Never expected this video to blow up the way it did (thank you!) but it does mean I'll be haunted by some of these dated takes: -Way too harsh on Goob, I don't know why now I put him on the bottom, all things considered he's done well, but I think at the time I found him more annoying than funny. -Should have included Atlantis and Syndrome, -I say it doesn't matter if it guessable and then spend too much time analyzing if it's guessable. -Everyone brings up Hans'face at that moment being misleading but I think it makes sense for it to be read as 'Wow this is going to be easier than I thought'

Prince Hans be like: "Well, the plot decided i'm a villain now, so... Mua ha ha, i guess..."

The real moral of Disney movies: Scooby-Doo format works best with Scooby-Doo

I love how in Encanto they fool you into thinking their was an actual villain but turns out there was just an emotional obstacle.

For the Coco movie. You forgot to mention that Disney ACTUALLY TOLD US that Ernesto de la Cruz WASN'T related to Miguel since the very moment Ernesto was granting his blessing to him. The flower petal ISN'T glowing when he says the words "Miguel, I grant you my blessing". You can see that when Mamá Imelda and Héctor bless the petal, it starts to glow immediately whereas with Ernesto's is not. It's a great detail really covered up when Hector comes in to interrupt dressed as Frida Khalo.

There is the theory about Turbo that makes him a nastier villain than we first saw. The theory is that King Candy was a proper character in the game "Sugar Rush," but when Turbo entered the game, he rewrote King Candy's code, taking over his body, thus "killing" the character. We all know that Vanellope was a princess, so... he had killed her father, and posed as him, while making everyone else in the game forget who she was. That's dark.

With Coco, I actually got so caught up with the storyline and colorful settings that I forgot there was supposed to be a villain. For once, I had no suspicion of the actual villain

i honestly LOVE the turbo/king candy twist. wreck-it ralph came out when i was around 6 or 7 years old, and i fell in love with it instantly. the turbo twist was REALLY effective to little-kid me, and i couldn’t get enough of it. it’s just calm enough to where it can still be in a kid’s movie, but just scary enough to where it scared the hell out of me at that age. something about that scene on vanellope’s car where he’s glitching out and revealing himself all up in her face was just so spooky and fascinating to me, and his status as a twist villain still has a special place in my heart.

I acknowledge that Callaghan was a bad twist villain, but his outfit is just insane. Love every bit of it

The Disney Corporation itself is the biggest twist villain.

The thing about twist villian is the fact we don’t time for villain songs

When i think of perfect villains, waternoose is always my go to. He’s realistic, he didn’t do anything just because he was angry or wanted revenger or anything, he believed he was doing what’s best and took it way too far. And boy was he not afraid of going too far. His story makes the movie one of my all tome favorites (plus many other parts, love this movie). His design, motivation, and dialogue were amazing and he was just such a good villain that the whole movie wouldn’t have been anywhere near as good without that twist. Other movies have twists for fun or shock, but his twist really made the movie amazing

Imo the turbo reveal gave him SO much more motivation and backup on his uncaring behaviour suddenly. He HAS caused the death of 2 games. He HAS lied to everyone just to KEEP what HE has stolen again! The Turbo reveal gave him the solid ground to stand on as to why he was evil and why he risks everything to keep Vanelope away. He was number one. He had the pride to poison him. The jealousy to drive him. It solidified his reasoning and also provided setting that he could actually be defeated

I didn’t even notice just how many twist villains there are in Disney movies until now.

In other words: Pixar knows how to do twist villains while Disney doesn't.

I actually really like classic evil villains sometimes. I’m a theatre kid so the drama of it all really speaks to me. I actually am not a huge fan of Disney’s whole “Villain Redemption” thing they’re starting to do, or at least I don’t like who they’re doing it with. With Maleficent I didn’t mind so much because we had no idea what her motives or reasonings were in the original Sleeping beauty. Cruella Devil on the other hand… her whole thing is black and white, there is no gray area. Plus, do we really wanna give more of a story to a lady to just wants to wear puppies? Why not think about Scar of Ursula, who already have supper interesting plots in their original movies that would be really interesting to explore, power greed family revenge, those are things I can get on board with… that was kind of a tangent lol

