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DissociaDID Did NOT Like Bobo & Co's Video...

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DissociaDID Did NOT Like Bobo & Co's Video...
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@elle-says
@elle-says Жыл бұрын
It's almost like you put two people with unstable trauma together that they both are gonna perceive the other as dangerous and work themselves up.
@wendysmith3783
@wendysmith3783 Жыл бұрын
💯
@bestaqua23
@bestaqua23 Жыл бұрын
It's actually kinda of sad . The internet was really a mistake
@alystairmabloch401
@alystairmabloch401 Жыл бұрын
Exactly! People need to stop trying to pick a side. They need support both of them. Same thing with braidid.
@ripley2995
@ripley2995 Жыл бұрын
Petty internet drama honestly but the way it affects them seems like it’s almost retraumatizing… I wonder why they remain in the public eye… A vicious cycle I think.
@ameliab324
@ameliab324 Жыл бұрын
I think it applies to BraiDID Bunch and DissociaDID where they were just kinda toxic to each other, but Bobo straight up threatened DissociaDID, which is different.
@fandomqueen4311
@fandomqueen4311 Жыл бұрын
"She fucking sued me" Wow it's almost like threatening to off someone has consequences
@TheIndigoSystem
@TheIndigoSystem Жыл бұрын
She didn’t sue them just asked her lawyer to ask her to stop harassing DD
@fandomqueen4311
@fandomqueen4311 Жыл бұрын
@@TheIndigoSystem ik that but bobo complained about being sued as if it wasn't the consequences of their own actions
@grimmaulkin
@grimmaulkin Жыл бұрын
My actions? Have consequences? *Shocked Pikachu*
@psychic.dreamgirl353
@psychic.dreamgirl353 Жыл бұрын
Personally, I fail to see how threatening someone with physical violence is a joke. That's always the cop out statement people make when they get called out for saying something gross. I would have more respect for Bobo if they straight up said that they'd spoken out of anger and don't really intend to inflict harm on DD. That being said, they should both simply leave each other be now. They're clearly not friends. Why have anything more to do with one another?
@mygreen3090
@mygreen3090 Жыл бұрын
Right there was no reason to throw threats carelessly! It’s not a joke it never a joke and that excuse is bs…
@marque6732
@marque6732 Жыл бұрын
As many lawyers say "Don't film your crimes. If you do film your crimes, don't post them on the internet." Threats of physical harm are a crime. Especially if you actually know the person. The Cease and Desist was very warranted. That said, Bo&Co are fully entitled to their opinion and emotions. They just need to edit better and learn to let things go. Jealousy, Envy and Hatred (whether they feel justified or not) will eventually tear them apart. Please get help (not reddit). For those that don't like Kya being the 'face' of DiD, be a better one.
@Letycs
@Letycs Жыл бұрын
Honestly? It wouldn't really matter if Bobo WAS joking.. DD is going through a whole lot of other BS right now and DD was right to be no-bullshit about it. If you watched DDs video, they explicitly said they aren't going to sit idle and let it happen all over again. 'Look where keeping quiet got us before.' At the end of the day, Bobo has harassed them before so DD is right to take any threat seriously. Bobo should not have said shit to DD to begin with, especially not with what DD is/has been dealing with. Enough is enough. People are only mad at DD because they're not letting people use them as a door mat anymore, God forbid.
@ShesAaRebel
@ShesAaRebel Жыл бұрын
"We can hold people accountable without hating them". Sometimes I wish people on that subreddit took their own advice. Bobo asking on there what she can do to make it right is a little bit of a taste of what DD has been dealing with for a long time now. Every single time they come out with a video, no matter what it's about, people flock to that site and post shit about them. Kya can lay out all their sins and apologize until they are blue in the face, and someone will always find something that they missed, or say "Not good enough". It's maddening and it's toxic.
@phoebesmith8154
@phoebesmith8154 Жыл бұрын
But they’re not apologising or taking accountability though.
@ShesAaRebel
@ShesAaRebel Жыл бұрын
@@phoebesmith8154 I believe they have...multiple times. Especially in the Q&A video (that I think was taken down upon request of Braidid). The problem people seem to have, is because in each circumstance, they also give context for the situation. So people take it as an "excuse", and therefore brush it aside. It's the same thing Bobo is doing with the "joke" she made about beating the shit out of Kya. She's saying that she didn't mean it (excuse?), but still apologizing. And everyone who hates Kya is loving her for it. The outrage culture surrounding the DID community, and the lack of acknowledging nuance is what drives me insane. You can have personal tastes, but making such a big deal out of everything these people do/say is exhausting. Sometimes certain people give you a bad feeling, or there's something about them that you just don't like. And that's ok! But don't use your personal icks as leverage.
@weewooweewoo906
@weewooweewoo906 Жыл бұрын
it just makes me feel bad for DD and baffled at how unhinged the people who obsess over hating them are
@lacybraswell3813
@lacybraswell3813 Жыл бұрын
@@phoebesmith8154 who kya or the other system?
@magikenzee
@magikenzee Жыл бұрын
@@phoebesmith8154 they have multiple times about things they needed to but they have zero accountability to someone harassing them let's pretend this is a bf and gf does the gf owe the abusive bf apologizes for fighting back
@Lanoira13
@Lanoira13 Жыл бұрын
Context has only affirmed my opinion about Bobo seeming like a massive POS. "I would beat the shit out of this person, how dare they not shut up about online hate they get, they should be DEAD" "Oh no, I was just joking, how dare you take me threatening and harassing you seriously!!! You're abusing me!!!" Meanwhile they're bestie with Kya's sexual assaulter... Literally zero empathy for this snake. The BraiDID logs were crystal clear, they were toxic and abusive in their friendship, and them continuing to downplay their behavior and make the person they hurt out to be the bad guy for cutting them off after giving them way too many chances just shows the kind of people they are. As if that wasn't enough, they also associate with these two?? Yeah, in the bin with all of them.
@roetc
@roetc Жыл бұрын
"hypothetical aggressive situation" is giving me the same vibes as "consensual workplace relationship" ☠️
@theraefiles
@theraefiles Жыл бұрын
HSNSJSN THATS WHAT I THOUGHT
@ElizabethMidfordHatesCops
@ElizabethMidfordHatesCops Жыл бұрын
Literally what I thought.
@SometimesRaven
@SometimesRaven Жыл бұрын
Maybe I'm slightly biased but BoBo's attitude in that video really sets my teeth on edge. Idk exactly where they're from but they sound fairly local to me and they're behaving exactly like high school bullies do, the voice they're using is very much a condescending "I'm 100% better than you" attitude that's used to indimidate people into silence.
@WeAreAllRidiculous
@WeAreAllRidiculous Жыл бұрын
“They would be fucking dead” yeah that’s also a threat
@Lissyhead2
@Lissyhead2 Жыл бұрын
Oh boy, where to start: Ok, so I really don't think Bo would physically attack Dissociadid, but honestly her/their behavior in this video makes it seem possible that they could do anything out of anger. Bo also took a lot of low blows: poking fun at Kya's housing (which would be extremely triggering with all the doxxing going on), CATS?!?, and clothes. It was insulting and below them, Bo can do better than that. With very few exceptions, DD's videos have been completely professional and respectful, no matter what the topic. They can be firm for sure, but I've never seen this kind of threatening, atrocious behavior. I don't know them in real life, but online, even when speaking about horrible things, they still make a point of telling people every time NOT to spread hate to others.
