DF Retro Extra: Sony PSP vs Nintendo DS at E3 2004! The Console War That Defined Mobile Gaming

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Nintendo DS vs Sony PSP - when these two handhelds debuted at E3 2004, it looked like the most one-sided console war ever, but history would go on to tell a very different story. Join John and Rich for this look back over the reveal of two very different mobile devices, each of which would help define the template of handheld gaming - right up until today.
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@amansaxena5898
@amansaxena5898 4 жыл бұрын
In countries where Nintendo didn't had official presence (India), PSP was extremely popular. So popular, that my parents and sisters calls my Switch a PSP
@harsharip
@harsharip 9 ай бұрын
Yeah its 2023, still I don't understand why Switch is not yet available in India officially. I only play on Switch I have PC as well but that Nintendo magic.
@blitzerblazinoah6838
@blitzerblazinoah6838 7 ай бұрын
​@@harsharippiracy for one. Nintendo got their hands burnt with the Samurai NES and I suspect import tariffs might be an issue.
@Akechi_The_Phantom_Detective
@Akechi_The_Phantom_Detective 6 жыл бұрын
Those consoles were the golden age of handheld gaming. For me it was never a competition because each console tried to do something different and stand out rather than copy each other. The PSP was the first console to bring the home console experience to a handheld by offering high quality games, a multi-media experience and a PS store before the App Store was even a thing. The DS on the other hand was Nintendo building on a core design the GBA set before it and taking it to the next level, it was the cheaper console but that dual screen utility is something developers all over the world adored and it created a platform for many amazing games. These consoles are why I love handheld gaming and I can never stop thanking them for it.
@StarLasers
@StarLasers 6 жыл бұрын
Actor Adam Anouer well said, great generation of handhelds
@Akechi_The_Phantom_Detective
@Akechi_The_Phantom_Detective 6 жыл бұрын
Bless you buddy. :) Already rep these 2.
@wordout2213
@wordout2213 6 жыл бұрын
Actor Adam Anouer well Said.
@Akechi_The_Phantom_Detective
@Akechi_The_Phantom_Detective 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks dude, these consoles are irreplacable and I think anyone who's seen them when they came out can see that.
@BananaMana69
@BananaMana69 6 жыл бұрын
The DS also was very multiplayer oriented. DS download play was amazing. With a lot of games you only needed 1 copy and you could play multiplayer. Not to mention the novelty of that little chat room where you could connect to your friends and draw stuff. Or playing Animal crossing and joining each other's towns. Pokemon diamond and pearl with their underground multiplayer crystal mining thing. I have so many memories of playing DS with my friends.
@g33xzi11a
@g33xzi11a 4 жыл бұрын
"It probably felt like a lifetime" We need more of these. Richard's personality really shines through.
@DebugMenu
@DebugMenu 6 жыл бұрын
I remember importing my PSP from Lik-Sang back in the day. Kinda sad that Sony eventually sued them into oblivion for exporting PSPs worldwide. I miss Lik-Sang :(
@RichardLarge88
@RichardLarge88 6 жыл бұрын
Lance McDonald I got mine from a Chinese seller on eBay. I created the eBay account specifically for it and it's took a month for PayPal to verify my account. I'd won the bid but they'd only ship once I paid with a certified account. Still.. a month later it arrived, felt like I had a device from the future.
@VSTMAN1337
@VSTMAN1337 6 жыл бұрын
I assume you're meaning profit
@RichardLarge88
@RichardLarge88 6 жыл бұрын
Kjngpjn Nah he definitely has Ezikiel living in his basement. It's ok though, he doesn't make much mess.
@MoviesNGames007uk
@MoviesNGames007uk 6 жыл бұрын
The battery 🔋 life was the only thing I didn't like about my PSP 😔
@SirSavesALot1977
@SirSavesALot1977 6 жыл бұрын
I did that too, I got a white Japanese PSP-1000 from them. 😊
@maddinenih01
@maddinenih01 6 жыл бұрын
Still have my PSP 3000. What a machine it is. Still works like a gem and the battery still last 6hrs. Havent changed it at all. With soft mods makes it an awesome retro machine that can emulate most older games i.e. snes, nes gba etc. Loving these video series btw!
@tobsmonster2
@tobsmonster2 6 ай бұрын
Still have my Japanese launch 1000. Works, but sometimes the dpad gets stuck left
@Xgen001
@Xgen001 6 жыл бұрын
Honestly both handhelds were so great for their time, truly the best era of handhelds. Sadly with smartphones we will never see such devotion to pure handheld gaming again. The DS lite straight up had over 15 hours of battery life. It's funny how people mocked the PSP over its 5 hour battery, but nowadays the switch can only push 3. Both devices are still absolutely worth owning today and each have an amazing library of games to play. Here's hoping the switch can live up to such a grand legacy.
@abibirawa4119
@abibirawa4119 6 жыл бұрын
Of course, if you play snake, minesweeper, solitaire or something of the like LOL I'd still take god of war for 4-5 hours :p
@mpforeverunlimited
@mpforeverunlimited 4 жыл бұрын
The vita and 3ds were on the market for like 7 years
@lorumipsum1129
@lorumipsum1129 4 жыл бұрын
Xgen001 now the switch can push 9 and the 3ds can push 12 hours
@iKickBullies
@iKickBullies 4 жыл бұрын
@@mpforeverunlimited Vita and PSP were mainly marketed for Teens and adults. But they said they'd rather home consoles until all of a sudden it's a complete switch when the switch drops and it's. But I can play on the go lol
@mizurazu2500
@mizurazu2500 4 жыл бұрын
Stop playing Botw with max brightness. For offline games I always enable airplane mode as well. I get more than 3 hours out of the system.
