or something you have been through
@racheljohnson7177
@racheljohnson7177 Жыл бұрын
Very true
@animejesus8940
@animejesus8940 Жыл бұрын
preach
@omnium_gatherum
@omnium_gatherum Жыл бұрын
Or even mentally enslaved to something someone else has been through
@bibaolaitan5189
@bibaolaitan5189 Жыл бұрын
So how do you get out of it..... is it not by just being honest with yourself, instead of just blaming people.
@dhisufiroafrozenseraphimdragon
@dhisufiroafrozenseraphimdragon Жыл бұрын
That is totally true.
@ParadiseLoading
@ParadiseLoading Жыл бұрын
It is so refreshing to see an actual dialogue with no screaming, yelling, name-calling, or cutting people off mid-sentence. I loved the mutual respect!
@deejay7339
@deejay7339 Жыл бұрын
That's yt behavior. Since there are none present, you see civility.
@0Honey_Nut_Cheetos0
@0Honey_Nut_Cheetos0 Жыл бұрын
@@deejay7339 That’s racist
@deejay7339
@deejay7339 Жыл бұрын
@@0Honey_Nut_Cheetos0 facts can't be racist
@0Honey_Nut_Cheetos0
@0Honey_Nut_Cheetos0 Жыл бұрын
@@deejay7339 What about your comment is factual? Watch you not respond, avoid the question, or straight up lie.
@deejay7339
@deejay7339 Жыл бұрын
@@0Honey_Nut_Cheetos0 All of my comment is factual. ✅ And nice job thumbs upping yourself in a min lmao.
@ladybugblack
@ladybugblack 2 ай бұрын
We need more conversations like this. Everyone speaking with respect & understanding. I love it 🖤🖤🖤
@johnnyjohnson7077
@johnnyjohnson7077 5 ай бұрын
Very insightful discussions that were needed for some time. Reading other people's comments about the panel clearly impacted their perspectives, unexpectedly. The panel handled themselves well.
@KamariaP
@KamariaP Жыл бұрын
This episode is how Africans and African Americans should be towards each other. I loved how open and accepting everyone was towards the different opinions. As someone who is African American, it does feel like there is a divide between us when there shouldn't be. I wish as a whole we could be more like this. Great conversation guys!
@sasazamami
@sasazamami Жыл бұрын
but if you listen to the answers, you can hear how the Africans are grateful to the White Americans and that is what make us different. they have abandoned their homeland to do the white man's bidding and undermine the Black American struggle for reparations and liberation.
@timbredan3476
@timbredan3476 Жыл бұрын
@@sasazamami well said
@justwallace
@justwallace Жыл бұрын
cause we didnt create the divide
@angela7014
@angela7014 Жыл бұрын
@@sasazamami stop whining
@sasazamami
@sasazamami Жыл бұрын
@@angela7014 where you from?
@Jemimahcheesburger
@Jemimahcheesburger Жыл бұрын
As Africans, we experience a very deep level of discrimination where there are divides amongst the people. There's a quote that says, "When brothers fight each other, outsiders inherit their property." And that is exactly what happens.
@snowfall2507
@snowfall2507 Жыл бұрын
Yessssss!!!! I agree with this 100%
@nwalden5744
@nwalden5744 Жыл бұрын
Y’all created it tho
@putinsgaytwin4272
@putinsgaytwin4272 Жыл бұрын
Love that quote. I feel like it's applicable in every culture
@looper964
@looper964 Жыл бұрын
When brothers sell their brothers Fixed it for you
@edwinamendelssohn5129
@edwinamendelssohn5129 Жыл бұрын
Despots divide to conquer. Always have
@Becca77720
@Becca77720 7 ай бұрын
I agree with Prosper and Elizabeth love what they were saying.💜
@iyannawilliams3029
@iyannawilliams3029 2 ай бұрын
I loved this conversation! I loved the many differences in the room and how everyone was able to disagree but still respect each other.
@mosandkaka
@mosandkaka Жыл бұрын
As an African I appreciate the efforts of African Americans for fighting for the betterment of all black people in America. Without that fight us Africans would not be benefiting from these benefits.
@merrytunes8697
@merrytunes8697 Жыл бұрын
Thank you! That seems to be lost on some, as the only welcomed immigrants for decades were from European countries. Without the African American fight, there would be no African immigrants.
@cutiepiettvjackson8744
@cutiepiettvjackson8744 Жыл бұрын
This is true, without the fight, Africans would be sent back to Africa and not even allowed the benefit of a better life, bullied, etc. All the things blacks went through would be put on Africans and it would be horrific, so the fight was worth it in the end. I do believe Black America has gotten way better for blacks.
@floridababy974
@floridababy974 Жыл бұрын
What benefits?
@Nostalgia-im6wi
@Nostalgia-im6wi Жыл бұрын
@@merrytunes8697 YES!! Sometimes it's so difficult to explain this to people for some reason.
@pierrejacque1994
@pierrejacque1994 Жыл бұрын
@@merrytunes8697 oh men thank you oh afro american but we are the richest black we also suceed thanks to our work
@ceeshaki7305
@ceeshaki7305 Жыл бұрын
as an nigerian american, i appreciate this conversation it’s something we need to continue.
@itsprincipe
@itsprincipe Жыл бұрын
nigérian american how does that make sense
@religiohominilupus5259
@religiohominilupus5259 Жыл бұрын
@@itsprincipe Actually makes a lot more sense than saying "African American," "American," or even ""European." Neither of those are countries, they're continents. Nigeria's a country, so is the US, and so is Spain, just to name three. So yeah, OP specifying they're Nigerian American makes perfect sense. At least to me.
@umiprincesscosplay
@umiprincesscosplay Жыл бұрын
@@itsprincipe it’s like Italian American, it’s a country within a continent. Like Nigeria is a country within the continent of Africa.
@petergeramin7195
@petergeramin7195 Жыл бұрын
@@umiprincesscosplay What are you talking about?
@itsprincipe
@itsprincipe Жыл бұрын
@@religiohominilupus5259 ok so would they be from america but their half nigerian or what
@SanctusObscurum
@SanctusObscurum 7 ай бұрын
What a beautiful and respectful discussion
@user-oz9ie1hp9r
@user-oz9ie1hp9r 2 ай бұрын
Native American vs African American
@kagisoselekisho229
@kagisoselekisho229 2 ай бұрын
The way I rarely see native americans in these jubilee videos is concerning..do they think they have nothing to add.
@catherinecampbell1215
@catherinecampbell1215 Жыл бұрын
As a black person born and raised in America with a Nigerian dad, this conversation is really great to see.