@PenguinAvengerPony
@PenguinAvengerPony Жыл бұрын
Also how come when DD gets death threats and harrassed on the subreddit and kiwi farms it just "comes with the territory" or is earned, but when Bobo or other creators get critiqued or threatened by DDs fans it's Kya's fault? There's so many double standards in both Bobo's video and the entire community
@kukukk13
@kukukk13 Жыл бұрын
Vangelina I swear you're my hero when it comes to understanding things happening in the did community
@CS-zb7hx
@CS-zb7hx Жыл бұрын
Am I the only one that finds it weird that DD is consistently referred to as "she"? Most other people in the DiD creator community get "they", and DD's host isn't even female identifying anymore. It's odd to me.
@queenlexy7446
@queenlexy7446 Жыл бұрын
Nope you're not alone gave me the ick the entire time. Misgendering someone bc you don't like/respect them while playing advocate for other people is a big red flag to me
@CHNO-cm1rd
@CHNO-cm1rd Жыл бұрын
Nah, not really
@briancrawford8751
@briancrawford8751 4 ай бұрын
No, it's not particularly weird. When people see someone who looks like a woman, puts on makeup like a woman, dresses like a woman, and sounds like a woman, it's fairly automatic for that person to get called "she" and "her."
@twinstarssystem2857
@twinstarssystem2857 Жыл бұрын
To be honest this whole system drama is getting progressively more and more... exhausting. Everyone here is just... young, and traumatized, and highstrung.
@greentealatte5973
@greentealatte5973 Жыл бұрын
They are neurotic and some of them are liars fighting over online fame and money. Its their 'job' not the reality. The people who are able to make videos, get in all this drama and legal battles, live full lives with vlogging and running businesses are not who they say they are. They are depicting a fantasy version of an illness that true psychology isn't yet sure if they agree exists and would be super debilitating to anyone who has it. These creators are making a mockery of Ptsd and CPtsd and while some of them have it, many are just borderline young women/nonbinary. There are people who go through immense and documented and proven psychological trauma, torture, and abuse from childhood and not one of them have been out about having suffered DID or made youtube channels profiting off the back of that trauma. This community is full of immature young people looking to fit I somewhere and be unique and/or famous. No one finds it odd that none of these documented and proven survivors have been diagnosed with DiD?
@Maeiliu
@Maeiliu Жыл бұрын
I think it is a little hypocritical of Bobo & Co ti critisise DissociaDID for the harrasment perpetrtated by some of their supporters whe some of Bobo & Co's supporters are denying DissociaDID's DID diagnosis, and as far as I have been able to tell she has not calledout or critisised any of them for this. Also I thik we need to aknowledge that influnceres have a very limited ability to prevent their followers from engaging in harrassment, it is important that influencers make the point of saying that it is wrong and not to do it, but some will anyway.
@werwerfxfgvdsgertg
@werwerfxfgvdsgertg Жыл бұрын
Bobo honestly came across very jealous of DissociaDID at the end and its such a shame :( I think they have both made mistakes. But even mentioning physical violence, be that a theoretical or not, is never okay imo. Bobo lost the high ground when doing that and they can't get that back now.
@adamgrace7976
@adamgrace7976 Жыл бұрын
You can't joke about unaliving someone and just say "sorry". Just one subreddit away from seeing the reality of stomping on someone face or knocking their lights out. On the other hand calling people out because they give passive aggressive advice is just low EQ move.
@twiztedsynz
@twiztedsynz Жыл бұрын
Especially when that person has a history of unaliving attempts themselves before the fact.
@CyanideSunshines
@CyanideSunshines Жыл бұрын
They never said anything about UNALIVING them. She didn't express herself very well, but she meant "off the internet", not actually physically d3ad
@Vaghiay
@Vaghiay Жыл бұрын
@CyanideSunshine Saying that you would physically assault someone if you saw them and playing it off as a joke is still not okay. There is nothing funny about physical violence, so I don't get how this can be a joke. What they're trying so say is, that they were just saying this but wouldn't actually do it, but that's not a joke, that's an empty threat. And in the end even an empty threat it a threat and not okay.
@TheIndigoSystem
@TheIndigoSystem Жыл бұрын
@@CyanideSunshinessaying you would stomp someone’s head is a violent threat and absolutely is about wanting to unalive them
@CyanideSunshines
@CyanideSunshines Жыл бұрын
@@TheIndigoSystem it really isn't. I think it's a cultural thing, a class thing and people not taking the time to sit back at the look at the bigger picture. It was a hypothetical situation, are you seriously telling me you've never used a hypothetical situation before ? Have you ever vented whilst angry? People react to triggers in different ways, BB was triggered. She's already apologized for venting that online. Are we to expect that DD can be nasty but apologize but noone else can?
@Simmershi
@Simmershi Жыл бұрын
Tbh - as someone who is objective here - a lot of what boba says are huge contradictions or hypocritical statements. For example “why would anyone pretend to be poor” before directly accusing Kya of pretending to be poor 🤷‍♀️ I get they wanted to rant but, from the sounds of it, they don’t have their own opinions figured out.
@astralloser1177
@astralloser1177 Жыл бұрын
someone once said “if you’re the only one laughing, it’s not a joke”. threatening violence against someone isn’t a joke :/ i hope both Kya and Bobo, and their respective systems, are okay. it sounds like Bobo is struggling at the moment, but that’s no excuse to threaten anyone. but they do say that when someone is backed into a corner, they’ve had their flight option taken away, meaning the only option left is to fight. and we all know content creators can’t escape the internet. not an excuse, but possibly a way to reason with why they would say something so awful? i just really hope everyone in this situation is okay.
@Mizbit
@Mizbit Жыл бұрын
Yeah seriously They're trying to minimize, and it feels gaslighty and manipulative by saying it's all a joke. Reminds me of high school bullies hiding behind "It's a joke.. it's not that serious.." they realized they fucked up and instead of apologizing and admitting they let their feelings go to far they tried playing it off as a joke until the community completely called them out and wouldn't let them play off their actions.
@astralloser1177
@astralloser1177 Жыл бұрын
@@Mizbit honestly, yes. i don’t think this will be resolved until they sit down, without cameras, and actually talk out the issues at hand. and, if they can’t resolve their issues like adults, they just need to keep each other’s name out of their mouth, and stay out of each other’s business. it’s a horrible situation, even moreso to wish death or violence upon someone. the only sensible resolution is to steer clear of each other. or that’s the only resolution i can see being possible 😩
@CC-mx3dd
@CC-mx3dd Жыл бұрын
I watched bobos video and it truly felt like they were jealous of what DD had. There was definitely some sort of falling out I have no idea what happened but bobo does seem unhinged with rage both at what happened and a lot because of jealousy.
@uffda3937
@uffda3937 Жыл бұрын
I agree. It seems like Bobo is doing a lot of projecting.
@twiztedsynz
@twiztedsynz Жыл бұрын
As I said on Kya's post about this; sometimes ex friends are the worst/hardest to heal from. That said while I can see both sides of this at least in why Bobo is upset and why Kya feels threatened, Bobo didn't help by posting at all and making it public. Maybe if they had posted and made it private or for friends, it'd be a different story. Their saying "It's my community"; yeah, but it's Kya's too and with all the stuff Kya's been going through, Bobo tossing their opinion onto that fire didn't help/doesn't help. It *seems* that Kya just wants to move on and do things with her life, but people are adamant to drag her back into floundering BS and quite honestly that makes me feel for Them more than others right now. Admittedly I don't follow Kya anywhere but KZfaq, and I've only seen a few videos from Bobo, so I'm missing a LOT of context, I'm sure. I also think that all the posts that use "Chloe" instead of Kya's name is absolutely disrespectful. While I get why - they don't believe that Kya has DID and so aren't going to respect it - by that line of thinking, they shouldn't be respectful of anyone who has DID, as "proving it" is near impossible. (That's a personal irk though) Right now I'm very much for team "Both need to walk away, pretend the other doesn't exist and live their lives".
