Digging An Underground Storage Closet (Sandbar Part 5)

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2 жыл бұрын

In this one we dig out a closet in our underground speakeasy, so we can store all the dumpster-dived beer that keeps appearing!
We also tried moving some sand with a DIY pneumatic conveyor system.
In addition, I investigate a strange thud or thump from somewhere in the tunnels that startled me while I was digging! Is it a collapse? A ghost? It's a mystery!
More Sandbar and Sandland vidoes are still to come! Next time we might be working on a brick archway and door for the closet, as well as expanding the passages in the bar room.
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@pbpx
@pbpx 2 жыл бұрын
Love to see the caves that are playing with elevation. thats definitely the way I would go!
@saveitforparts
@saveitforparts 2 жыл бұрын
There will be some different levels in the Sandbar eventually, right now I find it easier to dig on one level and get a bunch of space to work with.
@RallyX26
@RallyX26 2 жыл бұрын
So for the pneumatic sand transport, what I think you want is a high volume ventilation fan, like the ones used for confined space access. You also want to reduce the diameter of the pipe before the tee, then enlarge it again after. It creates a venturi, where the air speed increases and the pressure decreases. It'll suck the air (and sand) into the pipe.
@alden1132
@alden1132 2 жыл бұрын
I'm really enjoying your sand tunneling videos, but I feel obliged to say something. As someone who has done my own tunneling through soft sandstone, I IMPLORE you to reinforce you walls and ceilings. Also, please, please, PLEASE keep a VERY close eye on ANY HINT of the ingress of water/excessive moisture. Especially so when associated with a ceiling. I dug a 15-20 foot deep, multi-level tunnel in a sandstone bank in my mid- to late-teens, & found that even the most solid-seeming walls and ceilings can collapse unexpectedly, and especially so after periods of heavy rain or strong humidity. I abandoned the tunnel after a relatively small, but COMPLETELY unexpected, deeply surprising partial collapse of part of a wall and ceiling. It happened in a particularly strong, hard-packed region. The partial collapse, which followed a period of steady rain for a few days and high humidity, happened in an area that had seemed SO solid, and unlikely that I immediately abandoned any further excavation until I could extend my wall and ceiling supports. The collapse CRUSHED 2x4 and 6x4 columns and rafter-supported plywood ceilings, and completely blocked the tunnel. To this day, my shovels, sleds, pick-axes, sledge hammers, snow-sleds (used for sand removal), wheel-barrow, and reciprocating saw/blades are entombed in those tunnels, and I would be too scared to even attempt a retrieval, even if I knew for sure the section of tunnel they were stored in (which had the only arch-suppieted section of ceiling) hadn't been buried in the collapse. Anyway, just please, PLEASE be careful. I would suggest that you consider getting an opinion from a civil-engineer, or someone with equivalent training/education. It would suck for such an awesome project to end in tragedy.
@saveitforparts
@saveitforparts 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Alden, thanks for the info! I'm curious what region or what kind of sandstone you were digging in? I know there are a few different types, around here we're mostly familiar with Jordan and St. Peter sandstones. They do see some erosion from water and freeze/thaw, although generally it has to be constantly flowing water to cause significant damage. Our sandstones actually tend to hold up better with a high moisture content, if they dry out too quickly they tend to flake and crumble (slower drying seems to form a harder crust on the part exposed to dry air). We've looked at quite a few historic artificial caves and tunnels, as well as natural sandstone caves. We've based our tunnels largely on historic designs that have survived unsupported in the same geology for 100+ years. We do have the main entrance supported with an adit structure, that reinforces the area where there's outside air and surface water changing the temperature and humidity of the sandstone. We also have the Donut Room reinforced with steel anchors and beams in any problem areas (Jordan Sandstone tends to have crevices that contain looser material). I'll definitely pass along your concerns to the property owner, and I think he'd also be interested to chat with you about your tunneling experience!
@crankytank
@crankytank 2 жыл бұрын
You don't need to beef up those shelves, you just need some drinkers!
@Reaperman4711
@Reaperman4711 Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure youtube sent me to saveitforparts as a suggestion for more satcom vids, but instead I'm binging on all the digging. 🤣
@coltius
@coltius Жыл бұрын
Your best bet might be making an Archimedes screw with a fairly loose fitting auger. You can get fairly cheap 4" augers that could be connected end to end inside of a PVC pipe and then ran by a torquey electric motor (or better yet steam engine) via a gear/chain drive. The nice thing about Archimedes screws is they work even without having a precision fit. You could connect more or less sections of PVC and auger together so it's modular or at least a permanent installation in the haul tunnel. Obviously this would involve some expense but it would be a lot more automated and less back work.
@ide5587
@ide5587 2 жыл бұрын
I love the sandland video's! Great job :)
@alec4672
@alec4672 2 жыл бұрын
I just stumbled across this channel, watched the FTA TV video, the lil mini tank stair climber, but then I saw this and instantly subbed. This is some intense work holy crap. Plus it's absolutely gorgeous inside I can't wait to see some permanent lighting in that bar and such.
@saveitforparts
@saveitforparts 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I'm still dragging my heels on the utility tunnel for wiring, it's a bit cramped. Maybe some time this summer we'll get lights in there!
