Couldn’t have said it better myself! 🤘🏼😜

Dont forget making the nut slots larger. Which will sometimes make going BACK to lighter gauge not doable. Word

Yeah, there’s really no reason to mess with your stock nut filing.. it will only limit your options. And in most cases lessen your ability to properly set up your guitar. 🤘🏼😜

Facts. Learned this the hard way

I know people who change tunings frequently with an Evertune. yes its not as quick and easy as a hard tail, but it can be done relatively easy (but I had a choice in LTD deluxe Arrows with ET or not and picked the not). I mean it's not a FR. Saying all that, as you said you don't have to worry about intonational changes and other issues when using this pedal and probably the biggest reason to get one of these. I often change around from drop tunings to lower standards.

The overdrive before or after the drop pedal?

@@YellowLAVA overdrive after the drop pedal

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"Pricey, but worth every penny." This is exactly what I said about this pedal. 🤘It really is worth it.

Thank you so much! I work really hard to make the best content that I can that’s informative and fun! Thanks for watching! 🤘🏼😜

Thanks so much for watching! 🤘🏼😜

I’ve got a few pedals on my wishlist that I’ve been dying to get, past fx elastic mattress, boss rotary simulator, digitech color driver. I’ve been wanting those for over a year. And then this thing comes across my radar, and all of a sudden it’s jumped right to the front of that list. My stray has a floating bridge, so changing tunings is out of the question, despite my desire to play other stuff in other tunings. This will solve all my problems!

Im glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching! 🤘🏼😜

Game Changer! 🤘🏼😜

Hey thanks for the compliment! You’re absolutely right. I think for both guitar and bass, this pedal is still the most useful when you keep it within 1-2 semitones. Aside the the warbles, latency starts to become noticeable and that makes it a bit difficult to articulate… but again, I think this lil guy holds up pretty well! Thanks for the insight! And thanks for watching! 🤘🏼😜

So if my guitar was already in D standard, would it sound less warbly if I put it in b standard than if I had dropped it from e standard?

@@sutherlandnoah in general, the lower the chords, the more warble-y it will sound. E standard will be the least warble-y, D standard will be a little more and B standard will be even more. And that has nothing to do with you guitar setup or string gauge, it’s just how our ears interpret low pitched chords.

@@warmfoxx3801I gotcha, thank you for the reply! Really helped cleared it up. I was unsure of whether it was the pedal doing that or our ears capabilities

Thanks dude! 🤘🏼😜

Do it! 💪🏼 🤘🏼😜

Thats an interesting idea! 🤘🏼😜

@@MadManMusic It’s about the eq with pedals that filter frequencies out. Use a multiband comp and dampen the chugs, cut the low mid mud, and use the boost pedal to maximize the clarity of your signal.

do you have your grind before the drop pedal in the signal chain?

Awesome! Im glad it works for you! 🤘🏼😜

Oh no! Sorry to hear that.. maybe it can be repaired? Thanks for hangin around! See ya in the next one! 🤘🏼😜

Pulled it apart and fixed it. Back in action baby. 6505+ a solar guitar drop c... hell yea

Thats interesting.. I assume you're trying to find it secondhand? Because I assume sites like sweetwater.com or zzounds.com should have you cover for purchasing new.. no? 🤘🏼😜

@MadManMusic I know Digitech just started up again, wasn't sure if they rereleased that? Though it was just old stuff still floating around. The music stores here have nothing. I'll definitely check into it, thanks!

Nice! I have an old classic whammy hidden away back home in the states. I used to love that thing. The only thing that stops me from putting it back on a board is its size.. I am scaling down and smaller form factor is something I strive for. Thanks for watching! 🤘🏼😜

@@MadManMusic that's exactly why I don't use mine. Its packed away neatly in its original box. I now use the pitchfork+. It covers all the bases that the whammy hits but in a smaller form factor and I use a mission expression pedal. I'm able to have my expression where I want it on my board and I can put the pitchfork+ wherever it fits best on the board. No need to plan for a massive pedal like the whammy dt. Dont get me wrong the whammy is awesome. Its just got a huge footprint.

