Ny rifle opener last Saturday. I shot a big fat doe with the 350L. She died on the way to the dirt. 180 grain Winnies were $19. Make no mistake, this is not just a round for straight wall states it’s an amazingly effective load for all eastern style farm and wood lot hunting and in fact useful countrywide.
@Tactisloth4 жыл бұрын
Anyone in Ohio who is confused on .350Legend's legality. Its 100% legal, I've even confirmed with ODNR.
@tyler16712 жыл бұрын
I hunt with a 30 06 thought It was neat they let yalll use rifles without a permit like I got
@ryanking45062 жыл бұрын
It’s also on the list of straight wall rifles that can be used in ohio that’s why I went with it
@HappentoThings4 жыл бұрын
Great video! This is the most comprehensive summary of the 350 Legend that I've seen. Earned my subscription! Looking forward to the rest of the videos.
@SocialRegressive4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Jason! Tests coming soon...
@justincavinder55044 жыл бұрын
For my straight walled cartridge, caliber choice. I believe you have me sold on the .350 Legend
@matthewvassoff57363 ай бұрын
If you aint got one in yer closet, you aint bought and you aint 'sold' on anything
@gerhardtcustomknives4 жыл бұрын
just run .358 through a sizing die, thats what i do, size to .356, shoots fine
@trevorfout47594 жыл бұрын
No issues with deforming jackets?
@gerhardtcustomknives4 жыл бұрын
@@trevorfout4759 they have thick jackets and it's only shrinking it 2 thousandths
@SocialRegressive4 жыл бұрын
Great idea.
@EagleEyeShooting4 жыл бұрын
Hey brother! Sizing fmj bullets is not advised from the manufacturer as possible separation from the jacket and lead core. Definitely posses a risk in a canned gun. Starline brass purposely made their brass 1 thousandths thinner for 357/358
@gerhardtcustomknives4 жыл бұрын
@@EagleEyeShooting bullets i was using are bonded, pretty unlikely to separate just going .002 smaller
@jimmyruger75294 жыл бұрын
First day I have heard this channel !! Wow ! Loads of Knowledge, thank you , Merry Christmas from an Ohio Ruger Collector
@lilwoody47894 жыл бұрын
I've been loading 357 pistol bullets for my model 8 and 336 35 Remington for a decade now. In that time I have been salivating to get a 35 R.E.M. barrel and bolt head made for a short action Stoner rifle. This year I think is the year. With 158 jfps I'm getting 2500 fps out of the Mod 8. With no cycling issues in that crazy Browning action and minute of deer accuracy
@HerkCC4 жыл бұрын
I've been fantasizing about .35 Remington in an AR platform. Please tell me someone will release an upper assembly!
@lilwoody47894 жыл бұрын
In the 15 platform it would be hand load only. In the 10 the rifle rounds would work
@lilwoody47894 жыл бұрын
Phillip Saunders my son found a shop that does the custom barrels for just about any caliber you ask for.
@MrCamoman124 жыл бұрын
lil woody link?
@lilwoody47894 жыл бұрын
Rara Neagra I'll type slowly. Loaded With 158 Grain Hornady XTP Pistol Bullets The OAL is Less Than 2.250 Inches. Loaded to the cantilur with 140 grain FTX Hornady they are shorter than that.
@northwind95054 жыл бұрын
You did a great job! So clear and up front. Good charts. Yes, everyone has their favorites that fits there needs.
@medic79893 жыл бұрын
The most informative with least amount of blathering about how this cartridge is not as good as so and so cartridge. Good video. I bought a .350 complete upper and added it to a build lower. Have not hunted with it but for hitting paper and metal gongs, I like what I have seen so far. Waiting for an opportunity to over power a feral hog with this round.
@davesolo3781 Жыл бұрын
A warning statement for anyone who wants to shoot 350 legend in a Ar15. It comes with alot of reliability problems. If you can legally buy a 300 blackout for hunting go with blackout over 350 legend. Or 450 bushmaster if you need straight wall cartridge
@garywinders37073 жыл бұрын
Excellent review. Articulate and fact filled. Great job.
@eddiejennejr43423 жыл бұрын
I have a Bear Creek Arsenal 350 legend upper assembly. Made it to an Aero Precision Lower with a rise armament trigger. It is amazing. Love that rifle and cartridge. It devastates Texas feral hogs.
@SocialRegressive3 жыл бұрын
I keep waiting for another hog hunt. Gotta make one happen.
@archangel200314 жыл бұрын
Buy the cheap ammo and reload your saved brass for hunting for cheap. The reason they did not go to .358 is that Winchester wanted a monopoly on the hunting bullets.
@SocialRegressive4 жыл бұрын
I would keep an eye on the cheap brass. Some of the early lots have had inconsistent case lengths, which can be a big deal with this cartridge. As long as it's in spec, though, heck yeah!
@LS-oh8kv3 жыл бұрын
The .358 caliber bullets are all too strong for the relatively low velocities the legend shoots, you will not get proper expansion in those bullets. It kinda sucks, but it at least has good reasoning.
@rexoliver77803 жыл бұрын
When I see the .350 Legend makes me think of the old 350 Win Self Load round.Also looks like an enlarged .30 Carbine round-bigger and more powerful,of course.Just similar cartridge shape.
@PineyJustice2 жыл бұрын
That's pretty much exactly what it is, super 30 carbine, or mega 357 magnum. The real benefit is that it functions awesome out of standard ar mags.
@plumcrazypreston2797 Жыл бұрын
This younger man hosting this video has a creepy look of death in his wide serious eyes. The black facial hair enhances the spine-chill factor. This man could easily pass for an Army drill sergeant or a Marine DI with a shaving profile. This looks like a man not to make enemies of.
@kennethhowe3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the very informative video! The limited firearm zone in Michigan changed and now I have to consider something else to use.
@SocialRegressive3 жыл бұрын
You have a few good options that'll get the job done.
@TrippyWheelz4 жыл бұрын
I am in Texas and just finished a AR build in 350 legend for hogs. I am always trying new calibers on the piggy’s. I have been happy with accuracy at 100-150. Been producing consistent 1” 1/4 groups. It’s a pretty sweet little round but I can see why people hunting in the restricted states haven’t transitioned yet.
@SocialRegressive4 жыл бұрын
Not bad at all. I didn't expect that much accuracy from this cartridge, but so far mine is printing much like yours. Happy Hunting, Tommy!
