Yet it runs at a lower resolution on switch and woo

@@GamingThesis I don't think you understand, the switch is more powerful and has a more modern architecture, and even before taking that into account, they have an absolutely unparalleled amount of money to work on this game yet it came out like this

@@GamingThesis Well Breath of the wild was made for Wii u, Runs ok on the switch, looks away better than this.

@@GamingThesis Thats not true whatsover. The Wii U uses a Power PC CPU based on the late 90s (!). The Switch has a VASTLY more modern CPU which allows it to do a lot more using less resources. The Switch also has 3 times more RAM available for games which helps in all kinds of ways. The only thing where the Wii U can somewhat be comparable with the Switch is the GPU, but even that one doesn't match the Switches.

@@The_Ostrich Yet the Switch consistently has middling improvements to Wii U ports, you're really overselling that hardware, lol.

@@GamingThesis yeah at 8:18 around the player and pokemon. looks absolutely horrible.

Yeah that was big for me. Most other things didnt bother me, but the artifacting was just inexcusable

Yeah I’ve never seen artifacting in a game that bad to the point that it’s outlining characters

I haven't noticed that yet. Been using an mClassic to battle the artifacting. Hopefully it won't cause some weird texture jerking like I've been noticing with the grass.

The caves were weird. Not only did it have artifacting, there were some parts where the floor didn't match with the walls and you can see gaps leading to the void outside of the map.

So it’s literally just enlarging the image like an old copy of photoshop would when you’d resize the canvas? That’s crazy

Huh, any video/article that explains this technique used on the game?

@@RikuoTanaka Not to self-advertise, and it's in german, but I show examples in my Arceus video at around 25:45

@@TheHulksMistress Any game with resolution scaling does this. Arceus just uses the wrong scaling method that accentuates the jagged pixel edges

I prefer the jaggies to a softer look.

Same with me, it only started happening a few hours into the game

Same. It's really distracting.

A fellow battle network fan. Hi

Ive been having that issue and lighting issues, where it abruptly adjusts from light and dark

Megaman battle network, nice.

Yeah if only like, their games sold tens of millions of copies, they could like... "HIRE" more people

@@AdnanCucak Why would they spent more money to hire more people if lazy cashgrab always works for these fanboys? Just keep shoving shitty game down the fanboys throat, stonks.

@@reighaillness You speak the truth

They just need to tell game freak to fk off. Get bethesda or some other more competant company working on an open world 3d game.

I think the biggest issue with Gamefreak's games at this point is probably time, not budget. All the money in the world isn't going to buy them another year to develop their games, and in the time it takes Nintendo to develop a game like BotW, Gamefreak has had to make Let's go Pikachu and Eevee, Sword and Shield and all it's DLC, and Legends Arcues.

He showed that it was. Especially with the cave entrance example.

shitty rim light added every where to “hide” the flat lighting in the open world, I feel they couldn’t come up with a real-time gi solution so end up with this

I genuinely haven't seen a single clip or screenshot of this game that didn't look terrible.

No lighting or shading, very very bad

Twilight Princess for the Gamecube is from 2006 and the shading and lighting blew me away, for me, it looks better than TESB Oblivion.

lmao

Should’ve bought more card packs, suckas

GameFreak is a relatively small studio though. Making lots of money doesn't mean that they have thousands of employees at hand.

@@LocrianDorian So!? Please bro, tell me so? So is ok!? Please bro tell me, give me youre answer, please, so is all ok, is cool that the pokemon franchise is shit because they are small and this thing cant be change, please tell me

@@associazioneotaku lmao hahahahahaha

Maybe they held back resources not knowing how the community will accept this new direction

@@kyrongreenidge5523 bruh its Pokémon fans, they'd be happy with a game where you run on a flat, endless textureless plane as long as there was a pikachu every other mile and still say "imagine what the next game will look like". And it would still sell 10 million copies in a week

@@FROEZOEN facts lol but I'm sure the next entry will be epic af

@@kyrongreenidge5523 Wish I could say I agree but we've legit been saying that since Let's Go when they said "The next entry will be a traditional Pokemon Title" and ended up looking worse than Let's go...