@JRPGGUY
@JRPGGUY 6 жыл бұрын
The PSP introduced me to so many franchises i love. Monster Hunter and Persona come to mind
@fulviorock
@fulviorock 6 жыл бұрын
Game Head MH was introduced on PS2, not sure about persona bit I think it also came on PS2 first
@Daigon95
@Daigon95 6 жыл бұрын
+Fulvio Narciso Well no shit. lol He's saying tht the system introduced him to the series', he didnt say it started on there.
@meditalisoo7
@meditalisoo7 6 жыл бұрын
Fulvio Narciso Persona started on PS1
@ernjdasdd
@ernjdasdd 6 жыл бұрын
Game Head mon hun
@Akechi_The_Phantom_Detective
@Akechi_The_Phantom_Detective 6 жыл бұрын
Oh Freedom Unite, how could I ever forget a game that reduced me to tears and took so many hours of my life. The memories bro... not going to lie Portable 3rd was pretty amazing too.
@ghost085
@ghost085 6 жыл бұрын
I love how you roast these old conferences, it's like watching Beavis and Butthead when they made fun of music videos LOL
@Hijynx87
@Hijynx87 6 жыл бұрын
The psp was mind blowing, I remember playing Tony Hawks Underground 2 and Twisted Metal and just being dumbfounded.
@MahoganyBlack
@MahoganyBlack 6 жыл бұрын
The time I had with my PSP was amazing! I got Kingdom Hearts, Dissidia Final Fantasy, Metal Gear, and Crisis Core. The last game being only playable on my PSP as far as I know. It may not have done as well as the DS but it was my handheld of choice at the time. An excellent piece of hardware
@terryhungate1052
@terryhungate1052 4 жыл бұрын
Oooohhhhh yes little Johnny ooohhhh yesss grandpa very much pleased
@ekefon1
@ekefon1 Жыл бұрын
I got good news for you ...
@Zeryth960
@Zeryth960 6 жыл бұрын
Watching this with my psp laying on my table 50cm away from me. Such a glorious device.
@gabbytoyreview7359
@gabbytoyreview7359 6 жыл бұрын
"kicking ass and taking names" god damn you reggie lol
@colemin2
@colemin2 4 жыл бұрын
Rip Reggie.
@turtleanton6539
@turtleanton6539 3 жыл бұрын
He was a legend
@turtleanton6539
@turtleanton6539 3 жыл бұрын
@@colemin2 he is alive iwata is ripping
@LeonSKennedy7777
@LeonSKennedy7777 2 жыл бұрын
I’m holding out for the day when a grizzled, grey-beard Reggie (with an eye patch) returns as Nintendo’s Frontman… but I’m wearily losing hope by the day
@jedixo
@jedixo 6 жыл бұрын
the psp, the most successful non-Nintendo portable console
@MIBxSpartan
@MIBxSpartan 4 жыл бұрын
jedixo The PSP + Monster hunter freedom 2/Unite might of been the best games ever made for a portable.
@metacube9913
@metacube9913 4 жыл бұрын
@@MIBxSpartan MH games on PSP were hot garbage dude
@lirfrank
@lirfrank 4 жыл бұрын
@@metacube9913 Certainly hard to go back
@teacherfromthejungles6671
@teacherfromthejungles6671 4 жыл бұрын
@@metacube9913 these games were the reason the psp was so popular in Japan
@brandenlucero
@brandenlucero 4 жыл бұрын
I take it you've never heard of Tiger Electronics. Almost every kid had a portable Tiger handheld. They were garbage, but they were cheap.
@junbird
@junbird 6 жыл бұрын
I remember when the idea of Reggie being this tough, intimidating badass was basically a meme within the gaming community. There was this magazine I used to buy in the mid 2000s which joked about it pretty often. His public image really changed since then. i think the switch happened in 2007 or so. Btw, I found it funny how much cooler the prototype of the DS looks compared to the final product. I really like the first model of the ds, but I think it was really ugly looking, especially because of all of those holes for the audio. I would have really preferred that other design. Also, I think that the Wii still wasn't that well finalized at this point. Iwata in this conference said that they didn't want to focus on power, but he also said something like "don't worry, the graphics will still make you say "wow"". I think that they originally didn't intended to rehash the GameCube hardware. Some former Factor 5 employees confirm this theory: since they were working close to Nintendo back then, they had access to some of the first prototypes of the Revolution and apparently those were as powerful as the Xbox 360, more or less. Also, in one of his GDC talks, Iwata stated that back in 2004 they still didn't know precisely how they wanted the Revolution to be "revolutionary", they still had to design the Wiimote. So I suspect that the name of the "Revolution" wasn't a reference to its technology, but to its intent (which was to lure non-gamer to gaming).
@mbe102
@mbe102 6 жыл бұрын
DF Retro could easily be its own dedicated channel. It deserves that, in my opinion. DF Retro is to the then, what NoClip is to the now. I should also add that My Life in Gaming is DF Retro's own DigitalFoundry, more like AnalogFoundry, and then some!!!
@bobcharlotte8724
@bobcharlotte8724 6 жыл бұрын
Stadium ARTs analog foundry! Love it!