@danhughes3626 Жыл бұрын
There are so many stories drop them or they lose them...no blood trails... hmmmm
@OhioCruffler4 жыл бұрын
The balance between weight and operating velocity is a good reason to put this out in .357. The heavier .358 bullets will not perform at the velocities this cartridge can manage.
@OhioCruffler4 жыл бұрын
@@chaist94 That would do it.
@TheRealSlowhand4 жыл бұрын
What an excellent and very thorough video presentation... Thank you!!!
@DB.KOOPER4 жыл бұрын
I get the legality aspect and I like seeing things like this developed to further utilize the AR platform. For me however, not having the need has me completely addicted to 6.5 Grendel and your chart shows why it's such a great cartridge. Still. I'm starting to come around on .350 legend more and more. It's a neat idea and I love that it still uses the 5.56 BCG.
@Tactisloth4 жыл бұрын
.350 Legend has a lot going for it, at least in states like mine that require straight wall cartridges for deer. I just used it on a buck during gun season at about 100m and can attest to its effectiveness. If I had a choice of bottlenecks, however, I'd probably use my .308, .300blk, or build a 6.5Grendel.
@ds68724 жыл бұрын
My son has taken several deer with my 6.5 grendel. In my opinion it's the best whitetail cartridge that will fit on an AR15. On top of that wolf makes cheap steel case grendel for plinking.
@johnmyers39304 жыл бұрын
One of my local gun shops caries a cheap plinking 6.5G ammo called Barnaul or $6 a box
@dustinconsley19554 жыл бұрын
Winchester and Hornady both have bullets available for reloaders, good luck finding them in stock for a while
@STB-jh7od4 жыл бұрын
I wonder if this round would do well in a shorter-barrel, a carbine/AR pistol with this round would be awesome.
@SocialRegressive4 жыл бұрын
I suspect you're right. A pistol model would be crazy fun at the range.
@STB-jh7od4 жыл бұрын
@@chaist94 I completely forgot about that. Thanks.
@STB-jh7od4 жыл бұрын
@@chaist94 My dad actually used a 30-30 for deer, I just wondered about new cartridge and loading. I remember how 5.56 wasn't very good in short barreled weapons back in the day.
@immikeurnot4 жыл бұрын
I'm also wondering about heavier bullets in a subsonic load. Ultimate version of the .300 Blackout?? Personally, I was a bit upset when this caliber came out, because it was my first thought when I held a .300 Blackout round in my hand.
@immikeurnot4 жыл бұрын
@@chaist94 It's about piston area, not expansion volume.
@smokepeddler4 жыл бұрын
Probably my favorite all purpose rifle cartridge.
@billytube3254 жыл бұрын
The 9mm critical duty 135 gr round would make an excellent hunting round at 2000+ fps. The round was designed with limited expansion out of a pistol, so you should have a great expansion window.
@SocialRegressive4 жыл бұрын
I wish Hornady would sell the squish-tip bullets for reloading. I have some XTPs I'll try, but I'd sure like that flat nose.
@Gieszkanne2 жыл бұрын
I dont think so. 135gr will be around 2500fps and the bullet wasnt designed for that. It will explode in the first inches and would lack in penetration.
@mopesrus72663 жыл бұрын
I dozed off while you were sitting there droning on. I woke up and you were still sitting there droning on. Thanks for the nap time. As for the video, you didn't sell me on the ideo of investing in a 350L.
@SocialRegressive3 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gbR6YNxpyczRhIE.html
@calebnation6155 Жыл бұрын
I wanted to find an AR cartridge that would be a little better out of a shorter barrel for range fun & home defense, and landed on 350 legend. I also have started hand loading and landed on a super cheap 125gr .357” FMJ over 18gr of h110 for a cheap range round. Haven’t worked on a hunting load yet, but I have some 140gr FTX bullets I’d like to use for that.
@SocialRegressive Жыл бұрын
Great idea. I've had my eye on the FTX bullets, too.
@calebnation6155 Жыл бұрын
@@SocialRegressive they’re designed for a .357 mag rifle so the velocity I get from a 10.5” AR in 350 legend should be low enough to have expansion (the box says muzzle velocity is recommended between 800 and 2000fps, I should be at 1900-2100 from my 10.5” at higher loads, so I figure middle of the road load and it’ll be good
@smegleydophercam28394 жыл бұрын
There’s a fair selection of.358 bullets that you can effectively swage down to .356 Lee #90046, it’s for cast bullets but a similar .318” one works fantastically taking .323” diameter jacketeds down.
@lshortforrer4 жыл бұрын
Man thanks for the detailed explanation! Really good information.
@joelclark21304 жыл бұрын
Love your video. Very informative. Thank you for the great information, loved your pistol hunting bench I have one just like it. I'm waiting for the Tikka rifle to come out in 350 Legend in tactical mode or model
@larryalexander48334 жыл бұрын
As far as the 358 bullets . I know a fellow that sized down some speer hot core bullets. Has worked quite well so far.
@tythomps4 жыл бұрын
It's funny how something number based like velocity has become a subjective term now. I guess anyone can say the 350 Legend is "Fastest" for straight walled cartridges at 2100 fps and just ignore the 375 Winchester ever existed.
@dctmech2 жыл бұрын
Not to mention the original 444 marlin factory load fired a 240 grainer at 2400 fps. Winchester's marketing BS.
@michiganlifepreppers5404 жыл бұрын
I believe the idea and grandfather of this cartridge is the old .351 Winchester. It was the very best “in-between” round of its time. Not full rifle power but more power than a pistol. The .351 Winchester was well known and widely used by civilians and law enforcement right up until WW2 and a little thereafter. I wish they’d bring it back, but this will do for the time being lol.
@Roy-tp2iy Жыл бұрын
You nailed it 351 was amazing sold my win because of lack of brass 357 maxiam split .the legend relives
@jeremyshaffer45794 жыл бұрын
Wilson combat makes 15 round mags but they work at 19+1. I bought 3 there doing me a fantastic job
@MitchFlint2 жыл бұрын
.357 & .358 bullets can be resized with the .356 Lee Sizing Die Kit ($20).
@bustabass90253 жыл бұрын
The .350 Legend did for the .357 Magnum what the .300 Weatherby Magnum did for the .30-06 Springfield. Winchester took a venerable, effective, and ubiquitous cartridge, gave it laser-like velocity, sledgehammer-like punch down range, practical application, and reliability. Love mine in a 7.5 inch AR pistol configuration. Guns N Basses Forever!🔫🎸
@SocialRegressive3 жыл бұрын
I wanna see your pistol's fireball. Sounds like a fun hand-cannon.