I totally get ya! That real estate is Precious! 🤘🏼😜

@@MadManMusic yes. And it can be a true artform to build a massive board and find ways to add more pedals and extra features. And make it all look pretty. Looking pretty, I'm still working on but my pedal board always turns heads. At least I'm able to hide all the cabled mess under the hood. Next I wanna get it all under control. Also when I'm building a board, I find that pedals that dictate how I have to build the board just because of their size, ill forget about other important aspects. Ill make mistakes on pedal placement and planning ahead. So I'm learning to avoid huge pedals when possible. I'm starting to put my foot into the world of pedalboard design. My first board was far from a marketable product but I'm over here making mistakes and learning. I'm on my third "finished" board right now and preparing for number 4. I plan to make this next one pretty. I got my construction worked out. Time to break out some paints and get creative and master cable management. If things go well I have an innovative new design that could change how cable management is approached when building pedal boards. And like many good ideas, this one is so simple its stupid.

I got it for free so totally worth it lol

Well, Free is always a good deal! 🤘🏼😜

It definitely works well for dropping just a few intervals.

@@MadManMusic need to find a cheap one lol.

Hey! I’m glad you enjoy the videos! If you’re only dropping 1 or 2 steps, it will work fine. I also play in Drop A regularly and I haven’t had any issues tuning down a whole step. 🤘🏼😜

Yup! Its also really great for learning new tunes! Thanks for watching! 🤘🏼😜

@@MadManMusic i got it so i can play along and learn yngwie, srv, etc. extremely useful.

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It should work well for that! Enjoy! 🤘😜

Thanks! Glad you dig it! Always using an EVH 5150 III 💪🏼 🤘🏼😜

@@MadManMusic This is what I came for! That tone is it!!

I found mine Second Hand for about €130. Check out Ebay. Or Reverb.com I hope you can get your hands on one! 🤘🏼😜

Haha! Yeah its jarring for sure.. so strange to hear both. But, the pedal works well! Definitely cool to experiment with! Thanks for watching! 🤘🏼😜

Turn up your amp:)

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It's honestly quite shitty, honestly,even with headphones on. Either strings have to be so dead they're silent when you play, or speakers so loud that you damage your hearing. I got years ago when it just released, but never got any use for it. I thought maybe I could use it to fake a bass guitar or crazily downtune it, but no. Sadly, my worst purchase, along with Dark Matter od.

Well faking a bass guitar is already not a great idea. Just play a bass. But when used properly this pedal works great! 🤘🏼😜

Thanks! It’s the LTD TE-200 that I modded to be a BEAST! Check it out ➡️ kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ga6TgLNz3prGYKs.html 🤘🏼😜

I’ve always wanted to try a Guitar with Variax Tech in it.. never had the chance. Its all about Processing Power. Like the Kemper’s Transpose feature is really accurate. But still gets fuzzy when you push it too far.. not sure we’ll ever really crack this nut, but there are certainly cool options! 🤘🏼😜

Thanks for the compliment! There should be "minimal" effect to your tone. So it only drops the pitch. Its a great pedal, especially for Floyd Players!! ...but new Guitars are cool too. 😉 🤘🏼😜

I'm publishing a new video about this pedal this Sunday! I put a bunch of use cases to the test! Turn on All Notifications so you don't miss it! 🤘🏼😜

With a pitch shifter pedal there will always be a small amount of latency. But it’s totally usable. As I mention in the video, it should only give you trouble when you’re tuning it down a lot. 2-4 steps and thats about the limit. 🤘🏼😜

You’ll really only hear artifacts when you tune it down below 3-4 steps. There’s minimal latency to be concerned with, its really just the warble sounding digital artifacts. 🤘🏼😜