@pelgervampireduck
@pelgervampireduck 6 жыл бұрын
I only watch the "retro" videos, I don't care about the other content, so I would totally subscribe and watch the df retro channel.
@BLVDKillz
@BLVDKillz 6 жыл бұрын
Channel not big enough so that'll be unnecessary
@j.d.6915
@j.d.6915 6 жыл бұрын
I doubt they release enough Retro content to justify splitting the channel up.
@SwornHeresy
@SwornHeresy 6 жыл бұрын
I watch Digital Foundry on occasion, but I consistently watch their retro videos. No idea why they haven't made a second channel dedicated to it.
@abc123a5
@abc123a5 6 жыл бұрын
I remember playing nintendo ds as a teen and it was so cool having nintendo 64 graphics on a handheld in 2004.
@miecraftandmoregames
@miecraftandmoregames 6 жыл бұрын
satoru iwata was a gem
@AtomicBoo
@AtomicBoo 6 жыл бұрын
darsirious yes he was and I thank him everything he did for the industry especially smash (he saved the development of the original smash) but he was the cause of Nintendo's darker days, I'm talking about shovelware and Wii u, gimmicks and bad kid marketing
@miecraftandmoregames
@miecraftandmoregames 6 жыл бұрын
yes i am aware, but i choose to value him more as a person, gamer, game developer, and all around a very capable person on every aspect of hardware and software than marketing. i choose to see the light rather than the dark.
@VezixHaikal
@VezixHaikal 4 жыл бұрын
@@AtomicBoo yeap, but man he's one person that really does learn from his mistakes and pull a 180 at the end
@misaeltoral508
@misaeltoral508 5 жыл бұрын
The PSP was truly ahead of its time. I remember owning three of them (don’t ask why) and it was so much more than a video game console. I often used it as a music player, to browse the internet and yes, I watched movies on the damn thing. It was an amazing device.
@paleaura2327
@paleaura2327 2 жыл бұрын
why
@Nailfut
@Nailfut 6 жыл бұрын
I'd listen to an entire Iwata retrospective
@chrisrichfield8906
@chrisrichfield8906 6 жыл бұрын
didyouknowgaming did an excellent one around the time of his passing.
@Nailfut
@Nailfut 6 жыл бұрын
Chris Richfield I knew that, thanks! I just ask for different perspectives, also because I'll never get bored of listening to the man's life
@HarryTheGreekGamer
@HarryTheGreekGamer 6 жыл бұрын
The PSP was really ahead of it's time, I remember the last game that I bought before moving on was SOCOM: Fire Team bravo 3 and it was for just 10 dollars/euros (back when they were launching the Essentials titles) Now for the next DF Retro video. It would be interesting to look back at the Xbox 360 reveal (as you guys stated near the end.) or even the whole Xbox One debacle reveal in 2013.
@Noah-Lach
@Noah-Lach 4 жыл бұрын
HarryTheGreekGamer Fireteam Bravo 3 was an amazing game. FTB2 was fun too if not for the horrible performance issues.
@megazenn22
@megazenn22 6 жыл бұрын
the first porn i ever saw was on a psp
@kaarthuisplus
@kaarthuisplus 6 жыл бұрын
megazenn22 This is why you can't buy a pre owned psp :s
@megazenn22
@megazenn22 6 жыл бұрын
nah, just buy a white one you wont notice
@mofomanx10
@mofomanx10 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it was my first mobile fapping device.
@pissyourselfandshitncoom2172
@pissyourselfandshitncoom2172 6 жыл бұрын
Same here.
@WillOnCode
@WillOnCode 6 жыл бұрын
mofomanx10 it was all of ours flip phones was slow
@viniciusgomes5147
@viniciusgomes5147 6 жыл бұрын
I put so much time into Peace Walker and Dissidia 012. And I experienced many great games like Locoroco 1 and 2, Daxter, Crisis Core, GTA: VCS, Maverick Hunter X, LBP, Ys Seven and Ghost of Sparta. It was a great platform.
@Kinoksis
@Kinoksis 6 жыл бұрын
RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIDGE RACER!
@jetfuelcantmeltdankmemes8238
@jetfuelcantmeltdankmemes8238 3 жыл бұрын
fuck yes. someone gets it.
@ldmun
@ldmun 3 жыл бұрын
Remember that one?
@bergonath8851
@bergonath8851 6 жыл бұрын
I'm still using my phat PSP, as a portable PSOne.
@freeflowingacid5182
@freeflowingacid5182 6 жыл бұрын
This is exactly why the Vita has value to it.
@teacherfromthejungles6671
@teacherfromthejungles6671 4 жыл бұрын
@@freeflowingacid5182 Vita has its own great games.
@mfpv_detroit8182
@mfpv_detroit8182 3 жыл бұрын
I'm still using my vita
@DANNYonPC
@DANNYonPC 6 жыл бұрын
PSP had some amazing games
@ethor4858
@ethor4858 6 жыл бұрын
"Had", so the amazing games have just vanished, huh?
@mwfcod0932
@mwfcod0932 6 жыл бұрын
Ethor ' salty af huh?
@SparkY0
@SparkY0 4 жыл бұрын
In the case of the PSP, it WAS a plastic shell. More importantly the ones that were actually ON were also plastic shells, just built around an LCD displaying an external video feed, as of it were a frame on a small PC monitor. Notice the hard mounting and obviously fake button press. They didn't give specs because they werent final, beyond the dimensions. They didn't show games running on a PSP because those psps couldn't take input. It was all an illusion
@Daniel-yz3zf
@Daniel-yz3zf 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all of the effort you put in to these videos guys!
