Definitely. I love GT5 and GT6 but they're so flawed compared to how complete the PS2 era was. They really underestimated the work needed to bring the series to HD. I'm glad they took a step back to regather themselves with Sport, even though critically people didn't like it as much because it was anemic on content at launch. Forza sorta did the same thing on Xbox One with Forza 5, which gave them a platform to build on for the rest of the generation. I can see why they didn't just port GT6 to PS4 though, the Standard cars would be the meme of the decade.

Definitely needs a part 3.

no because gt never improved after 4 infact it got worse on many ways

@@mikenewbold1699 your mom got worse in many ways

@@mikenewbold1699 Disagree, having played GT3 and GT4 recently again i found that i while i still love the car collection side of them, they are not really good racing games due to how braindead the AI is and the fact that 6 cars on track is barely about enough to be called a race, both points that have been improved upon in later games.

hahahahaha only right to see you here man....

My favorite retro game reviewer!! Hope life’s treating you well!! ✨

Completely agreed! GT3 was just a great, great racing game, and GT4 added to it with more cars, tracks, better racing, better graphics...I mean by the time GT arrived on PS3 they still sued some of the PS2 models (cheap and signs of things to come for PD) but just goes to show how exceptional that game was. GT2 is still my fave racer of all time though!

Your videos are good as well dude. You are one of my favorite reviewer on youtube. :) And yes, as teenager, seeing gt3 back than, it just blew my fucking mind. XD

Good to see you here, i love your videos. Review more PS2 games!!!

He clearly has enough CRTs to survive an earthquake

@@TranCeFORM3R As retro gamer, you should own some. XD I don't, but i don't have the space for it.

I can't imagine it would be difficult to pickup another two PS2 consoles that support iLink these days, missed opportunity to flex.

@@SONGOKU02 I own an oled... Does that count?

@@helloguy8934 Oled is a modern tv. Surely not. Crt is the old tube style tv.... There is a big difference on that. If you follow df retro, you already should know, that old games don't work that good with modern tvs, because it hides some inperfactions, it seems sharper and tbe art design of many old games even play with that, so some effects looks better on crt and this will not look great on a modern tv.

never heard of this game, but it does look amazing!

It's such great content

I agree, all devs can learn from this. Resource limitation is never an excuse for poor design.

Watching this today, i was shocked every time the footage switched to gt3. My brain just wouldnt compute it being ps2 for a second.

The industry has been caught in the resolution arms race since the 7th generation....just iterating on graphics quality while chasing the diminishing returns of pushing exponentially more pixels. I remember articles saying that xbox 360 games like nba2k did not look very different from their 6th gen ports when played on a crt.

@@tensevo the key is having the time to work on it

@@theblah12 it’s funny because most creators today where bred on those systems. 99 - 2005 formulated this stuff now. I play on an emulator with 1080p and the games look phenomenal still!

Well put, sir

It was a game that definitely felt "next gen" when it came out. The beautiful visuals were a big selling point and helped it feel more real.

Gt4 é melhor sem comparação

@@joisongoncalves GT4 might hold up better today but didn't have the same visual impact as GT3 had a few years earlier - despite looking even better. After having seen and played GT3 we all expected an improved sequel to be released, and for that reason GT4 never made our collective jaws drop in quite the same way as when we first saw its predecessor. Not graphically at least, which is what I was referring to in the earlier comment. But GT4 is definitely hard to beat as a complete package. It's a true beast of a game.

@@matsnilson7727 Yeah, having enjoyed these games when they came out, GT3 had an impact GT4 couldn't have. I also prefer GT3 over GT4 despite the amount of content GT4 has. Can't explain why, it's just the vibes on GT3 that hit different I guess.

What Volvo section? Are you ok?

how to feel like you're taking shrooms without actually taking em

Felt The same. It was just great

I got the same feeling... Sounded like a Norwegian speaking Swedish or something

@@DanielLiljeberg It was.

Well, maybe a part 3 for PSP era by you ☺️☺️☺️.

Bring on the part 3.

@@AceUndergeekBunny He kinda already put gt psp in this video... So it wouldn't make sense. I wished a psp and ps3 video too. Maybe also 360 and Wiiu..... XD

I’m pretty certain he’s working on one, John has posted tweets about the PS3 games, even showing a PS3 installing a GT5 and posting stuff about the games technical details. If there isn’t gonna be one I would be shocked.