I think you should be able to find one secondhand without issue. 🤘🏼😜

Ha! Awesome! Snag one and enjoy! 🤘🏼😜

It will work to Detune an Acoustic Guitar.. however I feel like it may not sound as good as it does with an Electric because the Acoustic is much more Transparent. And unfortunately it does not pitch things up… only “Drops”. Thanks for the questions! 🤘🏼😜

@@MadManMusic Thanks for the reply dude, much appreciated, I think the first person who invents this kind of pedal for the acoustic is going to be a millionaire ha ha Cheers man

It is great! It just HUGE! 🤣 I have an old Classic Whammy tucked away. I don't think I'll ever part with it. 🤘🏼😜

@@MadManMusic yeah its really huge. Half of my Board is this pedal. But i just like it so much 👍🏻

Well if you enjoy it then its worth it!! 💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼 🤘🏼😜

Well drop A is pretty low. The pedal works best in standard tuning. Thats what it was designed for, I would assume. How many intervals are you pitching it down? 🤘🏼😜

Truthfully I have not come across one that works as well as the Drop Does. Outside of paying a bit more for a larger more capable Effects Processor. Definitely keep an eye on the Second Hand Market! 🤘🏼😜

Real Time Transposition is Tough no matter what. I’ve had much more luck with a physical pedal than with any VSTs.. they are fine when you’re in the mixing process, but not in the “Live” setting. They add a lot of latency.. 🤘🏼😜

@@MadManMusic didn't have a problem with latency with the pedal or the vst. But everything unter standard D becomes mud when played as a chord. The drop is still fine but the pitchproof isn't. But to it's credit, I think this vst is over 10 years old, I really need to try something from DSP for example.

Yep! That will work! 🤘🏼😜

2 Steps Down. It will pick up whatever actually tuning you’re using and begin to pitch it down! Thanks for the question! 🤘🏼😜

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Awesome I hope you love it! 😭😭😭 🤘🏼😜

I agree, it works pretty well in the first few steps.. but starts to get squirrelly after that. Glad its workin for ya! 🤘🏼😜

Btw the Alice Profile Pic is Rad! Love both of those games! 🤘🏼😜

Im glad it works so well for you! 🤘🏼😜

Absolutely! If thats something people would be into, I can make a Sequel "How Low Can We Go" 🤘🏼😜

@@MadManMusic - awesome. Do it!. Definitely interested to see at what point it starts to fall apart.

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Probably would be great with helix as a pre signal or loop. This way you can free up processing poseer and if you’re not using it as a loop you can free up a slot. The variax was great for that

It would total work well in front of the Helix. I wouldnt recommend it being in the loop. You want it to process your cleanest signal. So it needs to be one of the first pedals in the chain. 🤘🏼😜

No Pedal, I use EVH 5153 Amps! 🤘🏼😜

Nice! That would be a compact rig! 🤘🏼😜

Yup! It will work really well within that range. 4 half steps down started to get a little wobbly… but depending on what style of music you’re playing really all of the options are usable in one way or another. But from D to C standard, it wont even break a sweat! 🤘🏼😜

@@MadManMusic hell yeah thats so awesome to know, definitely wanting to buy one now although I can’t seem to find any stores that stock them in my country. Its gonna make playing so much more fun without having to spend an hour doing tuning

@cxrrupttt Do you have Reverb.com? I’m not sure it will be all that helpful with shipping prices, but its worth a look. 🤘🏼😜

@@MadManMusic yeah ive got that completely forgot about it, will definitely have a look on there

​@@MadManMusicHi, if I'm in D Standard, can I get E Standard? If not, what other pedal does this?

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Not this pedal. The Whammy with this feature built in can. 🤘🏼😜

I think its pretty comparable. I also have a Kemper and if I were in a situation where I needed to detune my entire guitar all as once I think I would choose to use the Drop over the Kemper just so save on processing power. But really it probably wouldn't matter that much. The Kemper (as well as all the other high dollar modelers) is very capable! I hope that helps! 🤘🏼😜

@@MadManMusic thank you for the reply!