@saviorself1164
@saviorself1164 6 жыл бұрын
At the time of the release of the PSP, I was working at Sony DADC. We were making UMD's before we even knew what they were for. We could buy them for next to nothing so, I had a nice collection before the PSP even released. I could grab a UMD straight off the line and play it on my breaks. They actually encouraged that at the time. That was when physical media still reigned supreme and business was booming. I LOVED my PSP, especially working there.
@townsjim
@townsjim Жыл бұрын
What were you playing the UMDs on if you were playing them before the PSP released?
@saviorself1164
@saviorself1164 Жыл бұрын
@@townsjim I didn't say I was playing them before the PSP released. I said I had a nice collection of UMDs before the PSP released
@JamanWerSonst
@JamanWerSonst 6 жыл бұрын
Still have my Day 1(Europe launch, Sept. 1, 2005) PSP1000, still works flawlessly. For years it has been my go to emulation machine. I replayed so many of the old Gameboy, Ps1 and SNES games I played as a kid on it. The library of PSP games was also impressive. Even though it was outsold by the DS by 2:1, 80 million units sold for Sonys 1st handheld is extremely impressive. In fact, for my tastes, handheld gaming was so good last gen that I only very late in the gen got a home console. I think I only got a used Xbox360 and Ps3 in 2012 or something like that.
@lolozo214
@lolozo214 6 жыл бұрын
If I'm not mistaken, the 3ds has yet to top the psp
@gabbytoyreview7359
@gabbytoyreview7359 6 жыл бұрын
Lolozo214 yup, goes to show the impact of smartphones in general. From mobile gaming to watching videos and social media apps.
@Loundsify
@Loundsify 4 жыл бұрын
I also bought mine then, saved my pocket money and birthday money up to buy it I was 15 at the time.
@MkProductionQ8
@MkProductionQ8 6 жыл бұрын
PSP + jailbreak = heaven
@chewu
@chewu 6 жыл бұрын
Back in my day we called it CFW/HEN
@SomeOrangeCat
@SomeOrangeCat 6 жыл бұрын
No joke. I have a GO model. Beautiful system for emulators.
@Michirin9801
@Michirin9801 6 жыл бұрын
It's pretty great, but I found it not to be quite as good as some people make it up to be, I have a GO model, and RetroArch crashes A LOT in it, which is bad because RetroArch has the only decent PC engine emulator for it that I'm aware of, the only other one I found runs worse than NitroGrafx on the DS which is unacceptable... However when RetroArch DOES work it wipes the floor with NitroGrafx! But it won't boot every game... PC engine aside, there's also the SNES which doesn't run great, I couldn't get a single game to boot with RetroArch, but a lot of games will boot on Snes9xTYL, but you have to turn off Vsync to get a decent speed, it's not ideal, but it works, and I can get a bit of a Ninja Warriors fix on-the-go that way... There's a bit of input lag though... Oh and, WonderSwan emulation on the PSP is abysmal! I try to boot Guilty Gear Petit 2 on the [e]Mulator, and I get 20fps at best when the game is supposed to run at 60... Those systems aside, everything else I tried runs surprisingly great! Mega Drive, Neo Geo, GBA, all of them run great! (And I have no idea why considering those systems are supposed to be considerably more powerful than the ones that run poorly) And they don't crash the system! There's also NES and Neo Geo Pocket Colour which also run pretty well on the system, but I don't play those nearly as much...
@aiodensghost8645
@aiodensghost8645 6 жыл бұрын
Michirin9801 I want the GO model because I use my PSP for downloads and as an MP3 player more than I use my UMD's. That and 16 GB out of the box is better than having to use a memory stick pro duo.
@Michirin9801
@Michirin9801 6 жыл бұрын
You could just buy an SD to Memory Stick adaptor, there's one particular model which has 2 micro SD card slots which support cards of up to 64GB each, so you could have 128GB of memory that way! You know, I almost regret having bought a PSP GO, because it doesn't support regular Memory Sticks or Memory Stick Pros, I have to use an M2 card, and the only SD card solution for PSP GO models involve an intrusive mod which I'm not capable of performing, and even if I was, I don't even think has parts is available anymore (I could be wrong though), so I'm stuck with M2 cards, which only go as high as 16GB, so with one of those I can only have up to 32GB on my PSP at a time... I don't quite regret it though because I get to play emulators on it on top of PS1 and PSP games~ Not to mention the PSP GO is quite small, it's even smaller than my small old 3DS, while having a slightly larger screen! (To be fair though, the 3DS has two screens, and the clamshell design protects them, the PSP GO has its screen always exposed, and mine already came scratched... Yeah, I got it used) I also found that putting RetroArch on an M2 card instead of loading it from the internal memory causes it to crash a lot less often... It still crashes though, but only if I switch the games too many times, never during a play session...
@bravebiird
@bravebiird 6 жыл бұрын
i love this in-depth content on older moments in the gaming industry. keep this content up, it's probably my favorite thing to watch!
@RicoSeattle
@RicoSeattle 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you SO MUCH Digital Foundry for making these kinds of videos!! I absolutely LOVE your analysis of gaming history. PLEASE continue to make more of these videos!!