Guerilla have been an AAA-developer essentially since they started, with their games being technical standouts on every console. Adapting to Horizon was just expanding on what they already did. Gamefreak made their name on 2d titles, to go to something like this is a massive shift, and one they don't seem to want to do properly, but it's a completely different story than Guerilla.

It's like gamefreak is punishing their fans by saying "You dare criticize our last game? Then take this!!" As they release Scarlet...

He must not have seen that gyrados flickering in mid air at 2 fps in the first area at night. What was supposed to be a breath taking moment similar to the dragons in botw just made me burst out laughing

@@EVPointMaster didn't see I could expand the comment. My bad. It is really bad with flying Pokemon

same happens in mario odyssey and xbc is why, it's very normal for models further away to move at a lower framerate, most games do this in fact.

@@kenrulei09 Please read the whole comment.

Every optimizations in this game feel overkill and badly balanced, but that one is the most jarring.

I reckon after Breath of the Wild 2 and the next monolith soft game are released they should do a joint development with Game Freak to make a legitimate 3D Pokémon game.

Yeah they helped heavily with BoTW and then made XC2 with half there staff. so if anyone could help em fix there games is Monolithsoft

@@Dottorilla I wonder if Monolithsoft helping BOTW also made that game loose some of that Zelda integrity with the dungeon design and other things like that... I prefer Gamefreak learning how to do stuff than another studio messing around.

@@saricubra2867 You mean change the formula to be one of the best games of this generation? Yeah. They did help. You guys are like the same folks who complain about FF not being turn based anymore

@@saricubra2867 Don't think so. Monolithsoft only handle BoTW's world design and teach the team their black magic in optimization, but we don't know their involvement in BoTW2. But, GF should just need to be taught their black magic in optimization and it should be fine.

Yep, he perhaps meant Torna, but i dont think that was even two years after

And yet BotW is still the only one that Monolithsoft helped work on that actually performs well in visual presentation for both Switch modes. I'll still be baffled by that.

@@rexthesheep 6:55

Yeah Game Freak does print money. For Nintendo and Creatures. I've typed all this out so just do me a favor and find all my replies if you care to know what I mean

I don't want to defend them, the game should definitely look better, but it is worth noting that the video games make up a fairly small portion of their profits. Most of the revenue comes from Pokémon merch

@@tolaut they should’ve make something like pixelmon reforged but more polished

Tbh alot of the pokemon games lately feel abit rushed as they seem to work on a few titles which is normal but not when gamefreak have around 200 staff . I am enjoying the game alot but yea it looks rough but will thelearn as it going to sell and print alot of cash!?!

Game is fun, that's it. As for the overworld, even S&S it's graphics looked more pleasing, also in the Wild Area. Aside from that, what I actually dislike the most is the new art style of the Pokémon itself in Legend of Arceus, in S&S it looked good, but now a lot of Pokémon look off, worse art style wise than ever before. Anyhow the Switch is capable of much more than this, but we already knew that.

Wii U also looks better than the Switch. The latter has a god awful green-ish fog.

@@saricubra2867 I know right, I’ve always preferred playing BotW on Wii U 🤷🏻‍♂️

@@MudSluggerBP I never liked BOTW as a game to begin with, i will never forgive Nintendo for removing proper Wii U gamepad support like we watched with Miyamoto on that 2014 demo (that looked better than the final game for some reason), then the missleasing trailer with supposedly an epic story...

Dude.. most major RPGS from 10 years ago look a generation ahead of this.

@@saricubra2867 botw on Wii u runs at a lower resolution though and suffers from more stuttering

Right, say whatever you want with no research. The video games make up a FRACTION of the billions this franchise makes. How dense do you have to be to think much of that money even goes to game freak who make the fuckin game??? Nintendo needs to step it up and stop only caring about their internal developers. Zelda, Fire Emblem, Mario, etc all get more love and care put into it than Pokemon. Its literally always been like that. This time though, game freak did it themselves. This game outside of visuals is incredible and exactly what this franchise has needed for the past 26 years. This is the true Pokemon game to me. So so much more than just collecting animals and making them fight for the very first time. Fuck the graphics who cares??? Get Nintendo and Creatures to help them out even a LITTLE and they might just be able to put out insane visuals. Regardless, the animations and pokemon models are top notch for the franchise. I can be insanely grateful for this. Not to mention the amount of careful references and lore expansion sprinkled all over this game. To belittle it just for technical issues is just dumb. Did you also know that before recently, game freak might as well be an indie company? They must have gotten a lot of employees in the past few years but in case you didnt know, they are fairly small and outside of Pokemon, they've made games that have faded into complete obscurity. You'll get great models and animations with game freak, but just not visuals yet. They're trying. There's only so much a dev team can do on their own. See Cyberpunk 2077.