@bustabass90253 жыл бұрын
@@SocialRegressive Feeding it 170 grain Hornady SPs stoked with 26 grains of H110. Gives a whole new meaning to the phrase, "How to train your dragon!"💥
@alphapapa53834 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the video, thanks. I absolutely abhor the repeated assertions of "it takes 'x' ft. lbs of energy to kill an animal".. there are simply too many variables within a single caliber, let alone an attempt to generalize EVERY bullet for EVERY caliber in any given situation. It's just mind-boggling how seemingly intelligent individuals fall into this thinking w/o examination. To illustrate: a 62 grain. 223 FMJ has almost identical "energy" at 215 yards as a 200 grain .35 Rem soft point..so, same same, right? Good to go? IMO "energy" is useless information w/o the more important variables accounted for.
@umami02474 жыл бұрын
Great looking rifle. And I was going to go with the 450 but now I'm leaning towards the 350. And hopefully I can do this rifle I like it that much.
@rdaniels86814 жыл бұрын
If you can reload the .450 is a better round with great knock down power
@hardball1074 жыл бұрын
Stick with the 450. I own both the 350 Legend and 450 Bushmaster in Ruger American's and the 450 is much more versatile. The 450 gives you the option of light or heavy loads and with 225gr FTX handloads (2500fps in a bolt gun) sighted in 2" high at 150 yards it shoots flat to over 250. If your recoil sensitive the 350 is the way to go, I bought one for my grandchildren to use and they love it and it's cheaper to shoot but the 450 shines against deer.
@dustinmccain12154 жыл бұрын
This may be my new favorite round. Zero recoil makes for accurate shooting. Tried it once on a nice bucks @ 150 yds he dropped in his tracks. In Ms we can use this round in single shot rifles in primitive weapon season. Sure beats being best up by 45-70s and 35 Welens! I like my CVA 350 so much I will hunt with it most of the time of I'm not taking over 200yds which is about where I feel it's effectiveness in deer goes to.
@SocialRegressive4 жыл бұрын
I didn't know CVA made one. Thanks for the alert!
@dustinmccain12154 жыл бұрын
Yes the CVA Scout V2 Takedown in 350 Legend sports a 20in stainless, fluted, threaded barrel and a 2.7lb trigger pull. Very nice rifle. I have one in 350 and one in 6.5 Creedmoor.
@handcannon13884 жыл бұрын
The most interesting component bullet option I've seen is the 165 gr. Hornady FTX. Unfortunately, I could not find them in stock.
@SocialRegressive4 жыл бұрын
I can't find them, either.
@independentthinker89304 жыл бұрын
Hoenady357 ssp, great for a rifle
@garyK.45ACP4 жыл бұрын
No manufacturer ever tells the "whole truth" about a cartridge. The best thing about cartridges is they are pure physics, there is no "free lunch". A reduction in recoil = reduction in power. Plain and simple. 3rd law of motion. FYI, bullets designed for the .35 Whelen will NOT perform well at .350 Legend velocities even if you had not deformed them by sizing them to .355" The .350 Legend is nothing special. It's performance is slightly above that of the 112 year old .351 WSL. The .351 could easily meet the same performance except that the only rifle ever chambered for it was a blowback semi auto which required a specific level of velocity and recoil for reliable function. The .350 meets a very small niche in hunting. It provides a straight wall rifle cartridge where required by a very few state laws (and even parts of states) AND for people who wish to use the AR platform with a rimless cartridge for deer hunting. IF you do not have such restrictions AND are open to using any rifle except an AR, then there are many much better choices. I own both AR rifles and a Winchester Model 1907 in .351 WSL. I would choose the Model 1907 over an AR in .350 Legend any day of the week. Without restrictions, I would choose my Savage Model 99 in .300 Savage for the best deer rifle ever made.
@gunfisher46614 жыл бұрын
I wonder if people ever noticed that cartridges are spaced apart like the old chevy engines used to be [ 290 hp 300,315, 330 340 and so on] one for every use or budget.
@garyK.45ACP4 жыл бұрын
@@gunfisher4661 You're right. I don't know if people notice, but it comes from the old black powder days when velocity was, more or less, limited. You increased "power" by increasing bullet weight. You could increase weight within a caliber to a point, but then the bullets got long and took so much space in the case that velocity was lost. You could lengthen the case, such as the 1.75", 2.1", 2.4", 2.6", 2.875" cases in .45 caliber, until the cartridges got so big and long, they were impractical for anything but a single shot rifle. So...increase bore diameter to get heavier, but shorter, bullets. When smokeless powder was introduced, certain bore sizes had been established and remained popular, especially in .32-45 caliber. Throw in metric bores, converted to "inch" measure, and you end up with a BUNCH of bore diameters. Smokeless powder made it possible to use "smallbore" cartridges (like .30") without the barrels fouling, so along came all the .22-.30" bore sizes. For the last 30 years or so, the cartridges have been trying fill smaller and smaller "gaps" in the line up of cartridges, many times filling a "gap" left by a cartridge that fell into obsolescence 50 or 60 years ago...which is exactly what the .350 Legend is. There is actually very little "new" under the sun.
@mddunlap034 жыл бұрын
450 is what you use to hunt in straight wall limited states all I have seen is it must be at least .357 so 450 is every thing you want they chose 357 min to stop ppl using there glock 19 as a hunting weapon but here we are this guy advocating the use of a 9mm pistol caliber carbine with ammo that performs about like hot 9mm ball ammo past 50 yard as 350 180g soft point does not open up at all Sincerely a deer hunter from Ohio
@brandonsjsj4 жыл бұрын
Matt Dunlap it opens up to about 3/4 of an inch with the 180 sp, recover mine on the other side of the ribs from entry point. 150 yrds deer ran for 30 weight 192lbs without the guts 🤷🏻♂️. Velocity is about 2275ish under 25 grains of lilgun. Pressure signs but nothing too terrible.