@mpforeverunlimited
@mpforeverunlimited 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like the multimedia functionality of the psp and the touchscreen of the DS set the framework of what a modern smartphone is
@gabrielevitale9969
@gabrielevitale9969 6 жыл бұрын
one hour of DF retro, here we go
@utubeb14
@utubeb14 6 жыл бұрын
I love these types of videos, very relaxing and interesting look at history.
@AssaultTheLake
@AssaultTheLake 6 жыл бұрын
This is great. Like two knowledgeable mates reliving gaming memories - keep it coming!
@sa_exploder
@sa_exploder 6 жыл бұрын
These videos have been great. John and Rich make a good duo, and it's a lot of fun looking back on these presentations. Looking forward to the Xbox 360 video!
@lamarrdijey660
@lamarrdijey660 6 жыл бұрын
Cory Soto I'd like to see Tom get in on one of these.
@terrylodge4846
@terrylodge4846 6 жыл бұрын
Ridge racer type 4 soundtrack at the beginning of the vid...awesome choice!
@lanasrj
@lanasrj 6 жыл бұрын
this series is great! Even though I've been a Patreon before, this entry convinced me to come back permanently. Looking forward to future episodes
@MatSpeedle
@MatSpeedle 6 жыл бұрын
An hour of DF Retro! Yes please! Love my PSP still, such a great console still to this day.
@zwerker
@zwerker 6 жыл бұрын
Love the Ridge Racer music!
@Zahid81
@Zahid81 6 жыл бұрын
"Ridge Racer Type 4 - Move Me".....sickest videogame track EVER!
@zwerker
@zwerker 6 жыл бұрын
Zahid Tabassum Type 4... now THERE'S a game that deserves a remake or remaster!
@Amplamente
@Amplamente 4 жыл бұрын
It's About time Ridge Racee get it's own retrospective episode!
@madfinntech
@madfinntech 6 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love these videos! I never had PSP and deeply regret selling my OLED Vita.
@franklinbrown7389
@franklinbrown7389 6 жыл бұрын
You guys have tapped into a whole new nostalgic well. I think there will be plenty of fuel down there. I hope you guys keep doing videos like this.
@theanalogcirclepodcast.9416
@theanalogcirclepodcast.9416 6 жыл бұрын
I love these flash back commentaries from past E3s. This is a great lead up for E3 2018. Keep em coming.
@josef5962
@josef5962 5 жыл бұрын
I just pulled my old psp from the drawers, and playing on it again made me realize what a revolutionary device this was. I spent so much time on this thing, I wish I could travel back in time and experience all this awesomeness from the psp as a kid again.
@BananaMana69
@BananaMana69 6 жыл бұрын
I loved how the DS was very multiplayer oriented. DS download play was amazing. With a lot of games you only needed 1 copy and you could play multiplayer. Not to mention the novelty of that little chat room where you could connect to your friends and draw stuff. Or playing Animal crossing and joining each other's towns. Pokemon diamond and pearl with their underground multiplayer crystal mining thing. Metroid Prime hunters is the only handheld FPS multiplayer game I can remember, and it's glorious once you get used to it. I have so many memories of playing DS with my friends.
@arbiter-
@arbiter- 4 жыл бұрын
2004, what a year for gaming. Halo 2 and the best handheld ever made in the same month? Take me back.
@Terroar.
@Terroar. Жыл бұрын
Also Gta Sa 🙌
@austinkiernan0000
@austinkiernan0000 6 жыл бұрын
I loved the last retro E3 throwback! Happy you guys did another one!
@jerrodkilla23
@jerrodkilla23 6 жыл бұрын
You guys really should consider selling DF retro DVDs as merchandise. I'm sure they would fly off the shelf I absolutely love the show.
@stonerdemon
@stonerdemon 6 жыл бұрын
PSP is a phenomenal device. The day I got mine and played Wipeout Pure for the first time was absolutely mind bending. Now I have the Ys games, Lunar, Breath Of fire, Gradius Collection, Valkyria Chronicles II... So many awesome games.
@dajam9035
@dajam9035 6 жыл бұрын
stonerdemon Lol I remember that I only had enough to buy the psp itself. I probably used that umd demo disk more than anyone 😅.
@stonerdemon
@stonerdemon 6 жыл бұрын
dajam9035 Hahaha, same as me! The demo disk was actually very good. It had a little of everything. I've started collecting PSP games, better do it now before they get insanely expensive. So far the Ys games are the most pricey, luckily I already got all of them at reasonable prices.
@dajam9035
@dajam9035 6 жыл бұрын
stonerdemon Wow I didn't know the price of the games were high.
@Loundsify
@Loundsify 6 жыл бұрын
stonerdemon wipeout pure was so good, plus it had gameshare.
@stonerdemon
@stonerdemon 6 жыл бұрын
Loundsify It was an incredible achievement for a portable of that era. And Burnout Legends was no slouch either.
@AlexandruTataru
@AlexandruTataru 6 жыл бұрын
Loved this video format. Looking forward for new ones.
@redsyrup1138
@redsyrup1138 6 жыл бұрын
Great format and retrospective. Thanks DF!
@koilkondaraviteja9945
@koilkondaraviteja9945 6 жыл бұрын
i recently bought a psp very cheap, bought some secondhand classic gow umds and 2 64gb memory cards,popped up some jrpgs,emulators and maybe iam set for my gaming life,psp is certainly ahead of its time...glad i got that..anyone else missing out?grab a psp..u wont regret....
