Dangerous USB phone chargers 8

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DiodeGoneWild

DiodeGoneWild

2 жыл бұрын

There's never enough of dodgy USB phone chargers. Let test another 2 pieces and let's see what's inside. Some questionable chargers may not comply with safety regulations and they may cause an electric shock or fire. Their current rating may be fake and they can damage your devices.
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@michaelfisher9671
@michaelfisher9671 2 жыл бұрын
It’s funny how close some of these come to being safe. So little would need to change for the first one to be non-dodgy
@WagTsX
@WagTsX 2 жыл бұрын
true, I was rooting for it since the beginning. What a shame!
@DrHouse-zs9eb
@DrHouse-zs9eb 2 жыл бұрын
There was some "fine" one's before already...
@wychowanek90
@wychowanek90 2 жыл бұрын
I'd call the first one "slightly dodgy"
@shindvs
@shindvs 2 жыл бұрын
His knowledge is very very High
@Conservator.
@Conservator. 2 жыл бұрын
I thought so too but then I wondered if the first one would overheat too when overloaded.
@moeinsp2027
@moeinsp2027 2 жыл бұрын
i missed your cat and some doggy charger review 👍 thanks to best electronic teacher ever 🙏
@HDXFH
@HDXFH 2 жыл бұрын
Doggy charger lol
@TheXGamer969
@TheXGamer969 2 жыл бұрын
I think it would be valid (even necessary), to test at the max voltage the supply outputs because the device plugged into it will negotiate the max voltage it can, it can’t read that the supply wasn’t rated for that voltage. It’s even more dangerous that the supply can negotiate a voltage it’s not rated for!
@Zebra_Paw
@Zebra_Paw 2 жыл бұрын
For the first charger, you should definitely have tested 12V in a long run, because what if you plug a phone that can ask for 12V? It has to still work as the phone would probably say OK to 9V if the charger couldn't give 12V. EDIT: for 18W power supplies that can work with 100V input voltage, the smoothing capacitor should be like 33uF, not just 6.8uF. You should test them at 100V in your variac to see if they start cycling when you load them significantly.
@meherhjb7170
@meherhjb7170 2 жыл бұрын
hummmm may be you should open a youtube channel ;)
@cheber5239
@cheber5239 2 жыл бұрын
I love this series! Thank you for filming it!
@LawpickingLocksmith
@LawpickingLocksmith 2 жыл бұрын
Very informative! Huge thanks. Makes me realise as a former r&d lab technician this is truly scary. I will stick to originals from now! And on top you accent sounds very nice. Great video!
@Conservator.
@Conservator. 2 жыл бұрын
Hi DiodeGoneWild, Could you perhaps also measure the ripple of the output of these chargers? I think you’ll find significant differences between the chargers. I noticed that when I charge my phone with certain chargers, I can hardly use it during charging. I assume that those chargers have too much ripple but I don’t know for sure.
@bdf2718
@bdf2718 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like excessive ripple. Could even be a capacitive dropper...
@1pcfred
@1pcfred 2 жыл бұрын
I just left that comment myself.
@Luke-san
@Luke-san 2 жыл бұрын
Or output some serious RFI /or EMI but I guess that would be difficult to measure. Let me guess, scrolling is an issue when connected to some chargers?
@1pcfred
@1pcfred 2 жыл бұрын
@@Luke-san you can get a fairly good idea of the RF and EMI with an AM radio. You can definitely tell if more filtering and shielding is in order.
@Conservator.
@Conservator. 2 жыл бұрын
@@Luke-san exactly! How did you know? 😜🤣
@WizardTim
@WizardTim 2 жыл бұрын
I think it would be worthwhile to look at the DC output with an oscilloscope. I’m currently making a video about a USB phone charger I bought off Amazon, while the output voltage stays well above the minimum voltage and it doesn’t overheat and shutdown, there’s about 2 V pk-pk on the output due to a not low enough ESR output capacitor and lack of a snubber network on the synchronous rectifier. My charger also had the same sticky yellow stuff in the plastic case, I thought it was probably lubricant from the injection molding machine, there was also some black stuff around the ejector pin marks.