@atinyevil1383
@atinyevil1383 Жыл бұрын
I find it very interesting that, when people have come for DissossiaDID in the past few years, they've (the descenters) done it when they're (DissociaDID) going through really bad times. Like DissociaDID will be taking a break to deal with something, and *right then* is when they decide that DissociaDID needs to be exposed. I can't say whether Kya or the system has done anything or not, but I find the timing is always suspicious.
@janefins261
@janefins261 Жыл бұрын
I wholeheartedly agree with the "walk away" part. People already know about all the stuff that happened at the beginning of 2020, with the sleepover drama and the Pinata System and all that terrible stuff. I feel like now, more than ever, everyone needs to mind themselves, if apologies have already been made and everyone agreed to not speak on it again. Again, not sweeping what Bobo and other systems had to deal with under the rug, but this is one instance where, for the mental health of all that had been involved before, it's time to go separate ways.
@BigFloppaMyLove
@BigFloppaMyLove Жыл бұрын
i personally think that Dissociadid was just as much in the wrong as Bobo. there are hundreds of channels slagging off kya and accusing them of faking and making much worse threats, which they ignore and never address, yet they felt the need to make multiple posts to their fanbase on all social media platforms without including anything about not attacking Bobo. I understand they shouldn't have said what they said however I believe kya is malicious with it too. they took parts way out of context, fully knowing that their immature, impressionable young audience would eat it up and attack Bobo.
@twiztedsynz
@twiztedsynz Жыл бұрын
@@BigFloppaMyLove It's easier to ignore people you don't associate with/are strangers to than someone who was part of your life for a time. As I admitted, I don't follow Kya anywhere else but KZfaq so I don't know what they said elsewhere about the situation, but they have never supported attacking others and anyone who follows Kya knows this. That's been their position for years. If people ARE going off and doing that, that shouldn't be on Kya. Also considering Kya's situation, as others have pointed out, I can see why they'd take Bobo's supposed joke seriously. At this point in their life it's likely true they don't know who is legit and who isn't. Kya might have taken things out of context, but Bobo has lied about Kya too for supporting things that they have not and vehemently have come out against. But again, I'm very team both sides need to just pretend the other doesn't exist at all, ever again, and go on with their lives.
@ariannasantina
@ariannasantina Жыл бұрын
chloe is still the nameof the body and her legal name. if the name bothers her so much she should get it legally changed to kya. but imo even if she has DID, Chloe is still who she is... kya and all the other personalities are just trauma responses. she is still who she is under all of that.
@lotusflower474
@lotusflower474 Жыл бұрын
So I watched Bobo’s original video before this drama kicked off. Two thoughts: 1. ‘Joke’. People are using quotation marks because it wasn’t really a joke as such. It wasn’t funny, she was angry. Instead she used ‘joke’ after saying what she did to clarify that she wouldn’t actually do those violent things. 2. I feel like without the Reddit that likes creating drama hardly anyone would have even seen this Bobo video. She gets very few views and this rant was quite a few minutes in. It came across as a rant to get stuff off her chest to a very small amount of viewers. Before DD posted about it the video had few views and only like 2 people commented.
@HeidiSholl
@HeidiSholl Жыл бұрын
The way bobo is shouting at their cat is a little bit stressful to see. I know editing and online persona are a thing, and closed doors could be hiding a lot, but watching Kya interact with their cats is lovely. It makes me long for a cat of my own. This is one of very few clips I've seen of Bobo, and the way they interacted with their cat was just quite sad to witness
@Lissyhead2
@Lissyhead2 Жыл бұрын
In addition to my previous comment, in the 4 hour video Kya discussed a controversy regarding Bo never getting their portion of their money from a livestream. They later made a statement that Bo has now been given that money. I believe Bo admitted it too. This positive interaction has been completely ignored. Bo's comments suggest jealousy and resentment, not valid arguments. I want both people to be able to speak their mind and have their voice count, but this is exactly what NOT to do.
@joshuacoonfield
@joshuacoonfield Жыл бұрын
That last bit at the end of Bobo complaining about what they have vs what DD has is a weird tangent. Are they jealous of DD?
@tinyprettymoon
@tinyprettymoon Жыл бұрын
That’s what I was thinking, it came off as super petty and jealous to me
@twiztedsynz
@twiztedsynz Жыл бұрын
I think Bobo made a lot of assumptions in the video based on things they've seen from DD, but they don't have the actual facts of how DD has their life now. But because of what they saw, I agree that they did come off as jealous.
@elenchanted9904
@elenchanted9904 Жыл бұрын
I mean, Bobo never even uses her name. Like... Idk. To me it doesn't seem like jealously. To me, it seems like Bobo is living in poverty and cold and feels isolated and betrayed by an ex- friend. It seems like DD way over reacted but also they clearly have a lot of trauma about internet bullying so they perceived what Bobo said as a credible threat.
@_Myriad_
@_Myriad_ Жыл бұрын
Theyre very financially not well off so i think theyre probably jealous of.. well just about everyone with more than $2 to their name honestly, and in this case i think they just started listing things theyve noticed DD has (when stalking the sub and all other social medias..) that they would want if they could afford it because DD was the current topic
@BigFloppaMyLove
@BigFloppaMyLove Жыл бұрын
yes and the whole community is self proclaimed as jealous of DD as they have burned every single bridge to every other DID creator possible and tarnished their names. anyone in bobos position would be jealous
@lunawolf3645
@lunawolf3645 Жыл бұрын
Honestly, what do we expect from a community of severely traumatized adults interacting with severely traumatized adults? I understand wanting to stop the stigma, but I swear, the drama caused by traumatized people gets messy and smears the stigma rather than stopping it. As much as I understand and relate to them wanting to share their life stories, I feel like the educating part should be handled by neurologists and specialists for this reason.
@chee8572
@chee8572 Жыл бұрын
The “mental health advocate” community was doomed from the start. Do stigmatization will never progress past it’s current state, naturally humans are suspect of mental illness because our brains tell us to avoid unusually behaving individuals. But that doesn’t mean most people don’t try to live with empathy or become trained to help and understand. Unfkrtantely I think most of the advocates are looking for a corrective experience/ validation through a source that is inherently unstable (the internet) and generally attracts mean spirited people.
@fandomtrash7505
@fandomtrash7505 Жыл бұрын
I disagree with you last statements. It’s good for people who actually have the disorder to talk about their experiences and how it’s been for them. Sure professionals can explain the whys, but real people with the disorder can explain how it affects their lives and what it is like to live with it.
@JesusLightsYourPath
@JesusLightsYourPath Ай бұрын
​@@fandomtrash7505 Good point
@manicantsettleonausername6789
@manicantsettleonausername6789 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for uploading the edited version, this was a nice way to hear a nuanced and relatively objective account of the situation without having to dive into it myself, which, as you said, can be a slippery slope and not good for mental health.
@Tara........
@Tara........ Жыл бұрын
I found it telling that Bobo made reference to Kya's housing situation and her two Ragdoll cats. Considering what Bobo has disclosed about her current financial hardship, I wonder if there is an element of jealousy at play here.