@pegasusdrive12
@pegasusdrive12 6 жыл бұрын
(PSP)First gaming device I ever owned. Will always have a soft spot in my heart
@HShango
@HShango 6 жыл бұрын
you must be really young then lol
@pegasusdrive12
@pegasusdrive12 6 жыл бұрын
Moses Jonson I'm 16
@DJVulpus
@DJVulpus 6 жыл бұрын
Always look forward to these videos!
@yeahyukerson4511
@yeahyukerson4511 6 жыл бұрын
thank you so much for these videos. it is always great to remember where we came from technologically.
@SHGames97
@SHGames97 3 жыл бұрын
The PSP did have shaders 2 Pixel shaders and 1 Vertex shader! So impressive for a handheld of the era, not even the PS2 or 3DS actually had true shaders
@RichardLarge88
@RichardLarge88 6 жыл бұрын
Oh hell yes! New DF Retro is always a treat! Gonna watch this now. Do you think one day you could do a DF Retro on Jet Set Radio? I think it would be really interesting to get a retrospective on the game that pretty much invented cel shading...
@Sly2Cooper
@Sly2Cooper 6 жыл бұрын
If I'm not mistaken, they featured JSR in on of their videos. I've definately seen a video about JSR on DF Retro.
@RichardLarge88
@RichardLarge88 6 жыл бұрын
Sly2Cooper I don't recall ever seeing one and as far as I can tell I've seen all the DF Retro videos. Also just did a quick search and there's nothing on it. Maybe it featured briefly in another video, or another channel did it?
@Mizgala28
@Mizgala28 6 жыл бұрын
Thx for the awesome video DF!
@MrKaprione
@MrKaprione 6 жыл бұрын
This was GREAT guys, thanks!👍
@peruprofundodance
@peruprofundodance 6 жыл бұрын
I remember the PSP launch so well. Took me about 4 PSPs to get it right because each one had dead pixel issues.
@retroland9703
@retroland9703 6 жыл бұрын
ron s My psvita has a similar problem
@rcontrerastaule
@rcontrerastaule 6 жыл бұрын
Yes! just what i needed to have a good sunday.
@kryten09
@kryten09 6 жыл бұрын
Awe man.. this takes me back to when I was 18. I worked a last minute job my dad's buddy needed. It was construction, hauling concrete into a truck and drilling holes with an auger (building a park). 10 hours later, $500 later I was at "target" buying a PSP, MLB, NHL and "hellboy" then off to the airport and flying to Texas on vacation. Good little system, saw "hellboy" on it for the first time, listened to mp3s on it. Way ahead of it's time.
@LonkiGames
@LonkiGames 6 жыл бұрын
Love these videos and longer videos like this! Keep em coming !
@PurushNahiMahaPurush
@PurushNahiMahaPurush 4 жыл бұрын
I see the Switch as a spiritual successor the PSP consoles (including the Vita). The PSP was groundbreaking when it came out. Console quality games on the go is pretty much what the Switch is selling us today. And despite being a major source of headache, I loved the UMDs. When you bought a physical copy, it actually felt like you bought something tangible as opposed to the small cartridges of Vita and Switch. I mean I get why Sony and Nintendo went for cartridges but holding a UMD actually felt like I am holding something cool and awesome. Also, the PSP was built like a fucking tank. PSP and PS2 was the golden age for Sony Computer Entertainment.
@TheBlackItalianGamer
@TheBlackItalianGamer 6 жыл бұрын
*PSP WAS A GEM*
@charizardoreo
@charizardoreo 6 жыл бұрын
TheBlackItalianGamer PS VITA EVEN MORE SO
@boleshuggah
@boleshuggah 6 жыл бұрын
Bought a psp 1 month ago, downloaded 30gb of games, amazing system
@panosf5779
@panosf5779 6 жыл бұрын
psp IS* a gem
@Specter227
@Specter227 6 жыл бұрын
Word, PSP has an amazing library. Vita doesn't even compare.
@MaggotInfestedGod
@MaggotInfestedGod 6 жыл бұрын
truly a hidden gem of last gen
@townsjim
@townsjim 3 жыл бұрын
The first time I saw the PSP was in an import tech shop next to Manchester Picadilly train station in February 2005, which was over 6 months before the official UK release. The guy in the shop kindly brought it out of the display case to let me have a go on it, and it genuinely felt like something from the future with all of its features, utterly jaw dropping. I'd say it impressed me even more than when I first tried out an iPhone back in 2008. I was tempted to buy it, but it was a Japanese import and the price was I think £350, maybe even more and 18 year old student me couldn't really afford it, so I decided to wait.
@strickerx5
@strickerx5 6 жыл бұрын
Please keep these coming. They’re great!
@freutty
@freutty 6 жыл бұрын
I see and hear Baten Kaitos :( Underrated gem
@frapippo420
@frapippo420 6 жыл бұрын
One of the many gamecube's gems.
@spectrumbots4268
@spectrumbots4268 6 жыл бұрын
The two best handhelds in the 7th generation! I find both systems better than the 3DS & Vita.
@sno19tux
@sno19tux 3 жыл бұрын
But the 3ds can play ds gameboy 2ds and 3ds games?
@bloofey3727
@bloofey3727 3 жыл бұрын
@@sno19tux can’t play game boy games, and 2ds and 3ds games are the same. So it just plays ds and 3ds games. Plus a virtual console.
