It kinda is lol

Is the version that best sticks to me, well, maybe it's because I'm studying Japanese...

Circles are used in Japanese writing when "western years" are given in kanji, like 一九八◯ for 1980, or to mean "blank". School textbooks and official posters are full of shops called ◯◯スーパー

Imagine typing the word "circle" when all you could've done was use a 🔵 In all seriousness, 4,000 years ago the員component was a picture of a cauldron with a round opening (and it also provides the sound of the character), and the 囗 = border/boundary/surround/circumference. So 圓 actually does have logic to it.

@@worldcomicsreview354 Thanks for the explanation

@@rhino5877 Yeah lol but it’s letters vs symbols… but thanks for the explanation

@Settiis Yeah hah, I was just having some fun with that. But Chinese characters are words too, not just symbols or pictures. They're just written in a different way from letters, that's all. :)

Good job

グッドジョーブ。it may take like 10 minutes for a Chinese.

@@zhenyuchrisyang6350I doubt ten ? As it depends on whether you know simplified , traditional or both

Hanji(Chinese characters in Japanese) = wrong Chinese characters

丸丸円 聞いて聞いて 本当の 証明書 アートゆん 戦争戦争 鉄鉄 広光黄 チュチュ図 悪 悪 雑多 剣 剣 短剣

Hanji(Chinese characters in Japanese) = wrong Chinese characters

@@barbiebarbie1813some of them looks cursed

It’s not 壬 but 𡈼. 𡈼 is the phonetic component, as appeared in 呈 and 聖 as well

@@crosstam2262 Thank you so much for pointing out the mistake.

@@user-dj5ki4km8c いえいえ、お互いに助け合いましょう

ah yes very "easy"

@@anguslazy it's easy; all you have to do is learn 2136 kanji across about 9 years (of school education) and you're now mostly proficient in japanese literacy!

Oh yeah, you literally described my way of thinking about these three character standards)

As a Traditional Chinese native speaker, I agree with you.

​@@patrickshao2740What's the difference between traditional Chinese speaker and simplified Chinese speaker? the pronunciation and the meaning are same

In fact, the font that can truly perfectly express the meaning of Chinese characters is 小篆. Traditional Chinese characters in 楷書 are simply simplified versions of 小篆. Please observe 書 and 晝 in 小篆, they are completely unrelated, but in traditional Chinese, they are only 一 difference. After simplifying the 小篆, traditional Chinese has long lost its original meaning, and simplified characters have even restored some of the writing styles of oracle bone script, such as 网 and 云. Whether it is Simplified Chinese or Traditional Chinese, their internal logic is the same, which is why both mainland Chinese and Taiwanese Han Chinese can read each other's texts without barriers.

​@@user-hq3ht2hp6x简化漢字前的国际漢字标准是基于康熙字典的，在正式场合中日韩越都使用其作为唯一标准

所以你们立法院为什么不写“立灋院”？

所以清朝一堆人写简体字怎么回事？

最早广泛推行简化汉字的尝试还是中华民国大陆时期的事情，和共产党毫无关系😅龟缩到小岛上的南朝就连这个也忘了吗？@@Michael-fp9zb

Because circle is a forbidden shape in chinese characters, so you have to use other shapes which approximate a circle, like squares

because its hard to draw perfect circles

@@molor0824 well yeah it must have to do with brushes not being a good tool to draw circles. If you compare with older hanzi like oracle bone script or seal script, well there are circles as it wasn’t written with brushes i guess?

​@Joshi _68 There isn't a problem with writing circles with a brush. Circles are used in the Korean hangul script, and Korean calligraphy is also done with a brush. Not to mention Chinese brush painting. There is also evidence that characters were written with a brush in China during the time period of the Oracle Bone Script ~4000 years ago. However, you can't make round shapes when carving, so it probably has to do with the fact that the characters that were carved into bone, shell, stone, metal, etc. are the ones that remained for later generations, and the straight lines of those forms undoubtedly influenced the development of Chinese characters and scripts such as Seal Script during the Zhou dynasty.