@SeanBZA
@SeanBZA 2 жыл бұрын
Likely excess glue from the solvent welding as well, as hand assembly is probably using a piece off wood to dab a blob around the case then shoving the board in, then the top cover. Using whatever glue they find cheap, and thenn adding extra thinners to make it last longer and not be as thick.
@terry241
@terry241 2 жыл бұрын
Hi DiodeGoneWild, I really enjoy your your analysis technique of electronic devices... you explain things so well with reasons why parts are good or bad... I particularly enjoy your cat's comments from time to time... they actually make me laugh at times... Thanks for your very professional presentations on KZfaq.
@AmigaWolf
@AmigaWolf 2 жыл бұрын
Always great to see a new video of a guy who know a LOT about electronics, and sings when he talks. If my father hears you talks he always say is that the singing man again?
@a.lisnenko
@a.lisnenko 2 жыл бұрын
Danyk, when you will start to use a designated USB QC Trigger port on the electronic load? It will eliminate some voltage drop on the trigger. It is the one that is pointing UP!
@scroungasworkshop4663
@scroungasworkshop4663 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t really understand electronics I just like listening to the commentary. Well done and thanks. Cheers Stuart
@d.jensen5153
@d.jensen5153 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your thoroughness! Both testing and disassembly were fascinating. Were the secondary diodes silicon or Schottky?
@deejayitalo
@deejayitalo 2 жыл бұрын
Please make a review of an Baseus 65W GaN Charger. Would be nice to see if it is a serious charger, because it costs about 30$
@Conservator.
@Conservator. 2 жыл бұрын
16:22 Note that the large diode could have been installed so that it would have been further away from the electrolytic capacitor.🤓
@michaelfisher9671
@michaelfisher9671 2 жыл бұрын
Well spotted. Very good point and such an easy improvement.
@GodLike-pe6kj
@GodLike-pe6kj 2 жыл бұрын
Its really scary how crappy the isolation between primary and secondary is on these chargers. 3mm creepage distance is sketchy at best, considering you need ~500V/mm to arc along a creepage path, so a 2 kV spike during a lightning strike would probably jump the gap. They even put a slot in the second charger, just not where it actually mattered...
@oldblokeh
@oldblokeh 2 жыл бұрын
The pink transformer in the second charger is a Big Clive special.
@bdf2718
@bdf2718 2 жыл бұрын
You beat me to it. As soon as I saw the pink tape I though of Clive.
9 ай бұрын
We finally got "Origianl" again @ 1:05. When I saw it the first time in one of your older videos I really needed to laugh.
@esunayg
@esunayg 2 жыл бұрын
it would be nice to test the transformer on 2kv isolation tester. what do you think?
@Langendimi555
@Langendimi555 2 жыл бұрын
Fast charging and fast opening 🤣
@mfbfreak
@mfbfreak 2 жыл бұрын
That 'safety capacitor' in the first one looks like the inscriptions have been made by hand. Like, as if they were drawn by hand and then laser etched. I would suspect it is a normal 1kv non Y-rated capacitor, with some markings added to it to make it look like an actual Y class capacitor.
@puckcat22679
@puckcat22679 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I noticed that as well. They used a hand engraver to mark it. However, in the past, he's given a rating of "dodgy" to devices with a 1kv capacitor as well, provided they're otherwise ok, so that probably wouldn't really change the final verdict. He seems to assign the highest priority to isolation distances, which is reasonable.
@westelaudio943
@westelaudio943 2 жыл бұрын
No it's too thick for a normal cap. It's shaped like a safety one.
@eDoc2020
@eDoc2020 2 жыл бұрын
@@westelaudio943 They make ordinary caps in the same package as safety ones.
@westelaudio943
@westelaudio943 2 жыл бұрын
@@eDoc2020 I don't think faking them is actually worth it. The real ones aren't even that ecpensive so why would you go through the hassle of faking them?
