Digitech the Drop : as good as real dowtuning ?

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How does the Digitech The Drop compare with real dowtuning ?
How low can it bring you and still sound realistic ?
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PLAN OF THE VIDEO :
- Intro : 00:00
- Test in standard D : 00:59
- Test in standard C# : 01:46
- Comparison in C# in the mix : 03:45
- Comparison with a 7 strings guitar : 05:18
- Conclusion, limitations of the pedal, and who is it made for : 06:04
SIGNAL CHAIN :
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► Blackstar HT-metal 5 for dirty sounds
► Two Notes Audio Torpedo Captor
► Focusrite Scarlett 2i2
► Torpedo Wall Of Sound cab simulator

Пікірлер: 99

@XxSypherxX91 3 жыл бұрын

This pedal is a godsend for playing in an 80s cover band.

@true2dagame 3 жыл бұрын

dude u got some of the best riffs ive heard on a review :-)

@ToroKchannel 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks man ! :D

@serjofadown707 3 жыл бұрын

Super review it helped me, Thanks!

@ToroKchannel 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks ! Happy that I have helped you :)

@Aalii6 4 жыл бұрын

great review, thank you!

@ToroKchannel 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks :)

@MrMetalManMe 4 жыл бұрын

Thought you said tuning to Eastenders. Love the video and that pedal 🤘

@majesticpbjcat7707 3 жыл бұрын

"string gouge" OUCH! 😆

@alan6six6 3 жыл бұрын

Very nice compassion! Thank you!

@ToroKchannel 3 жыл бұрын

My pleasure :)

@taylorpearcy319 4 жыл бұрын

I actually liked B on the drop more than the 7 string guitar. Anyone else?

@shredd5705 3 жыл бұрын

Nah, sounded mushy compared to real. But in C# Drop sounded really good

@helamanavalos9806 3 жыл бұрын

Me too, it sounds more punchi,

@zsaz4453 2 жыл бұрын

I use it with 7s too it sounds great imo.even real low

@mrobo4699 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome video bro

@ToroKchannel 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks :)

@frankiechan9651 3 жыл бұрын

Great point about the string feel and tension. The very thick gauge strings needed on a 24.5" scale guitar to get to DropB or lower (12-56 or thicker) are harder to fret and bend and are not as responsive under the fingers as say 10's or 9's. And good point about the dissonance if you are not loud enough on the amp or do not use headphones. I'll be getting one of these myself now - as I wanted to try lower tunings but was wary of the added setup.

@zsaz4453 2 жыл бұрын

I bought it because i hated 12 or 11stringsets, the daddario med top - x-heavy low i played ..idk..that pedal is awesome.the one octave down plus standart e sounds great.i adds.a saturation to the sound its..great D

@zsaz4453 2 жыл бұрын

And that setups when you change to thicker strings sucks.imo.

@marcelcourchesne9519 4 жыл бұрын

I like my whammy dt.downtuning and uptuning is a breeze. And it sounds good.

@jaersee 4 жыл бұрын

Greetings from La Paz, Boivia!!! 🎸🤘

@ToroKchannel 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Jaersee ;)

@TheDarckerts 4 жыл бұрын

Otro boliviano viendo esto 😂

@RavenMadd9 3 жыл бұрын

thank you brother

@ToroKchannel 3 жыл бұрын

My pleasure :)

@widepeepoflo 3 жыл бұрын

Hey ! Excellent video, does it work with a bass too ?

@ToroKchannel 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks :) Yes it does work on basses as well.

@mortimerq-pencil2513 3 жыл бұрын

I just got a Jackson with a floyd rose and this would save me a lot of time retuning.

@ToroKchannel 3 жыл бұрын

It clearly would !

@MikeExplosivo70 2 жыл бұрын

You're so right. I got one of these pedals, sold it, then bought another! I thought I didn't need it but... I do. I love buying more guitars but I need to downsize and be reasonable. This pedal helps a ton.