@@rhino5877 I knew about the korean example but didnt think there was a link due to the origin of the glyphs in that script. However it is true that in carvings and printing presses for example, especially in song / ming typeface (the one often seen in newspapers), there was a time where some radicals had to be modified to be less curvy because it couldn’t be engraved onto the individual metal pieces. Radicals like ⺭ and ⼛ come to mind as they changed considerably.

centre colour organise licence catalogue travelling tyre grey Have you a pen? No, I haven't. ← これは流石に英国でも現代では使われていないと聞いたけれど。ペンス－シリング－ポンドぐらいの昔かな？

In some terms, yes, But not as quite. Mandarin is a logographic language so the differences is quite huge.

​@@okim8807 metre kilometre centimetre millimitre litre millilitre shoppe gaol kilogramme gramme milligramme tonne Newton dyne Joule erg Watt Pascal Hertz amp Coulomb Farad Volt Ohm Mho Weber Tesla henry sievert radian steradian Kelvin degree Centigrade candela lumen lux katal km/h cubour maximum speed

実は中国とベトナムでは「⿳口十回」と書き、台湾・香港・日本・韓国では「⿳口亠回」と書きます

xd Edit: Wait that's actually such a good way to remember it holy crap

xd

Yep.

厂 これさらに虚しいよ。😂

廠>厂

なんか中国のって簡単さ全振りで美しさ考えてないよね

共産主義だからでしょ

这本来就是为了提高识字率而简化的，太复杂了难学​@@Ssandayo

ちょっとだけねｗｗｗ

Yup. Will absolutely die on the hill that, say, 导 is harder to remember than 導.

As someone who only learnt simplified, I'm sorry, what?!

@@Ong.s_Jukebox yes, some people learn easier with more difficulty like traditional, rather than simplified, its kinda insulting that to some simplified only user seeing someone who learned traditional pretty easy or with no difficulty (personal experience) lol

@@afdhalulakbar5382 I don't know about other people. But simplified alone is already hard enough for me, and the fact that there are people who prefer traditional doesn't make me feel to look down on them in any way, in fact, I feel admired. And if I insulted you in any way, that's on you, I guess.

@@Ong.s_Jukebox it depends on the way you remember them. I rely on radicals/primitives a lot and try to tell the story about the kanji (Heisig method). That's why when a tree primitive is replaced with just weird cross, i don't like it, becuase i need to remember that it's actually a tree :D

then you forget how to write it.

​@maolo76 the stroke order thing doesn't even have that much of an impact on how the character looks, so as long as they know the word/symbol from typing they can draw it. It won't be as fast, and it takes more focus to make it look clear. There is always also the option of "remember the rules for strike order" because most symbols use the same rules. I think it is top-down, left-to-right, out-to-in-to-close, by-radical, or something like that.

​@@tristanmitchell1242They're not easier to read for the average mainland China native and learner per se.

If I'm not mistaken, a bunch of knowledgeable people came together to simplify the characters and now they're as they determined So there are some identifiable tendencies but it's just the way it is And you yourself never simplify, you just learn it and that's it (Also they have different use cases, different enough that it's completely ok to actually not know the traditional versions if it's not a part of the Chinese you speak/day to day life) I'm not an expert, just a guy on the internet, take it with a grain of salt

Here is an interesting video kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nNWarbGj3KelqX0.html

note that the transformation is destructive and irreversible.

@@user-dj5ki4km8c This is rather ignorant. Simplified Chinese was largely based on a couple of calligraphy styles that had been in practice for centuries. Also, even growing up learning and using only simplified, most people (me included) have no problem understanding traditional Chinese. This attitude of superiority is very grating, and I suspect it came from a certain political angle, instead of any real appreciation of the Chinese language group.

