Differences between Astrologian and White Mage - What the Heal Am I Doing #2 (Feat. FFXIVMomo)

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2 жыл бұрын

Whether you're leveling through MSQ or stomping Ultimates, Astrologian and White Mage are great healing options. FFXIVMomo breaks down the differences between the two!
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@FFXIVMomo
@FFXIVMomo 2 жыл бұрын
first :D
@Leuk0s
@Leuk0s 2 жыл бұрын
Momo has been nailing it on these videos, would love to see more - especially after Endwalker's release!
@MarkusAndersen96
@MarkusAndersen96 2 жыл бұрын
I ADORE Astrologian, and the changes are very welcome :D
@trxyjxzy1075
@trxyjxzy1075 2 жыл бұрын
I dont play healers, i just like to listen to momo talk :)
@plantagominor722
@plantagominor722 Жыл бұрын
I've been playing this game (my first MMO) for 6 months and I still can't make sense of videos like this. The level of complexity of the systems combined with the pace at which you have to understand and apply them is just bonkers.
@jinuhinu
@jinuhinu 2 жыл бұрын
Astro is my fav healer to have with me. Least fav to play.
@MattnificentGamer
@MattnificentGamer 2 жыл бұрын
This is a really nice series, keep it up :D
@voodoosy7376
@voodoosy7376 2 жыл бұрын
Still planning to main SCH. Despite my initial WTF moment, feeling hype to mess with how OP expedient will probably be. Then trying SGE > AST > WHM.
@zlonewolf
@zlonewolf 2 жыл бұрын
SCH has massive heal potency buff due to changes in their barrier potencies. Im sure alot of healers who hate SCH will continue to complain about them being weak healers but after the changes more people will feel confident playing SCH. Its not perfect but its a much better shield healer than before.
@therunawaygirl5096
@therunawaygirl5096 2 жыл бұрын
I kinda just wanna say you're using old Earthly Star footage but that's a given. It's almost impossible to *not* be in its area now Great vid. Helps a ton :D
@ReksNuadiah
@ReksNuadiah 2 жыл бұрын
I've been an AST main - out of the healers anyway, my actual main is BLM - since I picked it up for my static at the time wanting it over WHM during Sigmascape. My heart has always pined for how it used to feel, but it's been a lot more fun at the end of ShB than the beginning and EW's certainly looks hella potent - and seeing Minor Arcana go back to a BETTER version of what it was in SB certainly makes me happy.
@Ravio.Helianthus
@Ravio.Helianthus 2 жыл бұрын
Still playing White Mage for my pure healer.
@Sky-jk4uv
@Sky-jk4uv 2 жыл бұрын
Im posting this before i watch this and will edit after i currently main AST, everything about it is uniquely fun and kinda chaotic in a way i love, the balance of healing, dps, and cards as well as the unique tools it has are just super fun to me i have recently started leveling a WHM to test against, as i like dps healers, but currently at lvl 37 its kinda just, boring, i find myself not having a lot to do currently as im used to being able to hit a lot mroe buttons on the AST, but im suret this will change as my AST is 61 in comparison Edit time: After finishing the video i think i will probably be primarily maining AST, i love setup and thats basically how healing is on it, as well just astrodyne, its just fun to me, THAT SAID, i think i will still be leveling my WHM as there are times where id prefer it Great video!! and thank you for all the info
@LamentaFortuna
@LamentaFortuna 2 жыл бұрын
From my experience leveling all the healers last year (no sage yet), I think WHM is the most boring healer until you get your Lily spells, which I think the first one might be around 52. From 1-50 it's the least fun healer to play and I think it has the worst tool kit until 50+. Astro and Scholar both were more fun to level at lower level, there was more to do and more ways to save a bad pull or a bad PF run. Once you get your full WHM tool kit, it becomes more fun to play but you wait such a long, long time to get every thing. But once you DO get everything it becomes borderline invincible because even if you fuck right up, you can recover very, very well. It's my go to "I have no clue wtf happens in this dungeon / trial " blind healer.
@Sky-jk4uv
@Sky-jk4uv 2 жыл бұрын
@@LamentaFortuna ohhh i see, thank you for the input!! ill level it casually then and compare eventually when it has all its tools then :)
@demagus
@demagus 2 жыл бұрын
The dude in this video is pretty knowledgeable. You should have him make more vids.
@silxer3154
@silxer3154 2 жыл бұрын
Ever since I started Heavensward a few months ago, I loved Astrologian and still do now as now I'm going to make my way into Stormblood. The AST changes look interesting and neat as well, somthing I'm really looking forwards too so I'm likely going to continue to main AST as my main healer. I'm still going to play all the other healers though as a healer main.
@rclines001
@rclines001 2 жыл бұрын
So I've got a lvl 59 WHM and a lvl 57 AST. The WHM was my main. Key work, "was". Maybe at higher levels it's different, but AST does everything better right now. Heals are faster, dot lasts longer, more insta heals, a skill that turns all skills into insta cast for like 15 seconds, plus buffs. I also burn through mana a lot faster on WHM while I hardly ever drop below half on the AST. WHM I have to constantly watch the mana bar. AST I don't even look at it. I can make mistakes as an AST and still be fine. I can't make mistakes as a WHM. I just can't see a reason to play the WHM over the AST. Sucks, cause I used to love the WHM..... before I tried AST lol.
