KTM XC vs XC-W vs EXC What is the difference?

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Today I’m finally going to “pull back the curtain” for so many of you and explain the major differences between the KTM XC and the KTM XC-W Line. Keep in mind that generally speaking the EXC line from Europe and Australia are essentially the same thing as the XC-W line here in the USA. The main things were they differ come down to suspension and gearing. I hope you enjoy the video and learn something.
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@maxmartin-merrells3723 3 жыл бұрын

This guy is a machine. Great presenting skills and nice to have the exc and xcw misconception cleared up. Subscribed.

@hendrikkruk7268 4 жыл бұрын

Kyle looks like a real friend, like the type of guy you'd meet on the trail and like up with, great videos he's turned me into a ktm man

@kelldog44 6 жыл бұрын

Yo man I just wanted to say I've been a subscriber for over a year, you were a lot smaller channel back then! Awesome to see how you've grown into the go to channel for dirtbike information and single track/enduro riding.

@DirtBikeChannel 6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sticking around!

@Alan1michel 3 жыл бұрын

Just wanted to say that I use the air pump I bought from your website for the first time today. What a lifesaver ! great quality! I didn’t win the sweepstakes but it was money well spent

@CoolEyeColorado 5 жыл бұрын

Great explanation! Thanks for the info and clear explanation. On another note have you ever done an overview of height (seat height , rider height) for all these different brand bikes you ride/own? Those would be good videos also.

@aido_supermoto 6 жыл бұрын

Great explanation! Loving the way you are still finding ways to make videos while in recovery. Shame I can’t enter for the bike coming from Australia, all the merch is so nice, love the socks

@WomensRightsROFL 5 ай бұрын

1 hr of googling this subject didn't give me half the info you did in this quick video. Thank you sir

@outbackenduro7418 5 жыл бұрын

Great channel, good work on such diverse topics.

@joesph9748 5 жыл бұрын

Kyle great videos and info. I am picking up a 2019 KTM 300 XC-F TPI next week. It was a tough choice deciding between this bike and the XC. Your videos definitely helped. I am coming off a 450WR, hoping the xcf hits hard enough out of the hole. I ride mostly trails - classify myself as a beginner to intermediate rider but want to get better.

@SLFYSH 5 жыл бұрын

Definitely more enlightening regarding the differences between XC and XC-W, that I’ve been able to find elsewhere. Thanks.

@jcdiver522 6 жыл бұрын

Great video! Just entered the contest, fingers crossed! Just bought my first dirtbike last summer. A 2008 Yamaha ttr230, nothing special but figured it was somewhere to start. Not knowing a ton about dirtbikes when I was looking for my first one I didn’t know too much about 2 strokes and thought they were more about being on the pipe and riding balls to the wall. I’ve learned a lot about dirt bikes in general and have seen how versatile 2 strokes really are. My riding style isn’t too fast (yet) and after watching many of your videos I’ve thought a 300 xcw would be right up my alley one day.

@kendrickcarvajalguzman821 6 жыл бұрын

Dude you're doing such a great job with these videos. I've enjoyed all of them because you provide us with real useable information about the things we really need as riders. Keep up the good work and hope your good as new from your knee injury ✊ braaapp

@seller2001 3 жыл бұрын

great explanation of the differences between these bikes! KTM should definitely hire you.

@cadwarrior 6 жыл бұрын

I just came back from a Ktm demo day, had the chance to try the 250 xcw, 300 xcw tpi and carb. Based on your reviews you leaned toward the Xc, and thats the bike I own now, glad i follow your reviews, i like much better the xc, over the xcw, for the longer 1st and 2nd gear, also, i like the carb better. Thanks for your reviews! really helpfull!!

@ridetilldead3164 6 жыл бұрын

Very nice clean bike man I'm just got my bike 2019 KTM exc 300tpi in aussie.thxs for sharing the difference between each bike .r u ready to swing the leg over yet.

@marc-andrebourgoin7907 4 жыл бұрын

Just bought a xc300 and i love it best brand of bikes for sure

@jimbostud4683 6 жыл бұрын

I have been waiting for this video for years

@DirtBikeChannel 6 жыл бұрын

Sorry you had to wait so long.