@lincolnjezek4370 2 жыл бұрын

Can you get just a half step down?

@shredd5705 3 жыл бұрын

Funny that I thought C# sounded better with this effect, was certain real guitar is first. But doesn't replace a 7 string like you said, just doesn't sound same. For Floyd Rose really good

@ToroKchannel 3 жыл бұрын

The interest of The Drop is to keep some tension in the strings so the chugs sound better than if you tune the guitar down :)

@shredd5705 3 жыл бұрын

@@ToroKchannel Indeed, great point

@bitodin 3 жыл бұрын

I thought the same thing

@necurrence1776 3 жыл бұрын

Topic related, I've recorded a jam with the octave setting the other day and send it to my bass player friend. He said it doesn't sound like a bass but was very impressed by the sound quality. He told me it's good that it's not a bass sound otherwise my amp speaker would be blown up by now. I personally hated downtuning my FR guitar for just a couple of songs and this pedal solved the issue. I also think E standard sounds more tight for metal and a good bass player should take care of his part but hey that's just my view.

@ToroKchannel 3 жыл бұрын

the octave setting still sounds a bit strange to me but yes it's well made. The tightness of the sound for metal mainly depends upon your string gage. With some 10-46 you'd better stay in standard E for sure, but if you move to 10-52, E flat and Drop D sound very tight too ;)

@necurrence1776 3 жыл бұрын

@@ToroKchannel you're right. I've been using 10-46 all this time which loses the tightness when downtuned. It looks like 10-52 should be the way to go for me. Thank you

@ToroKchannel 3 жыл бұрын

@@necurrence1776 give that 1052 gauge a try and tell me what you think. For me it was an instant revelation like "Ok, that's what I need" :)

@Kaz89988 Жыл бұрын

Very good video. Just one doubt: In an "extreme" case, with a 6 string guitar if I want to go down to standard A, do you think it would sound better lowering the Drop to 7 semitones (with the guitar previously in standard E) or would it sound more natural/fuller lowering it by itself? 5 semitones with the Drop (in this case with the guitar tuned in standard D)? PS: I also forgot to add what opinion you have about the "Shift Up" option to raise several tones in certain songs (because for example my guitar does not have 24 frets and it is an impediment to play several solos) and if it would be better to use the part of the Whammy or the part of the "Shift Up". And the same in the case of lowering the pitch, I was wondering if the Whammy sounded better or in this case the Drop would sound more appropriate. Thank you so much.

@ToroKchannel Жыл бұрын

You've got to know that I have recorded this video with a 5W valve head. Thanks to the compression, I've almost got the same tone with the drop as if I tune the axe down. Now, I'm using a PRS MT 15 head, and it's got much more headroom than its 15W suggests. It's not far away from a 50W. With this head, I really sense the difference very clearly with the drop even with just 1 semitone. So going to 7 semitones would sound very very strange, and super dark. If you've got a presence knob on your amp, you can push it up in order to compensate but at some point, it won't be enough. I have not tried the Whammy so far, but I will probably review it someday. Hope it helps :)

@julesmaltempi805 9 ай бұрын

@@ToroKchannely

@stevenaustin4591 3 жыл бұрын

I prefer the drop pedal over a 7 string, it sounds tighter than a 7 string, a little darker tone wise but I prefer a darker tone anyway. :)

@stephenrochester6309 3 жыл бұрын

Sold!

@ToroKchannel 3 жыл бұрын

You bought one after watching my video ?

@stephenrochester6309 3 жыл бұрын

@@ToroKchannel I am going to buy one, yes. After watching your video.