@LinWarai
@LinWarai Жыл бұрын
i really just wish people would focus on their own healing instead of constantly tearing down eachother thank you for this video! i’m a longtime subscriber of dissociadid so i know i’m probably a bit biased. i really appreciate your unbiased way of looking at this, it feels equal and i hope i can learn to see things more evenly!
@Nuttmegg456
@Nuttmegg456 Жыл бұрын
I don’t understand why Bobo is calling a 3-br a mansion?? It’s…a normal sized house. Sure, it’s a lot for one person and I wouldn’t get one that big, but it’s not abnormally large. This entire video (Bobo’s) was just uncomfortable to watch. She seems obsessed and honesty it’s hard to trust anything she’s saying because it all seems like it could be dramatized. Shouting at your cat is…interesting to do while you’re shaming someone else for “bullying” people.
@neckpeck2738
@neckpeck2738 9 ай бұрын
I think in early 2022 (might be the wrong year, idk), Bobo was unable to pay their energy bill and had to live in a cold apartment. Compared to that, a three bedroom house is pretty luxurious.
@magikenzee
@magikenzee Жыл бұрын
Wait bobo literally just said it's not okay to make videos online attacking people if you don't agree with them. And then attacked DD for doing it as Bobo literally did it through the WHOLE video and threatened assault 😑 she also said she'd call her a c*** which was the other argument about calling someone a t***
@zplazma5557
@zplazma5557 Жыл бұрын
It seems like bobo has been following the Reddit and kiwi farms and is getting more and more separated from reality. Like Disocidid isn’t perfect but bo and a few others in the community are getting unhinged after following kiwi farms like Chris-Chan
@tarasalad
@tarasalad Жыл бұрын
I guess I don't understand the full situation, but I don't consider one person posting a TikTok calling someone else a twat warrants calling them a bully, joking about physical harm, and saying they should be dead. Now if there's a lot of harassment happening behind the scenes, record everything and bring it to the authorities. Otherwise I'd say just disengage.
@alyxezra
@alyxezra Жыл бұрын
in my opinion no matter how many followers you have or not, you should not be making shitty comments just so casually. the moment you decide to be a content creator, with zero followers, you become a public figure able to be scrutinized. kya is an easy target for people, and i personally believe people are capitalizing on that and then turning around and claiming "small creator bullied by big bad million follower." no one is as rude and as bitter as an ex-friend who feels wronged, and that's what this feels like to me. kya was wrong a lot, that's true. but why is it that kya needs to ignore all the bullshit that's being said about them while bobo and others can just slag them off? they should try taking their own advice.
@FirefliesMulti
@FirefliesMulti Жыл бұрын
I hate that Bobo is calling it a "joke" She is obviously angry in the lead up to it, and they are not on good terms so therefore they are not in a frame of mind or a position to "joke". I HATE when people back pedal about something bad they do or say and just say "but it was a joke.. lighten up" There is ZERO funny about what she said. Even if it's one of her alters... she has to take system accountability like the rest of us multiples.
@malicrain5478
@malicrain5478 Жыл бұрын
Honestly i don't understand why the did community hates disociadid so much, like bobo literally hates dd more than team piñata and that's a huge red flag. I used to think bobo was a cute girl but she is scaring me now, she need to log off internet and get help asap she was fucking shaking in anger about DD when she should be more worried about TP. She seem really delirious
@nina_mariel
@nina_mariel Жыл бұрын
Jesus the way this video comes across is that they're jealous. They probably have valid points, I'm not super into the DID community, but it's hard to see their point when they come off as petty.
@crystalhearteddragon4197
@crystalhearteddragon4197 Жыл бұрын
I think its because Kya is pretty well off, and asks for money, where Bo literaly has no electricity or food most days, living in poverty is horrendous of course shes jealous, but I don't feel its petty. Bo is really doing it tough. I see this sounding petty, but they have seriously have been through it with DD, they are exasperated and with childhood trauma survivors we need to be heard, and everyone to hear, we become righteous because for most our lives we couldn't speak up, we couldn't fight for ourselves.... which also means we don't have practice with that, we didn't get to learn, now as adults are expected to interact perfectly.
@BigFloppaMyLove
@BigFloppaMyLove Жыл бұрын
yes and the whole community is self proclaimed as jealous of DD as they have burned every single bridge to every other DID creator possible and tarnished their names. anyone in bobos position would be jealous
@yousmellofhorse
@yousmellofhorse Жыл бұрын
I think people bring up Kya requesting help with legal fees a lot in a negative light, but someone can be able to afford to live and treat themselves while also not being able to afford a lawyer. Bo lives in poverty, but they also got 2 new pets while not being able to afford to support themselves. I understand that pets are positive for mental health, but when you can’t afford to feed yourself and keep yourself warm, I think it’s irresponsible to get pets. I also find it confusing how Bo lives with 2 other people but no one seems to have any sort of steady income. They also claim to never have power but always have enough power to use their phone all day.
@whysnana
@whysnana Жыл бұрын
@@yousmellofhorse what irritates me about people getting upset about the funding for laywers, is that they dont know how that works. the link she used for it goes straight to her lawyers pockets. not hers. she didnt see a penny of what was donated because it wasnt FOR HER, it was for her lawyers.
@CarrieAnneKimberley
@CarrieAnneKimberley Жыл бұрын
Bobo comes across as incredibly bitter and jealous of DD, all I hear is that she’s deeply unhappy with her own life
@ninjoshday
@ninjoshday Жыл бұрын
I'm very grateful that you've taken the time to sort through this mess. It seems very much like everybody involved is coming at this from a place of trauma and self-defense. I wish the best for the whole community and healing for everybody who has been hurt
@lorahmin
@lorahmin Жыл бұрын
I’d put joke in quotes too, since it’s not a joke at all
@twinmoon8808
@twinmoon8808 Жыл бұрын
I’m really only connected to the KZfaq side of things so I want to Thankyou for digging through the trenches as it were. You help make things make sense. 😎
@sadlystuckinreality
@sadlystuckinreality Жыл бұрын
Thank you for always following this subject! I found your account through the original DissociaDid drama way back in the day and have been following you ever since!
@twinstarssystem2857
@twinstarssystem2857 Жыл бұрын
The accusation that DD gets away with everything is *wild* to me to be honest.
@tr0phyeyes183
@tr0phyeyes183 Жыл бұрын
It’s not that wild when it’s true.
@Kyss111
@Kyss111 Жыл бұрын
@@tr0phyeyes183 be fr
@twinstarssystem2857
@twinstarssystem2857 Жыл бұрын
@@tr0phyeyes183 not really tbh? have y'all seen the mob that was going after them a couple years ago?
@magikenzee
@magikenzee Жыл бұрын
@@tr0phyeyes183 get off reddit and kiwi farms bro
@tr0phyeyes183
@tr0phyeyes183 Жыл бұрын
@@magikenzee kiwi farms is for incels and hateful cretins, the fact you even said that literally proves my point.
@KitahKat
@KitahKat Жыл бұрын
Engagement chitter! Thanks for the live, love! It was one of the better streams I've been at and I'll be sure to pop into the next one I can too! I hope both Bobo & Co's and DissociaDID's systems are doing okay and can finally just put all of this to rest.
@corvuscrux
@corvuscrux Жыл бұрын
God I wish Bobo would pull the mic from their face. It's so hard to listen to the mouth noises 😭
@tasheve3015
@tasheve3015 Жыл бұрын
i was thinking the same thing!! so infuriating
@Kitten_Inchaos
@Kitten_Inchaos Жыл бұрын
Tbh they just sound jealous AF. Literally acted like they didn't care if they got cancelled then were so quick to take it back and apologize 😂
@Hurrrdurrrrrrr
@Hurrrdurrrrrrr Жыл бұрын
Thank God I'm not super out as a system anymore. The community makes me paranoid.