@alec4672
@alec4672 2 жыл бұрын
@@saveitforparts I don't live to close by, but I do live in northern Wisconsin and it'd be very cool to check this out for a few days and help out I think! I'll have to contact him through the Facebook group!
@saveitforparts
@saveitforparts 2 жыл бұрын
@@alec4672 Sounds good! The owner has been busy with some projects (future video probably), but yeah shoot him a message!
@PhysicsPolice
@PhysicsPolice 2 жыл бұрын
The bar is really coming together! Love these sand land videos.
@mightymicroworlds4566
@mightymicroworlds4566 Жыл бұрын
And you are going to survive the apocalypse no joke haha
@benhansen6308
@benhansen6308 2 жыл бұрын
Stopped in the other day and had a beer, love the space and looking forward to coming back!
@a-a-ron2336
@a-a-ron2336 2 жыл бұрын
You need a grain auger ✌️
@jopollmann
@jopollmann 2 жыл бұрын
cool video as always
@markbuilds
@markbuilds 2 жыл бұрын
Love the sand land videos
@M.TTT.
@M.TTT. 2 жыл бұрын
"dumpster booze" lol, haven't heard of that one before.
@M.TTT.
@M.TTT. 2 жыл бұрын
holy cow, its huge under there, lotta tunnels
@devinsullivan6160
@devinsullivan6160 2 жыл бұрын
For moving the sand; I was thinking of a flexible shaft with a continuous inclined plane around it. Run inside a pipe of a similar ID as the screws OD, it would work like a grain conveyor or similar. The disadvantage I think would be the need for a 2-10hp electric motor which would weigh a great deal, or a gear reduction; to deal with large amounts, or large distances.
@saveitforparts
@saveitforparts 2 жыл бұрын
Something like a grain conveyor should work. We've been reluctant to invest in a whole new system since the train and wagons work, they're just slow. That's why I occasionally dabble in "cheap" alternatives.
@michaellichter4091
@michaellichter4091 Жыл бұрын
A man, a sandstone cave. In summer, when it's 40 degrees Celsius outside, it's pleasantly cool inside the sandstone cave.
@saveitforparts
@saveitforparts Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's nice underground year-round!
@mightymicroworlds4566
@mightymicroworlds4566 Жыл бұрын
Haha good intro 😂
@greenstash
@greenstash 2 жыл бұрын
Frikkkin Awesome like always
@-NGC-6302-
@-NGC-6302- 2 жыл бұрын
I’d love to go see sandland in a couple years Western Wisconsin, right? I’m not too far from there for a comfortable drive
@WeyounLP
@WeyounLP 2 жыл бұрын
do you think you could make the walls extremely smooth if you tried, or would it always be rough due to larger chunks breaking off?
@saveitforparts
@saveitforparts 2 жыл бұрын
I'm sure I could smooth the walls out, I just like the rough look (and I'm lazy :-D )
@tethron.
@tethron. 2 жыл бұрын
awesome! that's a cool bar area and the tunnels look good. I wonder how much pressure those rock walls can hold.
@luacssdfdfdsgfdsggfdfdhg4187
@luacssdfdfdsgfdsggfdfdhg4187 2 жыл бұрын
damn cool
@Rebar77_real
@Rebar77_real 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder how sensitive you could get an array of diy seismometer. Heh heh. Probably just some beams flexing with the thaw though.
@K1ZEK
@K1ZEK 2 жыл бұрын
I like the cave videos, but I do get a little nervous that I would get lost. All kidding aside I would be scared shit-less to go in there. I'm to scared to even say LOL. 73 Leo
@mattmarks9076
@mattmarks9076 11 ай бұрын
Do you think you could do like a comparison video on the temperature in the winter time end in the summertime in the caves
@saveitforparts
@saveitforparts 11 ай бұрын
It stays pretty constant, but I could try to do some measurements at different times to verify.
@thegodgen
@thegodgen 2 жыл бұрын
u know u sound like uxwbill lol. thats a complement
@SimoWill75
@SimoWill75 2 жыл бұрын
My money is on that tree.
@Coastwiser
@Coastwiser 2 жыл бұрын
You broke your mirror? Seven years bad luck there a mutton chops.
@MrUnder30seconds
@MrUnder30seconds Жыл бұрын
convier belt
@saveitforparts
@saveitforparts Жыл бұрын
The sand would eat the mechanism pretty quickly, we need something like a vacuum system.
@MrUnder30seconds
@MrUnder30seconds Жыл бұрын
@@saveitforparts ahh ok, i see, a conveyor belt would not go round corners anyway and is a complex thing to build. i put some thought into it for you, how about using a water bilge pump to circulate water thru pipes which carries sand with it. the arabs built huge islands by squirting tons of sand thru pipes with water.
@halburd1
@halburd1 2 жыл бұрын
lol you sure waste a lot of time trying to save a little bit of work.
@saveitforparts
@saveitforparts 2 жыл бұрын
If we can move the sand another way, we'd potentially save hours of labor in the future, plus wear and tear on the wagons, train, winch, etc. It would also speed up digging, since right now we have to wait for the sand to be removed and that puts a bottleneck on how fast we can make more tunnels.
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