@ToroKchannel 3 жыл бұрын

Nice ! You’re gonna have fun :)

@stephenrochester6309 3 жыл бұрын

@@ToroKchannel Absolutely! I have had the same Floyd Rose guitar for 7 years and never found the energy to drop tune. I don’t know why I never thought of buying one of these before. Thanks for the video :)

@ToroKchannel 3 жыл бұрын

My pleasure :)

@johnhart79 3 жыл бұрын

Every video I have seen... it’s demod playing alone. Where do you put the pedal at for the best tone. I put it at the beginning of the distortion pedal chain and it sounds like organs playing with it when I drop any. Octave setting sounds ok. Then I put it in front of the delay and reverb on the send/ return chain and it sounds like organs playing but not as bad and octave sounds better. What am I doing wrong cos I would hate to think I bought a $200 pedal for nothing .....

@ToroKchannel 3 жыл бұрын

Digitech recommands that you plus The Drop in front of the amp, and it should be the first of your pedals in the signal chain. You say you paid $200 for this pedal ? Are you talking about canadian $ or US $ ? Sounds very expensive to me, here in France I can currently find it for 88€ on Thomann.

@therealkickers5166 4 жыл бұрын

Very informative, thanks! I'd love to get one, but the fact with the odd sound difference between the Standard tuned acoustic string sound and the dropped amp sound scaress me off. I'm mainlay playing at low volume sitiing in front of my amp...

@ToroKchannel 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks :) Well if you play at low volume with your amp you will hate this pedal for sure. That's its main limit, and it's really too bad cos' it will stop many people from having fun with this thing but in the other hand I really can't imagine any solution to avoid that dual tune effect.

@soumavbose8780 4 жыл бұрын

I think if the amp has a headphone input... Then you might be able to isolate the dry tone to a large extent if not fully. Isolate as in in your headphone you will listen only the dropped tune...

@AKAJACE1337 3 жыл бұрын

So I can just have my guitar on standard and this pedal I’ll make it sound like drop c or whatever?

@ToroKchannel 3 жыл бұрын

not completely. If your guitar is in standard E, with this pedal, you can play in Standard Eb or D or C# and so on until standard A. If you want some drop tuning, you have to set your axe in tune in drop D, and so you can sound like you were in drop C#, drop C... Until drop G.

@rubenhovhannisyan9633 4 ай бұрын

I want to buy this pedal, but I heard from lot of users saying after 4 semitones down the sound will be muddy etc.. So I am wondering if that 4 semitones are in general or it depends also which is your current tuning? For example if I am in D standard I can go 4 semitones down without affecting the tone or the tone will worsen after only 2 semitones as it will be already 4 semitones down from E standard?

@ToroKchannel 4 ай бұрын

The tuning of your guitar doesn't really matter. What you must pay attention to is the string tension. If you're in standard D with some 10-46 gauge, your strings are too loose and you will hear it very clearly from 2 semitones on. It does start sounding a bit muddy from 3 semitones on, and it goes worse if you go below, even with an appropriate string gauge. You've also got to know that this Drop Pedal will swallow a part of your high end, so you might need to push the presence knob (if you have one) higher than usually. If you want to use this on a 6 strings in E standard to sound like a baritone in B standard, you will be disappointed for sure. But if you wanna use it, for instance, on a guitar in drop D to go down to drop C and play some BFMV (something I'm doing pretty often), you will enjoy it a lot !

@rubenhovhannisyan9633 4 ай бұрын

@@ToroKchannel Thank you for such detailed response. Let me tell you what exactly I want to do. I have guitar in E standard for which I want to play in semitone lower with this pedal and I have a 26.5 inch scale guitar with 10-46 gauge in standard D for which I want to use the pedal to go to standard C. So should this pedal be good for mentioned cases? Thank you.

@ToroKchannel 4 ай бұрын

@@rubenhovhannisyan9633 E standard to 1 semitone below ? That would work easily. Standard D to standard C should be ok too but your 10-46 string gauge is very light for standard D. I guess you feel comfortable but maybe you should try some 11-49 or 10.5-48 (Ernie ball is doing that unusual string gauge and it feels good). But I think it will work anyway.