@Gooberslot
@Gooberslot 2 жыл бұрын
The board on the second one says QC2 even though the package says "Quick Charge 3.0."
@williefleete
@williefleete 2 жыл бұрын
I bet a megger test would punch through the lacquer of that
@enzoperruccio
@enzoperruccio 2 жыл бұрын
Experience has taught me to always avoid anything that has the word "original" written over it. 99.9% of the time the product is fake and of very bad quality.
@takeo3998
@takeo3998 2 жыл бұрын
Well, the first one was 'Origianl'
@enzoperruccio
@enzoperruccio 2 жыл бұрын
@@takeo3998 AND, it actually turned out to be acceptable. See? My thought process is untouchable lol
@Mr_LMM
@Mr_LMM 2 жыл бұрын
These type of videos are old but gold!
@hugoegon8148
@hugoegon8148 2 жыл бұрын
"Al Jazira Original"? 😳 I would not even touch it and call the bomb disposal squad. 😁
@meherhjb7170
@meherhjb7170 2 жыл бұрын
nice work as always mr diode 💘😎
@Random_4400
@Random_4400 2 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite series!
@DigitalBhangari
@DigitalBhangari 2 жыл бұрын
Is it just me or is that molten hair dryer getting more molten every time
@johncoops6897
@johncoops6897 2 жыл бұрын
I think the hair drier was what dripped it's oozing goop into the 2nd USB enclosure.
@mh0rst
@mh0rst 2 жыл бұрын
Love it when they even spell "Original" wrong (1:05).
@WagTsX
@WagTsX 2 жыл бұрын
also such a Samsung logo ripoff
@markiangooley
@markiangooley 2 жыл бұрын
An original spelling?
@LabArlyn
@LabArlyn 2 жыл бұрын
Origianl 🤣 Dodgy spelling.
@johngarritzcx6733
@johngarritzcx6733 2 жыл бұрын
SuUUPEER DOODGYYY😅😅😅
@Mohammed-cc1jz
@Mohammed-cc1jz 2 жыл бұрын
1:5
@jek__
@jek__ 2 жыл бұрын
Very thorough!
@MirceaD28
@MirceaD28 2 жыл бұрын
The transformer flew away. But it should come back since is a fly-back transformer, right?!
@Broken_Yugo
@Broken_Yugo 2 жыл бұрын
Have you ever considered testing these sketchy transformers on some sort of variable HV supply to see where they fail? I'm fairly certain they'll fail as everyone predicts, but I've never seen it confirmed.
@longrunner258
@longrunner258 2 жыл бұрын
The first one sure looked familiar, so I checked and it's indeed the same one as #7 from your first round-up, including the manufacture date (or at least that claimed). They even made that same mess on the USB port soldering! This would retroactively invalidate the "NICE" conclusion from then.
@sparqz1
@sparqz1 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this video, I now see phone chargers in a completely different light, and probably other cheap power supplies too!
@fahrizalu
@fahrizalu 2 жыл бұрын
at 1:06 the word "TEGLISTRIK" -> "Tegangan Listrik" Indonesian (or Malay) word for Voltage. Also Frekuensi came from Indonesian/Malay laguage
@Isolierter_Hazim
@Isolierter_Hazim 2 жыл бұрын
It's Indonesian. If it's Malay, it'll simply be "Frekuensi Elektrik"
@Emre-24
@Emre-24 2 жыл бұрын
02:24 I think the QC Trigger can be plugged in the usb port of your dc load.
@darkallyrecordings4931
@darkallyrecordings4931 2 жыл бұрын
Lol! I can't help it. I had a Sesame Street flashback. "1,2,3....3 turns ah ah ah!" Great video sir!
@kemalkurt5257
@kemalkurt5257 2 жыл бұрын
I had a lenovo phone and i am still using it's charger, it is getting a bit hot in operation but never get too hot. It works more 4 years without any problem. I am expecting to see it's internals.