@ahmedfalahy9337
@ahmedfalahy9337 Жыл бұрын
Changed to Astrologian and I don't think I can go back to White Mage. Astro makes me more busy with runs and the DPS boost from cards makes the run go faster
@jakoejchristophe201
@jakoejchristophe201 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! The difference between whm and ast? Ast does everything whm does, but better. It's quite annoying at 90. (Ast) They have equal potencies to whm, cast faster and cost less mp. It's utterly laughable that whm doesn't get at least more potency since they such have huge mp costs. You can say whm gets lilies, however, 30 seconds per lily is still really rough in savage fights. Now on to mp management, Thin air for whm has 2 charges.. aka sucks now. Ast gets a second lucid dreaming with 5 less potency as long as they are using their cards with no technical cooldown. -signed, one bitter whm main 😵‍💫
@ushinkou8569
@ushinkou8569 2 жыл бұрын
So not only does WHM get Medica II later, It's also more expensive MP wise and takes longer to cast? Why?
@x-Luchia-x
@x-Luchia-x Жыл бұрын
WHM was added pre-ARR 😊
@DantoriusD
@DantoriusD 2 жыл бұрын
I'm going from a WHM Main since 1.0 to a full SMN Main with Endwalker (and also some SCH here and there) I'm not really happy with the EW WHM specially now that the DPS Spells are reduced to 1.5 sec im missing some more weaving tools. Would love if the Lily spells would be OGCD's
@zlonewolf
@zlonewolf 2 жыл бұрын
The 1.5 second cast time is better for keyboard players but a major gimp for console players. Now its a spamfest for healers to dps. Its fine for pc players. They can spam all day. For console players it will take alot to adjust while having even more button bloat with more and more skills to macro every single expansion on forward.
@fluffdafire157
@fluffdafire157 2 жыл бұрын
I'm planning to stay with astro as my friend is maining white mage
@smnb6652
@smnb6652 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not a main healer, but when I played one I always gravitated towards the AST. These new changes are very cool imo and make AST by far the most Healer in my opinion.
@Nimoot
@Nimoot 2 жыл бұрын
AST... because Macrocosmos is broken in Savage at the moment.
@oscara8454
@oscara8454 2 жыл бұрын
Prob gonna play SGE and AST first. Prob gonna level them all eventually tho.
@pedramcq
@pedramcq 2 жыл бұрын
Legit what I have planned
@I_am_Samurai_Not_Ninja
@I_am_Samurai_Not_Ninja 2 жыл бұрын
LASER HEALER
@DutchOrBelgian
@DutchOrBelgian 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this. I feel like WHM and the new AST should be labeled as Regen Healers instead of pure healers. To me a pure healer would have no shields or regen, just heals.
@zlonewolf
@zlonewolf 2 жыл бұрын
Uh every current MMO out there has healers that have regen. What you state makes no sense. Pure healer and nonpure healer BS is all made up from your post. As far as FF XIV there are two types of healers but all healers get at least a skill of regen or shield just more or less EW took away skill potency making it not as effective to spam or rely on it unless the healer fits the FF XIV archetype class of healer as either shields or regens. Both types are capable of healing without neither. However it would be harder or not as mana effective. A regen healer stores mana effectiveness in over time heal with lower potency but passive small heals as backup for larger spammable gcds and ogcds. A shield healer does the opposite of regen healer. Their shields are massive potency but massive mana inefficient heal with more than 100% or even in SCH case up to 3x the healing if the healing potency of the heals with built in kits to critical heal and shield creating massive group wide tank buster saving barriers that would make regen mana efficiency seem a joke in comparison.
@TheSometimeAfter
@TheSometimeAfter 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty archaic mindset
@SaintBernardly
@SaintBernardly 2 жыл бұрын
glam? 👀
@SaintBernardly
@SaintBernardly 2 жыл бұрын
neo ishgardian jacket + far eastern officers bottoms and boots. this now make 2 outfits i have stolen from you 😅 feel free to surrender the colors though
@zunseah
@zunseah 2 жыл бұрын
Where is my SCH 😭
@Memyx
@Memyx 2 жыл бұрын
Hmmm... So, while I REALLY (really) enjoy the format of these videos you're making, isn't it a bit.. risky to make comparison vids before we see the final changes? I mean... I guess the general identities and playstyles of these jobs will remain the same, but certain skills.. maybe I'm overthinking?
@DantoriusD
@DantoriusD 2 жыл бұрын
You are a little bit overthinking. Potency changes doesnt change the Playstyle. As long as sthe skills doesnt get significant changes you can compare the Jobs really good. But sure everything is still subject to change. But in the Past the skills itself didnt get that much changes between Media Tour Builds and the Final Release.