@rubenhovhannisyan9633 4 ай бұрын

@@ToroKchannel Thank you so much. Then I will buy that pedal for sure and try it with my existing setup, after will change the gauge also. Thanks one more time.

@zsaz4453 2 жыл бұрын

Hm.i play at home very silent on a line6 50w.i dont hear the strumming.

@veemon9280 3 жыл бұрын

I can't find many reviews of this in clean tone. Not everything is rock music. I want to know if this actually sounds Ok with a clean tone. But overall great review

@ToroKchannel 3 жыл бұрын

Maybe I'll make a new video with this pedal about cleans and leads. But yes it does work very well for cleans too, and even for playing bass :)

@veemon9280 3 жыл бұрын

@@ToroKchannel thanks man. I'd appreciate it. I'm not knocking your review...its just that I sometimes find it frustrating when I'm looking for a review on a pedal and most reviewers only review it with a distorted sound. Which is great and all, but sometimes I just want to know what the pedal sounds like naturally.

@nataliarodriguez7049 3 жыл бұрын

I think it suffers when clean if your go down more than a whole step.

@veemon9280 3 жыл бұрын

@@nataliarodriguez7049 you have one ? Have you tried it yourself ?

@bitodin 3 жыл бұрын

How does it sound with clean tone?

@ToroKchannel 3 жыл бұрын

Pretty good, with the same limitation as for hi gain : if you beyond 4 semitones it will sound artificial. Keep in mind that you will get a better result with 10-46 or10-52 strings than with 9-42 or thinner.

@MikeMCT Жыл бұрын

Thinking about getting this but I just play in my basement at not loud volumes. Will it still sound ok?

@ToroKchannel Жыл бұрын

No it won't cos' you will hear your guitar strings and the tone from your amp in the same time as I show in the video.

@MikeMCT Жыл бұрын

It’s such a good idea because a lot of what I play now is D Standard and I’d hate to just have one guitar for that that. I still may order one to see if I’m playing too low in the basement for this to be an issue. I like my 10-46 strings a lot and don’t like the flubbiness of going to D. Free returns worth a shot! Hopefully it works out because really into learning to play Ghost, Volbeat, and Motley Crue right now! Thanks so much for the help with this! Mike

@ToroKchannel Жыл бұрын

@@MikeMCT I hope it will work for you, man !

@MikeMCT Жыл бұрын

Arrived today and tried it - total train wreck at my basement volume. Oh well. I’ll just go back to manually downturning. Thanks for the video.

@michaelye6649 4 жыл бұрын

How about the latency？

@ToroKchannel 4 жыл бұрын

Michael Ye so small I cannot hear it. Something like 5ms according to what I have read.

@michaelye6649 4 жыл бұрын

ToroK Thx for replying me！！I think I'll buy one for drop Tuning！

@cydexshooter4484 9 ай бұрын

what song were you playing for the C# test

@ToroKchannel 9 ай бұрын

Not a song, just a riff I have written for the video.

@cydexshooter4484 9 ай бұрын

oh cool its just it sounds awesome and slowing it down to 0.25x speed i still cant replicate it lmao@@ToroKchannel

@ToroKchannel 9 ай бұрын

@@cydexshooter4484 really ? Should I make a video to show how to play this ?

@cydexshooter4484 9 ай бұрын

that would be awesome (also if you did it would be even better if you added more things like the 5th string 5-7-8-5 or whatever it is you did still cant find out lmao)

@ToroKchannel 8 ай бұрын

first time I play this melody is 7 5 7 8. Second time is 7 0 5 8 5. Pull off between 7 and 0 on the A string and you've got it :)

@21234402 Жыл бұрын

Is it possible to play rythme guitar with no effects on?

@ToroKchannel Жыл бұрын

what d'U mean ? If you talk about distorsion remember that this channel is dedicated to metal music, so you will mainly hear hi gain tones in my videos.