@rebeccawalilko960
@rebeccawalilko960 Жыл бұрын
Vangelina, I know this is strange to say, but you are literally the only person I trust to report anything on the DID community and I appreciate you keeping up to date because I just get so damn confused otl
@MilkBottleTops
@MilkBottleTops Жыл бұрын
I really don’t understand what DD has done wrong. They get tons of hate in their comment sections and all over subreddits and stuff. Bo saying all of that stuff then pulling the “but I don’t want to start drama” innocent face bs feels insanely manipulative to me. I don’t think DD is affecting Bo or their community but she’s the one causing a scene 🤦🏼‍♀️
@bobnotbobff
@bobnotbobff Жыл бұрын
She promotes ritual abuse as legitimate when it something quanon has used and comes from antisemitism also her therapist has probably convinced her that she has DID which sort of makes her a victim but I still can't watch her videos
@TheIndigoSystem
@TheIndigoSystem Жыл бұрын
BoBo is a vile person.
@goblin6799
@goblin6799 Жыл бұрын
@@bobnotbobff Where did she promote ritual abuse…?
@bunnylacy2097
@bunnylacy2097 Жыл бұрын
Bobo complaining about DD having money and having expensive items comes off as very immature and like theyre jealous
@JayneAFK
@JayneAFK Жыл бұрын
Seems like a lot of simultaneous projection *and* jealousy from Bobo, honestly. One second she's getting mad at Kya for not properly looking after Kya's own littles, but then goes onto threaten Kya, which would inevitably end up hurting the littles considering, y’know, Kya and their littles are the same person. Doesn't compute. Lots of little hypocrisies like those, where she's chastising Kya but then doing the thing herself, which makes me wonder if other accusations towards Kya is stuff Bobo is actually the one doing and she's projecting that out and onto others. Also, as other people have said, hurt people hurt people. As someone on the spectrum, I'm very aware that like attracts like. Most of my online friends are neurodivergent in one way or another, and sometimes it's great. Other times, especially regarding issues related to trauma, the damage can be devastating when clashes arise. Some people, who probs won't read this comment now tbf, need to understand that Bobo isn't just some random online person to Kya. They know each other and have met in person, probably still know roughly where each other lives at minimum, and so Bobo could super easily turn up to where Kya is. That's what makes a threat so scary and credible, imo. I know we also need to be careful to not demonise people w/ mental illness, but we can hurt people in various ways whenever our issues are left unchecked. If Bobo felt righteous in "stopping" Kya, by force if necessary, then they might well have sought to act on it. It's also super frustrating that Kya is being held responsible, still, for Pinata's actions. Kya didn't know until the news dropped, and yeah, they didn't throw Pinata away completely right away but...so what? They needed time to get all of the facts, process everything and decide what to do from there. That's normal. Enough with the blame games now ffs.
@emmikate
@emmikate Жыл бұрын
Oh good! I wanted to see this part of the live only but I was busy. Sweet thanks!
@VangelinaSkov
@VangelinaSkov Жыл бұрын
Gotcha covered 😎
@olive_99
@olive_99 Жыл бұрын
"we like to know what people are saying about us" that's exactly your problem right there 😬
@AngelsLieToKeepCtrl
@AngelsLieToKeepCtrl Жыл бұрын
Wait, Team P is still on the internet? What in the actual Kentucky Fried Chicken?
@yennefer440
@yennefer440 Жыл бұрын
Ikr 🤢
@DraganaJ
@DraganaJ Жыл бұрын
...I really don't know about that. I guess I'll wait for Vangelina's next video for more info, because based on what Kya said a few vids ago I was sure they were dead
@mayawashington5240
@mayawashington5240 Жыл бұрын
Sustainable for one person is not sustainable for another. I don’t know Bobo & Co not have I listened to their content but it just seems like they’re upset about things that don’t necessarily have anything to do with them. Like Kya having a nice house and nice things doesn’t mean they aren’t struggling. Court proceedings are expensive especially when they are drawn out. My point being you never really know what someone has or someone is going through just by looking at them.
@wendysmith3783
@wendysmith3783 Жыл бұрын
I love your nuanced and discerning assessments!
@Em_goldstar
@Em_goldstar Жыл бұрын
I’m blown away that people are backing bobo… do they have no empathy for what DD is going through now with Costa? And to now threaten them on the internet? This is ridiculous, especially coming from another individual with DID. I guarantee, if DD had made a video with this kind of information, bobo would have dragged them through the mud. There’s a difference between airing dirty laundry for drama and actually working through a situation helpfully for both parties. Funny how bobo just wants to forget a real threat of physical violence, but are fine calling out the stuff DD has apologized for.
@felixmacfarlane8077
@felixmacfarlane8077 Жыл бұрын
1) hypocritical to call out Kya's tiktok about that commenter that Kya apologised for, then did this "joke" threat and tried to apologise for it in much the same way. 2) weird to list a content creator coming out as trans as being as cancellable an event as james charles texting a 16 year old I'm sure they meant it in a different way to how it comes across but that part of their video sucks
@amandarhoads4640
@amandarhoads4640 Жыл бұрын
Vangelina, looking forward to seeing your video about Team Pinata updates. I didn't realize that they had rebranded and were still on the internet.
@MaryAkaKanyonaticUk
@MaryAkaKanyonaticUk Жыл бұрын
DID gave them a cease and dissist
@Fabbiabbi234
@Fabbiabbi234 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video - I always find your viewpoints very fair, balanced and pretty eloquent too! Looking forward to future videos
@jenniferlenfestey5335
@jenniferlenfestey5335 Жыл бұрын
Oh cool, this is the three hours, in parts. Thank you for leaving the live up a couple of days, it was good catch up time. I'll watch this too, for views and the algorithm.
@ImperfectNobody
@ImperfectNobody Жыл бұрын
I don't fully know the tiktok situation with Dissociadid, but if what Bo was saying is true, then yeah they seem to be in the wrong. However, I DON'T understand how Bo can say "Dissociadid is keeping up on us DID creators" and act upset by that and then not only admit to following Dissociadid drama, but aggressively respond to it with what appeared to be a threat. It's clear to me that this is unhealthy- like when a youtuber obsesses over hate comments and keeps responding to them and commenting on them. I understand wanting to address things you deem to be wrong, but it's just not healthy to follow things that are clearly upsetting you.
@ImperfectNobody
@ImperfectNobody Жыл бұрын
It reminds me of me a few years back, obsessively checking the tiktok account of a girl who said disgusting things to me irl. I would go on her account and get MAD when I saw she was getting more and more followers, more comments, etc. But it didn't do anything but make me feel horrible.
