Definitely impressive how they've done this deal that appears to have evaded everyone esle...

Agree 100%. This nails a huge market need for consumers and elegantly supports the Apple ecosystem.

Ive only used Djay and dabbled with Serato. I used to feel guilty about not using Serato because “everyone” uses it. But i learned years ago to not gaf. Djay is user friendly and has all of the goodies that Serato has. I’m an apple guy and it’s beautiful to me.

And has BeatPort, BeatSource and SoundCloud support

Totally agreed. I used it exclusively from 2008 until now, but I did add VDJ to the stable last in 2023.

That is definitely a huge selling point here

Yeah, it seems a good thing for both Apple and djay.

There is an option now I notice to stop it messing with your artwork and metadata, that wasn't there before, would be interested to know if anyone has experimented with that.

@@digitaldjtips It has never messed with my meta data. (mp3tags) Only thing itunes/music app does is resorting your tracks if you tick this option in preferences.

where is the option?@@digitaldjtips

you're welcome Carlos

You're welcome! It is exactly people like you, with month, years or even decades of music in iTunes (ie Apple Music) who I feel will truly benefit from this.

Yeah, even for that use and that use alone, it's great!

You are so welcome!

Yeah, it's pretty amazing to see it in DJ software!

It is - a truly mainstream streaming service i a DJ app once again

More toys to play with!

Very good point regarding Apple Vision Pro.

As someone else said, it is probably a lot to do with Vision Pro too.

Sounds like you're having a lot of fun embracing all the digital music tools there Wes!

@@digitaldjtips hahah for sure, it’s been years in the making, and part of that through your channel. Idk how anyone that presses the buttons would get anything done without an “integrated” workflow.

Good policy!

Works both ways so no problem. But at the end of the day this is targeted at the djs that are in the apple box so to speak and the future.

@@ItsWesSmithYo It works on Djay Pro for Windows as well.

Good point, although there's absolutely no advantage to playing your own music from the cloud other than not having to switch tabs, and plenty of disadvantages.

It could indeed but I don’t think they will target such a niche professional market unfortunately

Yes, we announced it and published the winners!

Thanks for the feedback!

Yeah, you could well be right! Will give it a go :)

Guess you're an Apple Music user right?

@@digitaldjtipsalmost @@digitaldjtips10,000@@digitaldjtips

@@digitaldjtips I replied extensively to this but couldn’t find it anywhere here. It only says “Highlighted Reply”. What happened, please?

@@digitaldjtips Absolutely, 100%! As an ardent Apple fan, my journey with graphic design dates back to the late '80s, reveling in the instant creativity of manipulating typography. As a creative individual, I seamlessly embraced Digital DJing when MP3s and related formats rose to prominence in the early 2000s. The evolution of technology allowed DJs to transition from vinyl and CD setups to digital files, offering unparalleled flexibility and accessibility. Retiring from DJing about 14 years ago, I rediscovered the Djay app two years back, amazed by its transformation, especially with the groundbreaking neural mix integration. This innovation felt akin to the invention of wheels, signifying a transformative moment in the DJing world. Since then, I've returned to professional DJing, performing in Canada, the USA, Jamaica, and soon, Turkey. My extensive use of iTunes and iPods since their inception has cultivated an almost expert knowledge of the Music app. I had hoped for integration with Djay Pro, and now, with access to over 10,000 songs I've saved over the years, my DJ software has become a treasure trove. However, the unfortunate limitation on neural mix capabilities poses a challenge to my preferred mixing technique. Also, the prospect of reverting DJ remixes to original versions is a bit disheartening. I'm actively seeking solutions and will share any breakthroughs for others to benefit. Before I conclude, I must express my admiration. You're not only a trailblazer in the DJing world but also tirelessly dedicated, compassionate about DJing, and genuinely committed to helping people. Your teaching methods in the course I purchased are the epitome of easy-to-follow steps, facilitating perfection in learning. Thank you for your invaluable contributions!

Yes!

Ha, because you'd rather have a play with this?