@CasepbX
@CasepbX 4 жыл бұрын
I remember seeing the PSP for the first time in a freshman college programming class. A friend just handed it to me and said hey check this thing out. I was blown away by Ridge Racer. I finally bought my own a year after it was released. I have fond memories of PSP. I really wish they would make a Ridge Racer for Switch.
@ShanerTheGrey
@ShanerTheGrey 6 жыл бұрын
Starting the video with some R4 bgm makes me feel like I'm really back at Real Racing Roots '99!
@chairmanmeaow6379
@chairmanmeaow6379 6 жыл бұрын
I love how the psp used in the reveal panel looks like it's been used, with smudges and bits on the screen, that's something that just wouldn't be tolerated anymore, its like our expectations and standards have sub-consciously improved.
@HShango
@HShango 6 жыл бұрын
Very true.
@BananaMana69
@BananaMana69 6 жыл бұрын
Everything seems kinda low budget and cobbled together. Especially the boring slides and shit. Looking back I remember it as an amazing, futuristic presentation and now it just seems kinda strange.
@EdgarGonzalez-fx5td
@EdgarGonzalez-fx5td 6 жыл бұрын
Hodthesenutz hodthesenutz
@jacobroming4768
@jacobroming4768 6 жыл бұрын
i love the R4 ost in the backround
@NowaczekYT
@NowaczekYT 6 жыл бұрын
Over 1 hour long DF Retro episode. Oh boy, Christmas came early this year.
@andrewperkin7192
@andrewperkin7192 6 жыл бұрын
I love this style of video More would be great to see
@gammaphonic
@gammaphonic 6 жыл бұрын
I always wanted a PSP, it looks like a pretty cool system. I’m definitely going to have to pick one up at some point. Still, the DS was just too amazing not to have back in the day.
@MoviesNGames007uk
@MoviesNGames007uk 6 жыл бұрын
Reasons I bought my DS - Hotel Dusk The Last Window Ace Attorney series Mario Kart Mario 64 DS. Reasons I bought my PSP - The 2 Ace Combat games Dissidia FF & 012 KH Birth By Sleep MGS Peace Walker GTA Liberty City Stories GTA Vice City Stories I love both but the PSP just edges it for me console and games and bonus you can play PS1 games and watch UMD movies 🎥
@loliwaifu
@loliwaifu 6 жыл бұрын
UMEDE, in Spanish is like húmedo (damp in english)
@alanlee67
@alanlee67 6 жыл бұрын
MoviesNGames007uk no Nintendogs?
@nanopulga098
@nanopulga098 6 жыл бұрын
Hotel Dusk, Last Window and Ace Attorney series. A man of culture as well. Also other excellent franchise for the DS was Professor Layton.
@nanopulga098
@nanopulga098 6 жыл бұрын
D-MMA Indeed, I wish Cing made more visual novels. Although if I recall there was like a "successor" or a game related (sort of) to Last Window for 3DS I think, I don't remember its name right now.
@Sly2Cooper
@Sly2Cooper 6 жыл бұрын
Ioannis Stefanakis, are seriously comparing backward compatible GBA games for DS with PS1 titles for PSP? Although I played some GBA titles.. via emulator on my PSP.
@AmpliFreQuency
@AmpliFreQuency 6 жыл бұрын
And here I was just looking online for a quality replacement housing to give my PSP 1000 life again. Well done!
@Rashomon20s
@Rashomon20s 6 жыл бұрын
AWESOME! I Can’t Wait to Watch this Later!
@Mucrush
@Mucrush 6 жыл бұрын
I hope you will do a video about the Wii U, it would be very interesting
@fearlessjoebanzai
@fearlessjoebanzai 3 жыл бұрын
No, no, no. These lames are seemingly knowledgeable about specs. etc. but gosh darn it, they have zero love for creativity and innovations, regarding actual gaming experiences - particularly the old guy, meaning that listening to the wooooooooooooshhhhhhh sound of innovative brilliance going over his head becomes quite painful. The old mush in this video actually said that paying an exorbitant amount for a PSP import was worth more than anything else in the world....... so he could play Ridge Racer! A decade old arcade game where the main appeal was the shiny new 3D graphics and blasting techno soundtrack, all while sitting in a giant cabinet - a full scale car if you were lucky!!! AND you could play this...... on a 4inch screen with a d-pad (oh pardon me, 4 directional buttons!), Best, Import, Ever!!!!!! No, no, no sir. I wince whenever he talks Nintendo.
@sonikku997
@sonikku997 6 жыл бұрын
tfw the 360 didn't have wi-fi...
@mycomputergl0wsblu
@mycomputergl0wsblu 4 жыл бұрын
Tommaso Galdi Damn bro thats so real, I remember having to buy a damn 99 dollar wifi adapter for my 360. The PSP was some next level shit when it dropped, blew me away when I was young, didn’t appreciate it as much as I should’ve...
@punchyninja
@punchyninja 6 жыл бұрын
"curved surfaces" is a reference to nurb based modelling support at the hardware level, which really didn't get used by devs.
@AgsmaJustAgsma
@AgsmaJustAgsma 6 жыл бұрын
That Ridge Racer remix at the end LMAO. John makes the best video editing in DF.
@cheappyv5156
@cheappyv5156 6 жыл бұрын
It's not necessarily correct to say that "PSP has skipped a generation". Because GBA wasn't "basically SNES", it was in between SNES and N64 in terms of graphical capabilities. And PSP was right in between PS1 and PS2. So it was a generation, precisely and exactly.
