If Cole sweeps the leg he can beat anyone, he’s just too classy to go dirty from the get go.

Impressed by the quality of your research, the depth of your analysis, and the clarity with which you lay all this out. Subscribed.

Cool video, there are 2 key information missing: 1. The Berrics is Cariuma, Cariuma is the Berrics, not like DC or Nike, Steve Berra is quite involved with Cariuma and they play a big role in the Berrics as a whole. 2. The brackets were crafted to have these 4 Cariuma riders on finals night, this year there was no brackets draw, this is why they made Jamie Griffin (current winner) VS Sewa (previous winner, current 3rd place) cancel each other on round 1, while they also had burner matches like Leo VS Braden. Makes more sense to talk about this than staged matches 💀☠

Cariuma is not a brazilian brand. This is only marketing, or lying marketing.

Last season's final was like a sports-movie good vs. evil, with the humble homeboy Griffin vs. evil calculated Cariuma-boy.

I don’t think the games are inauthentic BUT I do think The Berrics are contractually obligated to have a set amount of riders who are sponsored by the main sponsor in the tournament. I think there’d be SOMEONE who came out and said it was phony if it truly was

9:42 While it's already obvious, it's actually been confirmed that the Legion of Doom games are scripted. Dan Corrigan, who was part of the Legion of Doom against PJ Ladd in BATB 10, said in a video that they had to fake letting PJ win. The video is called "core skater explains what is a pro skater" and it happens around the 3:20 mark.

Your data keeps getting less dumb.

Joslin will defeat Peterson, it is written

Looking forward to this one. *grabs popcorn/tinfoil hat

“Face down on the berries floor” xD

“pseudo-authentic game of skate competition” well-said.

Witnessing Jamie win last years tournament was a a legendary moment in flat ground games of skate. The fact that we are witnessing this is a blessing, and to hear that he’s not pulling in. VIEWS just means work early and when he no longer does these contest, if that happens in the future we’ll be able to talk about we were there, I guess what I’m basically saying is people are Trippin for not clicking on his games of skate definitely looking forward to the next game. It’s about to be wild.

Love that you ended the video with jerry. Dude is probably my favorite skater

It’s funny how Tyshawn won skater of the year two times as well

I’m here for the dumb but often find myself staying for the data.

The last time there was a really serious game of skate competition was the és games of skate tour. Berrics is just for fun but its made enough money and has such massive sponsors that it’s obliged to present as though its more serious than it is. The goofy matches and loose judging are just a product of something cool holding onto what it used to be. Imagine the owners of a mom n pop diner came back from a business seminar in vegas and now they’ve become tgi fridays

off topic, but what's a good non-shoe lace/slip-on skater shoe taht wont break the bank?

what to do you know, when things get big everything turns fake

DOUBT ME DUDE!!!!😂😂😂😂 nice frame work

We need a non biased game of skate with pros from all companies. I would pay money to see Rodney or Daewon

Jamie be effing up the script and I love him for it!

YESSS- ON POINT AGAIN

these events arent scripted. Cariuma just sponsors a few good flat skaters. I run events in different sports, the competitors sometimes ride for the main sponsor, judges dont push them more because they ride for them, its just at the high level of the sport everyones really good. especially when some brands are entirely built around their team all having multiple world championships. you arent going to stop those guys from making it pretty far.

What started as a friendly games of skate has turned dramatic over the years

History is repeating itself... Es Game of Skate used to be the big prestigious game of skate tournament... Then the organisers seemingly attempted to influence outcomes and it ruined the whole thing. For the 2013? tournament, Es separated it into separate Pro and Am divisions and they banned Alex Mizurov (the champion from the previous year) from competing in the Pro division. Alex Mizurov's sponsors even tried to do things to meet criteria to give him pro status for the tournament. Tournament organisers still said no, and he could only compete in the Am division. The conspiracy theory back then was that Es wanted an american pro champion. And they got it. Chris Cole won the Pro division and Alex Mizurov won the Am division. Ironically, these 2 skaters had played against each other in one of the best games of skate ever in the previous years final. Did they get to play eachother again even after winning their respective divisions? No The berrics is following a very similar path.

Cariuma are like the skate version of the starburry shoes, low quality, but prices way higher. The starburrys were a good deal at least lmaoo

I can honestly see it with the amount of fuck around skating in this season and having kids officiate the matches, some games with terrible redo calls on perfectly fine tricks, there seems to be something fishy going on if not to rig the bracket, definitely to influence the results in a particular direction.

"You carry me I Cariuma"

1:37 Steve having the air of Marv from Home Alone 1 with that shiny tooth

Deep, Dumb Data

If you go back in time you can see that the brands that sponsored BATB were pretty big (when looking how many people ride for them) so naturally you expect a few skaters that ride for that company on the final. Especially if they are crazy good like Mo, Luan, Shane, etc. Nowdays it’s Cariuma time they’re sponsoring everybody, but sooner or later a new brand will come and the cycle will repeat. Skate is not a profitable industry

My first thought is that if you got the money you sponsor the best skaters and it makes sense the best skaters end up amongst the best.