You know, not only did Anna have less chemistry with Kristoff, they were missing something else as well! A PROPER DUET! Think about it. Hans and Anna have "Love is an Open Door" which is an absolute bop, and what do she and Kristoff get? People ad-libbing a song on the spot begging Anna to fuck this guy while the two smile at each other awkwardly. That and "Lost in the Woods" is all they have! And in a world where core, character-defining moments happen through song???? It just sort of communicates to the audience that, "oh yeah, you shouldn't marry a guy you just met. However, you should also leave yourself open to the possibility your first real relationship might not be your last." Like I always got the impression (before the second movie came out) that Anna and Kristoff would probably share a very happy five years together before mutually breaking up as it became obvious the two lacked the necessary communication skills, common interests, and ambition to really make it till Marriage, you know? Like even after they get married I'm not convinced they'll stay together forever or get divorced or what. All I know is that Kristoff kinda feels like....... settling. I mean seriously what do they have in common?

“You wouldn’t hit a guy with glasses, would you?” [smacks him with his glasses] ………indeed he would, yes.

The fact that her name is “Evelyn Deavor” Is like naming a villain “Baddy McBadface”

I actually really liked Doris (Bowler Hair). From my perspective he was always more of a Doofenshmirtz and was never meant to be taken seriously/was bound to fail. I find him hilarious and charming in his own way. I do agree tho that that hate part at the end kinda just came out of thin air but other than that the movie is great and I could (and have) rewatch it a million times and not yet bored.

Bro I honestly LOOOOOVE King Candy and his whole deal, his reveal was just so good and everything about him and his actions suddenly made sense when you now know he was actually Turbo. Everything from why he took over the game to why he wanted to imprison Penelope (both because of the whole 'she's the actual ruler' thing and the fact that she's glitching and that could get the game unplugged erasing all his work) to the whole scene in the coding area. He's absolutely great I will never think different.

So fun fact, when Frozen came out I was dating a guy named Haans and we would joke about how he was a Disney villain. Then he lied, cheated, and emotionally manipulated, making him actually the twist villain. That’s probably the only funny thing to come out of that, it was very toxic.

I think Syndrom is an interesting point because he's not so much a twist to the audience, but he is a serious twist for Mr Incredible himself.

The formula that I like, is the Studio Ghibli formula approach to villains. In their movies, villains aren't shown to be evil by nature, and instead are shown to be performing evil due to circumstance and the times. They show that villains are just as human as the audience and are shaped by the environment around them. Some Studio Ghibli movies, like Howl's Moving Castle, Princess Mononoke, and Spirited Away even show protagonists and antagonists reconciling when both learn to overcome their trials of being affected by the times.

Coco’s entire plot is so brilliant to me In how seamless and intricate its parts are to keep the mystery and the 2 conflicting Problems Miguel is faced with as compelling as they are without undermining the actual heart of its characters and themes. nothing gets skimped or left wasted; Everything works so well hand in hand and while I wouldn’t consider Ernesto himself a brilliant villain like Frollo or the Joker, the sheer weight of the consequences of his actions is soul crushing and it elevates his overall character far over other Pixar/Disney villains. It’s the kinda thing that never gets tiring or forgettable even when you rewatch the movie and as time goes on which is really hard to do with mystery films but Pixar had done it, they made that special Jack in the box that fits right back into your head before popping out again with devastating but beautiful emotion.

As a Mexican trust me those mariachi clothes are bulky.

Shout out to Mother Gothel for being a twist villain to the protagonist but not the audience. You get the best of both worlds, both the dramatic reveal and the fun villain song

In Moana, I'd never considered Te Fiti/Te Kā to be the villian, much less a twist. The loss of her heart and subsequent rage never made me feel as if she was unjustified in her anger. Haven't watched that movie in a while, but I guess my only impressions of "evil" in the movie were more Moana VS obstacles. Moana's goal is to return the heart, while obstacles prevent her throughout her journey. Her father her entire life telling her the water is forbidden, expectations of the island as future chief, Maui... Interesting!

Love that the top 5 are all Pixar. I know Disney technically owns it, but there’s just something special about Pixar movies and they always knock it out of the park from a storytelling perspective

Man I can’t believe that waluigis hat became the twist villain in meet the robinsons

Goob from Meet the Robinsons is literally Dr Doofenshmirtz.

