Thank you :)

what do your business haul?

I am doing exactly the same for the exact same business 😂

​@@jackwijtenburglet them fight 😂😅😂

I am looking into a bike trailer for the exact same reason, have you built one if so how and what parts did you use? And what is the dimensions of your trailer?

Unfortunately for us you are wrong: Our profit margins are not absolutely huge. Sad but true. They are large enough for us to sustain our company in a healthy way so that people can buy spare parts. But believe me, building high-quality bike trailers in small numbers is not your easiest get-rich-quick-sheme. It is always difficult to compare a diy built with our model. Parts may look roughly the same when in fact there`s much more that differentiates them if you dig a little deeper. Our chassis is vastly more sophisticated to manufacturer and thus much more expensive, yet stiffer, stronger and lighter. You wouldn`t compare a high-end bike frame with a simple one just because they look the same? We also use a custom-made stainless steel axle with threaded ends and an custom-made inserted stainless-steel sleeves to hold the wheels. The list goes on and adds up. We do not want to diminish this great diy-project, but we always feel a bit disappointed when people assume we rip-off customers with our small scale workshop production of custom-made trailer components here in Germany. It`s not like we were Chris King, charging 400 bucks for a front hub...

@@hinterher_bike_trailers Hello and thanks for your unexpected and very detailed response. Yes, I can understand as a small business, employing staff and paying them a fair wage building a high quality product which has a very limited market that it can be very difficult. And I appreciate your frustration reading my casual comment without giving you and others like you the appreciation you deserve for the high quality products you make. But which also need to be sold for higher prices to compensate for the quality materials and workmanship involved in making them and to provide a reasonable profit in an expensive developed country. I live in Ireland myself. I left my comment in relation to the video I had just watched and from the point of view of a customer who would always try to get the most return for the least cost. Of course, when I am doing that, like almost everyone else, I give little or no consideration to the story and lives of the people and businesses that may make different products of different qualities and prices. As it happens, I bought a Duramaxx branded cheap trailer from a German website in 2022 which I know is made in China. I am well aware it's quality and durability is not in any way comparable to the quality of your products but for €105 which was a bargain price on the day, it should give me several years of use along with my two other German branded but also Chinese made trailers. There's a great expression I like to use regularly which applies to me a lot. "Never mind the quality, feel the width!" I have three different bike trailers for less than €400 altogether and I use them regularly, at least once a week, turning my ordinary cheap hybrid bike into a full cargo bike to carry almost anything for a fraction of the cost of an actual real cargo bike. I'm not wealthy, so in order to enjoy as many benefits as I can in life relative to my income, I regularly buy "good enough" instead of the "the best" when it will still achieve my needs. I have and had no doubts even before I left my comment that Hinterher makes quality that can be depended upon for a lifetime and I would never hesitate to buy one of your trailers for heavier use because you have a brand, workmanship and reputation I know I could rely on. I wish you all the best for the future.

Yes, that was the intention :) While it is interesting to watch, I doubt 99,999% will ever own a CNC or even a welder for that matter. Your improvements sound like a good idea 👍

Gas prices increasing will make people bike thankfully. Just make it extremely inconvenient to drive everywhere financially. Businesses who depend will be fine

I don't have a car yet and I'm only 14 so I ride my bike, check out the video in my channel.

Where do you live? Are there no bicycle paths?

@@Marty who, me? I live in an area with bicycle paths and lanes.

I got a large sized Trixie dog trailer from Amazon over a year ago for €131 at the time and it has been fabulous for all kinds of cargo and shopping. It's fully enclosed and secure like the boot of a car and nothing will fall out. I've had over 70Kg and it's working out fabulously. This would not be suitable for trips to the supermarket or shops because it's to big and not enclosed unless you use additional crates or boxes.

did you make a video?

Thanks :)

Nice! Haven't really thought about a paint job yet, but it's a good idea. I receive suprisingly low amounts strange looks from people. I guess the whole cargo-bike-thing is getting normal.

Thanks! The amount of stuff that goes on it is amazing. These green boxes also stack. I had 6 of them on there at one point and it still handled well.

Yes, go for it! I use it almost every week and it's really helpful.

In germany ebay has a marketplace for local offerings "Kleinanzeigen". That works very well. I probably helped a dozen owners to repair their children trailer :)

You're welcome :)

That's a good idea. For me the boxes are the main use case and I'd rather do without the extra weight, but for someone else this might be good.

Yes! That would be awesome. But I don't have an eBike 🤷‍♂️

@@Marty then get one, or make one.

Go for it!

Muchas gracias! :)

Thanks! The trailer was a "Chariot Cougar". The brand Chariot was acquired by Thule, so the newer models are from them. I suggest to get a broken or very dirty one, otherwise they will cost you around 300€.