@@zerosolis6664 From what I have seen it's just same old pokemon game with no innovation. Can't even do voice acting in 2022 lol.

The problem is Game Freak being lazy developers who know that no matter how low quality their games are, they will still sell millions regardless thus they take advantage of that fact. Either that or Game Freak truly are incompetent.

@@hexerei02021 Well you clearly haven't played it, which makes that categorically incorrect. May as well stop at "from what I've seen". Headass.

@@Eyeolus lol show us the voice acting then and stop sniffing copium.

No, Monolith wasn't involved in Pokémon despite one of their studios moving to the same building as GameFreak (and other Nintendo-related studios like HAL)

Beat me to that first bit. Not sure about them being part of development for this.

Yet Xenoblade Chronicles 2 is anything but technically stable. Still today it has a ton of performance issues.

@@joaoazevedo3939 The visuals and frame rate in X2 clearly have their problems, and, in a few instances, the resolution just gives up. There's a small section in Tantal where the game looks like literal soup. Not an exaggeration, it looks really bad. But... even then, it tries harder than any Pokémon game released to date.

@@Minarreal I'm not sure what happened with both Xenoblade games on Switch tbh. Xenoblade Chronicles X on Wii U balanced a locked 720p and 30fps along with a gorgeous and immensely large world.

Wisps are supposed to be difficult to spot during daytime, while they're very visible during nighttime

that's a game mechanic, the girl at the start tells you they appear at night

He means the original release date for 'Zelda Wii U.'

@@17Haru17 That'd be a really strange comparison to make, considering that would mean comparing a game that released in 2017 to a game that wasn't released in 2015. They were both released in 2017. I think that line in the video is a mistake as well.

@@17Haru17 no, he messed up both games came out in 2017 there was no Zelda Wii U in 2015

Main reason why I never finished it on Switch, which I use exclusively as a portable console.

@@Eyeolus It runs flawlessly in 4k on yuzu/ryujinx. You might wanna check it out, because I couldn't believe it myself what kind of difference that is. (Also locked 30fps)

Blurry is a rather nice word on how XC2 looks on Switch portable.

💯💯💯

Wasn't it fixed 720p docked? The one that has dynamic 720p docked is XC1 DE.

I feel like 2ed to 5th gen they where with the times. there was a time where each new system nitnedo put out the next pokemon was a big step up

Pokemon models during battles aside, I've always thought X and Y really didn't take much advantage of the hardware. It looks like something that could've been done on the DS, hell even the textures are unfiltered like a DS game for whatever reason.

Yeah and it’s a shame really, doesn’t even feel like they’re trying sometimes. Even on the new 3DS, and forcing it to use the higher clocks when modded, both X/Y and ORAS still drop to the high teens with the 3D effects on in battle.

@@pleasedontwatchthese9593 Might just be that they need a new engine and have just been working on the same one for years and tried to convert it for 3D games....and it's just not working. They could start from the ground up, or simply The Pokemon company in general can outsource the project like they did Smash Bros, but Game Freak probably isn't fond of that idea and only won't care if it's just spin offs

I heard monolith also helped xeno blade games don't look the best starting to thinks it's on purpose.

This is a cel shaded game though.

This game is literally cel shaded lol. I assume you’re talking about the black outline Sun/Moon has, that can be removed via emulation? That’s not cel shading.

@@tvsonicserbia5140 Giving everything a glossy/cartoony/simplistic texture doesn't count as cell shading.

Second verse same as the first and also, black outlines are literally a form of cell shading.

@@FROEZOEN the way that the lighter and darker colors on the pokemon are separated makes it very clear that it has cel shading. Not all cel shaded games look good lol.