@duken4evr 5 жыл бұрын

Nice video! I agree about the trans. My preference is also the XC trans, 1st is actually a little low on the "W" even in gnarly stuff, making it easier to get on the pipe and spin when you wanna grunt it. The 300 has so much grunt that it pulls the slightly taller XC 1st gear just fine in the gnar. An owner can always gear the XC down a little if 1st is too tall also. These 300s are great bikes either way - they are favorite I have ever owned. Selling my '13 TE 300 (XC-W) and just bought and '18 XC. The new e-start and counter balancer are awesome! :)

@user-lm7jq9ck4i 2 жыл бұрын

Bruh in my country KTMs are only EXC and SX

@gctrails 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks Kyle, you've helped me learn my KTM preference!

@bikersoncall Жыл бұрын

Great explanation, I didn't know why some bikes had the rear suspension links while others didn't.

@Chalz108 6 жыл бұрын

This is very good information that I did not know! I have always been curious but not enough to ask anyone. Thanks for the great and informative video.

@DirtBikeChannel 6 жыл бұрын

Happy to help.

@Chalz108 6 жыл бұрын

Dirt Bike Channel if you have linkage on your swingarm is it still safe to do log hops?

@Symnetx 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for explaining that. I own a 2008 200 XCW. And now I also know what XCW stands for. Great channel

@Gabasto 6 жыл бұрын

so is the xc w street legal in the uk and also is it avalible with eletric starter because im thinking of creating a supermoto

@Traverdale 5 жыл бұрын

I could be wrong but I think when i was researching before buying my 18 300 XC-W. The fork rake as slightly more with the XC-W

@jeremys4705 6 жыл бұрын

Good breakdown. On a side note for the shorter riders, such as myself, the linkage makes the bike sit quite a bit lower than the PDS so that is huge for me. I put the short seat on it and didn't touch anything else. A few of my previous KTM's I have had lowered due to my height and injuries and the suspension was never right. I currently have a 2017 Husky TX300 with about 210 hours on it, it's basically the same as the 300xc save a few small things. I am loving the air fork, it's also the first fork I haven't had to valve for my lighter weight. I run it at 123-127 psi. 123 for slow speed technical and 127 for desert and more open riding. Almost everyone I ride with has the XCW 6 Days or "regular" XCW and it's too tall for me when we swap bikes. The gearing is noticeably different and less gap which I prefer. I am generally in 3rd when XCW's are in 2. I am 5'9" and under 150 lbs.

@jeremys4705 6 жыл бұрын

PS Those on an XCW with RK head and/or map can also pull 3rd instead of 2nd in the same terrain.

@RacerRed 6 жыл бұрын

I prefer the wide ratio transmission, headlight, tailight, trip meter, linkage suspension, and a carburetor! 2018 Husqvarna TE250 was juuuuust right for me. Love my bike!

@jaredc3570 5 жыл бұрын

I just swooped up a left over 18 XCW 250, Loving it! I got it for $6200 before fees and taxes.

@uknowwho613 5 жыл бұрын

@@jaredc3570 where did you find that deal?!

@jaredc3570 5 жыл бұрын

Ride Now Tricities middle of December 2018 @@uknowwho613

@jimbojonesporfavor 2 жыл бұрын

This was a really informative and useful video - thank you!

@kraigvanderwyk2443 6 жыл бұрын

Hey Kyle , just ordered my shirt. Can’t wait till I win your bike. Also just subscribed, been watching all your videos for ever, all this time I thought I was already subed.

@shaydenadams270 2 жыл бұрын

did you win ?

@DirtBikeDaryl 5 жыл бұрын

Great explanation.. Thank you.

@SonnyVator 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the info, these 300 xc w are being offered at a good price right now that being said its the 2018 non fuel injected, whats your thoughts on this 300 xc w for hill climbs vs the xc,

@mikeybstunts 2 жыл бұрын

Xc all the way. For an aggressive rider anyways

@jdnagel7121 2 жыл бұрын

What’s up Kyle !! Some good info you are sharing so thank you but i would love to see you do a maintenance/settings/ do and don’t Video on the 2022 xc w 250tpi .

@bockaland 4 жыл бұрын

A brief clear and detailed explanation. Can I change the first and second gear in the XC to get the XC-W?

@maxs4986 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video! I want to go with a 300 xcw because of the pds and the light, trip computer, and taillight aswell as the enduro type gearing but i dont think i need the low 1st and 2nd gear as much

@johnb2005 4 жыл бұрын

So glad you made this video 😁👍🇺🇸

@PoppaWheelies 4 жыл бұрын

Ktm’s are so beautiful. I’ve owned Honda, yamaha and Kawasaki only my entire life for bikes , always coveted KTMS. I’m shopping for one now .