I remember audibly gasping during the Hans reveal. Not only because he seemed like such a milk-toast good guy, but even the voice actor tended to play protagonists and "good guy" roles. They literally bamboozled us from the very beginning 😭😭 He will always be at the top of my list because of the audible shock that happened to me and others in the movie theatre.

Ernesto de la Cruz is, to me, one of the greatest twist villains of all time. I had no idea until the reveal, while for other things, I could usually guess. And rewatching the film gives so many damn hints to the fact that I was like "Wow, they actually planned this really well." while Hans was just making a villain for no reason(theres no fucking way that smile he gave Anna after she left him the first time was a scheming villain smile, lol.)

King Candy wasn’t the best villain twist in my opinion, but when he turned out to be Turbo.... Mind blown.

The point of “bowler hat guy” was to show how small actions have big affects. And i cried watching him as a villain.

wow dude, literally I have the polar opposite opinion on goob, he is my #1 twist villain because in a movie primarily about comedy i could literally never imagine a better motivation for a villain than "i was so pathetic at baseball as a kid that i decided to dedicate my entire life to hating my super successful roomate" and i find him absolutely hilarious. I can see where you're coming from though, mostly because the hat does tend to suck the fun out of the movie for a while, but i usually think of them seperately. And man, when goob leaves at the end of the movie without a word you can just feel that he's finally going to reflect on everything and its a strangely powerful moment coming from the character.

I think the Turbo reveal wasn't so much about the _who_ as it was the _why._ It provides a key piece of the puzzle as to why King Candy seems to be going to such great lengths to eliminate Vanellope from Sugar Rush: it's because he's actually Turbo, a psychopathic narcissist obsessed with always being the center of attention, no matter how much damage his quest for adoration causes. The later reveal that Vanellope is the true ruler of Sugar Rush completes the puzzle by explaining why it was specifically her that Turbo was targeting. The biggest twist of all, for me, was how shockingly bad Wreck it Ralph 2 was compared to the first movie. When people say it's basically The Emoji Movie, but slightly less terrible, they're really not far off the mark.

Elsa: is supposed to be villain Disney: nah Elsa sing epic song hans is now the villain HAHA

character: "hi, my name is mister evil mcevil evil face and I'm definately a good guy." Protagonist: "yeah sure, you seem like a good person and I totally won't regret this"

The top two have one thing in common that the others lack: Consistency. Maybe not of their behavior, but certainly of their motivation. Waternoose is the best because he undergoes NO CHARACTER TRANSFORMATION during the reveal. His motivation is what he clearly stated right from the beginning, and best of all, he is REMORSEFUL for his villainous actions. Stinky Pete, meanwhile, undergoes a BEHAVIORAL transformation, but not necessarily a character transformation. He goes from being calm and pragmatic to angry and unyielding. Which is a completely believable transition. Where Disney and present-day Pixar falter is in trying to have their villains be surprise villains AND classic villains. Which is to say that, when they are outed as the villain, they suddenly start behaving in completely different ways. Hans would have been on level with Waternoose if, at that moment in the plot, he let out a heavy sigh and said "I really hoped it wouldn't come to this..." As would Bellwether if she'd chased after Judy pleading her case a-la "Judy, please! Let me explain! I know this looks bad... And yeah, it's bad. But this isn't about power or prejudice -- it's about trying to deal with a terrible situation in the least terrible way possible!" But nope, as soon as they're outed, they start talking just like Scar, Jafar, Maleficent, and all those other bad guys that you knew were bad right from the start. That's why they suck. They become completely different characters, and it's never believable.

I think it was hard to see King Candy to be the main villain, but it was impossible to see Mayor Bellwether being the main villain. Bellwether is probably the most surprising twist. And Ernesto being a very close second surprising twist. And the twist of Te Ka being Te Fiti was surprising as well!

I just realized King Candy's "multiple phases" is similar to actual videogame final bosses having multiple phases. If that was intentional writing then that's honestly amazing.

PLOT TWIST: THE TWIST VILLAIN IS ACTUALLY THE HERO AND EVERY OTHER CHARACTER IN THE MOVIE IS TRYING TO KILL THEM!

