"Tank diff" and it's a game of OW where you end up winning OW players can never be happy

As a tank player, damn near every game is a "tank diff" regardless of how you play. It's honestly the most frustrating thing about the role imo. The worst is when it comes from your Mercy / Lucio or Mercy / Lifeweaver backline

this sigma played incredibly well for a gold 4 player, they will climb tremendously, probably into mid to high plat

Hey Emongg, Thank you for reviewing my VOD. It's good to know that the things I thought I was doing right were the right things. It's really frustrating for me as a returning player since I often feel like I should defer to my teammates as I usually assume (for better or worse) that they have more knowledge than me about the game that has been out for 7 years since I stopped playing (about a month before Orisa was added), so when my body is telling me I'm doing the right things but other people are saying no it makes me start overthinking and playing worse since I feel like now I have to do something big and splashy to get it back on track. Bit of tangent but in high school my English teacher, senior year, taught us the "four stages of competence" 1. Unconscious Incompetence - (Not knowing you don't know) -> When you first learn about something. 2. Conscious Incompetence - (Knowing you don't know) -> Realizing you don't know much after beginning to learn/starting to build the instincts needed 3. Unconscious Competence - (Knowing you know) -> Reaching a point where your instincts and gut are doing the right things and you can verbalize why its the right thing to do. 4. Conscious Competence - (Not knowing you know) -> Reaching a point where you just start doing the right things without thinking about it. I like to refer back to them when gauging where I am in understanding a large topic like how to play a role in Overwatch. Of course you can always fall onto the wrong side of the bell curve or into the Dunning-Kruger effect with it. I feel like I'm somewhere between 2 and 3 where I do stuff like throw the shield behind someone to block healing and follow up or rocking the Doomfist in his block etc... where I know I should do those things but don't always know when its the right time to do those things, either being late or early or missing it entirely. So it's good to be told by someone who can comfortably sit in stage 4 that you're doing the right things and where to work on improving to hopefully reach that level in the future. I'd also throw in that I much prefer tanking in OW2 to OW1 as I always ended up being the Rein that just had to sit in the choke or on cart with shield up for the whole game and that was boring as heck.

So that junk/sombra/ pharah just sucked ass and tried to blame the tank for all their deaths by being out of position. Happens every time

The tank blame is crazy, i would say he is the best player in that team.

Imagine coming back to this game after SEVEN YEARS; holy shit it's changed

i get "tank diff" and "support diff" in 90% of my games and honestly i swear most of the time the real issue is the dps

Damn, that "Alright so!" was _aggressive!_

I was the soldier. I’m like 90% sure this game happened before I unlocked comms. As you can probably tell I am a big noob. I’m in plat now so I think I’m starting to figure things out, but ow is so chaotic I definitely get lost sometimes and don’t know what to do.

This poor Sigma and Mercy, they are doing what they can, but sometimes it's just so reliant on your dps not int'ing. Brutal to watch.

I went 39-1 while doing 50% of the teams damage with the entire enemy team swapping hard counters on me. We lost and I got the "Tank Diff" with my endorsement dropping after the game (reported for throwing) I just can't with this game...

Honestly the tank and his supports carried the sorry DPS players

The sigma here did really well! I could easily see them being plat or even diamond with play like this, especially if they listen to the feedback One thing I wanna mention (since Emongg mentioned all the important things) is that you could be a little more aware of Junkrat's trap. As a junkrat player it can be an *extremely* easy kill, even on a tank, if I'm sitting in the right spot when someone gets trapped, so just making sure that you see the little teeth sticking out of the ground is a great way to lower Junkrat's value a ton

I dropped 50 on reinhardt with like 4 or 5 deaths, best game ever. Literally the next game, I got "tank diff" and a playstation message asking how many brain cells I have. The duality of tank

i would say probably 4/5 times the problem on a team is usually the dps. but man they dont wanna hear it and blame literally anyone else

As a support main that's picking up and really liking Sigma, this guy was cookin'. Sure, he wasn't playing PERFECT, but considering they're shakin' off SEVEN YEARS worth of rust with how much has changed and still doin' this well, that Junkrat was on some pretty good stuff if he thought this Sigma was a problem.

As dps I want this tank lol

The "tank diff" from people who have barely even touched the role is so real. The amount of times i've heard that, only to check their profile and see i've got more hours in a single tank hero than they have in the entire game astounds me.

I feel like the "Tank Diff" was probably towards the enemy tank

Tank diff is the new support diff, its usually from a player with a negative K/D who fed the whole game.

would love to see you go back and do a recap of the junkrat's gameplay throughout that match.

Maybe after being gone so long they may not have remembered that most teammates in lower ranks are toxic.

6:28 Funny that this happened to me. I was playing on Havana and I figured out that I have a strange issue with lag where it only happens at the start of a round, but usually ends before the game actually starts. Not this game. I had 1 frame/second for 30 seconds at the start of the game (0 damage the whole time) and my lucio started flaming me and saying they hated me. I appologized, they just said "No." I was losing it. The last round, I got like 5 DVA Bombs in the span of like, 4 minutes (each with a Double Kill), without dying and holding the point at the first spawn for that long. They were flaming me during that. We ended up losing. Not to say I didn't deserve SOME anger towards me, but it was ridiculous. (Wow, I ended up on a rant, didn't I? My bad.)