@nigeriansista
@nigeriansista Жыл бұрын
Yes, same here! I have a Nigerian dad and American mom
@miurtouissi1093
@miurtouissi1093 Жыл бұрын
Do you consider yourself African American?
@maryb.5668
@maryb.5668 Жыл бұрын
@@miurtouissi1093 I'm also a Nigerian raised in America. I don't consider myself African American because I'm truly not a direct descendant of slaves. Culturally though, Im a mix (I grew up under AA influences outside but at home, it was all Nigerian). It gets a bit complicated. but I consider myself a Nigerian simply living in America
@miurtouissi1093
@miurtouissi1093 Жыл бұрын
@@maryb.5668 this is interesting. I'm Canadian from the Caribbean and I consider myself Canadian. I've always wondered how other black people from the diaspora living in the USA felt about their identity since AA have a strong culture and history but also being born in America for most makes you American. I guess I thought you would always see yourself as a Nigerian American but then I would also understand not since I would say I'm Canadian. I guess the slavery aspect of it is part of AA identity. I hadn't thought about that since I myself am a descendant of slaves.
@bryant475
@bryant475 Жыл бұрын
It comes down to Parenting/Mindset/Culture (PMC), not race. Africans/Caribbean tend to be more successful because of PMC, that places high value on Godly morals, hard work and education, etc. Similar to Asians and other groups. Victim vs Victor mentality!
@vic902
@vic902 Жыл бұрын
As an African, I also think that because we are immigrants and had the choice of coming to America, that experience in itself will be quite different from African Americans who were initially forced to come over and went through generations of being in a system that didn’t allow them to have opportunities for career growth . Most African immigrants WHO do come over, have at some capacity exposure to education, work experience or connections. Not saying there are Africans who don’t come to America struggling but coming over to America requires most immigrants (especially African immigrants)to have some sort of aspect that makes them “valuable” for them to even attain a visa. I really don’t like when people try to say that Africans are more “successful” than AA cause we work harder and are not lazy. AA are just as successful but there are still families that are still going through that cycle of poverty and trauma due to slavery. While most Africans who happen to migrate to America with a set plan with high exposure are probably going to be successful anyways and instill that in their children. Comparing both groups in numbers regarding success misrepresents it cause keep in mind there are Africans back home who are also still trying to break cycles of poverty. So I’m just saying that immigrant experience is very much distinct than that of AA experience.
@Queenc782
@Queenc782 Жыл бұрын
Very well said 👏🏽
@timbredan3476
@timbredan3476 Жыл бұрын
So well said!
@anyaw340
@anyaw340 Жыл бұрын
Completely agree. The US government does not select just anyone to come to the US, since many people would come here and be burdens on US society. They select people who have already demonstrated that they can persevere and achieve some level of success in their own countries. These are people who have already *proven* to be ambitious and talented in their own countries, but just need the tools of a first world country to really reach their potential. These are the kinds of people the US selects. Thus, immigrants in general (not just Africans) are more successful than *all* native-born Americans (not just African Americans) because they were selected specifically for accomplishments they've already made before they even got here. That's certainly a compliment to immigrant populations, but it's not reflective of their cultures in general.
@vic902
@vic902 Жыл бұрын
@@anyaw340 Exactly💯👏🏽👏🏽
@mazvitaaa
@mazvitaaa Жыл бұрын
You definitely hit the nail on the head.
@user-rq9ti9pk2t
@user-rq9ti9pk2t 6 ай бұрын
I’m so glad to see Elizabeth back❤
@JulindaLeDee
@JulindaLeDee 6 ай бұрын
This is a wonderful and much needed conversation
@peachica
@peachica Жыл бұрын
goodness. everyone here is very insightful, intelligent, and they know how to have a proper discussion without being rude, interrupting, or disrespecting others. the best middle ground group hands down.
@triple_gem_shining
@triple_gem_shining Жыл бұрын
🤡
@career5690
@career5690 Жыл бұрын
@@triple_gem_shining ?
@career5690
@career5690 Жыл бұрын
@Mike Tython 🛑 that
@milk6-
@milk6- Жыл бұрын
Maybe they meant her pfp
@peachica
@peachica Жыл бұрын
@@milk6- my FKA twigs pfp?
@antibullshit
@antibullshit Жыл бұрын
One of the best (and probably the most respectful) Middle Ground episodes to date
@dapo3538
@dapo3538 Жыл бұрын
💯
@chrisvibz4753
@chrisvibz4753 Жыл бұрын
yeah because it was two of the same race homie. You just don’t see people liking white mfs anymore even tho they weren’t there during slavery you know?
@career5690
@career5690 Жыл бұрын
It is
@createyouthnetwork9791
@createyouthnetwork9791 Жыл бұрын
Mesmo 😂😅
@Asherons
@Asherons Жыл бұрын
Uh, wym? By the end of the video "white" people = still bad, which makes the whole video low IQ. The USA had a black president for 8 years.
@cupofchi_
@cupofchi_ 7 ай бұрын
i love this so much and this is my second video that ive seen with elizabeth. i just love her personality and wisdom.
@brightshining
@brightshining 8 ай бұрын
A most beautiful conversation, threading connection in our frayed world
@inlivingcolor...abroad6099
@inlivingcolor...abroad6099 Жыл бұрын
I love how Kai turned that statement about race obsession around. The reason why race is such a prominent conversation in America is in fact b/c laws were based on race and oppressing others for hundreds of years. You can’t hit someone repeatedly in the face and then say “let’s just move on”
@suzygirl1843
@suzygirl1843 Жыл бұрын
Wakanda Forever movie definitely had a hand in this happening because Africans and black Americans need to come together
@_callmetre_2369
@_callmetre_2369 Жыл бұрын
@@suzygirl1843 I also think people completely missed the fact that Wakanda itself is supposed to be before Africa was colonized. So that’s why it’s an array of Black African folks in the movie. Like Winston Duke is from Trinidad. Letitia is Guyanese-British & the list just goes on & on. I think Ryan Coogler tried to included every ethnicity from the African Diaspora in the movie.
@StarMercurian
@StarMercurian Жыл бұрын
THIS
@yungmetr0135
@yungmetr0135 Жыл бұрын
the black people alive now did not get to experience laws that were based on race so what are u saying
@devronl08
@devronl08 Жыл бұрын
@@yungmetr0135You’re acting as if the 60’s was over hundreds of years ago. Both of my parents were born BEFORE the civil rights movement. Not to mention my grandparents. MANY black people alive today have experienced laws based on slavery. And they still trickle into our laws today. Also my generation( in my family) is the first since the civil rights movement, so we aren’t far removed at all.