Tbh I’d say that about most switch games that aren’t fully 1080P

@@lizardonscribes5168 that's pretentious and dumb. Breath of the wild has a solid look and runs at 900p.

@@bz6398 it's not pretentious to dislike non-native resolutions on fixed pixel displays you dolt. Botw looks great because it's simply a good looking game, regardless of resolution. It still looks much worse than if it were native 1080p because upscaling from that lower res introduces tons of aliasing and blurs all the texture work. I've spent many hours emulating the Wii U version, and you'd be surprised what a difference that slight jump to native makes.

All nintendo fans feel obliged to tell us they also enjoy their steaming pile of shit game, raise up standards man that's why we get junk like this and kh

there are GameCube games that look so much better than this

Game Freak is just a terrible dev. They need to move Pokémon to a better developer.

@@trillyoung9664 gamefreak could be a better dev but I have sinking suspicion that the corporate culture in japan prevents them from hiring new talent or accepting any new ideas

Nintendo isn't the one not providing resources to gamefreak, gamefreak just like to make games as cheaply as possible

@@BP-dn9nv These games are not cheap to make. Drop the cap already.

@@Eyeolus they are extremely cheap if you compare them to the income of Pokémon Company.

3d models are pretty small in general.

Mastery isn’t the problem I’m sure, they need reason to put the effort in. If someone’s being paid a fortune to do very little, most wouldn’t give themselves more work to do

@@TheHulksMistress exactly. It's the higher ups that are the problem. Least work for the most money. This is what happens when any industry becomes as lucrative as games have become

Remember, it took Iwata's help to fit all the content G/S had on it. Gamefreak was just going to make Kanto appear as a smaller scaled down version.

I'm sure GameFreak is grateful that KZfaq commenters with zero game development experience are teaching them how to develop games, lmao.

Many games released after BotW (even made specifically for) on Switch make you still appreciate what Nintendo's Zelda-team were able to release. Even Monolithsoft was once again brought in to help GameFreak/TPC develop Pokemon: Arceus. And honestly, Mono has yet to overly impress me since their BotW dev-work as both XBC games have severe visual performance issues in both modes of play. They want to keep stating that Switch's hardware is the problem, but why is it that a game released in 2017 says otherwise still??? XBC2 taught me that I'll gladly take FPS drops in favor of keeping the resolution not dipping to atrocious looking scale ranges for portable play.

The world design is the best part of botw hands down, shame most open world games ignore that in favor of flat empty fields

@@84jesterx And the funny thing is BOTW was a Wii U port. A Wii U port is still one of the best looking games on Switch.

@@dutchguy1807 Exactly! somebody also pointed out Xenoblade Chronicles X to compare against Arceus's flat designs. Like what keeps going on over there at Monolithsoft?

@@84jesterx I mean, TPC is game freak, creatures and nintendo. Game freak is the only developer, the other two companies do nothing but give them shitty deadlines and they don't help while not letting them do what they want. Its really unfortunate but PLA is the first indication of game freak actually getting some fucking freedom

They really should use a hacked Switch to check for lower bounds, even if only theoretical

Sysclk and ReverseNX are a saving grace for this game. Increased clock speed on memory and GPU with forced 720p on docked, and the game never once activates DRS and subsequently has headroom which allows for visual mods like extended LOD and better textures/skyboxes.

I feel like it's definitely safe to say that Monolith Soft's engine continues to impress on Switch hardware after today's Direct haha

Yo im ngl i think arceus might be on monolith's tech. Or at least the botw game tools, it's got similar distance artifacts to botw and xenoblade

@@janus798 I'd be incredibly surprised to be sure. 99% certain it just uses the same game engine Game Freak's been using for all their other Switch games

There's not much to hear, that technique is pretty common in games to help keep performance stable. Distant objects are animated at lower framerates.

Monster Hunter Rise on the Switch did the same thing. Not that I'm comparing the graphics quality of the two.

@@Eyeolus Yeah, and we shouldn't notice it. The shaky technical foundation of these games shouldn't be so glaringly hideously obvious or the whole illusion dissipates

@@cosmosofinfinity 7 year old tablet hardware.

@@LocrianDorian That ran lunch games that looked a whole generation newer/better than this garbage does.