I love how Ana consistently gave him nano

that aim was really good and i didnt saw a tank diff there

Humorously, a lot of the strength of the opposing tank came from getting charged up so often, which I would wager mostly came from the Junk/Phar splash damage. Yes, Sig charged it a lot too, its expected from his primary fire, but at least they interrupted a ton of Doom's blocks to compensate.

If the Sigma player see's this dont listen to people who did not que your role or just outright be insulting. Focus on your game brother from one tank main to another. (Also I had a game where we gor rolled and I had the most elims/dmg and the Solider player who constantly ran in a straight line and went 2/10 calls me a bad a tank 🥹)

How is this guy gold, if he plays often like this he'll make it to diamond sooner than later.

Recently watched a video from Flats where we spectate a dmg hero and they accuse the tank is the problem yet the tank is the GOAT. Now seeing where the another dps blaming the tank but from what we see, it’s more the dps is diff and tank is the GOAT

Dude that one part where he ulted the Kiri and got nanoed and got the Junkrat, the only reason he lost that fight was because his team died and wasn’t with him or made their own bad decisions or positions. This is why I focus on my gameplay in reference to others. How could I position myself better. What could I have done.

This new mid season patch is now gonna mean that tank diff is the only way to win.

My least favourite thing about calling diffs in general is that many people will call it based off of stats. The obvious problem with this is that 9 times out of 10, the winning team will have better stats, and they don't necessarily reflect the individuals performance.

YES more YUPROCKS

If anything the tank you’re reviewing of the play of was the better tank 🤷‍♂️ made other tank swap on both attack and defend and made some huge plays at important times. WP GG

I would check the stats of the players for this game as well as future games as it does give more insight even if said stats don't normally matter😊

Even a Moira can go for the flank and try to take out atleast one healer or dps then dip. Stir up some chaos and draw their attention

This submitter's ingame name is amazing.

ALRIGHT SO ! 🗣️

it's funny that either a dps or support would say it's a "Tank diff" despite the fact like what was said, that they don't play Tank and "somehow know". Yet Getting into position as a Tank is harder(varying) compared to either a support or some dps roles getting into position to help create pressure on the other team and in turn alieviate pressure on your side. sig played pretty decently, the Junkrat getting picked off it happens ik, but they could've been in a better position to spam the choke on the off angle from defense to be a nuiscence. generally i play rein on eichenwalde, cause it makes me curious with the match ups.

That's crazy He's really dood. What's missing is follow up from his team.

I have no idea what his team needed

I love ur vid

Even when my team gets stomped and clearly someone did bad but tried I wont say anything people have bad games seeing tank, dps, sup diff is always annoying.

So, from seeing this Sig play I realized that 1. I also play like him but right now I am trying to take up space as a tank but can't survive much because my teammates are all bunched up at the point 2. Sig is really good against almost all of the tanks, dps and supports as well. I mean I have found that many times I would go against supports as Sig and kill them off and probably not die (Yes probably. Many times I will die instantly). The only characters that can do something against him are, probably sombra, pharah (the way she is right now) and Junker Queen (Yeah I can't play against a good junker queen for some reason) and Winston too now

This Sigma was great! He was the cornerstone of the team and lead them to success! I pray sewer rat / pigeon rat didn't dishearten this guy too much because the game needs more tank players like this one.

if someone is typing telling you that you're bad you can say similar about them you cant really type an shoot at the same time.

I think this guy should work on hitting yep rocks more regularly

I think they did amazing for sigma ❤

It’s always the negative K/D attackers that start the trash talk. They are playing poorly, having a bad time, and really need someone to blame their poor performances on.

This makes me so sad cause this tank is GOOD for metal ranks and for not having played for seven years??? I'd love to heal for this Sig any day

Sigma did great, we all saw that but gotta say the supports were great too. Mercy was clutch at times.

bros mechanics are really good for gold

What does diff mean? New to overwatch but I see it a lot

This is gold? No way

Nah that's some plat plays right there. All that takes is a little fine tuning and he'd be up in probably diamond by next week.

oh so another game that the tank can't even play so do speak because the dps cannot kill a thing i have seen that happend way to much

I think dps players should be chatbanned until they go above 2.0 K/D

This Sigma is nasty, wtf?

Also as someone who admittedly allows the tilt to overcome me when I shouldn’t I have no issue flaming when appropriate but in this instance I genuinely don’t get what this player did wrong

The only time i ever tell my tank to do is, "play cover", " Your health is low" or if he play ramatra and low health, "block and play cover", because i just want them to get away from dps debuff and allow me and other supp to heal them at least half before they going in back again, Because most of the tank i meet always on dps debuff the whole time and not able to heal properly and then fall down, and scream HEALLL!???, when i literally spam all my resources on the tank Thats the only time i said something to tank, other than that, just usual comm

I love the people that get so mad. Like their SR is going to be the key factor in getting that big promotion. 95% of players are not playing OW2 to support their life. Video games are recreational. Enjoy the good moments, and take the bad, as they wont have any impact on your life.

I have a BIG FEELING HES WATCHING THE GAMEPLAY FROM THE ENEMY PROSPECTIVE AND ITS ACTUALLY THE DOOMFIST WHO SENT IN THE GAMEPLAY BUT HE LIKED THE SIGMA BETTER AND FOR ALL WE KNOW THATS HOW IT WORKS WITH EVERY VIDEO

wish i had this guy as my tank, most plat tanks think they’re good at the game now so they 1v5 their back line never come back to the team and die, so wp sig