@aidangillett5396 4 жыл бұрын

Even ignoring the aesthetics, KTM's and Bergs are just much, much better bikes to tune, work on and maintain. It's blatantly obvious that KTM's were designed with some sensible engineering decisions vs the Japanese bikes that focus more on finding the exact right fastener for every single bolt hole = 423489107465981623498173 different bolts and a hell of a lot more time to do anything with them Pulling anything out of a KTM is very easy to do, and its such a pleasure to work on. PDS shocks come out in 2 bolts, thats it. You don't have to strip half the damn bike off the frame to get it out. Parts are vastly interchangeable across the board, for instance the exact same rims/hubs/bearings/spacers are used for the entire full size lineup from 125 to 500 (and even many of the adventure bikes) across years from ~2003 to 2017 I believe (with only small differences before and after that, which you can use adapters), because why the hell change it every couple years and every model like the japs do? Just engineer it PROPERLY once, and then use it over and over again. Makes parts super easy to find and very cheap 2nd hand Almost all fasteners where reasonable are the same size meaning you only need a very small toolkit to work on the entire bike etc

@tailopez5106 6 жыл бұрын

I honestly like the xcw because of the headlight and useful that could be

@kungfucommando1642 3 жыл бұрын

The problem with headlights on dirt bikes is, the front fender casts a shadow right where you need light the most.

@stefan_v_wyk4008 6 жыл бұрын

Damn thanks so.much. waited so long for this video bro!!

@DirtBikeChannel 6 жыл бұрын

Happy to help.

@diegosalazar5653 Ай бұрын

@@DirtBikeChannelwhat about the xcr-w ?

@WildEnduro 5 жыл бұрын

Hi buddy... love your channel and always been watching the tips ! thanks... Currently I'm riding a EXC-F 350 2017 and thinking on changing to a same engine size but 2020. Can you help me understand what are the differences to the 2020 EXCF ?

@TheBusta121 4 жыл бұрын

I recommend the 500

@seangaffney8583 6 жыл бұрын

Great video Kyle, very informative on the gearing. I always thought wide meant all gears were wider and assumed they would be taller, and it never made sense why that would be good in what they call the trail version. Now I understand so thank you.

@divestar1 3 жыл бұрын

Perfect explanation. The 250 xc seems to be the all-around dream bike. But here in Greece no one ,and I mean NOONE ,knows the existence of the pure XC line. Not even the sellers. Where could I find one? (And Not pay for the transfer from states 😏) Also ,great work dude. I’ve seen all your vids ,and they’re great! Thank you 🙏🏾

@richardstremlow6075 6 жыл бұрын

I’ve been wanting to hear the difference

@PRZJ91 6 жыл бұрын

The xc has the map switch where as the xcw does not, correct?

@uncledaddy6299 2 жыл бұрын

Great video thanks! You have one comparing the 2022 wr250f vs the yz250fx by chance? Thanks in advance

@grindlex9 5 жыл бұрын

Pick me pick me!!! That’s my dream dirt bike. I just bought a KLX300R which is a huge step up from my TW200. You make great videos, thanks for the content!

@redknightsr69 3 жыл бұрын

How do you like that bike?

@grindlex9 3 жыл бұрын

It’s a 2005, but I like it a lot. Runs well, good suspension, wheelie power and good gearing for putting all the way up to over 80. And fairly light. Unstressed engine, long service intervals.

@justinnichols650 5 жыл бұрын

this video answered my questions. I will be going with the XC because I like to ride fast in open desert country as well as hill climbs and fast single track riding. Will need to install a headlight though. Does anyone have a link to a good light option?

@rebelliontotyrantsisobedie5602 5 жыл бұрын

Kyle, how would you rate (1-10) both the 2020 XC and XCW in the following categories; overall suspension compliance (1-10) ; suspension ability to absorb the technical stuff (1-10); engine ability to deliver smooth controllable power (1-10) , Overall rating of the each bike best all arounder (1-10).... thanks for your time:)

@madman432000 4 жыл бұрын

I am considering an XC and gear it down if I didn't like the first and second ratios after riding for a bit, they are a good bit lighter that the EXC and XCW lines, and since I'm riding offroad only with it and not wide open terrain, mostly single track mountain and forest trails....might be a good pairing with my 500exc.

@Jortsa 5 жыл бұрын

Is there difference in SXF XC XC-W in the engine? I have heard that they have less power.Thanks in advance

@miloraca 6 жыл бұрын

I am Australian I own a 2018 XC300, I prefer the linkage suspension for my riding style, XC is readily available in Australia, but EXC,EXCF is certainly the most popular choice

@chadsanislo560 4 жыл бұрын

I have a 2014 xc-f 450 with linkage and I ride single track and atv trails and I have no issues.I have the hard plastic motor guard and my bike works great...ktm are great bikes

@brucekendall52 4 жыл бұрын

Nice info,thks.