Personally, I saw the Big Hero 6 twist coming a mile away for 2 simple reasons: We already had a mentor figure in the form of Tadashi, so having a second one in Callaghan made no sense plot-wise. The second reason is how the story seemed to be going out of its way to make the business man as evil and underhanded as possible. The fact that the movie wanted to reminded me every 5 minutes that he was a less than honorable business man made me suspicious; the writers (at least for me) made their misdirection way too obvious. Edit: Yes we should bring back the theatrical villains. They don't need to be in every single movie, but if I can get one good villain song a year I'd be thrilled.

You know what I was thinking was going to happen in Incredibles 2? That Evenlyn's brother, Winston, I think, was going to be the villain. He was SO much IN LOVE with the concept of being a hero, that I thought it was going to eventually take over his life and he became obsessed with it. Going so far as to keeping the Incredibles family captive and being a villain just so that he can relive the days of heroes being apart of society. And that same society still arguing over whether if the world needs them again because since they were banned, crime was running amuck and people had nearly lost control of law and order (Gotham. Okay not to that extent but yeah...). So thus leading to the family being on different sides of the argument - do they as supers obey the law because you set a good example and want to be a good citizen or do you break it because the justice system is failing and is being unfair? But instead we got wash, rinse, repeat, "twist villain" because Disney likes to insult our intelligence. But hey, the concept of Screenslaver was cool, that little girl holding the sign was creepy.

I think King Candy actually being Turbo was done at least in part to be able to get rid of him for good, in a universe where characters can be functionally immortal and revive from anything. Because they establish that if you die in a game that you weren't made for, then you don't get any extra lives - you just die. So, having King Candy originally be from another game both acts as another twist, and makes it so they can actually kill him off.

I miss when we had the obvious, theatrically evil villains who would deceive the hero, but not the audience. We all knew Jafar was evil, and it wasn't too hard to realize he was the old man helping Aladdin, but the _characters_ didn't know. So as the audience, we're thinking "Don't trust him , he's evil!" and the suspense comes from _knowing_ the characters are in danger. It's the old bomb under the table thing, as said by Alfred Hitchcock; If you just have a bomb explode, it isn't going to be very thrilling. But if you have a group of people sitting at a table, and tell the audience that a bomb under the table will explode in ten minutes, and the people in the film don't know it....That is far more suspenseful.

15:53 Ok but I've actually heard an explanation on why Hans gets a bad reputation in the villains book, but can make sense I saw it on tik tok I do not remember who talked about it but I'll sum up what I can remember: Hans has ways wanted to have a place to rule And he actually intended on marrying Elsa in the first place But he met Anna first That smile was genuine at first And as he revealed in Love is An Open Door, he was tired of being shut out just like Anna But he ask to marry Anna because he wants to get close to Elsa, who is becoming queen And he was going to settle for prince, until Elsa refused to give them her blessing This is where his arc starts He begins the subtle manipulation on Anna so she begins to think highly of him and not her sister But the act that really pushed him to the edge was Anna leaving Arendell in his charge He realized how much power he could have So his new plan was to kill both sisters tp keep it But he only kept Elsa alive when he left to appeal to "Anna's wishes" to prove that he cares for her to the audience and the guards Sure, they could've tried a little harder on the twist, but I feel this explanation worked out for me

I think many issues with Frozen were fixed in the musical (RIP). Kristoff and Anna met before the journey up the mountain, and then had more time to build a really sweet, awkward relationship. Hans' motivations are also way more obvious, but still vague enough for his betrayal to be realistic. I've only seen it a couple times, but enough to know that the musical was a spectacular show and was robbed.

Literally all these twist movies tricked me. I’m just stupid lol.

I personally liked gabby gabby’s character, she wasn’t exactly a “villain” to me but the fact that she just wanted to fix her voice box so she could get the attention of harmony was sort of heartwarming

although evelyn deavor as a twist villain was lackluster, the character design (wide eyed innocence versus narrow skepticism, gradually outfit changes to more black and white) and the visual motifs (being shown in lights versus in shadows) are both very neat notes that i hadn’t noticed when watching! maybe not so good for a *twist* villain, but pretty cool nonetheless!