@yankytank09
@yankytank09 Жыл бұрын
I'm glad they had an older person's perspective. I wish there were an older perspective on the African side. All in all, this conversation was so healthy and insightful! 🙏🏾
@liberatambua7271
@liberatambua7271 Жыл бұрын
That would have been amazing. Our African grandparents have stories to tell, stories of the excruciating pain they went through under the colonial rule. There are some freedom fighters still alive in Kenya, and I doubt any of them wants to hear the name of the late queen, sorry to say
@angelazsz
@angelazsz Жыл бұрын
i absolutely agree. an episode with elders of different cultures on the question of “how is life better/worse now than before” would be extremely insightful and educational
@baridakara
@baridakara Жыл бұрын
Yupp
@Q.T-T
@Q.T-T Ай бұрын
They also need a woman on the AA side..
@richardrodney2274
@richardrodney2274 26 күн бұрын
This is lovely and everyone was open minded they came to give perspectives and learn understandings
@meeraftaddesse8956
@meeraftaddesse8956 5 ай бұрын
I loved this discussion. I wish it would happen more often.
@mayap3738
@mayap3738 Жыл бұрын
I appreciated Elizabeth (Nigerian sista) because she acknowledged the negative way that many Africans feel about black/African-Americans but also confessed that through experience and research she was able to develop a more well rounded understanding. Hearing Africans say that their families are back home dying to come to America really makes me sad whenever I hear it cuz it should really be the other way around. We should be dying to come there.
@isaiahprater8325
@isaiahprater8325 Жыл бұрын
Do they not teach this at school?
@isaiahprater8325
@isaiahprater8325 Жыл бұрын
@Gleeful Glock bro who are you to say what I can and can not survive!? Once again, you fools continue to act like yall are better just because you don't use deodorant.
@gleefulglock9461
@gleefulglock9461 Жыл бұрын
@Derrick Bol Yakwa 6’3 Most 😉
@Bv3276
@Bv3276 Жыл бұрын
@@derrickbolyakwa6395I’m an African American that just found her roots(Tikar of Cameroon) via AfricanAncestry test and I appreciate that. I love y’all fr! 🫶🏽
@BB-ji3bb
@BB-ji3bb Жыл бұрын
@@isaiahprater8325 😂😂😂 "Because you don't use deodorant" you're shameless, read a book abeg. You're uninformed
@Olivia-mj4vv
@Olivia-mj4vv Жыл бұрын
One of the most chill Middle Ground episodes. There's no major arguing and fighting, just some understanding and calm talking and laughing. It's refreshing.
@idku6554
@idku6554 Жыл бұрын
Honestly they should add in the casting the requirement of letting others talk and not interrupt. It gets so annoying I’ve stopped watching videos that was interested in because the people arguing would just shout at each other
@gerissethlavalle6593
@gerissethlavalle6593 5 ай бұрын
One of the most respectful discussions I’ve seen on this channel. Great job!
@wintervanilla1966
@wintervanilla1966 4 ай бұрын
Watching from Nigeria and I'll say this is one of the best video I've watched and about racism part it is not something I'll ignore because if i face racism I'll be affected physically, mentally and emotionally
@jessicakarenmartin
@jessicakarenmartin Жыл бұрын
"Race isn't an obsession, it's a distraction..." - Very true!!
@TychoKingdom
@TychoKingdom Жыл бұрын
Race is the law of the land.
@ALemonAteHer
@ALemonAteHer Жыл бұрын
It's a distraction when your obsessed with it
@god563616
@god563616 Жыл бұрын
yes
@Moepowerplant
@Moepowerplant Жыл бұрын
I have a suspicion that differences in skin color, etc. are simply excuses to rally the masses (perhaps the only people who actually care about those things) of their respective nations behind them, but the elite know the real division in society: haves and have-nots.
@edwinamendelssohn5129
@edwinamendelssohn5129 Жыл бұрын
@@TychoKingdom where?
@maggiemuriithi9648
@maggiemuriithi9648 Жыл бұрын
Elizabeth is just amazing How she puts her African perspective to her American life is beautiful Kudos from 🇰🇪🇰🇪
@FelipeLobos-ig9px
@FelipeLobos-ig9px 5 ай бұрын
I love it.. This is a balanced conversation. This was done correct.
@carlossantiago9926
@carlossantiago9926 2 ай бұрын
I love this one. Great conversation. It breaks my heart that racism is still a thing in this country. I legitimately thought that racism was something of the past when I learned about it in detail back in high school. It wasn't until my late 20's-early 30's that I started seeing that this crap was alive and well. I come from European decent with an eighth indigenous American and 3% African blood. I'm mixed up and so is everyone else. I wish people would recognize this, grow up, and let the hate go. Look at the big picture and realize that we are beautiful creatures sharing a tiny, little planet. I wish we could figure out how to look out for each other and play fair. There is no room for racism in my world-view.
@panlis6243
@panlis6243 Жыл бұрын
As a polish person, I would love to see more episodes with people outside of USA
@sleepyboi1964
@sleepyboi1964 Жыл бұрын
this ^
@BitchChill
@BitchChill Жыл бұрын
This is a US channel
@piececake5820
@piececake5820 Жыл бұрын
@@BitchChill yeah, but an european episode would be so nice. Like to have people from different countries there to talk.
@necrom4454
@necrom4454 Жыл бұрын
@@BitchChill Yet they got African people for this episode
@juanitacolette5766
@juanitacolette5766 Жыл бұрын
@@necrom4454what?
@anodaone6525
@anodaone6525 Жыл бұрын
I think as black people, we need more of these conversations with each other. Black people all over need this. It helps us understand each other more.
@fahimkar3361
@fahimkar3361 Жыл бұрын
Africans are Africans. Afro Americans are black people. Just Afro Americans.
@Northseattle-
@Northseattle- Жыл бұрын
Ya ✊🏾✊🏿
@someanimefan5990
@someanimefan5990 9 ай бұрын
" Black people all over need this" Nope, not the privileged blacks in countries where they're the dominant majority; the privileged dominant majority should not play identity politics.
@krash2430
@krash2430 8 ай бұрын
oh so now they are the privileged ones? not the americans that have acess to everything they need and yet still cry ? @@someanimefan5990ps: i'm not talking about the video
@shawny5338
@shawny5338 8 ай бұрын
@@someanimefan5990 Those and Conservative blacks are exactly who need to be a part of these conversations. Otherwise, you will only be in your own bubble and will never find alternatives or different points of view that could help Africans grow as a community.