The simplification of Chinese characters, primarily implemented in Mainland China, followed several key principles or standards. These standards aimed to make the characters easier to learn and write, thereby increasing literacy rates. Here are the main standards used: Eliminate Variants of the Same Character: Many characters had multiple variants. Simplification aimed to standardize and choose one simple form for each character. Reduce the Number of Strokes: Characters with many strokes were simplified into forms with fewer strokes. This was often achieved by simplifying complex parts of characters into simpler forms. Simplify Complex Components: Many characters are made up of smaller components or radicals. Where possible, these components were simplified. For example, the "speech" radical 言 was simplified to 讠in many characters. Adopt Commonly Used Simplified Forms: Some characters had simplified forms that were already commonly used in handwriting due to their ease of writing. These simplified forms were often officially adopted. Derive Simplified Characters from Cursive Script Forms: The cursive (草书) script of Chinese writing often has simpler forms of characters. Some of these simpler forms were standardized and adopted into the simplified script. Substitute Complex Characters with Simpler Homophones: In some cases, a more complex character was replaced with a simpler character that has the same or similar pronunciation. Reduce the Number of Strokes in the Radicals: Many commonly used radicals were simplified to have fewer strokes, affecting a large group of characters. While these standards have significantly increased literacy rates and eased the learning process, they have also been subject to criticism. Some scholars and linguists argue that the simplification has led to the loss of traditional culture and the aesthetic value of the script. Others note that it has created a disconnect between modern readers and historical texts, which are often written in Traditional Chinese. Despite these criticisms, Simplified Chinese is widely used in Mainland China, Singapore, and Malaysia, and has been instrumental in increasing literacy rates and modernizing the Chinese writing system.

Variant? 異体字?

@@afdhalulakbar5382 Well, it's the original Kangxi Dictionary form. 真 is actually a "simplification" (more accurately 新字形, which was before Simplified characters)

Traditional and Shinjitai are better.

I will NEVER choose Simplified, because it was originally formulated for illiteracies.

@@user-dj5ki4km8c bruh, I fear someone will be offended in this comment, please stop it

@@afdhalulakbar5382 I just told the objective fact. (Check it on Wikipedia)

@@user-dj5ki4km8c actually, from what I heard, the simplified script is also a stepping stone to get rid of Chinese Characters altogether. But that never materialized at all. There are some Simplified versions that I think is a bit better, an example is 單-単-单 (Trad - Shinjitai - Simplified) While I can see the reason why 単 is written like that (calligraphy), 单 is just one more stroke out from that, bit more logical. 戰 - 戦 - 战 this one is a bit weird at first, but what it is, is taking the phonetic component 單 (dan1) to the more recognizable sound of 占 (zhan1) Thus 战争 (zhàn zheng1). The Japanese version is logical, just take 單 => 単，thus 戦. But there are some are like wtf 谷 and 穀 meaning valley, and grain respectively, but they are merged into 谷 because they have the same pronunciation, like wtf (although I heard of a reason why in a book documenting the reasons why simplified Chinese had those simplifications, but I need to find it if I could). 乾, 幹 and 干 had been simpfied down to just 干 because of same pronunciations too like also wtf. But again Japanese does have that problem too, 辯，辨， and 瓣？all down to 弁 due to being similar enough to pronunce together (and Chinese did try to do that too in their second round of simplification, but was abandoned) I recommend searching up 宋元以來俗字譜, this compilation of character variants (among with others that for now I forgot) are the basis of many simplified and shinjitai forms that are used today. Forms like 聽 ＝＞听，從＝＞従 or 从 （从 is actually the original form of 從）, 德＝＞徳, 曉＝＞暁 for Japanese, and 愛＝＞爱，淚＝＞泪，實＝＞实 for Chinese. There are some that are even shared together like 畫＝＞画，當＝＞当，黨＝＞党，戀＝＞恋。 the problem is this: there are now three different main standards for writing the same "idea" or character, how can one do to make one standard for all?

Don’t forget that TC characters are also used in HK & Macau

@@LucarioKnightX thats even easier to fix, so few population for usage, it will gradruly fade out

@@liran547 the reason for simplified chinese is for easier and faster writing. in digital world , its no longer a must. but i gotta say they both exist and most ppl still capable of reading both form. especially traditional events and chinese calligraphy brush art all use traditional chinese writting. so it ant forgotten. but ppl prefer write in simplified form to save time.

@@redhongkong over time my friend, if it can be simple, no one wants the hard way, this applys for everything. traditional isnt forgotten, it is just gonan fade out over time, thats the trend

It's really ridiculous. You don't understand the evolution of Chinese characters at all. What reason do you have to say that simplified characters have no meaning? Not to mention that Chinese characters themselves are defined by China, and any other country’s reference can only be said to be piracy.

if not all, then later that will be all

@@liran547 That's not even close

Of the 7000 frequently used Chinese Characters, only ~31% are simplified. If you widen the range to the 13000 characters in a modern Chinese Character Dictionary, this percentage drops to ~17%

@@HD-fy2wu its the goal, simplifying that is.