When you started talking about the chemistry between Hans and Anna I instantly began imagining multiple different ways Frozen could have gone

Fun fact: The reason that Hans's actions are so misleading is that originally, he wasn't supposed to be the villain. Elsa was supposed to be that. But then the writers decided that the song "Let it go" was too empowering for a villain, so they turned her into one of the good guys, and, not wanting to give up on a bad guy completely, they made Hans the villain instead. This decision was made only a few months before they finished creating the movie and since they didn't want to start all over again, they just used some of the old footage instead of creating new ones. Hence, the many plot holes in that twist.

There is one way to identify a villain immediately: - If their song is a bop to listen to over and over again

11:50 he is also inspired in a... "character", of the original fable. A magic mirror that will change it's personality to reflect on who is interacting with him. All the way up to his twist reveal, he switches personalities according to who he is interacting with, he is goof with goof characters, assertive against that prussian dwarf, he seen to share the pain of the downthrodden when the ice starts injring the population... and then you throw all that outside the window when he goes "nah, you can just die". I think a better reveal would be for him to give the kiss, but it doesn't work, because none of his emotions are real, they are just a mockery of whoever he is interacting with... in the original fable, the mirror was actually broken, but a fragment of it falls on the villain's eye, which makes he behave like that without even noticing what he is trully doing, which could also be a shocking reveal for himself, to realize he is not what he thinks he is

Bowler hat guy is a masterpiece of a character, him being goob and holding that grudge his whole life is such a great part of the story and it takes a true movie lover to understand him.

I personally found Hans’ “twist” extremely predictable. Not only was Disney on a surprise villain kick, but it was obvious that Anna was going to end up with Kristoff: the typical boy and girl go on a journey together and fall in love formula. That meant that Hans had to go, and what’s the easiest way to go about that? Make him the bad guy. I thought King Candy being Turbo, when we already thought he was awful enough as it was, was brilliant.

Disney should do a movie where the protagonist turns into a villain.

One other thing that makes King Candy’s talk with Ralph seem believable is that, it’s partially true. The part about Venelopie’s glitching making players want to pull the game seems plausible, and Venelopie not being able to leave Sugar Rush because of her glitch status is 100% true. Just more a reason why I love King Candy as a villain.

Zootopia spoilers I actually found the reveal that those blue flowers made the predators wild a better twist than the twist villain .

*"They hated me..."* *"HEY GOOB WANNA COME OVER MY HOUSE TODAY"* *"NICE BINDER GOOB"* 😂😂😂 Man Meet The Robinsons deserves more recognition I love that movie so much

Coco was such a good movie, it was beautiful, the story was amazing, the characters were spectacular, and the ending was the perfect bittersweet way to wrap up the the entire movie and I loved it. Also all the extended family reminded me of my Hispanic side of the family especially grandma Coco, overall I think the writers did well to capture the energy of the household

I really like Hans is a twist villain because I can relate to having a someone who seems handsome and charming and who's completely manipulative as a boyfriend.I have felt Anna's betral.

Callaghan may not be a great villain, but he does look very sick with his trench-coat and micro-bots

I think the reveal that King Candy was Turbo was exceptional. They introduced the character of Turbo as seemingly a throwaway character only used as a reason why it was wrong to game jump. This made it so there was no way it could've been seen coming because Turbo isn't even really a character yet, just a plot device. The thing is, it makes perfect sense with the character of King Candy and flows so well. It's also revealed in such a chilling way with the glitching in between Turbo and King Candy that it's also an incredibly well-animated sequence.

The flow from clips 7:03 to 7:05 was beautiful.

Te-Ka also works as a reverse twist villain when you know that most Polynesian islands were formed by volcanos and the thing about volcanos forming land is that after the lava has time to cool into rock and break down, the land itself becomes *extremely* fertile which allows it to be the lush green beauty we associate with the islands

Waternoose is such a good twist villain, that I always forget he's the villain.