Still wish we had gotten to see what Jerry could have done

no comment on the ridiculous interruptions of the guy trying a trick in the middle of the koston cole battle?

Tyler was a plant in BATB 12 to insure Cariuma had shoes in the final game. Not sure if you’ve covered that. Great content!

Cariuma are like skate sketchers

Dumb Data Is The Voice You Hear Inside Your Head 😯

thumbs up for the jerry hsu + blink 182 outro

Makes sense that a sponsor of a competition would try and get as many of their riders involved as they could.

I hope Jamie wins again

I googled ELO and my brain broke

The best Brazilian skate shoe is OUS , hands down. And they actually made in Brasil. Tiago should collab with them but hed rather get that international money. I dnt blame em, but here, his nb's are more than double the price in EU/America

Havent seen cariuma in one store in sao paulo Brasil. They dont even have a Brasilian website.

I've been thinking about how they can pre record rounds 1-3 all at once (if that's indeed what they did), and information on the winners doesn't get out to the public.. Last year Sean Davis/Shaun Hover rematch seemed to have been filmed in real time right after the first battle got all the negative feedback, it doesn't seem like the 13th season went with this format of filming in real time every week at all, but all in one go. There's a comment on the Tyler vs Joslin vid that said something to the effect of "And Luan beat Jamie, so we could get Luan vs Tyler in the finals" I'm inclined to believe the comment since all it would take is one person at the battle in person months ago to tell a friend the winner, then the friend types it as a comment. It doesn't seem like a troll comment. It made me wonder how they're able to keep the information from the public with people watching the games in person.. it seems so easy for info on winners to get out beforehand (again IF indeed all battles from round 1-3 were filmed months ago, which seems to be the case)

i have no clue about statistics and maths but he puts it nicely

If Jamie wanted to he could absolutely sweep every game. He plays nice for much of the game. If he played dirty there's zero chance Luan could even come close.

i had a bunch of considerations lined up to comment but the ending made me laugh like a proper idiot and now i can't remember what i even came here to say. (conspirationists could point out that this could be dumb data's actual intention)

Longtime fan/follower. Love your dedication to skateboarding & crunching numbers. You deserve more credit. I got a serious question. Need some advice. Im into twin tails now & havent bought a shop board in a year. Last one was an 8.125 & thats all I ride now since then. (Im very particular. 8 is too small for board surface/control & 8.25 is too big.) I prefer twin tail. Works better overall. My problem is I cant find a twin tail 8 1/8 inch board to save my life. Everywhere I go its like PJ ladd or tom penny giving an interview. A fucking unicorn. I thought I got one on one site but I got an email saying it was long sold out & the site wasnt updated. Was refunded. I know Im spilling my soul here but I love skateboarding & Ive been away from it for too long. Only learned 1 new trick this entire year. Drumroll. What do I do? Should I get the more common twin tail (8 inch) or ride the standard regular asym 8.125? Should I settle in other words?

I think Andy Anderson probably got clearance to do some not-normally-seen BATB tricks but it was rolled back after the first battle. Maybe he would have taken control within the rules if he won rock paper scissors, but I think he just was less invested after not being able to compete in his own way.

“That one game” hahaha

I almost cared then I realized I didn’t. I just like watching great skaters play skate.

Jerry Hsu at the end

We need a legion vs justice league BATB. where the captains of each team choose their team. Even if it means bringing Rodney out of retirement.

ELO is just dumb for BATB, yes it would be better if these guys had hundreds of games each under their belt but they don't. It's almost as dumb as diving into Rock-Paper-Scissors statistics.

Can someone tell me what ELO stands for?

Lessons in what we already know about business.

A lot are probably too young to remember, but the same thing happened a few decades ago with Nike. No one wanted a non-skate brand sponsoring skaters, or involved in skating in any way at all. They kept at it and now Nike is just another skate shoe.

Rooting for Cole and Luan. Cariuma is weird but they sponsor a lot of stuff

rooting for Jamie

@3:19 knock em out with the stock photo nice one 😅

Cole v Cepeda was most certainly a T to T barnstormer.

it seems like the ones who made the top tier is a tie between sewa, shane and Pj. Where Sewa and Pj are theoretically both double champs, but Shane never prevailed. That's kinda specially tho. and let's be honest: Sewa prolly wouldn't had call the toe drag if there where T on T, but they where 4-0... which made me think even back than, that he thought he'll win regardless. the chances were very great, right dumbdata?! And second: Joslin would prolly had also missed the 2nd fs double flip, right? So you can say, if you want to, that Sewa also is supposed to be a double champ... Mike Mo seems to be 2nd on that list. (off topic: damn, i feel like Ryan Sheckler would get embarrassed with batb, else he would be in many times.) they should do a proper seaon with all the best rated names and at batb 16 they should do something like all star champs. like with all the champs, and mike and pj's slot for the 2nd win could be replaced with each 2nds.