@TheCat2479
@TheCat2479 Жыл бұрын
Thx for posting this! I only knew some details and this safes me hours of scrolling^^
@mae_synodic
@mae_synodic Жыл бұрын
personally i didn't like how bobo was acting in the video, it was quite triggering even when DD is triggered they are mature about it and take a step back bobo just comes off as jealous and bitter, so they obsess over ways to poke holes in DDs image just like everyone else on the reddit and kiwifarms i also just disliked how bobo constantly misgendered DD (kya&co's tiktok - which bobo admitted to frequenting - has its pronouns as they/them) as well as intentionally using their legal name, chloe personally i think actions speak louder than words, the way bobo acts on their twitter, on their youtube and also taking low-blows at kya (about their success, their living arrangements, clothing and cats) is just... so incredibly inappropriate having a discussion about someones actions in their community has nothing to do with their income or living situation i think DD making the community post was honestly reasonable since they were getting asked about the video often supposedly, i think they also responded maturely, which bobo didn't in our opinion again, i just think actions speak louder than words, bobo seems obsessed and is being hypocritical, while kya is just trying to move on from everything, they don't even talk about any past issues online unless it's contextual and tbh, the comments DD made on tiktok were too much but not really uncalled for - i know if an online stranger tried to tell me how to manage our system littles i'd be really annoyed, it doesn't come off caring like they'd hoped, but DD didn't need to call them names at all i know they do consider their tiktok more personal and less professional like their other platforms which are under the DD name, so maybe that had part in how they responded i think also DD is very private about their littles due to safety (jade once made an entire video on this) so i personally think that's another entire facet anyhow, as a system ourselves we can honestly say the drama in the DID community is just stressful and triggering for everyone that takes part, it well and truly plays into the stigma and ruins the image of our community bobo thinks they're being a knight in shining armor bringing all this up but realistically it's just shitting on top of a huge pile of pre-existing shit thinking it is getting to the heart of the issue - it's not... in saying that they seem like they're not in a good mental space and obsessing over DD is really not helping that *at all*, i hope they find some peace and stability soon it's easy for things (like their past with DD) to sort of egg on IRL issues, such as their home life and the other things they chat about in the video in our experience it (something like their bitterness toward DD) can become a really easy tool to latch onto and channel heavy feelings into it feels better in the moment but long term it's so unhealthy, we've been there and it just isn't anything but digging a deeper hole for your mental health tbh anyhow, in our personal opinion we think it's best everyone moves on with their seperate lives and focuses on the goal - destigmatizing DID/OSDD, being kind to one another, furthering research, helping newer systems feel supported, so on sorry for the long opinion, it's pretty multifaceted and we tried not to leave a stone unturned thank you for the video, it was really helpful as usual!
@magikenzee
@magikenzee Жыл бұрын
It's so funny to watch all these people supposedly advocating for mental health and supports and such just constantly attacking each other and doing things to traumatize them then getting mad when they do it back
@TheIndigoSystem
@TheIndigoSystem Жыл бұрын
DD isn’t suing her. That’s another lie.
@badkarma3828
@badkarma3828 Жыл бұрын
One day more ppl will understand the absolute vilification of DD and they will feel ashamed for what they did. hopefully. idc about details. No one deserves what she went through online. and if what she said about the assault from the so called "friend".... i don't have words to explain how awful that would be considering everyone assumed she was just lying.
@SanaLovesMahado1
@SanaLovesMahado1 Жыл бұрын
All I can say is Reddit is a toxic place (sometimes, unless you can find a decent one, I don’t know) and people have so many different opinions that almost anything goes, but threatening someone? Yeah. Not a good look.
@panopticonseye
@panopticonseye Жыл бұрын
it definitely depends on what you go looking for on the site. i haven't seen any toxicity on the parts of reddit i inhabit, but i mainly go on there for fun facts and animal pictures lol
@alexamandes8872
@alexamandes8872 Жыл бұрын
I really don’t know enough about this whole thing to have an opinion one way or another but if this girl was trying to get important points out there for the first time, she totally lost everything she said by making that threat that everyone is now so focused on. It sucks for anyone that is upset and trying to make a point and it gets lost in one detail that everyone fixates on, whether or not it’s deserved
@carolinacollins7376
@carolinacollins7376 Жыл бұрын
Heya, I'm half way through the vid rn! I'm ngl, I think that Bobo's remarks were disgusting and out of line. They did take accountability and edit them out tho, so that's the end of that for me. The only thing that irks me about this situation atm is the ppl who were - and probably still are - defending Bobo's remarks. I'm honestly surprised by the amount of ppl who are willing to play devil's advocate and justify bad behaviour just cause they dislike DD. I saw one person go so far as to claim that what Bobo said was "banter", which is complete bs.
@carolinacollins7376
@carolinacollins7376 Жыл бұрын
All that being said tho, I'm geniuenely surprised to see DD being treated with such vitriol by members of their own community. I've only recently started keeping up with them again after finding out that they were taken to court, so I'm def missing a lot of context, but still. This is so jarring... and the wildest part is that I can't even tell if it's warranted or not 😟 What atrocities has DD committed to be a called a bully, a faker and be accused of ruining the DID community??
@phoebesmith8154
@phoebesmith8154 Жыл бұрын
@@carolinacollins7376 maybe there is a reason?
@carolinacollins7376
@carolinacollins7376 Жыл бұрын
@@phoebesmith8154 A reason for what? A reason for them to defend Bobo's remarks? Cause if that's what you mean then I don't agree. What Bobo said in the part they edited out wasn't good and there's no reason to defend it.
@hitmewithacliche
@hitmewithacliche Жыл бұрын
I realise the irony of posting this on a drama video/channel, but this is what I posted on DD's clarification post (after Bo worried they were being sued when it was just a warning). "I haven't watched the vid or anything and if they had beef with you or disagreed/disbelieved what you say they could take it up with you. You haven't said anything against them that I've seen beyond "we're aware they have said this". I want to support/enjoy all of you, it's a shame the friendships broke up but I feel like some of it should have been between yourselves or in private group chats unless it's a "this person is a genuine danger to their community/other people and here is why" type deal. Otherwise it all becomes hear'say and fans being pitted against one another whether the people involved asked for it or not. "We stopped being friends because of conflict that could not be resolved and we ask you to leave both us and them alone regarding this" from all sides should have sufficed. This sorta thing happens in private friendship groups too but it's easy to forget that when audiences are involved and people feel entitled to know/debate on every lil thing going on between people which just fuels the flames." I'd like to add given this context that neither party, from what I've seen, in any of the dramas with the friend group, has asked fans to go after the other creator nor have they condemned it. So I don't think any party should blame the other for their fans.
@roetc
@roetc Жыл бұрын
Anyways, "hypothetical aggressive situation" is quite literally what a threat is. And "joke" feels like a euphemism here. Either way, a lot of this back comes down to ppl calling anyone who says sth they don't like an ab*ser, "you're an ab*ser, no YOU'RE the ab*ser" and this is not sth only happening in DID online spaces but sth I've encountered in irl activist spaces for example. Defo a sign that both parties are emotionally activated, which makes sense giving their respective backgrounds. I don't think social media is always the best place for traumatised ppl bc there is often so little nuance, which just feeds into already activated nervous systems. An activated traumatised brain will see things very black and white, with the purpose of identifying (possible) threats. Personally I really try to take things online w a grain of salt and assume we can't know the full story from a social media post. It can get exhausting out here, yet social media is also an important gathering place for disabled ppl who can't access offline public spaces as much. Sorry for rambling without a concise conclusion lol
@ashleyking3385
@ashleyking3385 Жыл бұрын
I don't think everyone should just shrug off what Bo has said. A few people have come out throughout the years saying similar things about Kya.
@zenaphillipsjensen7262
@zenaphillipsjensen7262 Жыл бұрын
But why is it okay for bobo to say, sorry, at that is not okay.. but it is not okay for DID for saying sorry for her mishaps?
@twiztedsynz
@twiztedsynz Жыл бұрын
I've seen DD apologize for their mistakes so not sure why this keeps being thrown out there as if it's a thing?