I would say most 6th Gen games especially from 2004-2006 are almost on par with 7th Gen games graphically when you increase the resolution.

I feel like the lighting models and texture detail are still too rudimentary in PS2 and XBox original on the vast majority of comparable releases to make these claims. Maybe racing games are a bit easier to ignore but Xbox 360 and PS3 made a huge jump from the previous consoles when you look at the way lightning is handled especially. More power to you if you feel the difference is small and only resolution , I just genuinely disagree.

@@TSL73 That is how I feel as well. That also extends to late 7th and 8th gen games that are almost on par with early 8th and 9th gen games respectively, but it is still remarkable when you consider the immense gap in performance between the 6th and 7th gen consoles.

@@SteelSkin667 The strange thing about the 6th Gen is that there were a lot more games that ran at 60 FPS on it than 7th Gen.

@@TSL73 That's true, particularly on the PS2 and Game Cube. It's mostly Western developers that stuck with 30 FPS targets during that time period - in fact I think there would have been a lot more 60 FPS games on 7th gen if Japanese developers didn't struggle with the transition to HD consoles, and with the PS3 in particular.

I love the 6th generation but personally I think racing games had their golden age during the 7th! Burnout Paradise and GT5 are how I got through high school and college.

@@CaliberBlue Burnout Paradise is one of the worst in the series, at least to me... The concept of an open world racer breaks all the glory of burnout. Burnout 3 is the best arcade racing of that era. Is fast, simple and you just need to press some buttons to start a race.

The 6th gen was probably my favorite console generation. As much as I love my Series X, PS5 and Switch there was just something very special about the PS2, Xbox and GameCube. The graphics were a huge step up from the 5th generation and developers were in like a renaissance era when it came to creating all sorts of games.

@@kevinleite6309 Paradise is as good as Takedown, if not better. But they are vastly different games.

I go back and forth between gen 5 and 6 as the apex. But my god the racers in gen 6 is GOD TIER

Hell yeah.

Wipeout was such a big deal in the early 32 bit days, a video on the series would be awesome.

Good luck with a music focus (YT licensing limits).

PLEASE

You mean Burnout, Flatout?

….really? You think this is “insane”?

@@rav186 Yes, whats your issue?

@@rav186 Salty troll is salty

@@FranciscoFJM I disagree, that’s my issue.

@@Daumex you might want to look up what ‘salty’ means.

That's what I've always repeated. After gen 6, it's takes much more power for lower increases in visuals.

Did you mean from gen 3 (nes/ms) to 4? (Gen/snes)?

@@retrosoul8770 No, I mean Atari 2600 to NES

I would agree with you, but the shift in focus to more realism/seriousness throughout the game and the heresy that is the rigid chase-cam takes it down a few notches. Still a phenominal game though.

GT7 is for now 2nd place, 1st is GT4... but with updates GT7 will get better and better and take the 1st place in the podium beating GT4 so far

@@blondbassist The shift to realism was always their goal so it was just a matter of time. I enjoyed the more arcadey nature of earlier games too but fortunately there were a lot more arcade racers back then to complement GT4's realism.

@@MegaTrolleybus problem with that is there are already a lot of hardcore Sim Racing gamesz IMHO is an error to try to change the type of game because hardcore simracers are not going to be impressed and traditional fans are going to be allienated, as a matter of fact the physics on GT7 are off and do weird thing in certain cars

@@marcos1669 With its assistance tools GT7 tries to strike a balance between full simulation and beginner friendly. I think it has a lot to offer, especially for new players to the series. It's by no means perfect but it's going to be updated for many years to come. Hopefully many more tracks and modes in the future.

Funny that nobody mentions the horrible engine sounds though. Was a super turn off, especially cause it looked so great.