@konlish
@konlish 2 ай бұрын
That was quite interesting thank you all for sharing your experience and views. I'm from Indian heritage and grew up in several African countries. I have an interest in cultural diversity so I do ask people where they are from as a way to get to know them
@tressy92
@tressy92 8 ай бұрын
What I’ve noticed in regards to AA progression is; while there are programs available to apply for to get grants for small business or loans, when large amounts of Black people begin to apply for things like that rules and laws are created to slow the progression or loan rates are higher because of where they are from-the red line comes into play. So you move forward a bit, but “don’t try to get past or catch up” to others.
@shuffler111100
@shuffler111100 Жыл бұрын
I really wish there was someone from the Caribbean in this conversation. I feel we have a unique perspective as African descendants. Hopefully there's an opportunity for that to him in the future.
@youtubesucks1821
@youtubesucks1821 Жыл бұрын
Big up to yout dem!
@Aniwazoa
@Aniwazoa Жыл бұрын
I was thinking that as well!
@anne-juliest-leger948
@anne-juliest-leger948 Жыл бұрын
Even Afro Canadian
@youtubesucks1821
@youtubesucks1821 Жыл бұрын
@@anne-juliest-leger948 Who? Nobody cares about Canada.
@YPM498
@YPM498 Жыл бұрын
@@youtubesucks1821 😂
@reeik9000
@reeik9000 Жыл бұрын
Best video they have posted. The Africans & African Americans really needed this conversation.
@Ms.AshleyHoney
@Ms.AshleyHoney Жыл бұрын
I Agree
@naomimosby5575
@naomimosby5575 Жыл бұрын
I agree with this
@thomaslinen9823
@thomaslinen9823 6 ай бұрын
We need to do this more. I tell my friends from Africa to stop judging Africans from America. We been through a lot. Miseducation, trauma, economic depreciation and terror. All of this was done to divide and conquer. Great video!
@keelahcovington4185
@keelahcovington4185 20 күн бұрын
We don’t claim Africa. We are Black Americans!!!!! Thank you.
@MakeUpRoom1940
@MakeUpRoom1940 Ай бұрын
This was an amazing conversation ! Thank you. Kai is a Gem xxoo
@NonStopParis
@NonStopParis Жыл бұрын
I can’t help but feel there was a lost opportunity to include a black American woman. Other than that, very insightful and fascinating conversation.
@jordanleighwheatley
@jordanleighwheatley Жыл бұрын
I agree and would've loved for a conversation between the women about racism in healthcare with those perspectives
@zibz_art
@zibz_art Жыл бұрын
Yes, I thought about that too. When they were talking about a divide in African American communities, I wish there was a black woman, who experience/seen colorism to speak about it.
@jordanleighwheatley
@jordanleighwheatley Жыл бұрын
@@zibz_art maybe they will repeat this episode and talk more about specific industries and racism. Retail, hospitality, healthcare, etc.
@Prodbytocile
@Prodbytocile Жыл бұрын
@@zibz_art the American African American would've fucked that up
@zibz_art
@zibz_art Жыл бұрын
@@Prodbytocile I am not sure why you would think that... strange...
@magdalinenjeri5262
@magdalinenjeri5262 Жыл бұрын
Very informative conversation. I am African and what prosper said about Tribalism is very accurate. The 'racism' we face here in Africa is in the form of 'Tribalism'. I am glad both sides acknowledge each others pain and points of view.
@Sirie7206
@Sirie7206 11 ай бұрын
I had an Ethiopian friend. Beautiful girl. The Caribbean black girls hated her for being so beautiful. One time they tried fighting her at a club, they threw drinks at her. She would get the same hate from non African black girls. May she R.I.P.
@Touchedbygod122
@Touchedbygod122 10 ай бұрын
So it’s not racism it’s self hate and the lack of a common identity and ideology with you guys ! Similar but tribalism is not the same thing as racism
@magdalinenjeri5262
@magdalinenjeri5262 10 ай бұрын
@@Touchedbygod122 Quick question, where are you from? I ask this because just like we Africans cannot speak on racism(because we rarely rarely experience is first hand) if you haven't experienced tribalism first hand (like most Africans have,especially in my country) you shouldn't have such a "bold" opinion on it. While they are not exactly the same thing,they have similar effects on communities/people.
@Touchedbygod122
@Touchedbygod122 10 ай бұрын
@@magdalinenjeri5262 Colorism is a form of tribalism We also have different demographics within the black community Afro Latin Creole And all other kind of mixture bi-racial That don’t classify themselves as solely black! Because of the exotic fetishized culture in the community from slavery la casta , platoons and quadroons . Just like the Indian caste system !! You should study more history!! We also were apart of an African tribe before slavery!!! So we can speak to the experience of tribalism!! Try again!
@bgsonsthriving.
@bgsonsthriving. 9 ай бұрын
Yes Tribalism is Africa’s biggest threat of racism is sad
@dolled-upjen3606
@dolled-upjen3606 6 ай бұрын
This was a great conversation.
@dr.dylan123
@dr.dylan123 7 ай бұрын
Victim mentality will never help you. The dude in blue was the only one who understood this
@majidMouzin
@majidMouzin Жыл бұрын
I'm not black, not African, not American and not white. So as a total outsider to this conversation, i really appreciate how everyone was so understanding of each other's points and there was no angry dismissiveness. Gained a lot of perspective.
@corythegoat2745
@corythegoat2745 11 ай бұрын
And black Americans ain't African! But some Africans ancestry is from America!
@frenchkisse.
@frenchkisse. 10 ай бұрын
@@corythegoat2745 literally all black people are originally from Africa, what are u on abt
@xiao-sn1lq
@xiao-sn1lq 10 ай бұрын
⁠@@corythegoat2745black americans have african ancestry and how would african people have ancestry from america
@xiao-sn1lq
@xiao-sn1lq 10 ай бұрын
they’d be mixed
@tylerrenz2505
@tylerrenz2505 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to watch. Means a lot that you seek understanding and not judgement. Cool human 😊
@Blakkbarbii101
@Blakkbarbii101 Жыл бұрын
I’m from Senegal and I applied to be on this episode because these topics are so interesting. The people chosen were great. In high school I wanted nothing more than to share Africa with African Americans. Although many rejected me and mocked me for my background, some accepted me and l cherish those relationships greatly. I wish for African Americans to understand that we are truly not that different from each other. Hating each other fuels the fire of hatred that slavery and colonization created which means we lose in the end while they laugh at our demise. I wouldn’t be here freely as an African if it weren’t for your struggles. Let’s work as a team and make our ancestors proud. It’s a family reunion ❤
@blomobloom9639
@blomobloom9639 Жыл бұрын
How do you apply
@sparklesp9304
@sparklesp9304 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, some of our ancestors came from Senegal as well actually looking at DNA tests. I'd love to learn more. Im glad the Camaroonian gentlemen was there.
@vilheard3030
@vilheard3030 Жыл бұрын
One of my best friends is from Senegal.