@mddunlap034 жыл бұрын
brandon johnson you’re comparing some over spec handloads but on the same token using w296 and a 225g bullet people are hiting 2800fps+ and 4000lbs+ muzzle energy with hot handloaded 450 that is over spec but also showing minor pressure like starting to flatten the primer. But when you compare box ammo that 90% shoot the 180g 350L doesn’t even open much at 10 yards in ballistic jelly shown over and over agin in KZfaq vids. A 350 round going through 2feet plus of gel with minimal opening and clearly not dumping its energy with the 450 dumping it all in about 12 inches even though it has much more energy to dump. So box ammo 350 is basically +p 9mm ball ammo
@Pnazty11 Жыл бұрын
Just purchased an APF-15 that shoots 350 legend. I’m super excited to get out to shoot it! (And Yes I have a .223 upper to switch out)
@roadsideprophet20124 жыл бұрын
I don't think it has enough velocity to provide reliable expansion with the heavier .358 rifle bullets. It is essentially a big pistol round moreso than a rifle round. Like how people used to have terrible results trying to load 30-06 appropriate bullets in the slow 30-30
@hardball1074 жыл бұрын
@@chaist94 Biggest problem you have is that velocity in the 350 drops off fast after 180gr. I have a bolt gun and you can hop them up a little but the .358's start at 180's. Doesn't give you much to work with. I loaded some 225gr hardcast with gas checks with IMR 4227 and H110 at AR mag length and was lucky to get 1400fps before pressure signs started showing up. To small a case, looks to me the 158 Hornady XTP is the bullet of choice. They hold together really well, better than the FTX's and expand really nice at 2400+fps.
@robspear034 жыл бұрын
@@chaist94 They still blow through pert near everything with a clean hole and little to no deformation or expansion. Nope.
@harteverett4 жыл бұрын
I bout a KAK 358 Legend barrel. It does shoot everything.355, .356, .357, .358 , shoots all to same level of accuracy. They’ve been out for a while. I don’t know why but I’m glad I got mine when I did. Starline proving to be the best brass.
@SocialRegressive4 жыл бұрын
That's great to hear! I figured there would be a lot of gas blow-by with .355, but if it prints, then heck yeah! I guess that's like how I load .308 bullets in 7.62x54R.
@brandon19104 жыл бұрын
Great video. Being I shoot 45 LC I think this video sold me more on the 450 bushmaster. I have and reload for that .452 already and shows that the 450 and the heavier 350 had same trajectory with the 450 putting down energy much further.
@kross12614 жыл бұрын
Your exactly right. Get the 450 Bushmaster over the 350 Legend. Ballistically superior.
@durrock19274 жыл бұрын
big fan of the 35 caliber for hunting.
@tomboeve38834 жыл бұрын
450BM is the way to go, bullets nearly twice the weight and moves out at the same velocity around 2200 fps, custom loads out of a bolt action rifle can push near 2400 fps, its more accurate in my experience, and has better range. Only downfall is price but are you hunting with it or planking with it, and a lot of guys are building these off of their AR's to hunt with not go shoot for fun lol, plus if being built off of an AR you already have you're your 223 barrel for fun.
@uralbob14 жыл бұрын
Did Winchester tell the whole truth about the .350 Legend? Nope! No one who sees themselves as an ethical hunter, would ever try to take deer at the max range as advertised. I wouldn't try to take a deer at a range beyond 125-150 yards. Yes, it's an interesting new cartridge, but Win. folks were unethical in stating an effective range of 300 yards. Please, please guys and gals: don't go out and wound deer and other animals at those advertized ranges. Keep them under 150 yds.
@ashmerch25584 жыл бұрын
Thank you ! Between the lower velocities, very poor sectional densities and poorer ballistic coefficients, id say 125 yards sounds about right for a max range for your average 150ish lb Whitetail... its only saving grace being frontal area... that said, i think the 350 legend would make a great short range defensive/battle carbine
@trevorfout47594 жыл бұрын
Seen 3 whitetail does shot this year between 250 and 300 None of witch went more then 50 yards was very impressed with the damage this round did that being said I think 200 and is very realistic for the 350
@SocialRegressive4 жыл бұрын
+1 all the way 'round. I think
@newerest14 жыл бұрын
@@mattbrown2701 bow hunters take 150 yard shots?
@hardball1074 жыл бұрын
@@trevorfout4759 Shot 2 does this year with 158's and 180's, one at 120yds and another just under 140. IMHO the cartridge is a 150+ yard cartridge, marginal after that. Need to shoot longer ? Buy a 450 Bushmaster and sight it in at 2" high at 150yds. It will shoot 2" low at 225 and is effective past 250 with a little hold over.
@shaneboushie47374 жыл бұрын
My 45-70 with a 350gr bullet out of my Marlin 1895 Cowboy is hitting about 2400fps.
@mot0rhe4d402 жыл бұрын
I figured that limited mag capacity was the factor that would keep die hard pig hunters from running this caliber. I know I was very excited for this caliber. When it came out I was in the process of looking for a single shot 357 mag to ream to 357 Maximum. For my daughter's to hunt with. The 350L falls right into that ballistic envelope. Only reason I shy'd away. Was early reliability issues, magazine issues, along with feeding troubles. That isn't the experience I wanted my girls to have while hunting. With a lot of those early teething issues addressed. I find myself considering it again.
@ryantogo8359 Жыл бұрын
20 round mags aren't big enough for pig hunters? lol
@mot0rhe4d40 Жыл бұрын
@@ryantogo8359 20s should be more than enough. The 6.5 grendel is real popular night thermal scope pig hunting. And 26 round mags are the larger caps for it.
@xa35774 жыл бұрын
I’m waiting for the day that we are finally past everyone comparing things to .223. I feel like if you’re gonna compare straight wall cartridges we should be comparing this to the 45-70, .450, and even .444 Marlin. Please let’s get these big bore cartridges back into style! A wise old man once told me, ammunition companies aren’t making new bullets and brass, but simply repurposing them. A lot of truth in the 350 legend being a .357 diameter bullet
@GunFunZS4 жыл бұрын
And I'm waiting for the day when a Ford model A will be the benchmark for comparing cars as opposed to a Toyota Camry. I suspect I'm going to keep waiting.
@xa35774 жыл бұрын
I would say you’d be waiting. But at that point what are you comparing? They’re cars. 4 wheels. 4 cylinders. And that’s about it. Out of those calibers they compared, how many are straight wall cartridges? Better yet, how many were over .357 and a straight wall? This video was awesome! A bunch of great info. But isn’t the point to compare apples to apples? Or to simply get AR guys to see what you can do with another bullet in your platform? I could be missing something though.