@C_Scalese 5 жыл бұрын

Do the 2 stroke bikes use the same frame as the 4 stroke? Like could I swap a 300 2 stroke into my 500 exc-f?

@valmetremington5447 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this.

@Darco712 5 жыл бұрын

does anyone know if ktm sells XC model in Europe? i have searched for second hand ones and didn't find anything. i'm a hard enduro rider but i would like the xc because of the linkage, front suspension. and also i think that the xc should be a little lighter than the exc.

@WujPatrzalek 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for explanation, I really needed it ;)

@nickfowler125 3 жыл бұрын

Super helpful. Never knew this.

@bakwheeltango18 2 жыл бұрын

so the XCW - with the lower 1st and 2nd gear - you're probably less likely to stall in the slower harder single track trails. Thanks for this video. I just bought a preowned 2009 200 XCW.

@lukegodbout Жыл бұрын

Does anyone know how I can make my 250sx have slower gears. I’m not ready to give up track but I enjoy enduro. I’m on the clutch 99% of the time in single track. All my buddy’s with xc’s barely ride the clutch. Just smaller sprockets?

@jwill540 4 ай бұрын

I would go 1 tooth smaller on the front.

@Yuri_official_dad 5 жыл бұрын

what stand is that? good info by the way.

@raptor686bl 6 жыл бұрын

That was a great explanation!

@DirtBikeChannel 6 жыл бұрын

You are welcome.

@rellik53977 4 жыл бұрын

what would be the best street legal bike for tight single track but could also pop on the track and from time to time? was looking at the ktm 350 exc but have been venturing towards a 300 or even 250 two stroke

@williamquick6153 2 жыл бұрын

Good info. Easier said, the xc-w is more for enduro riding/racing and xc is more single track racing/jumping

@brendanmccarthy7063 6 жыл бұрын

Appreciate you making videos while in recovery

@DirtBikeChannel 6 жыл бұрын

What else would I do with my time?

@brendanmccarthy7063 6 жыл бұрын

Dirt Bike Channel fair enough but seriously your video's have helped me in more than one situation already keep it up thank you

@themotofixery 4 жыл бұрын

Id say that the xc is really for specific racing. It could be geared accordingly for your specific race/riding conditions but it has the "semi close ratio" transmission so its for specific use conditions whereas the wide ratio transmission would be better for a more wide variety of conditions without changing sprockets.

@equalizer4633 6 жыл бұрын

Hey Kyle, could you try the BRC Racing 500cc kit for the ktm 250/300? I'm very curious to hear your thoughts on a big 500 and how it works on that bike.

@georgehuffert5157 5 жыл бұрын

You need a nice fat wallet for that mod but I think it would be the best 500 ever since they haven't been any new technology on them since 1989

@jpesicka999 Жыл бұрын

BRC for Yamaha YZ250 ya but but I would stick with the KTM catalog kit for it I didn't know BRC made one for KTM..

@zane4964 6 жыл бұрын

I live in Canada and Im an hour north of North Dakota would I be able to win it if I drove to minot and met you there?

@MrBriansAmazingWorld 4 жыл бұрын

Love the EXC prior to 07 before they were street legal and you had to convert them for the street. Nothing like it.

@aquaticterrafirma 4 жыл бұрын

My 2009 400 XC-W is street legal, even has the California emissions tag on it.

@RAD_Family 6 жыл бұрын

How’s the Honda cr250 rebuild coming along?

@Wombels1987 3 жыл бұрын

hello kyle av got a 2012 xc 150 but kick start only is there any way of putting a electric start on it ,,if you could help please

@sargil100 6 жыл бұрын

Love these videos, we have a demo day soon where I live. I'm so excited to try some orange bikes! SX for me though!

@DirtBikeChannel 6 жыл бұрын

Very cool

@klecooaleksander4332 6 жыл бұрын

Sx is fucking scary man hahaha. I have owned yz/kx/rm/cr. I dont think anything even comes close to a 250sx I tried previous summer

@bobthedealer9970 6 жыл бұрын

Here in Australia the exc is the weapon of choice, I went looking for a 250xc earlier in the year and only found one of four that came into the country someone beat me to it though

@XploreEnduro 4 жыл бұрын

Kyle, now that you are doing way more hard enduro stuff would you prefer the W transmission or would you still vote on the XC? - Jamen

@dessfox8536 4 жыл бұрын

Is the motor and ignition any different between XC and XCW?