@Blakkbarbii101
@Blakkbarbii101 Жыл бұрын
@@vilheard3030 oh wow! It’s nice having friends from all walks of life.
@Blakkbarbii101
@Blakkbarbii101 Жыл бұрын
@@sparklesp9304 yeah the door of no return is in Senegal and so many slaves were taken from there as well 😢. I’m glad he was there also he had some great points.
@mjb6839
@mjb6839 5 ай бұрын
that stock analogy was brilliant
@micahcampbell9178
@micahcampbell9178 4 ай бұрын
This was a very smart episode
@jhsemoxitha3821
@jhsemoxitha3821 Жыл бұрын
Finally. The most requested video on Jubilee. This video was requested multiple times by multiple people for YEARS, and Finally it's here.
@daliborandic4046
@daliborandic4046 Жыл бұрын
True
@erilutsubayaki6262
@erilutsubayaki6262 Жыл бұрын
Ikr people have been waiting for ages
@itsonlytherain736
@itsonlytherain736 Жыл бұрын
I thought they would never make it
@career5690
@career5690 Жыл бұрын
@@itsonlytherain736 I thought that they wasn’t gonna make it too.
@sydneyr3460
@sydneyr3460 Жыл бұрын
Idk about y’all, but I’m disappointed
@zaiah9252
@zaiah9252 Жыл бұрын
As an African American, this conversation needs to happen
@ruthkashika5330
@ruthkashika5330 Жыл бұрын
As an African I agree
@jasmine-kg7dd
@jasmine-kg7dd Жыл бұрын
It already happened.
@robbobthebot7359
@robbobthebot7359 Жыл бұрын
@@jasmine-kg7dd he probably meant needed excuse his grammar
@kayaphus4303
@kayaphus4303 Жыл бұрын
African Americans have many excuses. Africans dont have the luxury of excuses.
@alexisrobinson9180
@alexisrobinson9180 Жыл бұрын
This conversation has been ongoing and tiresome there are entire chanels dedicated specifically for this
@zairaviteria
@zairaviteria 7 ай бұрын
This conversation was wholesome and healing.
@osazeimohe7269
@osazeimohe7269 3 ай бұрын
i love this video omg😩yall ATEEEEEE
@kassdremusic
@kassdremusic Жыл бұрын
I’m Nigerian and what Black Americans have done. Should be applauded more. They are great, talented people.
@fruitsarelife7073
@fruitsarelife7073 Жыл бұрын
I agree 100% . They deserve more credit and understanding. They are amazing and strong.❤️Im Eritrean.
@DefSquadFan
@DefSquadFan Жыл бұрын
The impact of slavery on law, generational wealth, self-esteem, culture, and relationships with whites today all come from slavery.
@travelpro23
@travelpro23 Жыл бұрын
And Africans would NOT be able to come to America and thrive without the sacrifices of American black people (civil rights movement, etc.). Do Africans really know and understand what people went through during the time of Jim Crowe and the horrific things people had to go through for basic rights, and African people just come to benefit off of all of that hard work??? Yes, it definitely needs to be applauded much more!
@queenbbeaute2654
@queenbbeaute2654 Жыл бұрын
Thank u We really appreciate it seems its easier for ppl to just hate first vs educate themselves and understand
@natriac.6092
@natriac.6092 Жыл бұрын
@@travelpro23 Why do you feel so attacked. Like you are being so passive-aggressive. "African people just come to benefit off of all of that hard work" Both sides suffered, for your information.
@Harzeezreport
@Harzeezreport Жыл бұрын
As an African-American in Atlanta, I have these conversations all of the time with African friends and their friend groups. I feel fortunate to have the upbringing and point of view that I do. It really helps in these conversations.
@nova77791
@nova77791 Жыл бұрын
The word slave comes from the word slav. The fa t is there were more white slaves in africa than black slaves in america...
@dondrickdem
@dondrickdem Жыл бұрын
@@nova77791 where's the proof
@nova77791
@nova77791 Жыл бұрын
@@dondrickdem just wiki it. Fairly easy if u really want to know
@nova77791
@nova77791 Жыл бұрын
@@dondrickdem u cant copy links to utube. But u can also look up the term in the dictionary.. if u dont even bother to look it means ud just prefer to stay in ignorance as it fulfillls a belief
@Harzeezreport
@Harzeezreport Жыл бұрын
@@nova77791 wiki is not a reliable source, speaking from research experience and working at libraries
@fanceym2770
@fanceym2770 3 ай бұрын
So wholesome 🤗 and the Nigerian lady made a lot of sense
@deborahwalakira2086
@deborahwalakira2086 Жыл бұрын
Guys to be honest I am so glad . I have been wanting an African and African American middle ground vid to come out and finally it has happened . Sending love from 🇺🇬 Uganda .
@dugebuwembo
@dugebuwembo Жыл бұрын
Hello Sis, another Ugandan 🇺🇬 here!
@mulungiesther4462
@mulungiesther4462 Жыл бұрын
❤🇺🇬
@deedee9835
@deedee9835 Жыл бұрын
Kataala and Nakataala😂
@cuupocabra1880
@cuupocabra1880 Жыл бұрын
I’m happy They been reading the comments because we all been asking!!!! :-)
@inesr.mcgrath8010
@inesr.mcgrath8010 Жыл бұрын
Coming from Cameroon, new in the us, facing tribalism, racism, and so much question that have been opened here... I thank you guys for this conversation. I actually needed it
@ib6019
@ib6019 Жыл бұрын
Hi namesake, lol. My name is Inès too.
@yasim
@yasim Жыл бұрын
It's sad to see black Americans hating Africans, while we welcome them to Africa 😢
@nwalden5744
@nwalden5744 Жыл бұрын
Africa has racism too
@popdavid-dd4lx
@popdavid-dd4lx Жыл бұрын
Get ready to hurt and not want to live, let alone live here. Be sure to go outside frequently
@chellynoob3215
@chellynoob3215 Жыл бұрын
me too 🇨🇲 🇨🇲!!
@SlavicAffairs
@SlavicAffairs 3 ай бұрын
Slavery is an ugly part of history, but it is necessary to note that it is not only a part of Afro-American history, but of world history. White Europeans were slaves to Arabs, Mongols and Turks long before they themselves enslaved others. It is also important to note that four of the five greatest abolitionists were white and that by the time slavery was abolished in the US in 1865 there were approximately 32 million of people living there (27 million of whites, 4 million ob blacks, < a million of others) and now there are 332 million of people. The ratio between fertility rates and the number of immigrants and their share of the total US population from 1860 to now indicates that most of the today's Americans aren't direct descendants of Civil War Era Americans. If I had to give a percentage, I would say that about 20% of Americans can be linked to that time.