@GunFunZS4 жыл бұрын
@@xa3577 This video is for the people who might be interested in 350 Legend. Those are people who want to hunt with an AR but live in specific states. That means they are normally AR shooters, so the relevant comparisons are commonly available AR15 rounds. 223 is the most obvious comparison. 45/70 isn't relevant because it won't fit in the AR15, and doesn't fit within their legal restrictions. That was my point.
@xa35774 жыл бұрын
GunFun ZS So back to your car analogy, would you enter a Toyota Camry, into a race that only Ford Model A’s can compete in? Of course you wouldn’t. Just like you wouldn’t hunt with a cartridge that isn’t straight wall, IN STRAIGHT WALL STATES. I’m here to tell you, a 45-70, 50 beuwolf, 350 legend, and a few other straight wall cartridges can be, have been, and will be placed into an AR platform. My issue with this, whole new cartridge, is for those who live in states, governed by laws that are strict on the straight wall cartridges, know what works, and at what range. “5 feet of drop at 500 yards”. C’mon. Get real. That’s ridiculous.
@xa35774 жыл бұрын
GunFun ZS so, to my point. You’d like to watch a 30 minute long video, watching someone comparing the STRAIGHT WALL 350 legend, to a bunch of other rounds that you can’t even hunt with? Makes sense.
@donniedickerson8077 Жыл бұрын
FACTS ,, My son and myself have switched to the 350 Ledgend, I've hunted Deer for 55 years, I've used them All, In my opinion,the 350 is that one rifle I been looking for, Have pictures to prove it,,, it's extremely accurate ,shoots flat, the pentatration is great 👍, knockdown is fantastic , AND even using the 180 grain Winchester bullet there's no recoil , I'm Sold On the 350ledgend
@SocialRegressive Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@kingragnar423 Жыл бұрын
This bullet just drops deer like no other.
@donniedickerson8077 Жыл бұрын
@@kingragnar423 I'll be honest, This Round Has Really Impressed Me, It's A All Around Great Cartridge,My Son and Me Both Use The Savage Axis Models his has the Accu Trigger, Mine Don't but They're Both As Constantly Accurate As You Can Ask For, Pick. Either Up Shoot The Same Target 🎯 and put Them All In the Same Hole ,I've Never Seen Two Different Rifles Shoot The Same Like This ,But watching other 350 Ledgend Test I'm Firmly Convinced The Cartridge Is Just A Perfectly Engineered Balanced Round, It'll put a 200 pound Buck Or A Big Pork Critter In Its Tracks Fast, Quick, And In A Hurry ,, It's great for a new Shooter Or Someone like myself because of the Lightest Recoil you'll find for a Caliber Designed To Take Big Game , Winchester Knocked it out the park with the 350 Ledgend
@gsitzkowitz4 жыл бұрын
I really do wish you had included the 300 Ham'r. I built one just before the Legend came out. It is a better cartridge and great for reloaders.
@dj1414 жыл бұрын
300 hamr 👍🏿
@harteverett4 жыл бұрын
Tell me about that Hmr , is it a full length 223 necked up or is it cut down at all?
@redalert98834 жыл бұрын
I like to explain it as a 300 Blackout MAGNUM. Case is still cut down, but is 1/4” longer than the 300 BLK. This means it is supersonic only; big sub bullets won’t fit in the magazine with the longer case. I think the 300 HAM’R beats the 350 Legend in every category except, it’s not a straight wall.
@hardball1074 жыл бұрын
@@harteverett I built a 7.62x40WC which is the old version of the 300HMR. Wilson just moved the shoulder forward .040" for the 300 BUT I love the cartridge. You just cut the neck off a .223 and reform it in a set of standard dies, takes no time at all. Check out KZfaq for vidoe's on the process. With 125gr Nosler BT bullets using A1680 powder and a 20" barrel I get a little over 2550fps and hit in the chest behind the front leg it's dropped 6 deer DRT with no tracking. For practice any 150gr bullet will work with a load of A5744 or H110 for cheap fun.
@jacobmarley49074 жыл бұрын
As a user of the 450 Bushmaster, I can state that the Hornady Black series with FTX bullets sell for $26.95 a box at my LGS. I reload for mine, but $26.00 plus or minus is about par for any premium hunting ammo for medium sized game. I will agree the 350 Winchester will offer more magazine capacity and a pocket full of cartridges will not pull your pants down like the larger straight wall cartridges. Another plus is the the cartridge uses the same BCG as the .223. I use standard AR mags with the 450 Bushmaster by means of a snap in follower that rotates in over top the AR follower. The 450 follower can be easily rotated out making my standard AR mags more versatile. I believe another good benefit of the 350 Winchester is the reduced recoil. The 450 Bushmaster, .458 Socom, and 50 Beowulf are not soft recoiling rifles and those persons who are recoil sensitive would benefit from the new Winchester cartridge.
@SocialRegressive4 жыл бұрын
Great data, Jacob, and thank you very much. I missed the Hornady Black series, and that's a heckuva bargain for a heavy hitter. Once I finish this 350 Legend and 458 SOCOM series I might try putting together a 450 Bushmaster rig to see how it compares in the field.
@TheWVgoodguy224 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing, pretty good comparison chart. I know that you could have added more like the 6.8 Rem SPC, but those other ones aside from the .223 and 6.5 Grendel compare in style to the .350 Legend. I want to build my own AR-15 mostly for predator/coyote hunting, starting with .223 since I already have some handloads using 65 grain Sierra Gamekings and 25 grains of CFE 223 (my brother took his AR back after 12 years to use for deer and hogs in SC). But my next upper probably would be the 6.5 Grendel or 450 Bushmaster since I live in WV and Ohio isn't too far from me, plus heavy thumpers seem fun. My brother built a .350 Legend AR-15 for under $500 including a 20" complete upper from Bear Creek Arsenal for around $200-225. I currently work at Walmart and the only ammo that we sell out of all of those on the chart is .450 Bushmaster in Hornady Black and Rem AccuTip and that is only because my dept manager ordered them after we finally got the Ruger Ranch rifle AFTER rifle season was over. We have been trying to get .350 Legend in since that is what everyone wants this year instead of the .450 BM that took us forever to get. But Walmart is super slow on the uptake with new ammo, cartridges, firearms and so much more.
@SocialRegressive4 жыл бұрын
I've seen 350 Legend at the Walmart near me, but I haven't checked in a while. I'd be curious to see how it's selling.