"For the sake of being a dick" That line describes SOOO many villains in cinematic history lmao

There is actually a fan theory that Hans wasn't a villain to begin with. At the start of the movie, he seems like a charming and kindhearted person. But he doesn't do anything villainous until AFTER Anna and Kristoff are done with their visit from the trolls. They're "Love Trolls." And basically forced Anna to be with Kristoff. So they probably (most definitely) put a curse on Hans, and turned him into something that wasn't initial. And like you said... Hans had a better interaction with Anna then Kristoff ever did. So there's that, too.

I would love traditional villains to return because I just want to hear more villain songs because I love them but if Disney is sticking with the moral villain route then I’d be okay with it as long as some films throw in a villain here and there

Bellwether being the twist villain of Zootopia would be like if Isabelle from Animal Crossing was a violent killer. Maybe the DOOM crossover makes more sense.

My big brother had a point when he called Evelyn's motives "weak." He said "it's like blowing up a grocery store for not selling cheese because the cheese factory wouldn't make cheese." Superheroes weren't there because the government banned them.

great vid! about what you said about lotso’s shift from his trauma to controlling the daycare; maybe he wanted to keep the other toys down so no one could replace him as a favorite toy again

There actually was a theory about Hans shortly after Frozen's release. The movie was supposedly an adaptation of Hans Christian Anderson's story Snow Queen, before the writing of Let It Go. Some people thought that Hans was the human version of the mirror from the older story. This also explained his constant character changes whenever he interacted with other characters, before him talking his gloves off in the betrayal scene and revealing his true colours. I just thought this was an interesting theory lol

Disney needs to make a movie where the protagonist slowly becomes the villain, while the villain slowly becomes the protagonist. Edit: since ive seen people in my replies say that i copied: i didnt, from what i remember, when i made this comment i didnt see the other comment that said something similar to mine, theres 7 billion people on earth, its common to think of the same idea and comment about said idea.

What really annoys me about Hans is that Disney acts like he’s the most evil Disney villain ever

Vanellope being the real ruler of sugar rush actually does make sense because it gives Turbo a reason to do literally everything he did. If she wasn't the ruler of sugar rush, why did he replace her specifically? Why did he feel the need to delete her code and make her a glitch? He wouldn't have any reason to do so or forbid her to cross the finish line if she wasn't important. If she was an ordinary racer, then when she crosses the finish line and resets the game she isn't a glitch and everyone remembers her and... nothing happens. Maybe Turbo would look like Turbo again, but if that were the case he'd have no reason to create a liability like "if this one racer crosses the finish line I will lose all my power." Maybe it didn't have any hints or build up, but if you think about it, it's kinda necessary for King Candy to make any sense. Also, I think King Candy is a great twist villain. Well, he isn't a twist villain... he's a villain with a twist. Turbo is the twist villain because surprise he's King Candy! He's pretty antagonistic the whole movie which gives him time to be a fun villain, but the twist is still great. They have seeds laid out that he's not really meant to be there, and isn't just a character like Taffyta. Like the fact that the castle is pink (which makes sense when we know who the real ruler is meant to be), the fact he can access the code and we see Vanellope's code, hinting at the fact he did something to it, and also Turbo's own story as told by Felix: he's a racer, who left his game to take over another racing game, and Sugar Rush is a racing game. His design also sticks out: an adult, specifically an old man, with a large nose, a different build from the others (thin legs, defined foot shape, large nose, a balloon shaped head), and no clear candy inspiration in his design. We dismiss this in our heads as "well, he's the ruler, his design should stick out" but thinking back, he doesn't fit in with the other racers, because he's from a different game. He wasn't able to change his build, only reskin himself. And I'll be honest, he had me on my first watch with what he told Ralph. The way he delivered it felt genuine, plus what he says makes perfect sense and he's right, she can't leave the game. Vanellope herself says so. If someone thought the game was broken, she would die with it. The only part of his story that isn't true is that if she were to cross the finish line, well she wouldn't be a glitch. But what he says makes it so you can't challenge him on his word because if he's right, the consequences are dire. If you test his theory and he isn't wrong, Vanellope has a good chance of being picked and then dying. He's smart that way, making it the safe option to take his word. His whole plan is really good and it's likely he told the other racers something similar to what he told Ralph. If Vanellope makes it on the roster and gets chosen, players will think the games busted and make them all homeless. They hate her not just because she's a glitch and supposedly shouldn't exist, but because in their eyes she's willing to risk making all of them homeless for a chance to race. In their eyes, she's selfish and a threat. And because she's a glitch, they probably also see her as not a real person. This secured her as unable to race. He would have succeeded in everything if Ralph hadn't gone to Sugar Rush, or if he just hadn't noticed Vanellope on the side of the game. Or even if Ralph had gotten his medal and went home. His downfall was entirely from stuff he didn't expect to happen nor could control.