The problem isn't a Gamefreak problem.We should be blaming Nintendo, the switch is heavily underpowered and they have a constant crutch to work against.

@@Blackwaifus Yet talented developers make works of art that make Arceus seem very questionable in comparison. We should expect more from GF, no matter how you look at things.

@Michael Estwik Exactly. When Nintendo wanted to make Breath of the Wild but had almost no experience in open world games, they just shifted literally half of Monolith inside the company to assist with the project and look how it turned out. GF has all the money and resources to excel in any genre they dabble in but for some reason they decide against it time and time again.

@@Blackwaifus Do you even know how powerful the switch or how other switch game look?

The game is fun, though. So I don't know why it needs nicer looking grass. Will that make it more fun?

Indeed. It's utterly impressive how incompetent gamefreak are, given the old and rich company that they are.

While i agree that fog is nice for hide out the unnecesary rendering, its kinda dont work well for this game,.. back then most psx/n64 use fog as part of the game plot/theme/narrative,..e.g. Silent Hill on PSX, Legend of Zelda Majora Mask on n64

@@KaizAmari gta san andreas on ps2 has aggressive orange fog because of the draw distance issue and that’s just give the game more charm to it

Background stuff could be 2D sprites that turn into 3D objects when approaching. I think Mario Odyssey did that. The problem isn't as much that they just appear than that it happens out of nowhere, which makes the pop-in much more noticeable and jarring.

Fog sucks

They have the biggest excuse of all: they can put out whatever shit on a stick they want and people are going to buy it regardless...

I know that number realistically should piss me off but it really does. Crazy that many people can justify paying $59.99 for this.

Evidently they will set a boatload of these games regardless of quality. It's the "Call of Duty" of Japanese franchises.

They know very well that they can put in very little effort and still make record breaking sales and that is sad

It doesn’t take away from immersion at all, the silent majority obviously feel the same way

The don't because they know they will sell millions with little effort

I think most of the money goes to the Pokémon Company.

@@lionheart4424 Gamefreak owns 1/3 of TPC, the other two thirds are Creatures Inc. and Nintendo

Thats not how software development works. You are vastly over simplifying things. No one outside of them will be using their render pipeline and hiring outside people wont't help as much as you think. The fastest way to fix the problem is by keeping the people that already know the most about it until they land on a title that works. The team behind BoTW have been using their render pipeline to make similar games for ages. That "ages" is the key factor to optimization. Its about experience. No two tools in software development are the same. The only way you can hire a "good" programmer is if you quite literally, build the entire thing from scratch in the lowest level language possible. But then, this game would have come out 3+ years later.

Could say the same for games like cyberpunk, no man's sky, battlefield, GTA definitive... You guys act like Pokemon is the only one lol

Fog helps the atmosphere of the game, I'm playing Turok remaster and I wouldn't play without it.

Haven’t seen pop in this bad since Daytona on Saturn lol

You get way more effort, polish and care from studios who charge 1/3 of this game’s asking price.

@@MudSluggerBP lol spot on!!

I would argue that it's a bug, of all the visual problems mentioned in the video that was the one that took me out of it the most, it was really distracting. In a similar vein, objects that overlap transparencies look really bad as well, with really obvious pixellation artifacts at the edges, it's super obvious when you throw a pokeball at a pokemon in the water. Surprised that wasn't mentioned in the video either.

@@hollenwanderer oh yeah I think I saw that one too and yeah it was pretty bad.

What do you mean you "almost thought it was a bug"? The video said something similar. Why is it not a bug? People seem to have a weird definition of what a bug is. That's clearly a bug, just like everything else this video was talking about.

Except criticism isn't what matters. Sales are what matter. So don't buy Arceus.

@@Lucrei. Don’t worry. Not gonna.

@@Lucrei. Yeah. The only reason the pokemon company and game freak will have to seriously rethink their approach of making more profit driven games (eg. low budget / high sales) is by having those games not sell anymore. But it's Pokemon and something very serious would need to happen for the people who keep buying the games to finally say "enough is enough"

@@Lucrei. and if you absolutely have to play it buy it used so GF makes no money

@@Lucrei. Not buying Arceus would also say "hmm i guess people dont want open world gameplay" I am all for criticism but not buying the game because it looks bad would in fact have the opposite effect

won't get fixed...