@TheWVgoodguy224 жыл бұрын
@@SocialRegressive must be a different distributor or people in charge of Walmart in that region. Sports South is the distributor that the Walmart I work at uses, they have the gun (probably a Ruger Ranch rifle, which there is a Sports South Exclusive) and ammo, but for some reason it is not on file to be sold at Walmarts in our region at this time. There are plenty of manufacturers that make them too; Ruger, Mossberg in their Patriot line, Savage Axis XP, Winchester XPR, etc...
@Perry21864 жыл бұрын
i figured it like 35 Remington
@jeffscuderi86624 жыл бұрын
Much slower much lighter bullett
@scottlamp30974 жыл бұрын
Thank you for clearing this up. Also, that is a great looking rifle btw
@basketofdeplorables42534 жыл бұрын
Much higher number of available projectiles is why I chose .458 socom over 50 Beowulf or .450 bushmaster for my big bore AR build. Plus the fact that the rounds fit in standard AR mags was another big factor. This .350 legend is looking very interesting too.
@ryantogo8359 Жыл бұрын
The 450 bushmaster has plenty of available projectiles lol
@basketofdeplorables4253 Жыл бұрын
@@ryantogo8359 Yea, now it does, but my comment was from 3 years ago and I bought my 458 socom upper 10+ years ago. at the time .451-52 selection of projectiles was really sparce, certainly no projectiles suitable for subsonic from a 450 bushmaster AR. Here's the other thing I've come to realize is that you can load and shoot the .451-52 projectiles out of the .458 barrel with good results, especially for cheap plinkers. I doubt you would have good results with 458 projectiles out of the 450 barrel. So, with the 458 the selection is still vastly bigger, especially if you load your own, LOL!
@joerobo6824 жыл бұрын
It actually remindes me of the old 38-55
@jeffreylay96064 жыл бұрын
Except that bullet is actually .375" diameter!
@joerobo6824 жыл бұрын
@@jeffreylay9606 still, it looks like it had an influence
@marshallhicks75954 жыл бұрын
As a 50 Beowulf I get 300 grain round nosed copper plated bullets for $23 a box and some 350 and 400 grain hollow points for $28 to $38 a box
@SocialRegressive4 жыл бұрын
Not bad all!
@wdyasq14 жыл бұрын
P. O. Ackley shot 8mm bullets in .308 caliber barrels w/o much problems. I'm sure some of the higher weight .358 bullets will work subsonic
@SWAMPHUNTER6444 жыл бұрын
I wish you had included the 44 Magnum in a Ruger Deerstalker carbine. Maxes out at about 125 yds and close to 1000 ft lbs depending on ammo. I'd like to see Ruger bring the carbine back in the 350 Legend using a clip magazine and keep the weight similar to the original. It was a wonderful woods rifle in NYS Adirondacks for deer and people are still trying to locate used ones.
@frankevans65843 жыл бұрын
I love mine
@lakeeriemonster45414 жыл бұрын
Here in Ohio we are restricted to straight wall cartridges for deer hunting. I’d just go with a 45-70 in lever or bolt action. I haven’t seen many spots here where one would have a clear shot over 150 yards.
@SocialRegressive4 жыл бұрын
That's like some of terrain out here in Eastern OK. Out West it's MUCH different.
@nataliedeyton68294 жыл бұрын
I hunted last year with a .450 bushmaster in a AR with a 20 inch barrel. Absolutely dropped the hammer on a couple deer. Bear creek arsenal has complete upper for like 250 bucks. I also have the .50 Beowulf from them (same price) they shoot great
@rdaniels86814 жыл бұрын
I took a 250lb black bear off his feet at 75yds with AR in .450 great round for my area, thick woods don't give long range opportunities
@lakeeriemonster45414 жыл бұрын
Rara Neagra yes it is legal
@ericlambert25852 жыл бұрын
I haven't read the other comments yet. My experiences are well over 150yard clear shots
@DT79674 жыл бұрын
Bear Creek Arsenal has some very good prices for the Legend uppers
@USAACbrat4 жыл бұрын
351 self loading re-run?
@jima280804 жыл бұрын
About like a 357 magnum is a 38 special rerun.
@TheDustin1514 жыл бұрын
My local Cabala's has .50 Beowolf for $26.99 in the FMJ. The hollowpoint is $27.99.
@TXLorenzo2 жыл бұрын
I was surprised how more powerful the 458 SOCOM was over the Beowolf.
@blackhawk7r2212 жыл бұрын
In my tossup between the 450 Bush and SOCOM, I went with the Bushmaster for the 300fps more speed I could get out of it.
@scottrice44314 жыл бұрын
So could you push 358 diameter bullets through a Lee sizing die and resize them to 357 or 355 and then load them into the 350 Legend ?
@jima280804 жыл бұрын
Yes
@kennethconnors53164 жыл бұрын
really covered this round , make it sound a useful hand loader product
@HansBelphegor2 жыл бұрын
Pmag mod gives you ~25 round magazines
@dustribra4 жыл бұрын
Cabela's carries .50 Beowulf. I've gotten it for less than $30 a box of 335gr. Ranier hollowpoint. The only downside for the Beowulf that I've found is recoil.
@swamprat90184 жыл бұрын
Doing bullets on Bambi, if you don't have to have a straight wall cartridge, 6.5 Grendel, next 6.8spc, then 350legend. for the ar 15 platform. I have not had any issues finding rounds for Grendel or 6.8 in my area stores. I believe the 6.5 Grendel to be the very best kid friendly deer round there is.
@independentthinker89304 жыл бұрын
.308 for the win
@wcollins49744 жыл бұрын
If it comes with a tungsten tip it could gain a whole new popularity !!!!!
@SocialRegressive4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a fun home project.
@jasonwoody80414 жыл бұрын
if you want to run a .358 resize a .358 to .355-.357 done.
@xxwiejskixx4 жыл бұрын
I love those big and heavy AR round, but every time, when thiking about getting one I realise that 45 70 can do better 😁
@JohnWest-yc9ol4 жыл бұрын
That and 444 marlin I own both and they are supreme deer rifles
@xxwiejskixx4 жыл бұрын
308 semi custom tikka close to scout rifle 300WM Bergara Ridge for longer range hunts 45 70 Henry as a brush gun and for driven hunting 6.5 cm barret fieldcraft as mountain rifle Im sad beacuse no need for another gun ;(
@fathertimencUSA4 жыл бұрын
350 Legend is a whole lot cheaper to reload if you reload.You can get 100 pieces of brass for around $26 and you can use 9mm bullets that are about $20 per 100 count.