@ShesAaRebel
@ShesAaRebel Жыл бұрын
Because nothing Kya does is ever going to be good enough, according to this toxic community. Their list of "sins" goes on for miles. They tried to address everything in the long Q&A they did with Braidid, but again, "Not good enough". I've come to realise that everyone in that subreddit are part of something called "outrage culture". They pick a side they see as the most socially justifiable, and stick with the group dynamics 1000%. It's ride or die, and leaves no room for nuance. It's really unhealthy to think that way, and you are going to drive yourself insane trying to keep up with that way of thinking and those standards.
@CyanideSunshines
@CyanideSunshines Жыл бұрын
It depends on the fans. Both systems are traumatized and both have valid reasons to be upset. DD do come across as wanting to be the victim in every situation. Bobo&co can come across as childish . DD can be very manipulative
@BigFloppaMyLove
@BigFloppaMyLove Жыл бұрын
@@CyanideSunshines I agree. DD would have nothing to gain by posting this publicly. Bobo has paraplegia and is living literally paychecks to paycheck, regularly not eating and unable to afford therapy, nevermind fighting legal proceedings. they have no option other than to do whatever the "letter" says. it's fucking cruel man. DD knew exactly what would happen when posting about it on almost every single social media platforms they have.
@geraldiinapommedeterre629
@geraldiinapommedeterre629 Жыл бұрын
@@BigFloppaMyLove also I think what bobo said is incredibly cruel. If a person I was friend's with in the past said that about me it would feel really horrendous. Even if Bobo suffers a lot I don't think it excuses what they did. I really wish both of them could just move on. I don't understand what Bobo thinks they will accomplish with still talking about DD?
@MinimumGnome
@MinimumGnome Жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting this, I had to leave in the middle of the livestream just as it was getting juicy.
@ameliasparkles13
@ameliasparkles13 Жыл бұрын
Omg same!!
@withyoctopus
@withyoctopus Жыл бұрын
I'd like to understand the drama but she's incoherent and I can't catch her points at all. What did DD do to BOBO?
@weronikaa.3498
@weronikaa.3498 Жыл бұрын
That narcissistic smirk that Bo has throughout the whole video, just says it all... It's so hard to watch someone pretending to be "afraid" and speak their "truth", while they speak this way.
@uffda3937
@uffda3937 Жыл бұрын
I'm glad someone else noticed that. She was for sure trying to get an ego boost with that video.
@ShesAaRebel
@ShesAaRebel Жыл бұрын
Exactly this! I was trying to figure out what it was about how she came across that made me feel really uncomfortable, and I think that was it. It was like your worst childhood bully. Nothing about it was constructive or succinct.
@JayneAFK
@JayneAFK Жыл бұрын
Bobo always smirks like that whenever they talk or are about to talk about anything DID related and certain other personal issues too, it's always been incredibly off-putting, 'cause it gives the impression they're somehow being untruthful to some extent and looking for pity.
@tvexed
@tvexed Жыл бұрын
I love how you explain your human before you start your vids
@kaitlinsnair2386
@kaitlinsnair2386 Жыл бұрын
You mentioned Pixielocks, I actually knew her locally years ago
@StitchingMothVibes
@StitchingMothVibes Жыл бұрын
Wow! That transphobic as hell comment about Nikki Tutorials that bobo made was uncalled for.
@BoboCoOfficial
@BoboCoOfficial Жыл бұрын
????
@leobeboop4944
@leobeboop4944 Жыл бұрын
What
@StitchingMothVibes
@StitchingMothVibes Жыл бұрын
@@leobeboop4944 I got timestamps
@jennatavares4695
@jennatavares4695 Жыл бұрын
God watching Bobo is ALARMING. Skittering about, ultra accusatory, like they're struggling to put together something rational. Behaving entirely like a scorned former friend with a more popular former friend. Like they're grasping everywhere for enough straws to make US feel like their argument is valid. The repeating of "bestie" in a mocking tone. Like if someone isn't your friend, DONT mockingly use bestie as a means of talking down to them. It's a bad look. Bobo just looks more and more like my abusive former best friend. The girl would invite me out with her friends and when they were more interested in me than her all night (since I had actually done stuff in my life warranting interest) she'd be angry. She'd tell me the next day or so that "they had been talking about you but I DEFENDED you" when ACTUALLY she'd go around shopping narratives until they didn't like me anymore. Some people are so stuck up their own ass that they think they're righteous in their actions. Bobo repeatedly uses that "amped up bad friend" tone like sickly sweet with a bite. Using whatever allegations they can to imply DD is a monster. like Bobo is such a fake mental health supporter. Certainly not doing the things you SHOULD try to do when you're trying to mend mental health. My therapist would be dying if she saw this behavior. Leading with the sharpest edge they think they have instead of leading with empathy or kindness
@annavor3391
@annavor3391 Жыл бұрын
After watching Bobo and Co's video.. I can say that they make me so uncomfortable. I can't believe anything they're saying... I take anything they're saying with a grain of salt... even their DID... They are making a fool of themselves online... the way they complain all the time (about poverty, people, ... literally anything...) they are ALWAYS 'triggered' ... they shout at their cat. ... I don't think that being online is good for them... It's like jealosy mixed with very obsessive behaviour
@cheetahtfk7274
@cheetahtfk7274 Жыл бұрын
I've followed the DID KZfaq community closely for 5+ years now, and it's really evident that one by one these creators are showing their true colors. It's really ironic that Bobo was bashing DissociaDID's reputation while actively flushing their own down the toilet. I used to follow Bobo and Co., but I got tired of their drama and hypocrisy, and I absolutely draw the line at threats of physical violence. That's no "joke". Especially from someone who has experienced extreme trauma to threaten someone else who has experienced extreme trauma... disgusting isn't a strong enough word for that behavior. The DID community just needs to leave DissociaDID alone already. They've been your punching bag for long enough. Move on.
@goblin6799
@goblin6799 Жыл бұрын
All of this drama aside.. I never see anyone talking about this, but if Bo is really in such financial hardships that she can’t even afford food for herself, how is it responsible for her to have a cat? I’m not familiar with her living situations but as someone who has pets myself, it can be really expensive to take care of them, especially their vet bills. Idk I might be wrong, but I feel like if DD did this, the whole community would tear her to shreds for being negligent to animals.
@shy3487
@shy3487 Жыл бұрын
She talks constantly about "what's even keeping me here" and joining her self described toxic partner in London and doesn't seem to see how that would work out
@addictedtodr.pepper
@addictedtodr.pepper Жыл бұрын
For me, I'd sell plasma to buy food for myself and my dogs when I was in a very tight spot. Sometimes I wouldn't eat or the dogs would have small meals. At the end of the day, if I wasn't able to give them proper care I reached out to others for assistance. And when I've had change to spare I've given food to homeless people with pets (a can of food is about $1.50 USD with tax) every animal deserves the best care possible but not everyone is able to provide that, and majority of the time the pet would rather stay with its owner, then be given to shelter to be put down (many shelter in the US are kill shelters and are at max capacity) plus most food is able to be bought in bulk (which is also what I did to save money) so even if I went hungry my babies were fed
@addictedtodr.pepper
@addictedtodr.pepper Жыл бұрын
Then again people tear apart dd anyways. This would just be another thing to the list lol, not excusing it, just giving some real scenarios in which neglect isn't intentional nor severe, I hope bobo is able to afford to eat. And that her baby never starves. But I see your point, it's very concerning for someone who can't feed themselves to take care of an animal. Most people find a way, and I hope she has and will continue to
@snoopy-mf7nv
@snoopy-mf7nv Жыл бұрын
Bobo girl seems as if she is on uppers or something? And why don’t people communicate directly with people that they have a problem with? Instead of misdirecting it to an audience? Passive-aggressive people do that s**t! This is as low as gossip. You all are straight out instigating bullies! In comparison, I honestly don’t see anything DD every did or say that was so very wrong to warrant this at all? I see a lot of wrongs on the other ends, a lot.
