We don't deserve DF Retro, it's too good

John's videos are vastly superior to the rest of DF.

@@ionseven nah Matthew is a star

@@ionseven did you really have to say that

@@totty2524 I deserve it, and more

same, when I was a kid I wanted to play motocross madness but couldnt even get it to install cause it didnt detect 3d hardware, finally got an SIS 6326 and was able to play it and I also played Star Wars Dark forces 2 and was blown away..............then I was mind blown when I upgraded to a voodoo2 lol cause I went from playing carmageddon 2 at 20 fps with the sis 6326 to about 80 fps with the voodoo 2 lol.I still own these cards too

I remember playing Unreal 1 in software mode for the longest time until the day arrived where I could finally afford an accelerator. It was a Voodoo card and going from software to GPU rendering was like stepping into an entirely different world.

As a kid it was amazing! Back then my sister's boyfriend installed a 3DFX card on our PC and the graphics got so good. My first experience was on NFSIII. I ended up playing that game so much I memorized all the tracks shortcuts and speed lines.

@@conyo985 Im glad I kept all my old 3dfx cards lol. I have a box full of them

@@kyles8524 haha, its little bit frighting because I got exactly the same expierence. I started with onboard SIS 6326 that I later upgraded to Voodoo 2. My mindblowing games were: NFS 2, DF2 and the og UT. Transition from 2d to software 3d and to glide 3d is something revolutionary. In my opinion even virtual goggles won't be so influential for gaming like graphic accelerators.

I dont know by 99 you were expecting it to run and hopefully run fast. The shit not being compatible era was more like 2 years earlier.

@@Games-tt9hu Maybe for Quake and Unreal Tournament players, but most PC players by 1999 were happy to just run the game at decent settings and resolution. Graphics tech was moving so fast from the late 90s to mid 2000s that trying to run games at super fast framerates were not a top priority for most PC gamers. In those days PC gamers dabbling on the high end were trying to run games at max graphical settings at 30 fps which was usually preferable to running the same game at lower settings at 60 fps. PC gamers back then were more interested in experiencing cutting edge graphics than higher performance, only fast paced shooters were the exception where higher framerates were more desirable.

Back then I was just happy that games like Unreal Tournament, Half-Life, The Sims, Starcraft, Need for Speed III, Quake II, and such could run on my crappy PC.

@@03chrisv yeah I can confirm, at least in my experience. Most of the PC gamers and nerds I knew in high school back then (right before consumer GPU'S) were playing simulators, RTS games, top-down 2D shooters or dungeon crawlers and were OK with the 15 fps or whatever their shit ran at back then. When I got my first computer that could run games with texture filtering at 60fps my mind was absolutely blown! And it had a 3dfx Voodoo card, which wasn't even classified as a GPU. Seeing normal mapping, bump mapping, real-time shadows and high poly counts on a GeForce card later was equally mind-blowing! These days, you're not considered a serious PC gamer unless you drop $3k or more on your rig, which is fairly common. That's not even counting the price of your 240hz OLED monitor. The debate quickly becomes classist and about status symbols.

That was true in the mid 90s. And even then people were making fun of the S3 Virge as a graphics decelerator.

Not to mention that the GeForce 256 still sells for quite a bit of money :-D

$299 in 1999 is the equivalent today of $518 when calculated for inflation. Given the 256 was at launch the top tier card, yeah I would have been laughed at by my father for asking for the equivalent of the top tier today (which I consider to be the 3080ti, as the 3090/3090ti are overkill for the price). I did manage to get a voodoo1 card back in the 90s though , which was impressive enough. I think I jumped to the getorce 2 or 3 after that skipped the 256 entirely.

There's something about old games and old gpus that brings a smile on my face.

@@alangeorge5592 Nostalgia.

@@ebridgewater Also the fact that nowadays the games have amazing graphics but they still don't appeal to me as much as the old low poly graphics.

@@alangeorge5592 Cause most of these games feels like copy paste of templates, cashgrabs, filled with microtransactions and dlcs and requiring patches [since the game is broken on launch date] and shit like that. Not to mention, the artstyle of many of these current games look cartoonish compared to older games where textures had grit and looked realistic.

@@RiasatSalminSami yeah, I could play a game from 90s or early 2000s for hours, but get so bored playing today's games even after 1 hour.

Hug me mate. Nothing can beat a 16MB AGP card. I remember playing a game Hell in Vietnam and it was like a multichrome scatter fest. Good old days.

well you can spend a fortune on a pc today too. just got a email from a local store that a 3090 is available for 3500e ridiculous.

Correction my good sir, It was amazing at the time.

Not only seemed, it WAS amazing at the time!

First pc I had was my father's Pentium 1 way before Nvidia stuff...

Yeah, these days things are moving so slowly.