@jjw51654 жыл бұрын
@@xxwiejskixx .223 wylde in kel tec rdb for cheap plinking and varmint hunting
@xxwiejskixx4 жыл бұрын
@@jjw5165 Have a 223 tikka with 8 inch twist, with 75 or 77 bullets Im pliking out to 500m. Guns that I mentioned above were just my hunting rigs;)
@GldenRetriever4 жыл бұрын
What are your thoughts on 350L in revolver length barrels? Mainly 4.5"-6.5". Would be wanting to run some hefty subsonics and stabilization is a worry.
@gainsmarter41684 жыл бұрын
Solid copper 90gr .355 would be zippy make for a great defense round
@SocialRegressive4 жыл бұрын
I have some right here awaiting testing.
@patmasters31842 жыл бұрын
Great info thanks !
@justinsteele8613 Жыл бұрын
Mos-tec Makes a barrel that is bored for A 358 bullet That adds another group of bullets you can throw in the mix get up to a 280 grain swift Afraid
@snakeman484 жыл бұрын
The people touting all the bottle neck rounds don't understand, or are too slow on the uptake. The 350 Legend was developed for the restricted states that only allow straight wall calibers. Michigan, Ohio, public land in Indiana, Iowa, and parts of Wisconsin.
@Gunners_Mate_Guns4 жыл бұрын
I'm a bit cautious about the idea of using the .358 bullets used in the likes of .35 Remington and .358 Winchester. I would think those would be your best choice for deer, at least assuming that you can propel them at least as quickly as they are out of .35 Remington and .358 Wincester to give sufficient expansion for clean kills.
@ditzydoo43784 жыл бұрын
This 350 legend is simply the latest flavor of the month, gun companies are forever trying to get the public to buy into the next great idea. People who live in areas with the restrictions you described have been use gun/ammo combinations like the 336 Marlin in .444 marlin which is far easier to buy and is far more effective on any game on the North American continent short of a rampaging T-Rex, and even then the .444 still holds the edge in effective penetration and knock down and speed..
@Gunners_Mate_Guns4 жыл бұрын
.45-70: Am I a joke to you?
@benschildgen49944 жыл бұрын
I'm waiting for one of the companies to chamber the .444 marlin in a bolt action. However the performance of this cartridge(350 legend) should work well for me in Iowa especially for my grandson, the low recoil of the cartridge with that kind of performance is impressive. I've been saying the .444 is better for everything and thank you for confirming this.
@robspear034 жыл бұрын
But, but, but....rimless!!!
@Gunners_Mate_Guns4 жыл бұрын
@@benschildgen4994 I'm sure you could get a rebarrel/boltface job configured for .444 on a long action bolt gun if you were willing to pay the $$$ to a good gunsmith. It could probably be done for a tad less than the real world price for a new quality (Ruger Hawkeye or Remington 700 BDL) bolt gun.
@ditzydoo43784 жыл бұрын
@@Gunners_Mate_Guns nope, no joke there.. just thumps a little harder than I'd like is all.
@Zwisermon14 жыл бұрын
I guess there is no love for 30carbine, that too is a straight wall cartridge.
@brandonsjsj4 жыл бұрын
Zwisermon1 sadly we can use it for deer :(.
@paulmoss79404 жыл бұрын
Not good for much of anything but better than a rock.
@brandonsjsj4 жыл бұрын
paul moss I mean it Killed a lot of nazis.. I have not a clue about ballistic of it but I’ve always just thought of it as a 357 mag in 30 cal.
@paulmoss79404 жыл бұрын
@Rara Neagra Well Duh,look at the shape of the cartridge and the spitzer shaped bullet on the BO compared to the carbine. Should give you a clue.
@paulmoss79404 жыл бұрын
@Lewis Sparks Easy to see the worth of this cartridge is marginal. You sound kinda like Joe Biden with that old term, nothing personal. Outside of war,more folks have been killed with the lowly .22 lr than any other round but that doesn't mean it was the best tool for the job. Just the one they had at the time. And thats no malarkey.
@dgott77264 жыл бұрын
Stuck in a zone where only shotguns and pistols are allowed. Went with 300 blackout....best performer out of a 10.5" AR. Wish my state didn't suck...
@SocialRegressive4 жыл бұрын
That blows, man. I've done some homework in Quickload and it looks like 350 Legend retains most of its velocity in short barrels. It must burn the pistol powder very quickly. I think it was a difference of roughly 150 fps between a 16" barrel and a 9.5".
@dgott77264 жыл бұрын
@@SocialRegressive Nice!! Good to know. Didn't realize this guy was short barrel friendly...
@normoloid4 жыл бұрын
LCR 357 with a handle that would hold couple moon clips, and this caliber rifle would be pretty good package for a hunter that likes to keep it simple and cheap. I wish someone would make a boattail bullet for this, it could be able to squeeze a little bit more range with it.
@SocialRegressive4 жыл бұрын
I've tried the Hornady XTP boat-tails in my handloads, but they wouldn't feed. 😥 That would have been a heckuva load.
@normoloid4 жыл бұрын
@@SocialRegressive Is it possible to retrofit a tip to them?
@stickstick78314 жыл бұрын
It's just a modern 3030 so like a 3530
@johnwayne74764 жыл бұрын
Looks like the new carbine load for military. Legend? Bad Legend? May be a good reloader chamber . Cast lead with black powder coat. Would still do about 1400 with 3x powder.
@blainedoan84674 жыл бұрын
Thank you Gary for the information
@tongaexpress4 жыл бұрын
Hornady sells the bullets now online all over the place.
@SocialRegressive4 жыл бұрын
Sweet!
@teamvision2AO2 жыл бұрын
I am building (almost done) piece by piece a Nerf gun look alike in 350 & i'm super excited to shoot it soon. Your video about 350 is AWESOME!! Thanks. I'm still looking for .50-ish cent rounds to no avail
@SocialRegressive2 жыл бұрын
Are you going to paint it?
@teamvision2AO2 жыл бұрын
@@SocialRegressive Yes, it is a mix of orange yellow purple and zombie green. It is mostly painted only a couple parts left
@ronsmith77392 жыл бұрын
Shoulda, coulda, woulda, yes a 358 Winchester and the 35 Whelen should have been 9mm rifle cartridges.