@ginnyweasly8464
@ginnyweasly8464 Жыл бұрын
Omg… this is the first of your videos that I watched in quite some time and I‘m just realizing, that I really missed you and your content! I hope that you and your kitties are doing fine ❤️
@keweplz
@keweplz Жыл бұрын
Honest question though, kya's posts are pretty much all civil and professional except when they went off and called that one user a twat, all I've seen publicly on their end has been setting clear boundaries and sticking to them, even in the braidid situation where they shared screenshots they were all civil asking time and time again for their boundaries to be respected, should they have elaborated more in some aspects yes but for someone who was clearly triggered and needed some space could you really ask that of them? I'm failing to understand how setting boundaries and not letting people step all over them is bullying. Is it just bullying because kya has a bigger platform and can hold her ex friends accountable for things they said and did? How is it bullying when they are the ones bringing everything into the public eye and having their followers go after her and when she clears the air all of a sudden she is the one at fault? Make it make sense
@Jack-ww5hw
@Jack-ww5hw Жыл бұрын
I also found it odd when Bobo said they were one of the original 6 DIDtubers? Unless I misheard that bit? I don't know what they would mean by that ??
@mikalcarruthers
@mikalcarruthers Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed the live stream Wednesday and i was also glad to see Bobo in chat but i also felt bad for Bobo that they were being harrassed during the live stream. I wish Bobo the best and i hope they are ok. I don't wish for anyone going through that
@KitahKat
@KitahKat Жыл бұрын
I was at the live stream too and didn't see Bobo being harassed at all! Everyone was nice to Bobo when they arrived. Sure, people had been expressing their opinions before Bobo showed, but over all it was super civil and good convo!
@mikalcarruthers
@mikalcarruthers Жыл бұрын
I didn't mean Bobo was harrassed in chat. I thought they was harassed by some trolls on Reddit or some trolls who were NOT in chat, but i do apologize if i misspoke. I appreciate everyone in the stream respecting Bobo.
@QUAK1EZ
@QUAK1EZ Жыл бұрын
i dont understand the whole "she calls someone s twat but when i do it i get chased off the internet" thing. why be mad at her? why not be mad at the community for being "unfair"? it just seems like misplaced anger and frustration being directed at dd. i'm not too well versed in DID drama because i only really watch DissociaDID's videos on youtube and tiktok so maybe im biased and/or misinformed, but i think everyone has a problem with reacting instead of intentionally responding (even if they are slowly choosing their words) which led them to coming to this conclusion of dd being the main problem instead of the community? i could think more but that section really struck me the wrong way.
@velvetshock
@velvetshock Жыл бұрын
I understand Bobo is angry and that they have a different view of what happened between themselves and DD than DD's view of what happened. Even two people who do not have trauma could have a conflict and their views on the situation would differ. I don't think venting your frustration when you're angry and upset and posting it online is ever a good idea regardless of what the situation is or who you are. I don't blame Bobo for the harrasment they have received because no one deserves to be harrassed online but when you post about certain people/issues it does attract hate. I'm not saying Bobo shouldn't have made the video as sometimes that can be theraputic to get things off your chest but posting was not the best idea. It's always hard to heal and move past these situations especially when it's between two ex friends. As most of us on the internet weren't there no one can say for certian what did or did not happen and you can't invalidate another's feelings even if you don't agree with them. I do also feel like by looking in kiwifarms and reddits etc isn't the healthiest thing for anyone but especially Bobo in this situation as in my opinion it can only feed those negative feelings in Bobo and reopen old wounds. I think the best thing for both parties in this situation is to ignore the other and not mention them in posts or videos going forward. Regarding what Bobo has said about DD stating that they are poor I have never been under that impression. I know legal battles take a lot of money and DD has said that fighting Mr Costa has used all of their life savings but no where has DD said that they can not afford their rent, food etc to my knowledge. I feel for Bobo because economically everything sucks right now espcially in the UK where energy bills are super high and the cost of food seems to be increasing weekly and I hope that they are okay. I have not seen any evidence that DD has filed a legal case against Bobo though the community tab thread has said they wrote a letter to them so that would be a cease and desist which is not the same as suing someone. Overall I hope that Bobo is okay and is able to heal and move forward. I hope that for DD that they acknowledge Bobo's appology and they are able to move past it. No one should harrass or send hate to anyone but the internet sadly is not the nicest or safest place and some people will be hurtful. I hope DD doesn't make a video or address this situation further as it's not needed in my opinion.
@Edencool13
@Edencool13 Жыл бұрын
@velvetshock there was a point where DD said they couldn't afford food and rent
@ponetium
@ponetium Жыл бұрын
Honestly, this is such a shitshow. Still, I couldn't look away.
@skystruck236
@skystruck236 Жыл бұрын
It really does reflect her character though, regardless of what she wants to say, these actions DO REFLECT a persons character. To make a video ranting about someone else, does show how you behave as a person. I would not want to be their friend cause god only knows how she “rants” to whoever about whoever. Not to be trusted
@zenith2640
@zenith2640 Жыл бұрын
KZfaq notifs coming in clutch
@kyru6776
@kyru6776 Жыл бұрын
I usually just lurk but since you asked in the beginning if we wanted to get your thoughts on something... You could do a video on the whole Hogwarts Legacy boycotting thing if you wanted? It's a bit of a serious topic though (i think?) which you might not want to delve into, but I'm curious about your thoughts.
@leobeboop4944
@leobeboop4944 Жыл бұрын
I second this! I have heard of this but I don't really know what it's about
@VangelinaSkov
@VangelinaSkov Жыл бұрын
Oof idk if I wanna open up that can of worms but I’ll think about it, maybe just as another livestream topic tho so feel free to suggest it in streams
@kyru6776
@kyru6776 Жыл бұрын
@@VangelinaSkov understandable tbh lmao xd
@shibibi1
@shibibi1 Жыл бұрын
Physical assault isn't a joke. the fact people are so quick to write physical assault off as a joke is absolutely terrifying. I don't understand the hate directed at DD. Yes they're far from perfect but there's not a single DIDtuber whose not said or done something screwed up. I also don't understand why the DID community is okay with DD being constantly critiqued, questioned and abused... but the moment anyone else is critiqued they loose their shit. Also KYA IS NON BINARY!!!! the chronic misgendering is inexcusable as it speaks to a lack of respect in general to not just DD but gender non conforming people. It appears that the DIDtube community is insistent on making DD their scapegoat for everything. it's exhausting and as someone who learned about my own plurality recently, it's the DIDtube community that scares me. NOT DD
@peachdreams
@peachdreams Жыл бұрын
It's not bullying to sue someone who is threatening your life and harassing you unsolicitedly. DD is putting a clear boundary, that if you do not respect her she will follow her RIGHT to protect herself and that includes suing abusive jealous victim players who publicly try to defame and threaten her online. On top of that, she didn't even sue her, she warned her, with a cease and desist letter, yet Bobo is still trying to hype up her smear campaign towards DD.
@maiv9434
@maiv9434 Жыл бұрын
Honestly, I don't know much about this drama going on, i have never followed it as I have never followed the DID community in general, just some creators and mostly DD, so well , my perspective is obviously narrow. But damn, listening to the clip from Bobo just didn't sit right with me... Maybe DD did wrong them in some way, but holy shit that tone and way of speaking was just so full of contempt.
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