Yup! As long as your clean guitar Signal is being fed into it, it will work fine. So put it “first” in your chain. After tuners and gates. 🤘🏼😜

@@MadManMusic amazing. Thank you. I'm ordering now. I love playing my LP but I always kept it in 1/2 step down, so I couldn't use it for standard stuff. I'm so happy now!

Awesome! Enjoy!! 🤘🏼😜

@@MadManMusic hey where would I put a compressor? I have a keeled comp and wanna know if it needs to go before or after. Thnx

After. There shouldn’t be anything before the Drop that modifies your clean signal. Gates and Tuners are fine. 🤘🏼😜

Only down on the “Drop”. There is a much larger “Whammy” Pedal with a Detuning Feature with more options include Tuning Up. Might be worth checking out! 🤘🏼😜

I did a full test in this video ➡️ kzfaq.info/get/bejne/q6qPlMZj1r6Uimg.html 🤘🏼😜

I mentioned in the video the pedal runs on 9v 300mA. Thats is Crazy Light! I’ve only ever known one person to play 8’s. A boss of mine back in the day. 8’s and Suuuuuper Tiny Frets. But man.. thats Strat played like Butter! 🤘🏼😜

@@MadManMusic yeah man it's light but it will help the players that are having "tone killer" problems w it.

I think I’m gonna have to get a set of these and try em out.. 🤔 🤘🏼😜

Thats like digging a hole, putting a ladder in it to stand at ground level. Pretty dumb

It pitches down every string equally, so it all depends which tuning you begin in. If you start in E Standard, you will have to play E standard power chords no matter how much you pitch shift with the pedal. Likewise, if you start in drop D, you'll continue to play drop d power chords after pitching down.

@@shemaghs9984 doesn’t answer the question.since both e standard and d are considered power chords regardless the question is do you play the chords as if it’s still in e standard or do you switch to playing the day d tuning as a power chord using all 3 fingers or do you just switch to playing as if it’s d tuned which you only need one finder to activate the power chords is the wuestion

The pedal will “drop” the pitch of any signal going into it. So it will not change your “type” of tuning. If you’re in standard tuning, you will remain in standard tuning. 🤘🏼😜

@@MadManMusic that doesn’t answer the question I’m not talking about the running I’m talking about the finger placement I have an understanding of the pedal and what it does but y’all fail to answer the finger placement.so the question is if I’m in e standard and I’m using 3 fingers to play power chords like most players do.then I hit the pedal and drop to D.do I play the chords like if e standard with all 3 fingers or do I switch to play it as if it was d tuned and only play using one finger to press the power chord like I’m d tuning.so the question isn’t about that it’s about finger placement🤦‍♂️

@@JulioHernandez-vi9to If you are in E standard and use the pedal to drop to D, it will not exclusively pitch down the low string in a conventional Drop D sense; it will pitch shift all of the strings down, which means you'll continue to play in E Standard power chord formation (3 fingers).

I did a video where I tested it with all kinds of different things including Acoustic. ➡️ kzfaq.info/get/bejne/q6qPlMZj1r6Uimg.htmlsi=pVTsXCZ-VjYAn5Cy 🤘🏼😜

Absolutely! Again, I would use it Sparingly. Its great for the 1 or 2 Oddball Songs that are Detuned a bit. I wouldn’t use it “Always On” so to speak. Thanks for watching!! 🤘🏼😜

They should do a Stephen Carpenter signature version, where they just replace the numbered step increments with Deftones album covers

This makes too much sense.. 🙈

Yup! Any guitar! 🤘🏼😜

Yup! For sure. Although, I would say “keys” but “tunings” rather. As mentioned in the video the Drop works best if you keep it around 1 - 2 steps down. Any more and you’re gonna get some artifacts. Thanks for the question! 🤘🏼😜

@@MadManMusic Thanks so much!