@zlonewolf
@zlonewolf 2 жыл бұрын
Fast forward 2 weeks. Everything is pretty much accurate. I just wish Sage was a bit stronger. Their healing kit is okayish. They are basically Scholar without fairy heals. For me healing as Scholar is underwhelming. Yet at least fairy and Seraph made up for it. Sage without fairy is even worst. They do make up for it with 20 seconds gauge instead of 3 charge every minute. However Scholars can save energy drain for 6 stacks. Sage cant do that. Sage has no answer for Scholar Dissipation which give Scholar total of 9 stacks which is insane amount of ogcd heals.
@superduperkid3143
@superduperkid3143 2 жыл бұрын
@@zlonewolf you clearly aren't a good sage if you think it's weak.
@zlonewolf
@zlonewolf 2 жыл бұрын
@superduperkid Sch is weak compared to whm or ast. What can Sch do that whm can as Bene, regen, medica 2, medica, thin air, cure 2, cure 3? Sure theyre now regen vs shield types but its always been. Only ast got nerfed to lose nocturnal for diurnal. Regen is fairy but better. Medica 2 is succor but better. I give Sch for shields. But whm potencies with cure 3 and medica blows succor out of the waters. Cure 2 is adlo for less mana. Crit Adlo with and without recitation is nice. But divine benison serves similar purpose. Lustrate is 9 stacks mana free lily heals vs white mage 3 stacks. I give Sch that. Whm plays better though in almost all case compares to Sch. Lily system is every 20 seconds. Need mana? Thin air for days. Holy spam locks down dungeons for days. I like ruin 2 and art of war instant dps. Thats one thing Sch and Sage does well is instant dps. But their heals sucks in comparison.
@SilverforceX
@SilverforceX 2 жыл бұрын
WHM does not stay the same. Thin Air is a major MP nerf in EW. Compare the MP economy for the different healers, WHM needed Thin Air as it is to be already less MP efficient. AST is by far the superior healer.
@DantoriusD
@DantoriusD 2 жыл бұрын
You still have Lucid Dreaming. Youre right that this is a really big MP Nerf but when i look back to ShB i didnt really need Thin Air that much. Maybe E12s and TEA.
@serpenking
@serpenking 2 жыл бұрын
@@DantoriusD thin air had it's specific very handy use when you just got revived in a battle, and you need to fling out a shit ton of heavy heals and revives to the whole raid party while on literally 0 mp (with lucid dreaming turned on for extra efficiency)
@zlonewolf
@zlonewolf 2 жыл бұрын
@serpenking uh no its not shyt ton of heal and res. Res takes 8 sec so max you can do is one res and one more res or two heal. Lol. Also its 15 sec so max 5 heals and no res. Thin air is now 2 charges. So you can res same as before with 2 charges. If you res and heal you get ONE less heal. If all you did after death is heal then MAYBE you will not get 5 heals. But if you heal 5 x vs 2 thats a raid wipe or your raid group sucks anyway. Also you got shyt ton of ogcd heals. Learn to use them lol. What a noob.
@Radio_Active369
@Radio_Active369 2 жыл бұрын
I think AST is going to be very powerful in EW. I would certainly be ok with it knocking WHM off of its throne. I'm tired of seeing nothing but WHM's in roulettes, dungeons and raids.
@zlonewolf
@zlonewolf 2 жыл бұрын
Youre be sorely disappointed. Lol. Ast got the nerf stick with removal of nocturnal sect. Theyre basically a weaker version of whm now without nocturnal. Except now you get to play with carpy cards with tons of button bloat. Everything that Ast learn later on as healer a whm learn much earlier. Only thing Ast has is group dps buff and ogcds that arent tied to lillies. Other than that whm is far better healer. Prenerf Ast was unique shield caster. Now theyre a whm clone but with cards. SE screw Ast hard.
@bruhstoptaggingme
@bruhstoptaggingme 2 жыл бұрын
@@zlonewolf Eh, tbh Nocturnal sect is shit anyway. Astrologian has the best mp economy of all other healers, because you basically get 2 lucid dreaming. Their healing spells also has less mp than White Mage despite having the same potency, and also cast a bit faster too. Divination no longer needs 3 seals and Earthly Star is basically a giant sized heal bomb now. AST is a bit OP now. WHM has the worst mp economy of all healers with the Thin Air nerf. Its ok when you have Lucid Dreaming and Assize, but if you get KO'd, what's gonna save you? Unless you have Tetra, Assize and Bene, all of your lilies are going to disappear with nothing to save you and other party members. Also Lilies are on gcd and blood lily is supposed to be the thing to make up for that lost dmg, but with the Glare buff it kind of makes it a dps loss.
@Azurebolts
@Azurebolts 2 жыл бұрын
@@zlonewolf lmao what. The loss of nocturnal means nothing to ast due to Neutral Sect's existence alone. And ast is even stronger than Whm currently thanks to Macrocosmos. While I agree on the slight button bloat ( drawing lord/lady and playing it should be the same button) cards are central to astro's identity. Hell, you don't even need to fish for 3 seals, 2 is fine. The only problem currently is astro's burst during div windows as you can't heal for around 12 sec due to the amount of card playing you need to do to align buffs.
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