Agree with all the above especially including response regarding GT's engine SEs being lackluster. For race engine SEs of the PS2 era, I enjoy both ToCA Race Drivers 2 (esp. its V8s) and 3 - GRID's forerunner - when it comes to engine SEs (and less ~understeer); but, that's not to say I won't enjoy the GT4 NTSC-U online-beta alongside ToCAs 2 and 3 online now. 👍 .... Regarding ~spatial SEs from tunnels, there were PS1 games which applied echoes when [navigating tunnels] including applying the echo to the music. What some may not know is that, for PS1 games which allow you to swap in a music CD after the track or map had been loaded, the game also had the echo applied to the CD music you swapped in for at least one or two game titles (I'm recalling to the best of my recollection).... might have been _R4: Ridge Racer Type 4_ and 1 of or all of the _Wipeout_ titles. After the race is over, the player would pause the game before transitioning away the track that was just finished in order to swap back to the game disc then take the game off [pause] again.

@@That_Handle you used every trick there is to write words, punctuation and abbreviations🤔👏

@@tydendurler9574 🤷‍♂️✌️ .... you know.... I didn't utilize any bold letters or bold italics. Not so sure bold italics can be entered anymore at least by way of the app. As long as it reads better than [if otherwise] and I don't draw on too long, pulling away from being succinct.

Do you know what type of Swedish is used? I have never heard that dialect.

@@duskonanyavarld1786 Norweigan dude speaking swedish for some reason.

@@duskonanyavarld1786 It´s one of life greatest mysteries, I cant pinpoint it my self :p

They were great I agree. Having to play the NTSC version now on PCSX2 (because PAL 50hz... No thanks), I have to say that I don't like the US soundtrack and US opening is the worst of all imo. The Japanese doesn't work well for me sadly, otherwise that would be my go to. I miss "Just A Day" opening... GT3 is really special

Seriously. How was TOCA not even mentioned?

@@pandaman5OOO Codemasters were completely ignored... TOCA (+CMR) were real PS competitors to GT

Toca 3 was an amazing game. It had cube mapped reflections too I think. Just don't try the PC port unless you use an Australian copy, because it will brick your computer.

I felt the same from ps2 - ps3. But ps3 - 4 was small...

@@SONGOKU02 motorstorm shits over the best looking Ps2 games , and so did driveclub

Sure but devs used clever tricks to hide hardware weakness GT3 has faked reflections, car Windows are so tinted because car models didn't have interiors Then there is Project Gotham Racing 2 with car models with interiors and high quality reflections

One of my favourite racing games, the only game that actually rewards you for being good and driving cleanly

I loved that game with a deadly passion. I will leave the replay mode running and go to sleep on the beautiful replay sound tracks. Wonderful time.

Oh yeah!

I have played all Gran Turismo games since GT1 and i couldn't agree more, playing GT7 in 4K HDR is really mindblowning, i even got the G29 racingwheel for GT7, it's so good

It's actually the most useless game I ever played for same reasons you mentioned. Thank God I didn't waste my money on it.

@@lordspalse0062 lol why are you even here if you don’t like GT Series.

@@SC0RPI0NFURY yup i have the thrustmaster t300rs . Racing on the wheel is very good. But sometimes i hook it up to my other tv and play via dual sense. Even on dual sense it’s so good. The haptic feedback is very nuanced and adaptive triggers helps a lot with braking stress.

@@vishalbharadwaj570 it's just GT7. I'm a huge fan of GT but GT7 is not what was promised after the disappointing GT sport.

Oh yeah.

Yes!

Including the lost HD concept shown of gt4 but with 16 car grids.

there was no real competition, but yeah, we need a DF retro for this

@@marcos1669 Midnight club

@@FranciscoFJM how could I forget, I love Midnight Club 2....

The PS1 to PS2 era jump is the most exciting I think there will ever be in gaming for visuals. The ceiling was still unknown & the way there was still open to debate. And this is not to mention just the obviously massive increases in fidelity taking place and developments in gameplay. Doom 3 & Farcry would come along eventually but by that stage standards were set and to a degree so were expectations. I miss the exciting happy & hacky days prior where one could still be surprised, something Sony still tried to recapture with folly in the Killzone 2 & Motorstorm “gameplay” trailers…To finish this on a car pun; a time where no one knew what was around the next corner.

@@Fuuntag I think once ray tracing and Unreal Engine 5 gets utilized more we will have the same jump in graphics, and especially if we get a mid generation cycle console with better ray tracing capabilities

Yep.