The switch is weak

It really does seem meant for portable play.

They had to be 240p because Switch is a weak ass console. What more do you want?

@@YumiSumire What about not doing ports that run and look like ass.

@@RobOngrui what about porting them so who wants to play them can play them? You're not the only customer.

It confuses me with why they didnt use the xenoblade engine, just think about it. Large open spaces, roaming animals with high poly designs, rpg elements and real time battles.

@@flipadoodles8677 ikr! That would have been amazing!

They changed engines when they started making switch games. Let's Go, Sword/Shield, and Arceus all use the same engine. The engine probably has its issues, but a lot of the graphical issues is more than likely due to Game Freak's inexperience with 3D HD graphics.

@Michael Estwik Same/Similar graphics between two games does not necessarily mean they are running on the same engine. When the Let's Go games came out, datamines showed that the Let's Go games file/folder structure and codebase were different from the 3DS pokemon games. This is a very common indicator that a different engine was used for the Let's Go games. When Sword and Shield came out, dataminers confirmed that the codebase of Sword/Shield is a "fork" of the Let's Go games. This means they take a copy of the Let's Go software and simply rework it and add to it, meaning same engine as Let's Go. As for Legends Arceus, it is a "fork" of Sword/Shield. References: @kaphotics (twitter) (A pokemon dataminer)

There are PS2 ganes that look better

@@Jonas-ej7id name 1

I don't notice it either. The games fun. I'm like 44 hours in, there's constantly 5-10 friends on my list playing it all the time. Graphics and fun are two very different things.

@@UnexpectedDanger 1? I'll name 5 God of War 2 Shadow of Colossus Resident Evil 4 Final Fantasy XII MGS 3

The GameCube had better looking water, on Pikmin, for example :)

I don't know of any PS3 games that look this bad.

@@NarokathCrimzonAE Mario Sunshine says hello

Tbh, i dont watch those super next gen game videos from them. Switch games often have smart workarounds to have everything run without breaking apart or, on the other hand, are a mess technically. Those are the most interesting cases. I dont know whats the point in analyzing something that looks good like RDR2... good res, good fps, it's more circlejerking than an analysis. Now, figuring out how did Doom 2016 manage to run on switch? I'll definitely watch that

Because there's nothing worth criticizing, people either will spot the terrible graphics themselves or completely don't care then keep throwing money at nintendo Either way, why should DF give any sh*t to this game when clearly GF themselves don't?

It's "cool" to trash the graphics of this game

Maybe he was talking about torna

You don’t say

See: GTA3 definitive edition

And yet this game is really fun XD they did something right obviously

The problem is Game Freak being lazy developers who know that no matter how low quality their games are, they will still sell millions regardless thus they take advantage of that fact. Pokemon as a good game franchise is dead as long as Game Freak keeps making them.

"beautiful open world games on Switch" Yeah, the beautiful *364p* in Xenoblade in handheld-mode. Don't get me wrong I love XC2 and XC:DE and they would be incredible looking games but only in theory. In reality they are really held back by the resolution and tbh I'd rather play Legends Arceus in 720p in handheld mode than XC in as low as 364p. BotW on the other side looks great and has a great resolution, that's true

Yeah... Masuda even lying some times just to justify the lack of content.

Or they just optimzie their own engine, switching to a different engine would mean training all the devs for it which could take much longer than optimizer the current engine. an engine also doesn't magically make everything run better. each game needs to be tweaked.

I'd be really curious to see what new mobile Nvidia silicon with some tensor cores could do. Like enabling DLSS, perhaps. UE5's Nanite really complements their new Lumen renderer, which uses software raytracing and mesh distance fields in concert with a few other techniques to simulate more accurate lighting, with less of a performance hit than full raytraced global illumination. I like that approach, and I'd love to see a new Switch offer some hardware acceleration for this technique. Things like this and reconstruction techniques like DLSS could really allow next-gen mobile hardware to punch well above its weight. I think you'll see a bit of that wow factor w/ the Steam deck.

yes

buy it used so they don’t make any money, as a bonus you discourage digital sales which is eroding the concept of ownership