@EvaMariaHein
@EvaMariaHein Ай бұрын
Is it correctly understood that an abolitionist is someone who wants to abolish slavery? How is it remarkable that four out of five abolitionist where White? When one view Black enslaved people as “less than”, why would one listen to what they think about their life?
@asiatic_african
@asiatic_african Ай бұрын
Nobody went through Chattle slavery like us
@richardwilliamsiv3778
@richardwilliamsiv3778 Ай бұрын
@@asiatic_africanthat isn’t true. Ancient Romans treated their slaves far worse and they were viewed as personal property. Where is the value in trying to out oppress others? Slavery is bad, it always has been. But it’s a terrible stain on all of human history, and experienced by every race as both slaves and slave owners. Not one race holds a monopoly on oppression.
@onielfrancis136
@onielfrancis136 Ай бұрын
Roman slavery was nowhere close to slavery in North America. Please do your research.
@garycook1376
@garycook1376 Ай бұрын
​@onielfrancis136 your joking north American slavery was the best choice compared to the areas or Roman's or mongols or even I the sugar fields of the Bahamas do your research and stop feeling sorry for yourself it's pathetic truly pathetic
@ashleighfeatherstone5428
@ashleighfeatherstone5428 5 ай бұрын
i loved this soooo much! I LOVE MY PPL .. ALL OF YOUUUUU
@TopS7
@TopS7 Жыл бұрын
As African it always irritates me when other Africans say AA's complain too much about racism in America not understanding the history of AA's and how it's still connected systemically to what's happening today when it cames to how they're unfairly treated disproportionately in incarceration, housing, poverty or even getting a loan from the bank. As a Somali I'm very thankful for AA's their voices matter. The sacrifices they made directly benefits us. What some don't understand is what happens in America directly affects the rest of us. The U.S government has huge amount of controll and leverage over the continent of Africa. Only the politician's and the leaders they choose will stay in power as they will use their unlimited resources to manipulate and instigate till they get the outcome they desire in Which is based solely on exploitation.
@TopS7
@TopS7 Жыл бұрын
@Blessing You're not seeing this thru clear eyes the wide spread inequality practices that was implemented against their ancestors for generations is the root cause and there is a direct link between poverty and crime.
@Jeff-xv6gk
@Jeff-xv6gk Жыл бұрын
@Blessing it’s part of the problem the reason why crime rates are high in black communities is the lack of resources they just did a study saying if black Americans receive reparations the crime rate will go down drastically!
@TopS7
@TopS7 Жыл бұрын
@@Jeff-xv6gk She is only seeing the smaller picture. There list of issue why things are way they are. There was governmental policy to undermine black people in American for a long time and when it comes to crime rates AA's are always under the scope black neighborhoods are Patrolled more racist judge's, profiling, stop and frisk etc ...
@ivyrainbitch
@ivyrainbitch Жыл бұрын
​@Blessing build upbyour home countries African booty scratcher
@anonymousbo0318
@anonymousbo0318 Жыл бұрын
@@TopS7You people never take accountability, you're clowns
@onye9618
@onye9618 Жыл бұрын
I rarely comment on KZfaq videos but I’m Nigerian and I want to commend Elizabeth because I feel like she explained how I feel perfectly. Especially when she said it’s easier for Africans to downplay racism because we don’t understand it. I mean we may understand it but you don’t fully understand something unless you have been through it. It’s easy to think “why’re you complaining when you literally have water?!” And not think about how everyone has struggles and Racism is a struggle black Africans have gone through. We have all suffered, no one’s suffering is less. It is all painful at the end of the day. I wouldn’t say I completely understand racism now but I am grateful for every black American who fought through resilience and effort to open doors for all black/African people because without them we would not have Africans in America at this point seeking opportunities.
@tylergriffin2499
@tylergriffin2499 Жыл бұрын
They didn’t fight for anything without them Africans would still come with America stop acting weak
@onye9618
@onye9618 Жыл бұрын
@@tylergriffin2499 I just stated my thoughts on it lmao. Don’t be so pained
@tylergriffin2499
@tylergriffin2499 Жыл бұрын
@@onye9618 why would I be pained ? And lord knows you no African stop the cap
@onye9618
@onye9618 Жыл бұрын
@@tylergriffin2499 you’re obviously pained because you’re here this early in the morning trying to invalidate my opinions. Why you think I’m not African is beyond me. I clearly stated that I am a Nigerian in the comment and I also just moved. Not you coming for me when you literally have the most English name ever. Tyler, abeg find peace with yourself and stop replying strangers comment. I wish you well
@TychoKingdom
@TychoKingdom Жыл бұрын
That idea is so small minded also some people in America do not have access to clean water. But going back to the first idea. We do not stop fighting for better just because others have it worse. That's makes absolutely no sense to say oh people have it worse than me so I'm not gonna fight to make life better for me and my children. Why settle for less than you deserve. I think you don't get it because Black Americans are Americans we have the American spirit the American culture. We want the American dream we want luxury we want excess we are willing to work hard so we can play hard and we don't settle. Being idealistic is very American.
@1Rab
@1Rab 4 ай бұрын
Beautiful conversation
@belgium4280
@belgium4280 23 күн бұрын
❤we need to practice this more often its uplifting and binding.. we could be the 1st race to come up with such beautiful stuff as always..
@yvonnekagondu7030
@yvonnekagondu7030 Жыл бұрын
The energy in the video feels calm, it's like the two groups of people feel safe around each other
@shoshonnie7796
@shoshonnie7796 Жыл бұрын
Safe? Why because they’re all black? Nonsense, you’re statistically more likely to be attacked by someone who looks like you. I’m black and i don’t see this imaginary racism these people are talking about, I’m more afraid of someone that looks like me VS somebody who doesn’t.
@deejay7339
@deejay7339 Жыл бұрын
No yt that's why. Perfect.
@imanahmed9754
@imanahmed9754 Жыл бұрын
🧬
@ItsMissChas5
@ItsMissChas5 Жыл бұрын
I can appreciate that.
@bouroboumambaye2270
@bouroboumambaye2270 Жыл бұрын
family moment
@KAIXOmusic
@KAIXOmusic Жыл бұрын
So proud to represent my community in this episode and those among us who may not be the first ones invited to the conversation. So much love for all the people involved in this and love my African fam
@chiblesstheraindowninafric9932
@chiblesstheraindowninafric9932 Жыл бұрын
Love you too Kai. I wish we would all come back together and be brothers and sisters like we used to be. 🖤🖤
@CeeJai_K
@CeeJai_K Жыл бұрын
Really, really enjoyed you Kai. Blessings to you.