Gotta love "Ranbow Factory" as the transition melody. Very fitting for a villain list. :)

Twist villains be like: And worst of all, he could be any one of us. He could be in this very room! He could be you! He could be me! He could even be...

King Candy: “This isn’t even my final twist.”

The thing I love about Stinky Pete is that, on a rewatch, you can see how manipulative he's being. Not just of Woody but of Jessie too

Moana did such a great job with the twist! It all makes sense in the movie, and I legit didn’t expect it when I first watched it! It also wasn’t a traditional twist villain, so that also helped.

"And for Disney's still... only time travel film?" *Sad Cinderella III noises*

Regarding wreck it Ralph: Has anyone else wondered if king candy turns into a literal bug because he is a “bug“ in the software?

I never minded the 180 personallity twist, in fact, I loved it. So much so i use it in my own stories and characters (I roleplay online with friends), and it works really well. To me, it showed "This character is done with wearing the carefully crafted mask they've built and no loger care if they're seen as they really are, a monster". It could either show desparation to acheve their goal, underestimating their opponent (the protagonists), or a strategic reveal. I've seen some crazy things and been friends with some crazy people, so believe me, the 180 shift is something that can happen with a person *if they're given a reason*. Think of Mother Gothel; she had a total personallity flip but it was because being nice wasnt working anymore. She still had the same goal and she was still the same person, but we were seeing a different side of them.

I literally knew the villain of incredibles 2 as soon as she was shown on screen. Like it feels very Disney thing to show this “new rookie who loves a main character” and then turns out to be actually the villain plotting revenge.

"that I think gets a little too much flack." *Schaffrillas:* THAT WAS YOUR MISCALCULATION!

The biggest twist villain is cell doing a second part

The heightened chemistry between Hans and Anna was also a manipulation tactic where Hans just seemed to be absolutely in agreement with all of Anna's quirks. IRL, strong chemistry is a good jumping-off point for a solid relationship but that it works better if it builds up over time than if it appears to happen too soon, like with Hans and Anna. It falls in line with the marrying someone you just met trope. Notice that forced chemistry is also a tactic used by dodgy salespersons, scammers, and people who are eager to use others as cash cows, rebound partners, or hookups. Good point about using external circumstances to force characters together, though.

8:31 i think i remember reading somewhere that this move was pretty smart because if you got everyone to love supers again, having them fuck up twice stings more than "the supers just did one thing after being gone for x amount of years"

Coco was litterally one of the best twists and movies in general

what i LOVE about the coco reveal even though this is a minor thing, is that how he made the movie with the EXACT WAY HE MURDERED SOMEONE to gaslight hector when he did confront him. because it comes off as though hector is thinking that he is living a movie. because imagine if someone famous and well loved actually did murder someone the same way it was portrayed in a famous movie. would it be hard to believe? absolutely.

I honestly loved the king candy twist when I was little I was old enough to think that he was up to something but when he had that talk with Ralph about how if Penelope became a racer it would be bad for the her and everyone in the game in general it really convinced me and I was truthfully surprised when it was revealed he was the villain also I just thought he was entertaining to watch but that’s kinda my whole view of the movie but yeah that’s my little paragraph on king candy and what I thought of the twist when I first watched it

10:17 I may just be going to in detail but I'm pretty sure her glasses were foreshadowing since they were blue.

Can we talk about how Evelyn deavour was obviously a lesbian

Fun fact: the creators of Coco said "Ernesto is never really shown pouring anything on the drink, nor there's any poison in the scene, so it's up to you to decide if he really killed Héctor or maybe It really was just food poisoning"

The opening notes of Rainbow Factory playing for each entry is SENDING me

Excellent breakdown, I used to hate Hans’s whole arc but now I can see some of the reasoning behind it