Would be cool!

No single place, unfortunately, you have to shop around

No stems with Apple though

Good to know that's your experience, I had too many times when this did not happen to trust it unfortunately. All they need is a "do not match" toggle on tracks, but I doubt Apple will ever add it.

@@digitaldjtips The only time a song is "Matched" is if it is exactly the same as the track available for streaming. If there's an intro, outro, or anything in between that makes it significantly different, it will upload, rather than match. I've loaded my entire DJ library into Apple Music and have been using it successfully for the past 6 months. The addition of streaming within DJay Pro is very welcome for how I have things set up.

@@digitaldjtips What you might try is to extend your special tracks to more that 1hr ( could be silence) than it should not match

@@djmavewave4794 same experience for me for several years now

Where in the world are you Luke?

@@digitaldjtips Australia. Tracks were legally downloaded from Beatport too.

OMG WHAT!? That's a MASSIVE DEALBREAKER. If you're touring and or you have iTunes/Apple Music accounts in more than one region this absolutely bricks the system and is a HARD NO GO.

Fair enough!

Yes!

Cool

Thank you

That would definitely work! It is still in SoundCloud, Beatport and Beatsource as far as we know... for now.

We’re in the club

Same with me, I always saw the potential in Djay

We even wrote a book about it back in the day

@@digitaldjtips bruv your channel has always been for the good of the peoples DJ. Keep it poppin 🤙🏽

Good tip, thanks for sharing

Yeah that hack is one way to do it

Mac is better than PC, the Windows and Android apps tend to lag behind features-wise.

Lots of people would love that for sure

Don’t think so

Nice thinking thanks for sharing your solution

No point cancelling immediately, give your three months a go and see how it is for you! Mine is only one voice.

Thanks for sharing you choice and experience

Isn't that so often the case!

@@digitaldjtips Always!! I be like I got everything and anything and then someone comes and is like "YOOOOO play that new Taylor Swift" and Im like noooooooooo!

Yes, it is a drawback for sure.

We should run a test

So make a duplicate of your itunes library, and if the track gets matched and replaced, reload the original from my duplicate library? Can this be done on the fly? or pre/post set only? My goodness this seems cumbersome.. I think im gonna steer clear until this bug is fixed...

From what I understand though you're only replacing the copy on your main device, but it won't put the correct copy on all your devices, will it?

@@digitaldjtips it does not replace anything on your drives. Worst thing could be a mismatch in the cloud

@@papi_roisterous It’s Better If You Do It Previously But Works Somewhat Fast.

@@digitaldjtips It’ll Do It. It’ll Push The Correct Track To The Other Devices.

You can have your own music on this software too, yes

@@digitaldjtips Many thanks! Cheers.

Yes, it is a shame it doesn't work with Apple Music

Before you do a gig, you most likely want to download all your music, and get it arranged to how you wanna play it that night anyways. Having Internet at a club, is a plus, if you wanna add more to your set, but always be prepared before you do your set anyways.

We don’t think streaming should be seen as an either/or, but at the same time we think they should offer offline caching as some of the streaming services do

@@digitaldjtips Strange thing is in the Music app you can play downloaded tracks offline, but it seems they don't play in Djay.

We agree, it's one of the big things we want from Algoriddim - treat controller compatibility as a ground zero item.

@@digitaldjtips in my experience works with all midi controllers.

Like 250,000 song capacity on a maxed iPad Pro 😂

Yes, if the controller works with djay Pro.

If you want to use stems you just buy the track.

No

Doubt it, it'll be 256 AAC is my guess.

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clues in the name streaming!

No

That's because you're using iCloud to play them, you have to upload to your device and play the "old" way to record.

Yes! Just not with Neural Mix

@@digitaldjtipsYou answered before I added your name, thank you!

update? or not logged into?

It's not Tidal, it's the record companies, and the same restrictions apply to Apple Music.