​@@liran547 There are characters like "一" and "丁" that don't even make sense to be simplified so it will never be the goal. Another fact is that there was actually a second round of simplification on 853 more characters in the 70s but was revoked in the 80s because it went too far, making some characters too similar to each other, (eg 南 and 商 only left with their outer layer) and merging too many characters to the point that it hinders understanding. For example, "盒" merged with "合", "蛋" merged with "旦", etc.

it isn't

You can remember it when you are young.不过就是成年人也会在很多时候写错别字，哈哈ﾚ(ﾟ∀ﾟ;)ﾍ=З

Most of the 3,000 commonly used characters have been simplified, and when we write quickly, we use cursive script. For us, the time it takes to write a commonly used Chinese character is equivalent to the time it takes to write two English letters. Of course, the other tens of thousands of Chinese characters have not been simplified, and these characters appear less frequently.

韓国の国民のIQはどうですか？

Absolutely not 😢

@@lovetrain-dirty-cheap 但他自称书道家。。。。

@@user-hq3ht2hp6x彼は日本人です。日本人から見てこの人の書く漢字は上手く見えますよ。

@@user-fe3pi1xi8y Even compared to Japanese printing fonts, his Chinese characters are not very beautiful. This is not a difference in font between Japan and China.

@@user-hq3ht2hp6x いや、どう見ても綺麗でしょ？あなたはこれ以上綺麗に書けるの？

漢字を使っている国は、中国、台湾、越南、日本ぐらいなのかな？ もう朝鮮半島ではほぼ使われていないようで残念。

書寫時代 文字簡化是個好事. 你光看台灣記者寫的筆記就知道他們從來不寫繁體 能藉鑒簡體的肯定用簡體 能用注音拼音的都用. 不過到了電子時代 都打字了 就沒有很大的必要一定要簡化字體了. 台灣就是太多洗腦洗殘了的人縫中必反的. 一遇到任何跟大陸有關的事 腦子就不工作了.

簡體字的發明也是為了去漢字化，但後來因為種種原因停止了

@@user-fj4co3ku4p 你的思維邏輯有問題 去漢字化的是民國時期想要拉丁字母化 替代漢字的人. 簡體跟去漢字化有毛關係. 簡體化是爲了速寫. 你可以看一下台灣記者的筆記 再說

@@redhongkong 那個時代人人都覺得漢字就是落後，一直到中華人民共和國建立後也不例外，最終目標就是拼音化，像越南、韓國，認為水準太低是因為漢字太難學不會

@@user-fj4co3ku4p 韓國越南 是由於距離中國太近, 怕被assimilate 所以他才改變漢字 抹除自己跟漢人有關係的歷史. 越南 朝鮮 都是漢人政權. (漢文化從古至今唯一不變的一點就是融合性太強, 就像滿人 羌人 越人 蒙藏胡 等等 都是一點一點被同化了. 漢人不是單一種族 他是一個海綿一樣的群體)

到底是谁可悲呀？ 片假名平假名本身就是从草书里借鉴的。 简化的汉字也是从草书里借鉴的。 有优劣之分吗？

They also removed 心（heart) from 愛 to 爱 😂😂

It's kinda not removed it but borrow it from the anceint when the character for love is still not using 心​@@rizkaputria364

Simplified Chinese characters are a great way to make writing Chinese quicker and more straightforward. They weren't created for censorship, but rather for informal use - and even then, Traditional Chinese requires more effort to write as it's more of a formal script, being much older than its simplified counterpart.

simply cuz u hate China

​@@saudiphilippines Simplified is much older than traditional. A lot of them can be traced back to Shang. And also Cursive stuff.

@@danielantony1882 Nope, that's inaccurate. The Chinese administration brought in Simplified Chinese in 1956 to make it easier to write and enhance the literacy rate of its citizens. The Shang Dynasty relied on the ancient Oracle Bone script rather than Simplified Chinese. The cursive form of Chinese started appearing during the early days of the Han Dynasty, which was significantly closer to the period in which we live today than the Shang Dynasty.

@@saudiphilippines That's not what I said.