If only.... "RAAAAAWWWWRRRR!!!" "Captain, I'm sensing hostility..."

@@kev3d made me laugh

I think having Troi sense their emotions and report on whether or not they're lying would be classed as some form of interrogation. It's like using a lie detector on someone; there's certain rules about when and how you can use it. The same kind of principle extends to full Betazoids too; Using their mind reading abilities specifically to extract information for the purposes of trial would be classed as a form of interrogation, and as such would not be allowed in a court room. You could, however, use these techniques in an actual interrogation/interview setting as that's where you would be gathering information and whatnot.

I guess that particular walking plot device would have trivialized the whole ordeal, hence her exclusion by the writers. Honestly I wish she was excluded more often.

Bro admiral brand has no humor she barley smiles just slightly smirks at picard.

Spoken like a true klingon admiral

"You're disgraced us sir! You've shamed us sir! You shall answer!"

"A captain who loses the starship's dedication plaque... has no friends at Starfleet Command."

That's my style sir!

Picard: Counselor? Troi: … I sense nothing but “shut up Wesley.” Picard: Whoops.

This aged badly given that he assembled Novafleet right behind everyone's nose.

@@basilofgoodwishes4138 Look at when I posted this.

@@basilofgoodwishes4138That's the joke.

I mean it fell apart after an old classmate called him a jerk and he threw a temper tantrum...

What is this about?

*at his own hands out of pure stubbornness while Mariner tried desperately to get him to safety. There was no reason for him to try to defuse that bomb other than his own pride. There was a warp capable ship actively trying to beam him aboard and put light years between them and the bomb, but he was so overconfident and so stubborn he raised shields to block the transporter and died for it

the pay wall for a bomb... fuckin hilarious

Well that and a Ferengi Paywall.

And then suddenly Tom Paris shows up in season 5 of Lower Decks and wonder why he looks familiar.

Have to agree, see a lot of validation that nepotism goes on.

He shouldn’t have been allowed to investigate

I thought he was?

I agree. We saw too many of Starfleet members and ambassadors only, but Federation civilians with or without profession of another kind? Or old Federation members like Andorians by occasion at all? Very rare. 🤔

Gets 'em off every time. "Seeing as how you are hot, all charges are dropped. Just don't let it happen again, or get old or fat."

Now imagine why Boothby is the gardener. 😅

Yep but I'm glad admiral brand wasn't in voyager she had no idea Janeway did a prison break for him and immediately gave him a rank of lieutenant after first episode. Take that admiral brand hahahaaa

Yeah, the writers didn’t want to pay royalties so they changed some names around

@@Mogget01 To be correct, the production company. The writers are employed.

@@Dowlphin yeah, I coulda phrased that considerably better, writers don’t get to decide that stuff, thank you for the correction

Nah, they're totally different people (I mean, both appear in Lower Decks, so figure).

They probably didn't want to pay royalties to the writer so he got transformed into an identical person but I think it's the same guy.

The actor who played both has come out and said that while that was an early concept for Paris, the two characters are polar opposites. Locarno is a suave charmer who puts on a guise of politeness and selflessness while at his core being a morally bankrupt narcissist who will trade his friends' lives for personal glory. Paris is a brilliant kindhearted man who deeply cares about others, but puts on a bad guy facade because the mistakes he made lead him down a bad path and he doesn't see himself as worthy of redemption. Only when forced does either let the mask slip.

The original plan was for it to be Nick Locarno in Star Trek Voyager, but for whatever reason, the writers instead decided to create a whole new character for him. Which was a good idea because I hated this whackjob, he had NO redeeming qualities!!!

"Joke's on you lady! I love cleaning [REDACTED] out of the holodeck!"

I hope they have good jizz rags in the future."

He was also in The Onion Movie too, I recognized his voice!

@@Rayman1971 Onion movie?

@@HacksignKT The Onion News!

I think mind reading goes against the fundamental principles of the federation. It would be more of a style of an oppressive government. Plus, saying "he's thinking about that" is not exactly evidence.