There are updates to Tidal's subscription tiers. For regular users, the Hi-Fi Plus tier is being eliminated, and its benefits will now be included in a single $10.99 per month Tidal tier. However, for those using Tidal for DJ purposes, there will be an additional $9 monthly charge. Former Hi-Fi Plus subscribers will continue to pay $19.99 per month, but those previously on the Hi-Fi tier using DJ software will now face an extra $9 monthly fee. Apple Music remains at $10.99 per month for now, giving it an advantage for DJay Pro users. It's worth pondering if other DJ apps will integrate Apple Music and whether Apple will introduce an additional DJ tier in response to label requirements or for added benefits.

Yes, of course

Library is, for us, a weak point of djay. you can transfer the music from laptop to iPhone using Apple's Music app which is the preferred way, with a USB cable.

@@digitaldjtips thanks! If I can expand…. My music is on an SSD so won’t be transferring any files from MacBook to iPhone. I’ve just started (in the last hour) building playlists and importing music into ‘music’ on the MacBook. I’ve set it NOT to make copies of my music on the MacBook internal drive… only want to use ‘music’ as a library. Ok… so DJay on the MacBook instantly sees these playlists, great so far. Then I go onto my phone (the same SSD containing the music is connected) but the music app says there is nothing there. It seems I might need to tell the music app on my phone that I want to use the external storage…. Can anybody tell me how to do this? : ) All I want (if Apple Music / iTunes is the way to go)… is to build playlists on my MacBook that will work in Djay on the MacBook AND on my phone when I plug the same SSD into either device.

@@digitaldjtips I’ve just had a conversation with the guy who makes the ‘DJCU’ DJ conversion utility, and he’s confirmed that the IOS and MAC OS Djay library files are not compatible. So that at least means I don’t need to continue thinking it must be an issue with my file paths etc. His utility can convert IOS Djay library files to MAC Apple Music (iTunes) playlists but not the other way around… for anybody reading who is interested.

It is I agree 100%!

No

@@digitaldjtips that’s a definite deal breaker for me and probably most DJs then. You can’t trust a wireless internet connection to work when you are at the venue

The video shows you how

I can. Even in mixed playlist in Djay that are composed of Apple streaming tracks and local tracks

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Stems are disabled with Apple Music for all music, owned and streamed. Didn't try toggling on and off but yeah, that'd probably work too - thanks!

Good question, I am sure you can but not sure how.

You can but it is an all or nothing setting you do through your AppleID. Essentially, think parental controls and you turn on the explicit filter which blocks all explicit content. Another and much more tedious way is to tag your songs in some way Clean/Dirty and then use smart lists to ensure you have all clean music.

One day we will all miss Spotify if they don’t start making a profit 😂

No, of course you can't!

How can I upload my DJ mixes to KZfaq without copyright how do DJs get arrested copyright on KZfaq in 2024 with the KZfaq control id getting smart every day and I can't contact the artist directly because I don't have Instagram or Facebook all I have is email

Maybe try again a bit later

Sniffy? Me?

It's not Tidal, it's the record companies.

@@digitaldjtips fuck them too then!! They had my money but now they get notbingggggg 🤷‍♂️

I love Apple Music, but that’s one thing Beatport does when it comes to DJ’s. Algorithm does tell you all that when you download it into its software, then you just arrange it from there.

Not until you’ve analysed the tracks

@@digitaldjtips I’m wondering if Apple would make a separate app for DJs, like it’s made a separate app for classical music.

On Apple Music meta data no, but dJay does it immediately on load so no big deal. It also basically mixes for you 😂

Yeah, thanks to you and everyone else who pointed this out. I usually miss something obvious in these First Looks...

No, that's true

Yeah, agreed

Good point actually, how cool would it be to have streaming music videos...

Thanks

It is the same as it ever was though

Spotify gets their punishment every 1/4 on the earnings calls, if that makes you feel any better 😂

It's definitely a coup for Djay

Mixcloud

No, becoming the norm in streaming I suspect

@@digitaldjtips stems is the future

@@digitaldjtips what about on Beatport?

Care to share some of them with us?