@lungamadoda6992
@lungamadoda6992 Жыл бұрын
When you said your last name is king that brought tears in my eyes , I remember visiting the UK and there’s a large number of Caribbean people there and me coming from South Africa it was a shock to see how they all had slaves names and last names at that point I knew slavery was real😢
@Specialeena
@Specialeena Жыл бұрын
Your contributions were brilliant, and this cohort gives one hope for Black unity! Peace and blessings!
@SuperAH1985
@SuperAH1985 Жыл бұрын
👏👏 It was such a great episode and very interesting. Thank you for your insights! Great point about how race obsession is a white supremacy issue.
@riellecasey8082
@riellecasey8082 6 ай бұрын
Beautifully done and expressed!! This made me proud to look like both sides 😅
@yawaisnatural4344
@yawaisnatural4344 7 ай бұрын
When I was in Ghana, I would tell, a lot of the locals about slavery! They looked at me like I had two heads!?! They never knew about the conditions of a slave, or how we are treated today! Some even laughed!!! but I totally get why they don’t get it, because American slavery was never part of any of their discussions! Ever!
@KayKashi
@KayKashi 6 ай бұрын
Wow we thought that all Africans new what happened even people were stolen and brought to America
@KingofgraceSARA
@KingofgraceSARA 4 ай бұрын
I find that so hard to believe considering Ghana is slave coast.
@yawaisnatural4344
@yawaisnatural4344 4 ай бұрын
@@KingofgraceSARA 🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️🙄 do you actually think that the kids in school over there in Ghana are being told about how slaves retreated in America!?!?🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️🤦🏽‍♀️ and they’re damn sure not being told how their forefathers sold my ancestors in two slavery!?!?!!!!
@yawaisnatural4344
@yawaisnatural4344 4 ай бұрын
Or better yet go there yourself and talk to them! And watch them look at you like, you’re speaking 🇷🇺!!
@jesseross2641
@jesseross2641 Жыл бұрын
As a native from Aotearoa , I’d love to see “progressive Native Americans vs traditional Native American”
@MB-mg6ky
@MB-mg6ky Жыл бұрын
😂😭😭
@indiald3373
@indiald3373 Жыл бұрын
interesante @Jesse Ross
@Zeyede_Siyum
@Zeyede_Siyum Жыл бұрын
Where?
@1ZzSuenoszZ1
@1ZzSuenoszZ1 Жыл бұрын
@@MB-mg6ky I'm confused what's so funny?
@SunnyandNova
@SunnyandNova Жыл бұрын
You mean $5 Indians vs Traditional Mongoloid Native Americans? 😂😂 that would be so awesome
@charliesimmons9392
@charliesimmons9392 Жыл бұрын
Skipp’s point about supporting community vs supporting the system was something that I never had really thought of, very accurate point
@adorablebelle
@adorablebelle Жыл бұрын
Same! I never saw it this way before.
@kvval1
@kvval1 7 ай бұрын
Damn everyone was eating this debate up! Props to all, I'm so proud!
@BrandiO-ys4it
@BrandiO-ys4it 2 ай бұрын
This is much needed
@lethabomokgatle357
@lethabomokgatle357 Жыл бұрын
I’m so happy to have been part of this episode 😊
@ashley4764
@ashley4764 Жыл бұрын
you were amazing!
@bell-heir2934
@bell-heir2934 Жыл бұрын
Love your take on the American dream
@Ummkelechi
@Ummkelechi Жыл бұрын
You were amazing!! I actually loved your insight 😊
@ivyrainbitch
@ivyrainbitch Жыл бұрын
Are you planning on building up your home country?
@ivandrago782
@ivandrago782 Жыл бұрын
@@ivyrainbitch why you replying to every comment? get a job bro.
@itsmj3103
@itsmj3103 Жыл бұрын
I loved how Kai couldn't stop laughing at Elizabeth's jokes. You can always see him in the frame laughing when Elizabeth was being funny, he seems to appreciate her humor a lot lol 8:32 12:21
@Issaydee
@Issaydee Жыл бұрын
And 23:00 :)
@lungamadoda6992
@lungamadoda6992 Жыл бұрын
I caught that too😂
@williamchimezie7423
@williamchimezie7423 Жыл бұрын
Yea I saw that too Nigerians can be so funny without even trying
@asfanmarkmcgwire
@asfanmarkmcgwire Жыл бұрын
@@williamchimezie7423 facts haha
@benjaminbawa5273
@benjaminbawa5273 Жыл бұрын
@@williamchimezie7423 Facts.
@adesuwasdraft
@adesuwasdraft 7 ай бұрын
Such an awesome conversation
@rachaelmutheu3312
@rachaelmutheu3312 8 ай бұрын
I like how it's been understated throughout this conversation that if you don't know much about a certain history but choose to educate yourself on it, you'll comprehend it. Whether you are African and have personal experience with colonialism and neo-colonialism or African American and have your fair share of experience with the systematic prejudice from the White Supremist system. I'm Kenyan, and I've always wondered why growing up, the media made me feel inadequacies about my skin color, hair, and so on, and why I unknowingly longed for what I wasn't. Now, being on the anti-racist journey of educating myself on the past is helping me make sense of so much that I'd have otherwise been blind to, and the bigger role these things play in propagating the white supremist narrative. I'm even beginning to understand where so many inequalities in colonised countries stem from, and this helps me in unpacking how I want to serve and contribute in the world! To quote Neely Fuller Jr, “If you do not understand White Supremacy (Racism)-what it is, and how it works-everything else that you understand will only confuse you.”
@dagurushow3262
@dagurushow3262 Жыл бұрын
We need a Haitian and Dominican conversation like this
@Shahdae2001
@Shahdae2001 Жыл бұрын
I would pay to see that conversation
@fsoto2900
@fsoto2900 Жыл бұрын
No we dont…. Both of those countries are equally corrupt poorly ran by their own country people… enough said… you can say that about each country in the Caribbean… they are poorly ran by Godless children of the Devil.
@AmonRa1081
@AmonRa1081 Жыл бұрын
Now THAT would be a great conversation.
@regularpaul8142
@regularpaul8142 Жыл бұрын
Wooosh they not ready for that.
@franciscoaguzman1730
@franciscoaguzman1730 Жыл бұрын
Great idea
@sunflowerangelnctzen
@sunflowerangelnctzen Жыл бұрын
it would be really interesting if you could do a “North Africans vs Middle Easterns”. especially after all the heated conversations that surfaced during this Qatar world cup
@HB-ey2dk
@HB-ey2dk Жыл бұрын
That sounds like it could be very dangerous lol
@memeaw2537
@memeaw2537 Жыл бұрын
That sounds like it could be very interesting
@WbbBasketballfan222
@WbbBasketballfan222 Жыл бұрын
Yeah ok like the Arabs are going to take any accountability.