@MiamiMillionaire
@MiamiMillionaire 2 жыл бұрын
With these cheap charging devices, a long-term test would be interesting ( how long they work and what kind of failure recurs )
@danmanmgm
@danmanmgm 2 жыл бұрын
We've seen a lot of dodgy supplies here. Do you plan to make a test of some good examples? Something what you can buy here in EU? I wonder if they will be really better.
@electroumit
@electroumit 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Good work.
@3ccdmike
@3ccdmike 2 жыл бұрын
You test beyond real world, my phone asks for less than your test shows.
@debeeriz
@debeeriz 2 жыл бұрын
any chance of testing oem, eg samsung, apple, or have you done that already
@emmanuelsebua1445
@emmanuelsebua1445 2 жыл бұрын
Where can I find a USB test load like the one you have?
@windward2818
@windward2818 2 жыл бұрын
I am curious if DGW had to design a safe grounded charger what features he would include. So let's say the charger will use a three prong plug, which includes ground, instead of being double insulated. What would the design look like?
@TechGorilla1987
@TechGorilla1987 2 жыл бұрын
@1:11 - "teg listrik" is Indonesian for "Electric Plug." apparently.
@nicenice3355
@nicenice3355 2 жыл бұрын
I love this video series
@Shadow_of_STLKR
@Shadow_of_STLKR 2 жыл бұрын
You can plug 9V trigger in upper USB port of load with. So no voltage drop. It just need data pins.
@chargehanger
@chargehanger 2 жыл бұрын
Cat : Your transformer flew away again ! You : Of course ! it's a Flyback !
@andyapple9
@andyapple9 2 жыл бұрын
Please make a video showing how to modify a 12V half-bridge SMPS to a variable output!. Thank you sir!
@robertthompson5908
@robertthompson5908 2 жыл бұрын
“This doesn’t start well.” I’m laughing my a&$ off.
@kapegede
@kapegede 2 жыл бұрын
On the backside "Origianl". 🤣
@jms019
@jms019 2 жыл бұрын
First time I've seen pink tape ! I still sit here chanting "Super Dodgy" before he says it.
@botialoach1
@botialoach1 2 жыл бұрын
Where did you get the USB Voltage and amps meter you have link ?
@elsequitoelsen4779
@elsequitoelsen4779 2 жыл бұрын
I have using original samsung 5v 2 amp charger but when i charging powerbank its gettin too hot is it dangerous ?
@nowheremanjk8624
@nowheremanjk8624 2 жыл бұрын
It is a pity that you do not check the voltage transients (ripple) at the output of the charger with the oscilloscope. This is probably the most important parameter.
@Broken_Yugo
@Broken_Yugo 2 жыл бұрын
A quick interference test with a pocket radio could be an interesting additional test.
@denisschneider5642
@denisschneider5642 2 жыл бұрын
You can plug the Quick Charge Trigger into the USB Port on the USB Load. Saves a bit on the clutter
@sandyblade007
@sandyblade007 6 ай бұрын
Both transformers have only one secondary winding., so how does it supply different voltages
@VictronixCZ
@VictronixCZ 2 жыл бұрын
Ahoj, testoval jsi někdy nabíječ, který měl dobře navinutý transformátor a byl bezpečný? Nebo byly všechny dodgy. Hi, have you tested a safe charger anytime? With safely wounded transformer? Or all were dodgy?
@senorcapitandiogenes2068
@senorcapitandiogenes2068 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder how dodgy my Anker PSUs are. They are tiny and can supply so much power
@elyeryan8838
@elyeryan8838 2 жыл бұрын
GaN transistors are no joke
@alexanderbolshakov2747
@alexanderbolshakov2747 2 жыл бұрын
Anker chargers should be very nice, since it's a reputable brand (some time ago their GaN powerbanks were even sold in Apple Store). Personally I own their nano 20w Type-C charger and charge a really HUGE Xiaomi 30000 MAh powerbank with it (obviously, at the charger's maximum available power). And if I touch the charger during operation, it's warm, but definitely not hot. If you want a disassembly video, there is one on ChargerLAB channel (without transformer autopsy).