You’d need smaller wheels, and the front would have to be able to steer. The best way to make any trailer stand on its own, is to give it fold down legs at the corners. (Like a caravan)

The axle with the wheels luckily came as a complete bundle from the old childrens trailer.

I had two euro pallets on there with 20-25kg each. There was a hill on the way home and yes, I got pretty warm. But it was that pretty warmness of success and satisfaction :D

Yes that's a good idea. I have since broken one of them because I was too lazy to do this 🙄 The wood it 8 or 9mm thick.

@@Marty Which kind of wood your plywood is made of (birch, poplar…)? Since birch wood is the most available, I wonder if a 9mm thick birch plywood is enough.

I first thought about wheelchair wheels too, but then I found the used trailer. But they should work just fine. Plus used wheelchairs are quite cheap here.

Honestly, I just guessed. I looked at a few trailers and they seemed to have the axle slightly behind the middle, so I went with that too. It makes sense, because you want to balance the weight pretty well, so there is not much down or up force on your bikes rear axle.

@@Marty There should only always be down force on the bikes rear axle for stability and braking. Regulations also recommend that the front of the trailer not have a hard 90° which could catch on a post or a person as you ride, so should have another deflector on the front right side, as well as deflectors in front of the wheels.

Yes that's definitely possible and a great idea!

I can stand on it without it feeling unstable at all. So at least 80kg.

I have no full list, since the available material will vary from country to country. The important stuff is the plywood. In my case it was 1250x625x8mm I believe. And the 60x35x1mm steel angle profile with the holes.

@@Marty Please, provide the length of the square tubes do you use (20cm looks too short I guess)

I'd doubt that this particular coupler will be legal for a motorcycle. But in theory it should work, you'd have to install it to the motorcycle somehow .

I think I've found the exact same steel profiles at Hornbach (Art. 6783642), check them out here: www.hornbach.de/shop/Conceptor-Winkelprofil-gelocht-verzinkt-25x45x1-mm-2m/6783642/artikel.html

Moin Berend, sorry für die späte Antwort. Ich habe alles bei Hornbach gekauft . Viel Erfolg!

Sounds doable. There are bike trailers for carrying kayaks and such. Whether you need another gear ratio depends on the weight of the load. I found the rear gear to be cheaper, so I would start with that and add a tooth or two. You will probably need a longer chain.

Not sure if this construction can carry much weight - maybe 20 to 30 Kilo? Your tools and ladder is probably much more - I would invest in something that can carry more. I'm on the lookout myself, but want to build something on top of the trailer. I found the Surly Bill is pretty long - 1,2m and 60cm wide - but can carry up to 130kg. Something like that would be better. You can always strap things on - or mount a watertight box.

@@theresabu3000 I settled with a citroen picasso in the end.

The axle came with the original Chariot (now Thule) trailer.

That's also a neat idea!

It's a funny thought, but I don't think I'll be getting into the manufacturing business any time soon. But I'm glad you like the design :)

@@Marty how much weight could it take

Just try it, it all works with basic tools :)

No

Hi, it all came with the bike trailer which is a Chariot (now Thule). I think they sell these as spares on their website.

Like a galvanized steel frame and carbon fiber tub or barrel

Storage container even reinforced less weight

Danke :) Ne, ich hab noch nichts verbessert, weil das eigentlich so völlig ausreichend ist für alles. Ich kann ohne Probleme drauf stehen, das Limit ist also eher das Rad. Bei zu viel Gewicht schiebt der schon ordentlich nach vorne und müsste wohl lieber gebremst sein.

@GrayContrast Das Video hab ich noch nicht gefunden, aber gib mir mal ein Ping, wenn es da ist. Den würde ich mir gerne mal beim nächsten Rave anschauen 😁

Hi, it was double-seated.

@@Marty Thanks for your reply! I already bought a single-seated one and thinking now about still doing the conversion.

Thanks! It's capable of at least holding 80kg but I did not try more. But the limiting factor will be your pulling power. Also check your local laws. In germany the weight of a bike trailer is limited.

@@Marty You are absolutely right, due to the "pulling power" as well the regulation in Germany. They are always strict …;-) I just wanted an estimated/approximate Idea for the axle/axial load. That way I would go ahead and buy myself a used Kids … ;-)) -- Keep them coming, the good Ideas √√

Das geht schon, man kann damit ohnehin nicht so rasen, wenn der beladen ist, sodass das nicht so ins Gewicht fällt. Aber nett wär es schon. Gerade wenn die Boxen noch leer sind, klappern die wie verrückt. Wobei das mit Federung wahrscheinlich auch nicht verschwinden würde. Aktuell lege ich einfach Karton unter, das funktioniert auch :)

It's slightly behind the center.