@belle6358
@belle6358 Жыл бұрын
@@zuki7776 there are some north africans who identify as only arab then there are north africans who just identify as amazigh and african. some arabs try to claim north africans especially during the FIFA World Cup as Morocco came close to the finals.
@belle6358
@belle6358 Жыл бұрын
@@zuki7776 yes you are correct. it’s just that some north africans do not like being called arab because they are amazigh.
@jasonrandolph9256
@jasonrandolph9256 Ай бұрын
Whoa all this hit hard great show hit home when proper says Richmond VA my home
@teatopic9399
@teatopic9399 6 ай бұрын
This is a touching topic
@iasminfelix4667
@iasminfelix4667 Жыл бұрын
As a black brazilian, I thank you guys for this open conversation, very clarifying
@sandman62100
@sandman62100 11 ай бұрын
Are you single?
@HundredManSlayer-
@HundredManSlayer- 10 ай бұрын
​@@sandman62100nah bro ur down terrible
@BoysKasa
@BoysKasa 10 ай бұрын
nunca, nunca
@MikeyLikesIt89
@MikeyLikesIt89 10 ай бұрын
Just saying hello to my sister from Brazil. I really think it’s long past time for a stronger connection between African Brazilians (I don’t know how you all refer to yourselves) and African American because I truly believe in we are the only two groups of African people who can understand each other’s struggles.
@NathaliLima1
@NathaliLima1 10 ай бұрын
@@MikeyLikesIt89 and afro-colombian too
@lajoieurmom6011
@lajoieurmom6011 Жыл бұрын
As an African person I really appreciate that they made this video. Bc I've always felt like Africans and African-Americans are really different in a lot of ways. Edit: I didn't mean to start a whole fight in the comment section, I just wanted to highlight my experience of living in the USA and seeing how different Africans and African-Americans are. Like their behavior and how they talk primarily 😭
@Beno_nolove
@Beno_nolove Жыл бұрын
We are
@reggiemiller6274
@reggiemiller6274 Жыл бұрын
We had to fight for our rights and while we were doing that the Africans waited until the smoke clear to come over and reap the benefits off the slave ancestors.
@Peach-hl3hz
@Peach-hl3hz Жыл бұрын
@@reggiemiller6274 ohh this 🙌🏽 they really would never understand our struggles!
@danifranc7011
@danifranc7011 Жыл бұрын
We are n that's ok
@isaiahprater8325
@isaiahprater8325 Жыл бұрын
Your comment is kinda cringe and why it's hard to truly come to a middle ground.
@HazeDazeHealing
@HazeDazeHealing 2 ай бұрын
I love all of you for being so brave and speaking!!!❤❤❤❤
@completeoke_01
@completeoke_01 6 ай бұрын
I love this. It's an awesome convo
@Moochy010
@Moochy010 Жыл бұрын
Finally! I'm glad they've had this discussion. However, I wish they would've included questions that pertain to the divide or tension between African American and Africans?
@TheNinjapancake14
@TheNinjapancake14 Жыл бұрын
I think that’s a big reason why this topic was requested so much (and Jubilee knows it)
@itumo2645
@itumo2645 Жыл бұрын
What questions?
@emilevanrensburg8094
@emilevanrensburg8094 Жыл бұрын
@@itumo2645 like I would've liked to hear whether Africans feel that its cultural appropriation when black people in America (or anywhere else) wear traditional African clothing. With this group, I don't think they would've, but I still would've like to hear it.
@PeterGriffin11
@PeterGriffin11 Жыл бұрын
@@emilevanrensburg8094 In my opinion it’s really weird how people get offended when someone wears clothing from a different culture. Usually no one gets offended when it comes to people from different cultures enjoying food, television, books, movies, videos or video games from other cultures or living in other parts of the world and being friends with or even marrying someone of a different culture but the moment you wear clothing from a different culture it’s going too far and it’s offensive.
@ivyrainbitch
@ivyrainbitch Жыл бұрын
Africans selling other Africans into slavery
@LexV423
@LexV423 Жыл бұрын
Finally! I've been waiting forever for this. I wish they included a question like "I feel misjudged by the other side." And more questions that are related to diaspora wars. That's where most of the discourse occurs.
@mamus.
@mamus. Жыл бұрын
I agree. I was expecting that too but this was great conversation
@deritmi_
@deritmi_ Жыл бұрын
me too! I was looking for questions like that as well!
@ChisomAdaora
@ChisomAdaora Жыл бұрын
I think most of the diaspora wars comes from not understanding the topics that were discussed in the video. Each side thinks the other has it better when in reality both groups have been oppressed. The Nigerian and Cameroonian rep kind of touched on it when they were talking about the resources that African Americans have such as running water etc. 8:40
@LexV423
@LexV423 Жыл бұрын
@fatimayusuf4296 I'm African-American and my boyfriend is from Nigeria. So I don't want to see African-Americans and Africans fight. However my boyfriend and I have thoroughly talked about discourse throughout Africa and the African diaspora and have both gotten a better understanding of the other side. I wished the things that cause more discourse would have been discussed because I think we all need to have better understanding of each other.
@amberawchild
@amberawchild Жыл бұрын
We don’t interact with each other enough for there to be mistreatment. We tend to stay separate and judge each other based on here-say.
@Cici-st2yz
@Cici-st2yz 7 ай бұрын
I thought it was interesting that those from Africa were aware of those in America and their history. I didn't hear from the African Americans as much understanding towards the struggles and experiences of those living/from Africa. It would've been nice to hear their knowledge and understanding of others struggles/experiences as well.
@dontaskdonttell_
@dontaskdonttell_ 6 ай бұрын
they don’t care. it’s all about ME ME MEEEEEEE
@Cici-st2yz
@Cici-st2yz 6 ай бұрын
@@dontaskdonttell_ why is that? Everyone has a story and it should be heard, not just one community.
@akeillewis7515
@akeillewis7515 3 ай бұрын
More please.. Awesome stuff!
@a4l4l
@a4l4l Жыл бұрын
Thanks for letting me be apart of this episode Jubilee!
@DaddyM7MD
@DaddyM7MD Жыл бұрын
Lance, hi.
@CGR1000.
@CGR1000. Жыл бұрын
I respect and agreed with what you had to say💯
@shakiyagotdreams2299
@shakiyagotdreams2299 Жыл бұрын
U did so well 🎉
@cadeolsen59
@cadeolsen59 Жыл бұрын
Heyy
@a4l4l
@a4l4l Жыл бұрын
@@DaddyM7MD hi
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