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Im glad its workin well for ya! 🤘🏼😜

No, this will detune the entire guitar. So Standard D. 🤘🏼😜

@@MadManMusic ok thanks

Tune to drop D and you can use it to go to drop C# or lower

Im glad it worked for you! 🤘🏼😜

😂 the pedal should be called drop shit

@@Cognitoman They're all bad if you play at home, where you usually don't have high enough volume to NOT hear the guitar's unplugged sound. It's the worst, sounds SO out of tune...

@@olebrumme6356 lol yeah haha , it’s like the first you smoke weed and everything feels delayed lol

It sounds pretty transparent to me… So long as Im not dropping it down to the extreme. Then of course it has a hard time keeping up. Thanks for watching! 🤘🏼😜

​@@MadManMusici agree with you. It's pretty transparent in a standard e guitar . But i guess you wouldn't equalize a standard E 6 setting the same way you would EQ an 8 dropped string guitar.. so if you would use it to it's extreme that would be a factor to take in.. i had a whammy several years ago.. i never used it past 3semitones .. but when I used the lower (at least my lower tuning) i instantly use another preset with different gain and EQ in my pedalboard to compensate a little the sound post whammydroped Even if you use an 8 string guitar the same EQ that I use in my 6 just doesn't fit the same ..

Well it depends on which “D” you’re trying to get to. More realistically it would work for you to go from Drop D to Drop B, yes. 🤘🏼😜

@@MadManMusic basically i play for a metal band, but sometimes i play a commercial songs. Hehe

Well this wont tune Up, only Down. 🤘🏼😜

@@MadManMusic is there a good sounding pedal that would take an Eb guitar and tune it up to 440 without sounding glitchy?

You could try the Full Blown Whammy with the “Detune” feature. 🤘🏼😜

💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼 I like all forms of heaviness! 🤘🏼😜

@@MadManMusic Hey Mad Man. Here's a music video using the drop. It's dropped down to C. No computers used. It's all in fun! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qb6Pa72j39m2epc.html

Sounds BIG! 🤘🏼😜

@@MadManMusic I'm a 60 year old metal head. I retired from the band life. This is how I get my jollys now. Have a good 🌃 night. I'll check out more of your channel in the next couple of days.

Thats awesome! Well welcome! Thanks for being here. I strive for good vibes and I try to be helpful so when you have questions, feel free to ask em! 🤘🏼😜

Each adjustment is one “Half Step”. 2 is a Whole. 🤘🏼😜

Hopefully someone can answer this. I dont own any Fractal gear. I have a kemper and it works just as well as the built in effect on it. 🤘🏼😜

@@MadManMusic I found a KZfaq short comparing the two, very similar. Also, there's some discussion about it on Fractal forums. They're very close.

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No, Its the TE-200! Check it out! ➡️ Turn The LTD TE-200 Into A BEAST FAST! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ga6TgLNz3prGYKs.html 🤘🏼😜

Right!? If only I had this pedal when I was in my teens man. 🤘🏼😜

Yup! It will! 🤘🏼😜

Meh... The extra output does add some signal for the pedal to chew on... but not enough to make it work better than it does with passives. 🤘🏼😜

The actual Whammy Pedal with the Tuning Feature goes up. It takes up a lot of pedalboard real estate though… 🤘🏼😜

@@MadManMusic Cool, from your experience does it heavily change the tone when going up like other wah/wammy pedals? looking for something suited for bass.

You’re get Processing “Artifacts”, this like Digital Warble Sound, when you go too far with it. This will happen with any transpose effect you use from any brand. Thats it. Otherwise, it doesn’t usual effect your tone. 🤘🏼😜

Yes! Though just like with guitar, I wouldn't recommend dropping more than a whole step. 🤘🏼😜

@@MadManMusic Great, thank you.

