Made famous by a french painter, made infamous by a austrian/german painter 🤔

"Germania wont remember us"-the romans

The Roman: Hey bud how’s going 🙋🏻‍♂️ Nazi: Write that down write that down!

So basically Italians talking with their hands got confused with a salute. Interesting

It's true that that exact motion comes from David but it became popular within Italian culture because of the classic Italian film Cabiria (1914). A video on that film would be interesting considering it is one of the first Roman historical epics.

Hail Caesar!

" You don't get it, i'm Roman! "

0:20 For those who don't know what this painting is about, it represents the oath of the three Horatii brothers, who, during the reign of Tullus Hostilius, decided to end once and for all the never-ending conflicts between Rome and Alba Longa through a direct confrontation against the three brothers of a family from the enemy city. There is in fact a 1961 film about this conflict called "Duel of Champions", which was directed by the famous Terence Fisher (known for directing the first James Bond films).

It was also used to pledge allegiance to the US flag before WWII

I'd love to use this greeting but I am from Germany :(

Shame that one guy had to ruin it for everybody

It sucks that you can’t use it now because well…

Also that statue of Augustus at the end used to be holding what some surmise was a spear or laurel branch, so he's not doing any kind of salutations whatsoever.

“It was made famous by a french painter” Me:there is another

Americans used to do the Bellamy salute when pledging allegiance to the American flag. After or during the WW2 though, they changed it.

I think the Romans just make the 🤌🤌🤌 gesture as salute.

A good artist sees the world from a different perspective

does the roman salute 1 seconds later: *DEATH SENTENCE*

Man all the roman emperors would be like "why is the Germanic guy doing so stiff, relax my dude"

The Roman Salute was already used by the military in several countries much before fascism was created.

The Roman salute is found in many Roman monuments

I do the Roman salute!

gotta love how Germany basically ruins everything 💀

Why you forgot that French greeted like this too until conquered by Germans

I've seen the straight arm salute used as a worship gesture in ancient Greek art.

But in many cases, historians of that time did not record many things simply because they were too "common" that they did not feel the need to mention them in their writtings ......

It always comes back to the Romans, doesn't it?

There’s an American salute that’s similar, called the Bellamy salute, but it’s falling out of favor. It’s supposed to be used when you’re not wearing a cover.

"Various Nationalist movements" Historical understatement of the year lol

When thinking about how so may customs have changed over as little as decades, I find it amazing that people have basically been using the *same gesture* (a raised open hand) to covey greetings for thousands of years.

historical or not, the salute is cool af

New favorite Romaboo content creator.

I always greet my white friends like this and they always play along lmao

The best gesture made with more than one finger

I wish so badly that I had a time machine, and I could have seen the Roman ways for myself. I'd kill to see the Coliseum in ancient days or Caesar during a battle.

There are many paintings where Napoleon salutes this way "in reference to the Roman Empire" now idk who to believe🤔

“ Hey I’ve seen this one “

They do it in some Indian forces🤙👌

It seems to be a universal sign for "hail" rather than a salute.

„This exact gesture is not featured in any of the ancient Roman sources“ 10 seconds later: Trajan‘s column depicts Roman soldiers aclaiming the emperor with this exact gesture What?

One day the painter will escape his cloak of hatred that covers him. Pragmatic people of the future will see.

Apparently our U.S. pledge of allegiance included this salute until WWII ruined it for everybody

It sometimes bothers me how much of human history we don’t really know for a fact occurred. A lot of history is made up or educated guesses based on other information. If time machines were real, I would love to go back in time and clear stuff up, I think we’d all be so surprised by what actually happened

It's called the salutatio iberica, and it from Iberia.

I wouldn't put it past the Romans to have a similar salute where they show the palm of their hand to the person they're greeting. It's a natural gesture and would serve as a natural ancestor to the modern Roman Salute. I think there's also the fact a few surviving documents make mention that the only time a Soldier would salute a thin-striped Tribune is when the sun is in his eyes. Assuming I'm not talking out of my ass, the fact we know Romans had a salute that would require you to put your hand in front of your face means it isn't a stretch to assume the Roman Salute is at least partly accurate or faithful.

I’m obsessed with Rome. I watched “Caligula” on the BBC when I was just 10 years old, in 1976 and at least once a year I revisit the entire box set of “I Claudius.” Me thinks,a Roman holiday is in my future.🔮

Hitler got that salute from the original way Americans saluted the flag. It was called the Bellamy Salute. The man who wrote the pledge of allegiance, Francis Bellamy, came up with the salute. You started with your hand over your heart when you said, “I pledge allegiance”. You then stretched your hand out, either overhand or underhand when you said, “to the flag” . And you left it outstretched for the rest of the pledge. Francis Bellamy was a Socialist. The SS were called “Socialist” even though they were really fascist. Hitler stole a lot of ideas from the American Socialist Party. In 1946, a law was passed forbidding the Bellamy Salute. Because it had become identified with the Nazi Sig Heil. My mom is 88 and remembers doing the Bellamy Salute before and during WWII. And she remembers the gestures of the pledge being changed after WWII.

I remember having an argument with a guy about this topic and he was adamant that it was a real thing

Fun Fact: David was Napoleon's personal potrait

It is the Roman Salute! Ave ✋🏻

This salut also existed in American schools from the 1890s up until WW2 It was known as the Bellamy Salut

bro I did the roman salute in that exact way what the heck. I didn't know they hit their chest. I just did it because it seemed more powerful for some reason

>not mentioned in sources or iconography >is depicted on Trajan Column Ok.