@juanjogiorgis1856 2 жыл бұрын

Great video, thank!

@jacksonclifford337 5 жыл бұрын

what stand are you using in the video

@theautopage Жыл бұрын

Can you install headlight and tail light on the XC without too much modifying?

@clappedcorsac1024 6 жыл бұрын

Would love to enter but I live in South Africa :( love your vids btw and my name is Kyle too

@lixtee4447 5 жыл бұрын

I am from KZN South Africa

@aaronvanrensburgcom 4 жыл бұрын

& I’m from cpt

@clappedcorsac1024 4 жыл бұрын

My bike has been Siezed for a year.. I'd love to win something like this. It would be the greatest thing

@Dinoxt12 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks . Good Video .

@michaelaasheim9055 6 жыл бұрын

Does the stock silencer have a forest service approved spark arrestor on the new bikes.

@harleyosterlund5796 3 жыл бұрын

Can you add a headlight and tail light to the xc line?

@bikevault2302 2 жыл бұрын

great info - thank you

@oceanschool 3 жыл бұрын

Are 1st gears the same in Both or is the xcw still a lower 1st gear then the XC

@georgehuffert5157 5 жыл бұрын

I have a 85 Husqvarna WR 400 and first and second are very low also but up on top she runs

@Erik-rp1hi 6 жыл бұрын

I have and older 300exc and now I bought a new 300XC, 2016 model. Calif. desert is good for both but maybe the XC will be funner?

@dmelson7502 6 жыл бұрын

Hope your recovery is going well, I broke a foot a few years back and feel your pain. Thought I'd mention that I don't play the lottery or buy scratch off tickets but I have bought one of your t-shirts... and I plan on flying your flag down at this weekend's Budd's Creek Nationals. Any chance that could be worth another entry? Lol! Just kidding. Usually the only gambling I do is riding my EXC 350 with no health insurance...

@AndrewBoundy 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this - perfect explanation.

@BrigT262 5 жыл бұрын

What year did they start making the counter balanced motors? My last 2003 300XC would vibrate so bad, it was hard to walk after a fairly long ride. (feet buzzing) Thanks for the super great videos!

@kevinoneil6032 5 жыл бұрын

2017

@dougackerman4182 3 жыл бұрын

Great video

@racerx9223 5 жыл бұрын

The logical thing to do would be to find the median between second and fourth gear and put that as the ratio for third gear!!! 😁

@alandraper9843 Жыл бұрын

You are the reason I’m going to pick up my new X CW 300 Saturday can’t wait to throw a leg over it i’ll be asking you other questions too I weigh 200 pounds in my birthday suit any suggestions on the set up

@monstermushroomcloud 6 жыл бұрын

I was just asking this question like a week ago!

@grahambarker2931 5 жыл бұрын

Hey after watching this video I decided to purchase a 450xc-f. Partially under the understanding that the trans was lower than sx, but not as low as xc-w. Trans gearing is identical as sx. Just a heads up

@masonlawson5816 4 жыл бұрын

Do they have the same plastics ?

@gilvietor1918 3 жыл бұрын

The ratio gear issue he is talking about is easy to explain this way... You have a tight corner before a huge hill climb and you can only do 2nd gear but the pull is long on the hill. My Te250i husky tpi bike had problems sometimes in those areas but man could it go through tight stuff with ease. My guess is a 300 would have done better in that sudden hill climb scenario. I'm sure Kyle knows the trail I am talking about up by Strawberry Reservoir, I believe it is 310?

@alecmiller4190 5 жыл бұрын

I’m from Michigan, is the 300 xc w tpi street legal?

@cristiandepedro2759 6 жыл бұрын

my 125 xcw has no linkage ???

@YilgarnRallye 5 жыл бұрын

so aside from the gearing differences in 1st and 2nd, how does the engine / power characteristics feel between the XC and XC-W ? is the XC snappier ? rev higher ? anything different at all or feels the same ?

@noirxplorer3185 4 жыл бұрын

It's the same. Everything but first and second gear. If you're riding more open stuff XC. If you want a woods king the XCW. I have the XCW. It does everything the XC does, but does slow tech better. XCs are gear more for hare scramble racing.

@isofly28 2 жыл бұрын

@@noirxplorer3185 does this mean the xc has more torque? As in bottom end is more powerful?

@theyeetus1428 2 жыл бұрын

@@isofly28 No. The gearing is different. That's it.