Saw my boy Sean in this hahaha

While i agree that some of the games appear fixed, i wouldnt necessarily say they are 'scripted'... and i certainly wouldnt say the entire bracket is scripted/rigged just because the leading sponsor has several skaters in late bracket. I think its easy to look at some of the coincidences and unfortunate circumstances (i.e. Carlos Injury) and say "its rigged" but we all have to remember how difficult skating actually is, and even more difficult to fake. I personally dont think Andys game, or any games were rigged, including the Legion battles. I think its fair to accept that Legion battles are for the viewers to kill space and time, they arent meant to disrupt. If one of the 2 football teams in the super bowl tragically dies in a plane wreck, who would take their place? The game woudl jsut be forfeit, or in this case, the skater who didnt get injured would move on. Side note: the sponsor overloading the bracket is unfortunate yes, but not rare or evidence of rigginng individual games. This happens on a way worse scale and scope in the X-Games. Look at any of the last few winter sports (ski and snowboard slopesstyle, knuckle huck specifically) Monster has full control and has installed 30-50% of the total field of skiers/snowboarders as Monster athletes. Im hyper impressed with your analysis and data gathering, and love the insane effort you put in!!!

the matchups this season were trash and the entire 2nd round was basically a parody of itself …. This season is designed for Peterson to have a high chance of winning and to promote the fckkk out of Cariuma

They didn't even try to hide their skaters this time. It's so obviously rigged for Cariuma skaters it isn't funny. Berra even named this year's bracket to be a big FU to their viewers. Maybe if Sewa was wearing Cariuma's he wouldn't have to go through 2 champs just to taste finals night...

It's extremely obvious when people are throwing their games

Having stats on skaters is what’s crazy about this

Who buys cariuma? They’re paying a lot for marketing and pro riders but besides some KZfaqrs who have reviewed them and claim to have purchased with their own money I’ve never seen anyone wearing them. And to get all the airtime w/ the berrics they must be throwing down a lot of $$$ or have ties to Scientology right?

blink-182 at the end

Holy shit, Luan is not going to lose to him again .. He knows... #rockpaperscissors #jamiegriffin better hope you win it and go for the throat😮😮😮

yo how are you doing this. like getting the data and stuff. from scratch? point me the right way, i wanna do this with an e sports league

Berra's overlord BS is a hot ass loaf pinch.

Jesus Christ where did all this data come from?

Hail Cariuma! Hail Xenu! Hail Danny Masterson!

JAMIE WINS ALLDAY

I noticed the game today was recorded 3 weeks ago or whenever that Anderson Holt round was made... is that common? seems weird to me they had everyone assembled that would fit that tier advance - so I'm now under the impression Anderson did fake that round .... but maybe others can clear that up , Berrics is kinda making me sick.

Cariuma are so ugly lmaoo, my homies car got robbed and they left the cariumas. Lmaoooo only thing left

It's interesting to see a video this long claiming that the contest is rigged without offering any compelling evidence that it's rigged. There are a bunch of stats, but nothing that suggests this competetion is unfair. It's also heartwarming to see a bunch of teenagers learning for the first time that any sponsored sporting events are actually just advertisments for the products. Welcome to the world guys!

Yea after that Tyler vs Chris match iono what to believe

Data driving speculation is my favorite... #fakenews

Cariuma isnt even in brasil lmaoo thats best part

My moneys on Joslin taking any and all bets 💪

No mention of Leo Romero’s disappearance

the wolf guy from that podcast with tony hawk comes off as a loud asshole who’s sour because he can’t skate anymore

Jamie gonna win cause he has tricks up his sleeves

There is no way on God's green earth that Jamie will lose. Carve it in your forehead.

"Brazilian Company" As a brazilian i say this company its a lie.

I don't think it's a conspiracy but I do think they set the brackets against Jamie and even more against Revive Skater Jonny Giger.

Ous sao os melhores tênis do brasil!

Came back to this video after the switch back heel incident. Tyler lost all respect from the skate community. Watch the game with Chris & Cody. Both calling themselves out for redos if thats how it should be. Joslin through the fkn flag and Tyler still weaseled his way through. I hope Chris Cole absolutely DESTROYS the Cariuma Golden Child

Or maybe cariama just signs a lot of good flat ground skaters

Jamie ain't losing, not sure why anyone else is bothering TBH...

king or kook uh uh uh genius, I know thats from the other vid bt Im sleepy and feel retarded 🥱

Are Cariuma really made in Brazil ?? If so that's an amazing marketing move - I know everyone is sick of China 'quality'.

Homie u need to chill they bout to put a hit on u lol 😂 🤣🤣

Noice

All I know is I'm done with BATB. Nick vs Andy and Luan vs LOD were utter jokes of matches, all im hoping for is for Jamie to win again.

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