The origin of this salute was from the iberians (ancient spanish and portuguese) and the roman empire adopted as the oficial salute.

Roman salute with arm and digits outstretched is depicted as an engraving on Trajan's column.

I wonder if anyone saluted, especially on the presence of the emperor because the way its depicted in films its a similar gesture to drawing a sword. I actually think in the presence of authority you were probably meant to bow your head and hands stayed firmly at your side and no sudden movements. Or just somewhere where they they can be seen. When declaring someone emperor or God that probably had the hand gesture. I don't think we have any sources of salutes in any ancient texts from any kingdom or empire....

It’s a badass salute

There Is a Roman statue that does that at Ercolano

LOL 👁️👃👁️🙏 Italian here btw... Let's make THE HAND GREAT AGAIN !

Figures, another painter is the reason we got the thumbs up and thumbs down thing backwards.

NatSocs are gonna be coping now

I wish this salut was acceptable again

Throughout most of history: A symbol of brotherhood and peace. Some barbarian with a mustache: I'm about to ruin this things credibility

It was also used in America during the Pledge of Allegiance as the Bellamy Salute

As a German, I love this greeting.🙋🏼‍♂️🇩🇪

Well, Hitler was trying to rebuild Roman empire which Bible says will never happen. 'As clay do not mix with iron' means divided kingdoms will never reunited. Napoleon was the closest to success but didn't succeed.

The salute is actually from Spain and is called the Hispanic Salute

I remember my boys and I used to use Roman salute to greet each other back in high school

Just like the swastika, Hitler didn't even the logo itself

my friends and i greet each other with this salute when we just meet up to hang, though less how the Nazis do it and more with a bent elbow and forward-facing hand, more Italian like. We do it because like 8 years ago or something a few of us really liked Fascism and some of us liked Rome so we all liked the salute as a greeting. It was usually accompanied by "Hail!" but we dropped that part since we aren't Fascists anymore. We still use the hand gesture as an almost subconscious thing. We've had conversations about why we still do it, and we've reached the conclusion that it just became a part of our friendgroup's culture, along with some other cool stuff from that time period such as an almost sacred association we had with drinking soda, especially together. Friendgroup's lost a lot of our old traditions these days. Half of them don't even like me anymore. I only still talk to 2 of them, 1 of whom is off in the marines and the other wasn't there during the old days but still greets with the salute as we still fervently did it when he joined us. But him and i never really do it anymore since he has a car now, and we no longer walk up to each other and therefore can't throw up the salute as we approach. One could argue that it's good, maybe, that it's a dying tradition in my group. I disagree. It doesn't mean Fascism or Rome to us anymore. it hasn't for years. it means comradery and bond to us, but just like the salute, we lost out bond too it seems...

Thank you for your fascinating video 🏆🌹It was beautiful.

'Theres no record of this' Proceeds to show statues and friezes with the same pose...

I always greet my friends this way, since I'm a huge (especially roman) history nerd. Some of them play along, having fun. The rest, those woke morons are not in my circle anymore. 😇

Lodi Lombardia italy, Glorie a Dio, SPQR 1870.

it is literally just a naturally powerful hand gesture for leadership and orating.

"I loved living in ancient Rome" 👴🏻

You remember the "Pledge of allegiance" of the US? It started out with one's right hand over the heart, and as you said "...and to the Republic..." you did the "Roman salute" for the rest of it. That stopped sometime during the 1930s due to reasons, even though the US had very strict racial laws, and anti-Semitism was everywhere.

The Roman Salute: "Man, Hitler just ruins everything!" The Hindu Swastika: "First time?"

As always, a certain Austrian painter ruined this

🙋‍♂️

Me and the boys in the back of the class

The Most chadest and based people used IT Like a painter

The roman salute is the most powerful salute to ever exist. It matters little if it isn't found in history, the motion itself conveys far more weight than any other salute.

Next video: Did the Romans live in Rome? 🤔

Before the Europeans used it, it was used in the US at the pledge of allegiance from 1892 to 1942 known as the Bellamy Salute. It started with the hand outstretched toward the flag, palm down, and ended with the palm up.

Yes, they did

We have seen this salute in artworks that were created at the time.. so yes they actually do it, regardless of what the Nationalist Socialists of Germany did. There’s no need to play it down. One emulated the other. It happens all the time.

I tried to teach my toddler nephew the Roman salute. As soon as I saw what it looked like he was saluting, I had to get him to stop before my big sister killed me

This salute in fact was used by Illyrians for god of the sun

the Roman gladiators did it during the circus games organized by the senators, for example in the theater of Capua

when I was young I thought that gesture is a man pretending to fly like superman

Usually the Roman salute is clinched fist to chest only.

Fascists cant even invent their own salutes smh

I find it quite natural to the point of actively avoiding it sometimes.

Its a great salute to meet friends like hello, but that mustache guy ruining for everyone

didnt know my Argentinian grandpa served in the roman legion

This is why Hitler took this salute for the Nazis. He wanted something that looked cool and distinguished.

I am glad that I saw this video!

Well I certainly throw roman salutes from time to time.

You may have just ruend a lot of roman tv shows and movies für me