@bdf2718
@bdf2718 2 жыл бұрын
In the first one, the lead of the diode was close to the electrolytic. In the second one the body of the diode was close to the electrolytic. The thermal problem with the second is a lot worse than the first. There was no reason why the diode in the second could not have been mounted like the first, it just needs the other lead to be left long and bent. The way the second did it was an unforced error.
@PiotrK
@PiotrK 2 жыл бұрын
In one of your old videos you already tested the algazira original chargers and they were trusted ones
@Bianchi77
@Bianchi77 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video, thanks :)
@nalindisanayaka6220
@nalindisanayaka6220 Жыл бұрын
Hello Sir , Please let me know where we can buy USB Isolator . Thank you
@VOLTRONDEFENDER4440
@VOLTRONDEFENDER4440 2 жыл бұрын
That orginal charger was in a different video saying they were safe but ended up being dodgy
@allcrafter3747
@allcrafter3747 2 жыл бұрын
The first one was an origianal again. Two times this brand made a good charger. Sadly can't find these. Can anyone?
@nicholasvalentine3907
@nicholasvalentine3907 2 жыл бұрын
The first one's lightening symbol hardly lends itself to a confident feeling, however it does look a lot like Tannoy's original logo, which is nice!
@Stelios.Posantzis
@Stelios.Posantzis 2 жыл бұрын
awesome video
@medvidekkrupicka1404
@medvidekkrupicka1404 2 жыл бұрын
A čímpak to natáčíte? Máte moc pěkný obraz.
@shubhankarghosh
@shubhankarghosh 2 жыл бұрын
Please make some videos about different LED bulb drivers
@joelllamocuro.3735
@joelllamocuro.3735 2 жыл бұрын
2:03 ajajajaja, me alegraste el dia. Tome su like buen hombre!
@Grizzly_Lab
@Grizzly_Lab 2 жыл бұрын
_Now let's try to switch to 9V using this test tool..._ 😱😱😱🤣🤣🤣🤣 ok, that was MORE than unexpected
@ricardoelectronicsrepair
@ricardoelectronicsrepair 2 жыл бұрын
TEGLISTRIK (tengangan listrik) is indonesian mean voltage.
@indask8
@indask8 2 жыл бұрын
10:30 It would have been nice if they added a longer copper wire.
@Denis7947.
@Denis7947. 3 ай бұрын
The first charger made me laught so hard😂
@shayhsopwagqehghggtfyggty2635
@shayhsopwagqehghggtfyggty2635 2 жыл бұрын
AMAZING SOME MORE DODGY STUFF COMING :)
@HogwartsBasement
@HogwartsBasement 2 жыл бұрын
The constantly accentuated sentence endings make me think it’s leading to something shocking
@Rainbow__cookie
@Rainbow__cookie 2 жыл бұрын
I like how orginal tries to copy s Samsung charger then it's not orginal
@weerobot
@weerobot 2 жыл бұрын
Worth it for The Hologram alone..lol
@chillinfartdotcc
@chillinfartdotcc 2 жыл бұрын
is a good idea to make a heat sink for diodes? I used aluminium paper and thermal pads for that purpose in modems using the non metallic part of the device, also
@johncoops6897
@johncoops6897 2 жыл бұрын
Diodes that are carrying big power get bloody hot. This thing is pushing 3A or more through a diode only rated at 3A max, and there is no air circulation inside there. But there is no way to add a heatsink on that axial lead type device. Proper power supplies use those "double diodes" which are 3 pin in a TOx style package that's designed to be bolted to a heatsink. A diode in a modem isn't going to get hot is it?
@chillinfartdotcc
@chillinfartdotcc 2 жыл бұрын
@@johncoops6897 mine can, due to bad ISP. I used aluminium "paper" as heat sink for that device, since i can't use something bigger.
@johncoops6897
@johncoops6897 2 жыл бұрын
@@chillinfartdotcc - the diodes are on the power supply, nothing whatsoever to do with the ISP. Of course, Modems that are supplied by the ISP are notoriously low quality, since they buy the cheapest ones they can get. So you might be better just buying a better modem, which might also improve internet speed too!