@PurushNahiMahaPurush
@PurushNahiMahaPurush 4 жыл бұрын
Right? People calling GBA a portable SNES is stupid. GBA was easily able to run Doom while SNES was struggling in anything 3D. Even the 2d games looked much better on the GBA in terms of animations, color and resolution.
@sergioaguilera822
@sergioaguilera822 4 жыл бұрын
Its not just a generation , the gba is closer to the snes than the n64 and the psp was closer to the ps2 than the ps1
@valletas
@valletas 4 жыл бұрын
@@PurushNahiMahaPurush so what? Most games still looked like a snes game just as most psp games looked like a ps2 game Saying that anyone who calls it a protable ness are wrong is like saying doom is not a first person shoter because the engine renders it as a top down
@dumitriman
@dumitriman 4 жыл бұрын
@@PurushNahiMahaPurush Doom was on snes
@link5605
@link5605 4 жыл бұрын
@@dumitriman but it ran like trash. Have you seen Driver 3 on the GBA ? I looks almost as good as a very early PS1 game. That's impressive. So, GBA is between 4th (snes) and 5th (n64) gen, but a bit closer to 4th gen. DS is right between 5th (n64) and 6th (gamecube) gen and PSP is closer to 6th gen (ps2)
@xxnike0629xx
@xxnike0629xx 6 жыл бұрын
@DigitalFoundry Wow. Was it really 2004 when PSP and DS was announced? 14 years... I think the main weaknesses with the PSP is the UMD format, the proprietary charge cable, and the battery. The DS is basically like an overclocked GBA
@lolozo214
@lolozo214 6 жыл бұрын
Gotta have the Nintendo gimmicks tho
@wii166
@wii166 6 жыл бұрын
Man i hope they keep making these
@detectivemolasses1980
@detectivemolasses1980 6 жыл бұрын
I like the background music in this documentary length analysis.
@mofomanx10
@mofomanx10 6 жыл бұрын
PSPs are going up in value now. Being able to play the entire PS1 library and the entire retro emulator library is amazing.
@jamesalexander5559
@jamesalexander5559 6 жыл бұрын
mofomanx10 It can't play the entire library but it does do a good amount.
@myman7336
@myman7336 5 жыл бұрын
Smartphone+a good controller can do the job better when it comes to emulation. I mean, if you really want a PSP, then go ahead. I just don't see the point of buying one nowadays unless you used to own one and lost it somehow since PSP is a 10 year old, smartphone-like gadget. I actually own one and it's still working. But even I prefer to use my phone instead.
@bookshelffury
@bookshelffury 4 жыл бұрын
Psp go with ps3 controller over Bluetooth
@AlphaladZXA
@AlphaladZXA 3 жыл бұрын
@@myman7336 or you can use the switch
@xXanaXBloodXx
@xXanaXBloodXx 6 жыл бұрын
GTA on the go won me over the Nintendo DS. Such great memories made with the PSP.
@firefly3196
@firefly3196 6 жыл бұрын
xXanaXBloodXx GTA China Town on the DS?
@xXanaXBloodXx
@xXanaXBloodXx 6 жыл бұрын
I'm talking about the year 2005/2006 when the PSP got liberty cities and vice city stories. China town came out in 2009 by that time it was already too late imo.
@MoviesNGames007uk
@MoviesNGames007uk 6 жыл бұрын
Chinatown Wars is on the PSP but yes it originally was a DS exclusive
@demetriuspowell29
@demetriuspowell29 6 жыл бұрын
MoviesNGames007uk *timed exclusive
@hanma_inu
@hanma_inu 6 жыл бұрын
xXanaXBloodXx the PSP had 3d GTA, While the ds had top-down GTA lol.
@links-awakening
@links-awakening 6 жыл бұрын
Great vid. Took me right back. I remember also paying a fortune for the PSP on import and being blown away by ridge racer; and then being quite disappointed when I got the DS (the 1st version wasn’t so pretty)....until I started playing and it was so much fun. Dr kawashima brain training was great.
@links-awakening
@links-awakening 6 жыл бұрын
referral madness you mean in your opinion which is just that - your opinion.
@systematicallyshocked
@systematicallyshocked 4 жыл бұрын
oooh the future of gaming dvds! I have these including tgs and the other e3s from lik Sang, i like watching them from time to time.
@sloppynyuszi
@sloppynyuszi 5 жыл бұрын
did I see an early fruit ninja on the DS at the presentation?
@Bigdaddymittens
@Bigdaddymittens 6 жыл бұрын
I grew up with both systems. They were both just incredible. I would play bigger games on my PSP, and I would play Nintendo games on my DS. Personally, I preferred my DS. That's mostly due to how reliable the hardware was.
@tremorchrist84
@tremorchrist84 6 жыл бұрын
All these years later and I'm still playing my PSP and DS. Quality hardware with so many damn good games!
@jetthe860
@jetthe860 6 жыл бұрын
Keep doing these!
@Hijynx87
@Hijynx87 6 жыл бұрын
I traded in my DS for a psp, because the DS had like 2 games for it's first 2 years. At least it felt like 2 years at the time.
@soulnystasego792
@soulnystasego792 6 жыл бұрын
The PSP was born with a dirty screen already. Anyway, for me, was the best handheld ever. Still playing today.
@E1uisve_M4GE
@E1uisve_M4GE 6 жыл бұрын
Wow I love the idea of these videos !
@sanderstrebor
@sanderstrebor 6 жыл бұрын
Love these E3 videos!!
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