@RayBlackburn4 жыл бұрын
At 300 yards that thing has a drop of right at 3 feet not including the subsonic ammo that has a drop of 9 feet at 300 yards and 3 feet at 200 yards so it would be worthless for anything beyond 150 yards with supersonic ammo or 50-100 yards for subsonic ammo To give you an ideal if I set my 7mm08 to shoot 3 feet high at 100 yards with a 160 grain going 2710 fps muzzle I am sighted in for 1200 yards with over 850 ft lbs of energy at 1200 yards Where as the 350 legend would sight in at only 300 yards using a 158 grain starting at 2225 fps with only 620 ft lbs of energy left at 300 yards and only half the energy my 7mm08 has at 100 yards If i'm not mistaken a 300 grain sabot 12 gauge shotgun slug from a rifled shotgun barrel will have better ballistics and energy than the 350 legend has at 100-300 yards and I can bet you will probably get better ballistics from a muzzle loader 300 grain sabot slug also I think they called it the 350 legend because it will be legendary as to how many people got fooled into buying one because of the name only and nothing else LOL
@SocialRegressive4 жыл бұрын
Great notes, Ray. You're darn right; 7mm-08 and others will clean this cartridge's clock. I'm expecting good results with 350 in this light platform at close (within 200 yards) distances, though. Can't wait to give it a test on running pork.
@cat1924 жыл бұрын
A few things. First, your math is wrong. If a bullet drops 3ft at 300 yards, that's roughly 12 MOA. That means you'd need to be roughly 12 inches high at 100, not 36. Second, you're comparing an AR-15 length straight wall cartridge to a AR-10 length bottleneck cartridge. That's the equivalent of comparing a 45-70 trajectory to a 300 Winchester magnum. Third, don't lose sight of the fact that the primary reason for this rounds existence, is to offer a lighter recoiling straight walled case for the AR for use in states that have such a requirement.
@RayBlackburn4 жыл бұрын
@@cat192 Like I said a 12 gauge sabot slug or black powder rifle would do better and your math is so wrong it is pitiful being as a 3 foot drop at 300 yard is a 3 foot drop no matter how you look at it in the same way the subsonic drops 9 feet at 300 yards so the cartridge is only good for 100 yards is what I see and nothing more and probably only 50 yards with subsonic ammo Not only that but I never said it would have to be aimed three feet high at 100 yards and only mentioned what my 7mm08 would do if I aimed it three foot high at 100 yards so you might want to take a reading course as a way to learn how not to read between lines or put words in a sentence that were never there to begin with
@cat1924 жыл бұрын
I agree 3 ft at 300 is 3 ft at 300. However, when you mention about sighting your 7mm-08 in at 3ft high at 100 and it's performance, your next comment says, where as the 350 legend would be sighted in at 300 yards. If you didn't mean that to infer being 3ft high at 100 to be on at 300, then I apologize for misunderstanding your comment, but it definitely wasn't written clearly. However, even if I misunderstood you, my math isn't wrong. If a round drops 3ft at 300 yards, it needs to be 1ft high at 100 yards to hit point of aim at 300. I don't disagree that a 12gauge slug is most likely (I didn't look so can't say for sure) ballisticly superior to the 350, but some people would prefer to hunt with an MSR instead of a slug gun. Different strokes for different folks. I'd most likely hunt with a 45-70 or an encore in 460S&W if I was in a straight wall state. Different tastes are what makes the world go round. As far as subsonic ballistics, you are limited by gravity, slow bullets drop in short distances. Personally, I'm not a fan of subsonics for hunting whitetail beyond 50 yards with any reasonable cartridge, and probably wouldn't do it at all as expansion of the bullet and/or penetration can be unreliable. Again, different strokes for different folks.
@colsoncustoms89944 жыл бұрын
I just ran the numbers for the 170 grain soft point with a 100 yard zero, and at 300 yards the drop is
@marinechapssemperfiout99393 жыл бұрын
You have my attention. Semper Fi
@c4dan3 жыл бұрын
I was between investing in 450 bush and 350 legend. I went and got a 350 legend upper this weekend and took the plunge. Thanks for making these great videos it helped me find the direction I went. Let you know what I think.
@SocialRegressive3 жыл бұрын
Please do. I've been interested to hear what other folks think of the cartridge.
@davidjelinek19772 жыл бұрын
I have both and can’t go wrong either way .
@barndweller45734 жыл бұрын
You forgot cast powder coated bullets. There is a lot of people doing 350 legend with cast bullets. I have a great 147 grain let bullet I use for plinking can reload for less than 25 cents using brass I already have.
@vaughnprecision4 жыл бұрын
OMG, this time you showed up in my sub feed, unlike last time (thanks YouTwat)!
@SocialRegressive4 жыл бұрын
What did you call me??? :D
@brendenperry37704 жыл бұрын
I'm 14 my dad bought me a Henry 45-70 for shooting and hunting my friend has a Remington in .243 that he used until his grandpa bought him a .350. I told him I'd rather go for a cheap Winchester 1894 or something in .35 Remington but he said he'd rather a semi auto. If you got the money spend it I guess.
@duanewheare29394 жыл бұрын
.375 Winchester in a 94 is about the same power
@jeffscuderi86624 жыл бұрын
Both more powerful heavier bullets
@duanewheare29394 жыл бұрын
@@jeffscuderi8662 yes but cant fit an AR
@jeffscuderi86624 жыл бұрын
@@duanewheare2939 not limited to ar can use any action to hunt with
@robspear034 жыл бұрын
@@duanewheare2939 Irrelevant. This round was designed for hunting. Ive hunted with an AR. It offers no advantage in that respect than a good bolt or lever action rifle. Im an owner and supporter of MSRs, but ive no use for them in a hunting facet.
@brandonsjsj4 жыл бұрын
Chantal Beck you’ve never hunted large pig or groups of pigs😂, I’ve shot a 225 lbs pig 22 times- all god vital organ shots and it still hit my trippod while charging me. 300 blkout shooting 220 grain pills.
@ronaldroberts72213 жыл бұрын
A .358 rifle bullet can be swaged through a sizing die to .356-.357, but I have not tried this, and cannot confirm the performance.
@ar-gaming90144 жыл бұрын
I use .358 it’s easy and safe just buy a bullet resizer you shrink the .358 to .357 .356 or .357 I shrink mine to .357 from .358
@btrue684 жыл бұрын
For those of us in the straight wall cartridge states . This round is ideal ! Unless you really enjoy the punishment that a 12 gauge slug can do to your shoulder.