Ha! Enjoy! 🤘🏼😜

If its coming through the amp and it wasn’t set to the “Dry+Octave” setting its definitely defective.. sorry to hear that. Thanks for sharing. 🤘🏼😜

I think I mentioned that in the video. But It depends on the use-case. I'll actually be Publishing a New Video on this very topic this Sunday! Turn on "All Notifications" So you don't miss it! 🤘🏼😜

@@MadManMusic yeah. I noticed that lol, just commented early

Does this apply from the starting point of the natural tuning? My band is about to go to drop G on a 7 string and I want to use this for dropping it 1 more semi-tone to drop F#. Better to start in G# and just do the 1 semi instead of standard down 3-4 semis?

@@ChrisKennedyGuitars yeah pretty much I’d day no more then 3 semitones but if you can only go down 2 semitones for best results. I’d just try it out and see how it works.

@@Cognitoman That’s what I wanted to hear- actually buying it right now, so thank you!

Having the full functionality of the DT would be great, but the footprint of that pedal is massive… whereas the Drop is nice and compact. But sure! If you can spare the cash and the pedal board space. 🤘🏼😜

Thats a good point, I’ll see about doing a clean demo. 💪🏼 🤘🏼😜

@@MadManMusic Cool. I haven't been able to find a clean demo of the pedal anywhere so you'll be cornering a market lol.

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No. It will drop your whole guitar. There is nothing that only drops specific notes yet. 🤘🏼😜

Thank you, Have to drop for one song and I have a trem, haha....spare guitar is the only easy way, thanks@@MadManMusic

That sounds a lot like there’s an issue with your guitar’s pickups and or wiring… What kind of guitar and pickup are your using? As for the Drop, it works excellent for live use. People play stadiums with it. If you stay within 2-3 half steps you’re fine. Beyond that you get some flubby latency. 🤘🏼😜

@@MadManMusic Happens with Gibson alnico 2's and emg 81/85 pickups. No issues with other pedals.

Hmm. You may have a faulty unit. Is it first in your chain (after a tuner and gate)?

@@MadManMusic That may be. Tried it before and after tuner and gate. Also tried it after the overdrive pedal.

Less trolling, more keeping unhelpful criticisms to yourself 🤘🏼😜

Its not fat.. its just big boned.. 🙈 🤘🏼😜

Well its not “old” tech… its the only tech. There is no more “modern” pedal that works any better than this. I have even tried it against the Transpose effect on my Kemper and it works just as well. 🤷🏻‍♂️ But I am sorry it didn’t work well for you. I hope you find a tool that works better for you. 💪🏼 🤘🏼😜

Unfortunately there will alway be a slight lag as the pedal processes the signal. And the lower you go, both in tuning and with the Drop, the more noticeable it will be.. How far are you pitching the pedal down? And where is the Pedal in your Signal Chain? Sorry to hear you're having trouble with it.. 🤘🏼😜

@@MadManMusic I'm going directly into the Drop, then into my amp from the Drop. The signal lags slightly even only tuned down a 1/2 step. It's to the point of being unusable, drives me crazy.

Im sorry.. it takes a lot of processing power to process signals in real time.. No one has perfected it. Kemper’s Transpose feature is pretty decent because they have the power to process the signal.. If you really need the ability to transpose down, it might be worthwhile to check out a more powerful processor. I hope that helps. 🤘🏼😜

@@MadManMusic I get it, man. Not sure why Digitech would put out a product the sole purpose of which is to drop tune a guitar or bass, but the product cannot effectively do so without a lag. The lag makes this pedal essentially useless in a live situation. (I suppose you can work around it recording in the studio at lower volume.)

Maybe this is the case with bass. But for guitar it’s quite useable if you dont push it more than a wholestep down. I wouldn’t use it for recording. Recording is much more transparent than live performance. But again, I’m sorry it didn’t work well for you.. 😞 If you do find something that works, please let is know and I’ll try to test it! 🤘🏼😜