@chillinfartdotcc
@chillinfartdotcc 2 жыл бұрын
@@johncoops6897 I have years checking issues like traffic shaping and other bad measures. Overheating from modems comes from traffic handling by ISP in many cases. My question was pointing to put aluminium above diodes to move heat since as we know, modems has not enough space. In my case, i used aluminium foil behind the cover (above SIM and above non metallic part of it) to avoid any problem with the little antenna from modem.
@johncoops6897
@johncoops6897 2 жыл бұрын
@@chillinfartdotcc - You would probably have significantly more success if you put the aluminium foil on your head, rather than inside the modem.
@windward2818
@windward2818 2 жыл бұрын
It disassembled itself. LOL
@uK8cvPAq
@uK8cvPAq 2 жыл бұрын
You should get an insulation resistance tester to test these things.
@brooknet
@brooknet 2 жыл бұрын
Don't turn it on - wait until it falls apart! (Sorry, Dave Jones)..
@BDYT1422
@BDYT1422 Жыл бұрын
16:50 killed me XDD
@agustinusreynaldi7101
@agustinusreynaldi7101 2 жыл бұрын
I can SMELL the DODGYNESS
@johncoops6897
@johncoops6897 2 жыл бұрын
Something that confuses me in these SMPS - why do they only use ONE output diode? Doesn't that mean that half the output waveform is wasted, and hence half the power is wasted too? And then you get much more ripple on the output, requiring larger filter cap. Maybe I am missing something, but I just can't get my head around it.
@petehiggins33
@petehiggins33 2 жыл бұрын
It's a flyback converter which means that it can only deliver output power during the time that the switch is OFF. Full wave rectification is not possible.
@johncoops6897
@johncoops6897 2 жыл бұрын
@@petehiggins33 - Thanks very much! Well, that was a brain fart, considering that I know that's how they work LOL. For some reason I got stuck thinking that the secondary was putting out a full "sine wave" (referenced to something or other), despite the pulsed input on the primary. GRRR, now I feel silly.
@alparslanyilmaz3370
@alparslanyilmaz3370 2 жыл бұрын
Teşekkür ederiz, çok güzel bir çalışma olmuş
@SeanBZA
@SeanBZA 2 жыл бұрын
Copper wire or CCA, my bet is CCA, as copper is more than the cost of the device as scrap alone.
@mfr04
@mfr04 2 жыл бұрын
1:05, 1:10 That's Indonesian, maybe the charger is also sold in Indonesia.
@CheapCheerful
@CheapCheerful 2 жыл бұрын
Such a cool cat :)
@dav1dbone
@dav1dbone 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Diode, I'm interested to know how many languages you know?
@Gameplayer55055
@Gameplayer55055 2 жыл бұрын
Try to test cheap GaN chargers as well
@sohelrana.96
@sohelrana.96 2 жыл бұрын
shit..! i was thinking the 1st one to be safe, but the transformer has ruined everything at the end...xD
@heno_3098
@heno_3098 2 жыл бұрын
Overall, I do not understand the logic of using inexpensive insulating tapes to make transformers that are not temperature resistant if the windings overheat when using the charger at maximum current. The price difference of kapton tapes in this small amount per piece of charger is negligible.
@SianaGearz
@SianaGearz 2 жыл бұрын
The PSU designation in Russian is actually correct, but the font is off kilter, like they didn't know how to type Russian and resorted to doing so in Latin and shifting the letters around manually. They did mess up "vietnam" though. The "Origianl" misspelling in a Samsung oval is hilarious though.
@lauraiss1027
@lauraiss1027 2 жыл бұрын
You know it's a good charger if it says Origianl.
@marillima6350
@marillima6350 2 жыл бұрын
Super dodgy
@playbyan1453
@playbyan1453 2 жыл бұрын
1:11 they probably accidentaly write frequency in Indonesian Language so that is why it does looks weird, 2:04 lets test with 9 volt tester, *pulls out the cover and usb*. I would say thats top 1 safe usb charger.
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