"The Fifth Amendment provides protection to individuals from being compelled to incriminate themselves. According to this Constitutional right, individuals have the privilege against self-incrimination." while that is referring to the modern day US Constitution, it is a very safe assumption that they have similar articles and I highly doubt the Federation courts would rule against "thinking about something" being functionally equivalent to forcing someone to answer a question or forcing them to testify, thus using telepathy to interrogate or question someone would be a violation of a fundamental Sapient Right and thus anything picked up by telepathy would be inadmissible as evidence and blurting out "he's lying" or "I sensed him think about when he was murdering them" would result in an immediate mistrial just as much as if a bunch of evidence that was acquired without a warrant were to be presented also "I sensed [x]" would literally be hearsay and thus also inadmissible so to answer your question directly: because they actually respect Sapient Rights and understand the basic idea of "those who surrender liberty for security will have neither" as shown extensively in a different episode involving courts that did, incidentally, include a betazoid, and given the entire premise of that that episode is seems almost as if it were done as a direct answer to your question

They were, that's why they were over 2,000 km closer to a planet than they said they'd be, they were using it to mask themselves because they knew the flight maneuver they were attempting was banned and dangerous

Sure, but also, this character is kind of irredeemable. He's a liar and a bully who puts his own career ahead of the truth. He does the right thing at the end, when he has nothing left to gain by letting the others go down, but that's the bare minimum decency. On the other hand, Paris's crime was inspired by higher principles, by wanting to help people who needed it. He rebelled against the institution of Starfleet, but not its spirit.

It’s also because Locarno was viewed as irredeemable.

A lot of that is simply because the same actor played both roles, and both got into a lot of legal hot water. I expect there was some cross-pollination when the Paris character was built, but not an outright copy. A critical difference, two, really, was Paris completed the Academy. And Paris's father is a senior Admiral, its improbable lower ranked officers would have risked his ire by drop-kicking his son. Even if Admiral Paris verbally supported the decision. There's also the similar story Paris tells about why he's infamous, he made a mistake resulting in death, and falsified records, only to confess. But Paris, unlike Lacarno, was on active duty, piloting a shuttle and crashed it, killing three other officers who were oassengers on the shuttle. Lacarno was not actually part of the collision himself, and no one in Nova falsified data, just took advantage of incomplete data to lie. And Lacarno did not confess, he took the blame after Crusher confessed. This rumor would never existed if they had used a different actor.

@@manjackson2772 "Sure, but also, this character is kind of irredeemable." True, but Janeway straight up murdered Tuvix. So it's quite the merry band up there.

I don't see it.

They have the same face! They're identical!

No. I don't see it. @@Frommerman

Janeway: Mr. Paris, I've been reading up on recent academy activity and came across the incident with Nick Locarno. Paris: Mmm-kay, I think I heard about it. Tried an illegal flight manuever and got a kid killed? Janeway: Mr. Paris, cut the crap. Look at the screen - Nick Locarno is you. Paris: No Ma'am. I am the son of Admiral Paris. Janeway: Tom, fess up here. I had your DNA sent to the doctor and it came back positive. Nevertheless, we still need you at your post so I will merely demote you to ensign, then reinstate you 6 months down the road back to Lieutenant. Harry: Sorry Ma'am, but I've been eavesdropping. You mean to tell me this lying sack of shit gets away this this and I still can't get a promotion?

Sounds like him too.

Kind of! The actor said that Nick was a “bad guy pretending to be good” whole Tom was a “good guy pretending to be bad”. Or something to that extent. Either way, that’s why Tom was based on this guy and not exactly him. The writers felt that Nick was not redeemable

@@christophmalone6388That and they didn’t want to pay royalties to the writer of the episode.

Originally it was gonna be Nick Locarno instead of Tom Paris that the actor was playing on Voyager.

He didn't go down in shame. He did the right thing in the end and took his lumps. Then his renewed sense of honor took him out of Starfleet.

Backdoor pilot for a Starfleet Academy show they have been talking about doing for 40 years?

Vulcans have the ABILITY to be telepathic, not all are, and he does look at them like he senses they are lying even if not clearly. Besides going by your instincts isn't really the vulcan way.

Some shows do that for whatever reason. Battlestar Galactica did it too.

Sir is an honorable title, the admiral is above everyone in that room so the only appropriate responses are “Admiral” or “Sir”

@@wyettastone The person you replied even say "why has she not been thrown in the brig for speaking for a man." They are not asking questions, just plain misogyny.

@@Jestersage Ya I just read the rest of his comment, tis whatever