And price too LMAO

@@Aggrofool Well, the GeForce 2 GTS launched for around $350-400, that's roughly $600-650 for inflation. The MSRP of an RTX 3080 was around $750? So not much more expensive I guess...

@@Diablokiller999 but the street price is much more inflated now :(

@@wanhl2440 Sure, but that's another topic why it's like that and not compareable to 20 years ago. But NV and AMD listened, they will surely increase MSRP for the next generation, if Intel is not up to the fight.

@@Diablokiller999 yeah it was reasonable until the recent explosion in price, if ethereum becomes unminable tho we're in for some very cheap gpus later this year, thats for sure

I remember hearing that someone was able to use a the VRAM on a Quadro to run Doom 2016 or something like that.

It made a big difference. I had a Geforce GTS 32MB and my friend had the 64MB with the same CPU setup and he would get 5 to 10 FPS higher than me at 1024x768 in most games.

@@IgoByaGo I didn’t know anything about computer hardware back then. It essentially boiled down to 64>32 and it was within my budget. But I guess it made a difference :)

Quake II was the first game I've tried after buying the 3dfx Voodoo 2 in the summer of 1998. I was totally blown away by it. Both the graphical fidelity and the framerate were out of this world. I soon got my hands on Unreal and it was just as advertised... unreal!

Imagine buying a graphics card to play a orange and brown game with low res everything but faster.

LOL, how much did you pay? I had a 32mb Riva TNT2. Probably my most favorite card.

@@nexxusty Same, it's too long ago to remember what I paid.

@@HouseNorwayBear Aww, yeah I guess I can say the same. I THINK I paid $175. Not positive. So many memories with that card though.

Told my parents it was needed to run word xD

@@incubator2k3 Ahah, well done

Did you ever play that demo game Dagoth Moor Zoological Gardens? I was blown away by that card when I bought it in 1999 and saw T&L being utilized by the hardware.

​@@NorweegI did! It looked incredible. It reminded me of Morowind but with more color. Some tech demos were designed to resemble some popular or upcoming games. With the name "Dagoth Moor" I'm sure they were thinking of Morrowind. It's main villain was Dagoth Ur. Morrowind was also known for its use of shaders like the water FX, but this tech demo was a little more trippy and colorful.

Here here

We've come so far that often we need a side-by-side to understand the latest improvement, they're subtler now. Diminishing returns!

I had a 466mhz celeron and thought it was the shit, until I bought a GeForce 2 and unlocked its full potential lol

@@Genkaku What was the stock card, or onboard video? GF2 was very popular, I remember. I was a 3Dfx fanboy (Rush, 3, 5, and I actually had a Voodoo2 for Glide support in old games later on) but I don't need to dig up ancient benchmarks to remind you that the GeForce2 > Voodoo5 in terms of performance. I wanted the somewhat more vibrant and smooth 32-bit color support (not to mention a fantastic early version of Anti-Aliasing) offered by the Voodoo5, but IIRC GF2 had a consistent 10-20% framerate advantage. The first Radeon card dropped around then too.

Subtle slap in the face to Tom eh

@@TranscendentPhoenix Tom is great

The other staff are uninteresting.

@@boffifis1 apparently the op doesn't think so. Lol

Trident too lol

yeah except the difference was all the graphics cards sucked and where largely incompatible.... the times before i had a geforce 2 where largely painful ... before that only the voodoo card i had seemed to have any decent support, Power VR cards and the ati Rage where mistakes i made

@@DarkShroom nvidia, ati and 3dfx had good drivers (usually) had ati rage 128 and played the hell of everything.

@Ali Cuntë yes i know about ati drivers, they had 16bit colour issues and later on ogl issues. But on my case they were awesome Ati rage 128 Ati x200 x300 x600 X800 Amd 4830 270x 580

My first GPU was a Voodoo 2 also :) going from Quake 2 software rendering to OpenGL was mind blowing

@@mrburns366 yes it was incredible - the sharper, cleaner textures, amazing frame rates - completely transformed the playing experience. Some of the 3DFX enhanced games had additional graphical features also.

"so switched to console gaming after that" Not all Stories can end well ;) But jokes aside, the prices weren't that bad back then. Plus not that many games really needed the best graphics card, so I was a happy PC and Console gamer.

@@lhb82 Should've mentioned I was a teenager and had to convince Mom to buy the stuff until I could started earning myself at 16 and got the Radeon. I'm also in Canada - not too many deals around these parts in those days. 😂

Makes no sense to go from dx8 8500 to a dx7 gf2. Maybe you had a 7500, but if you didn't, that was a terrible downgrade.

The crisp look of the textures in comparison with the blurry 3DFX look was noticeable. I remember playing Need for Speed - Hot Pursuit on this card, great times🤗